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Border tension escalates as cross firing took place at Indo-Pak border Jammu and Kashmir

Perception from Indian side, Pakistan army is helping militants to infiltrate, army is trying to divert the attention of border security forces by firing at them.


please help me.
Majority of violations are at sialkot working boundry where there is no way for infiltrants to hide as it is not a difficult area to search them and most of all Pakistan will violate Loc at 11 before noon to help them pass in such daylight ???? if still Pakistani army is that much stupid and india does not want loc violation and it wants to crush any hope for Pakistan than why dont it deploy more forces as second or third line of defence to make Pakistan hopeless in their cause???
 
please help me.
Majority of violations are at sialkot working boundry where there is no way for infiltrants to hide as it is not a difficult area to search them and most of all Pakistan will violate Loc at 11 before noon to help them pass in such daylight ???? if still Pakistani army is that much stupid and india does not want loc violation and it wants to crush any hope for Pakistan than why dont it deploy more forces as second or third line of defence to make Pakistan hopeless in their cause???

BSF reports about ceasefire violations happening in RS pura sector which mainly happens during night.
 
Still there are few difficult regions to monitor , have you noticed the time at which cease violations happens, it's very hard to maintain monitor these areas during night

There is 24/7 monitoring with cameras (including night vision) and light towers after every few meters from indian side of the border and don't forget wire of death (lethal electric fence) and land mines so only a few things are left for human force if they still can't stop it i am afraid it's a failure of security from indian side.
 
BSF reports about ceasefire violations happening in RS pura sector which mainly happens during night.

I am talking about the very recent famous one in sialkot after which Pak army chief went on to meet local residents(if someone here attests me )Why these kind of attempts in daylight???
and the question is still there that why would Pakistan open up a new front having such a chaos situation inside its own country
 
There is 24/7 monitoring with cameras (including night vision) and light towers after every few meters from indian side of the border and don't forget wire of death (lethal electric fence) and land mines so only a few things are left for human force if they still can't stop it i am afraid it's a failure of security from indian side.

You raised an important question, we have a massive defence budget but we still can't provide foolproof security, as a common man I don't know the technicalities behind security failures.
 
I am talking about the very recent famous one in sialkot after which Pak army chief went on to meet local residents(if someone here attests me )Why these kind of attempts in daylight???
and the question is still there that why would Pakistan open up a new front having such a chaos situation inside its own country

I know what is happening in sialkot, maybe it's the policy of new government to retaliate in every possible way that's why army is targeting multiple weak regions to cause maximum damage.
 
such is this hypocrisy that no one wants to know that why is Pakistan violating loc first? does it make sense??
they just assume that Pakistan wants to infiltrate militants in india based on Bsf reports and then argue on the remaining. their is nothing to argue if none of them are unable to answer the root cause. They just beat around the bush and then consider Pakistan two faced in improving relations.
I think there is no need to discuss it every now and then and tbh i am not taking sides(I am Pakistani) but most of Indians are too much rigid compared to Pakistanis here.
 
There is no doubt in my mind that The border tensions have been created by the Indians to save their allies who were tearing PK apart. In Karachi MQM are on the run, on the Afghan border we have the mad mullahs funded by the Indians on the run and Baluchistan we have the separatists on the run. The Indian strategists are desperate to save their allies and this conflict is a desperate diversion.
 
First of all they are not Militants they are freedom fighter & they are fighting for the cause which ur PM Mr. Nahroo promised to them in front of whole world in 1948 (btw India went to UNO not Pakistan).

2ndly yes we support them morally & ethically as we want them to have independence & a right which was guranteed to them them by an Indian PM.

3rdly, Pakistan has never helped Kashmiris with weapons but yes I want Pak Army to help them with weapons.

How old are you? Operation Gibraltar, operation grandlsam, support for Khalistani militants in the 80's, Kargil all these are what exactly?

Seems to me you are encouraging pakistan to turn in to terrorist nation. Is that correct? Because that is what international community would view pakistan as, if it it does what you suggest.
 
such is this hypocrisy that no one wants to know that why is Pakistan violating loc first? does it make sense??
they just assume that Pakistan wants to infiltrate militants in india based on Bsf reports and then argue on the remaining. their is nothing to argue if none of them are unable to answer the root cause. They just beat around the bush and then consider Pakistan two faced in improving relations.
I think there is no need to discuss it every now and then and tbh i am not taking sides(I am Pakistani) but most of Indians are too much rigid compared to Pakistanis here.
Rigid?
Cross border violations are to help terrorists crossing in to India.
By blaming it on India, Pakistani army avoids international condemnations of support for terrorists.
 
How old are you? Operation Gibraltar, operation grandlsam, support for Khalistani militants in the 80's, Kargil all these are what exactly?

Seems to me you are encouraging pakistan to turn in to terrorist nation. Is that correct? Because that is what international community would view pakistan as, if it it does what you suggest.

Old enough my friend to understand, who is our friend and who is our enemy. Its a matter of perception, who is doing what & what are their main intentions.

Operation Chengiz Khan & Air stirkes on Pakistan before 1965 War which started that war then there was 1971 war which Mr. Modi admitted. BRO. we gave you the list of Sikh leaders, which you killed in Golden Temple, we added you, biggest mistake (Pakistan ever made)

You should look at the root cause of this conflict, which is Kashmir. Give them their right, which your PM gave them, everything between us will clear.
 
Old enough my friend to understand, who is our friend and who is our enemy. Its a matter of perception, who is doing what & what are their main intentions.

Operation Chengiz Khan & Air stirkes on Pakistan before 1965 War which started that war then there was 1971 war which Mr. Modi admitted. BRO. we gave you the list of Sikh leaders, which you killed in Golden Temple, we added you, biggest mistake (Pakistan ever made)

You should look at the root cause of this conflict, which is Kashmir. Give them their right, which your PM gave them, everything between us will clear.

funny you ignored the operation Gibraltar and grand slam. Having read about 2 dozen books on 1965 including articles by pakistani air force officer the story has been consistent. it doesn't match yours.

Yes, you are promoting terrorism.
 
Can you prove that.

But I can prove that India interfered in East Pakistan. Just read ur PM statements went he met Bangladesh PM

Mush has admitted as such to Heise. Pak service man were inteviewed at the front during Kargil by BBC.

Yup India interfered in East pakistan and did it successfully. Has been praised for it world wide. What u gonna do about it?
 
Mush has admitted as such to Heise. Pak service man were inteviewed at the front during Kargil by BBC.

Yup India interfered in East pakistan and did it successfully. Has been praised for it world wide. What u gonna do about it?

Nothing bro, just waiting for Khalistan as too much power will destroy India itself.
 
funny you ignored the operation Gibraltar and grand slam. Having read about 2 dozen books on 1965 including articles by pakistani air force officer the story has been consistent. it doesn't match yours.

Yes, you are promoting terrorism.

Because they only wrote about how they destroyed India fleets.
 
This is just stupid by both Indians and Pakistanis to keep arguing over this. Army boys from both sides are just having a bit of fun with their guns, let them do their thing no need for finger pointing and cat fights here..
 
And the firing resumes.

Jammu: Pakistan Rangers violated the ceasefire by resorting to overnight firing on nine Border Outposts along the International Border in Samba sector of Jammu district. The Border Security Forces or BSF strongly retaliated to the Pakistani firing, sources said.

Heavy firing continued overnight in Samba sector between Basantar and river Tarna.

Pakistani troops had resorted to unprovoked firing yesterday in Samba sector, killing one civilian and injuring two others.

"At about 1705 hours, Pakistan Rangers started unprovoked firing, targeting BSF Naka mound and civil labourers in the Samba sector, who were carrying out construction work of culvert well inside the Indian territory," a BSF spokesman had said. The injured were taken to a hospital in Jammu.

The BSF had given a strong reply to the Pakistani firing, he said, adding the exchange of fire had stopped at around 5.30 pm on Friday.

Friday's ceasefire violation from the Pakistani side came after a lull of more than a month.

Deputy Chief Minister of Jammu and Kashmir, Nirmal Singh, yesterday said that Pakistan Rangers opened fire at the BSF posts when the fencing was being repaired.

"Pakistan is time and again trying to push in terrorists and ultimately they cut the fencing to get-in. That fencing was being repaired when the Pakistani rangers opened fire and one person has died in the firing," Mr Singh said in Jammu city.

The ceasefire violations, which had become a routine, had stopped after the Director General (DG)-level talks between Border Security Force and Pakistan Rangers on September 12.

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/paki...samba-sector-1235833?pfrom=home-lateststories
 
Villagers near both sides of the border need to be evacuated, armies can fight their war killing each other, just spare the poor villagers.
 
And they want us to play cricket with them and improve their financial situation.. :facepalm: there is no need for it. I know few posters will say " we don't need your help". Well, let your PCB say that. :D
 
There are pictures of schools and school buses being caught in the firing, lucky for kids that the timing of attack wasn't school hours.

Can't understand how people live in such a dangerous territory. They need to move.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Indian?src=hash">#Indian</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistani?src=hash">#Pakistani</a> troops allegedly exchange fire across <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LoC?src=hash">#LoC</a> in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Uri?src=hash">#Uri</a> sector <a href="https://t.co/OnVI3V3jsS">https://t.co/OnVI3V3jsS</a></p>— Dawn.com (@dawn_com) <a href="https://twitter.com/dawn_com/status/778202356987068416">20 September 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Strange how all these escalations take place in the month of September, just before UN General Assembly meeting. It is almost as if someone is purposely trying to bring Kashmir in media attention ahead of these events. :nawaz
 
Strange how all these escalations take place in the month of September, just before UN General Assembly meeting. It is almost as if someone is purposely trying to bring Kashmir in media attention ahead of these events. :nawaz

Of course. Its now or never. Kashmir is burning. Lives are lost.

Now just add some firing at the border and make it even more Newsworthy.

Too bad, the UN can't do anything to India. They are as powerful as a old woman without a stick. The best UN could do is whine.

If any country can put pressure on India, it would be USA. But US will not strain its relations with India. India is one of their biggest strategic partners in the region to counter the Chinese influence.

Global politics has no friends or foes. Its all friends for convenience. A communist China is friends with Pakistan (An Islamic republic). That explains it all. China uses Pakistan to engage India and waste its money on buying weapons.
 
Our country is blessed that it has so many tactical battle experts, keyboard commanders and patriots. Just imagine what would happen to Pakistan if we ever decided to take matters in our own hands.
 
As I always said nothing was going to happen after India saw sense. When Pak moved it's fighter jets is was enough to give the message that we were ready as well. Indian security advisors strongly advised Modi not to even think of attacking Pakistan. For now common sense has won.
 
As I always said nothing was going to happen after India saw sense. When Pak moved it's fighter jets is was enough to give the message that we were ready as well. Indian security advisors strongly advised Modi not to even think of attacking Pakistan. For now common sense has won.

War is never a solution to Kashmir problem.

Glad Indians are not stupid enough to go on a full scale war which can set both countries back economically.

Wise decision by Modi Govt.
 
As I always said nothing was going to happen after India saw sense. When Pak moved it's fighter jets is was enough to give the message that we were ready as well. Indian security advisors strongly advised Modi not to even think of attacking Pakistan. For now common sense has won.

Perhaps your end people dont have common sense. Stock markets suffered just because of your jets moving... Think what will happen if its a war
 
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Perhaps your end people dont have common sense. Stock markets suffered just because of your jets moving... Think what will happen if its a war

Never mind the stock markets and whose biscuits are better. It's very important to give the enemy a message that if you want war we are also ready. Since then your tone has completely changed. No point in having great business and stock markets when the enemy is hammering you. Try to think before posting.
 
Perhaps your end people dont have common sense. Stock markets suffered just because of your jets moving... Think what will happen if its a war

I wonder what kind of sense your hysterical
media has especially lunatics like Arnab Goswani.

I won't generalise your whole population though like you do as it's not your fault with the nonsecal propaganda your are fed with daily.
 
...and how much money did India waste after 26/11 when moving all that heavy artillery to the border? They then returned back emptied handed with long faces unable to do a thing. I didn't see them worry about the stock markets then.
 
Perhaps your end people dont have common sense. Stock markets suffered just because of your jets moving... Think what will happen if its a war

It is idiotic to want war, both countries will definitely suffer. India will suffer more than Pakistan as India has more to lose than Pakistan. Leaders of the nations are always well informed than their average citizens and I can guarantee you that war was never on the table for both leaders.
 
Perhaps your end people dont have common sense. Stock markets suffered just because of your jets moving... Think what will happen if its a war

munnay, i tell you how our stock markets work in our country. when panama papers gt leaked and our PM was in hot waters, the stock markets gt the highest point in the year. the jets moving logic dont work in our country becoz we know india wont gonna attack.
stock markets will rise again in few days, its how the stock markets work.
 
Two Pakistani soldiers were killed in an exchange of fire with Indian forces across the de facto border in the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir on Thursday, the Pakistani army said, as tension between the nuclear-armed neighbors remains high.

The exchange of fire took place in the Bhimber, Hot Spring, Kel and Lipa sectors in Pakistan-administered Kashmir, and lasted about six hours, the Pakistani military's press wing said in a statement.

An Indian army officer said that there had been shelling from the Pakistani side of the border into the Nowgam district of Indian-administered Kashmir.

"Pakistan troops fired at Indian posts in Nowgam sector of North Kashmir at midnight. They also fired mortars. Army at the LoC fired back and intermittent firing is going on," the army officer said on condition of anonymity, referring to the Line of Control, or heavily militaries de facto border.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN11Z0IJ?il=0
 
Here they go again....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">At least 10 civilians and 4 security personnel killed in cross-border shelling between <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/India?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#India</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistan</a>. The barrage along several parts of the Line of Control reportedly began after Indian troops foiled an infiltration attempt from Pakistan in northern <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmir</a>.</p>— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) <a href="https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1327267506986364932?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
MUZAFFARABAD, PAKISTAN -- Pakistani and Indian troops clashed anew in the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir, leaving 12 people dead, including three Indian and one Pakistani soldier, and wounding at least 36 on both sides, officials said Friday.

The fighting came amid increasing tensions between the nuclear-armed South Asian neighbours -- since gaining independence from Britain in 1947, Pakistan and India have fought two of their three wars over Kashmir, which is split between them and claimed by both in its entirety.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/12-killed-as-india-pakistan-trade-fire-in-disputed-kashmir-1.5187660

This seems more serious than the routine cross border clashes.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Many houses in Neelum Valley , Azad Jammu and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmir</a> have been destroyed by severe Indian army heavy shelling <a href="https://t.co/mJMKYYceos">pic.twitter.com/mJMKYYceos</a></p>— Fahim Kayani &#55356;&#57153; (@fahim_kayani) <a href="https://twitter.com/fahim_kayani/status/1327232172965699590?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Many houses in Neelum Valley , Azad Jammu and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmir</a> have been destroyed by severe Indian army heavy shelling <a href="https://t.co/mJMKYYceos">pic.twitter.com/mJMKYYceos</a></p>— Fahim Kayani �� (@fahim_kayani) <a href="https://twitter.com/fahim_kayani/status/1327232172965699590?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Besharam Indian Army!
 
India, Pakistan report deadly violence along Kashmir border

At least 10 civilians and five security personnel have been killed in cross-border shelling between India and Pakistan, in one of this year’s deadliest days along the heavily militarised frontier separating the nuclear-armed rivals, officials said.

Indian officials said six civilians, three soldiers and a border guard were killed on their side.

The Pakistan military said four civilians and one soldier were killed on the Pakistani side.

Twenty two others were wounded in the Neelum Valley region of Pakistan-administered Kashmir, a Pakistani civil administration official told Al Jazeera.

“Deaths and damage are being reported from across the Neelum Valley,” said Safeer Butt, the official.

Pakistan’s foreign ministry has summoned a senior Indian diplomat to protest against the killings in Pakistan-administered Kashmir by Indian shelling, according to a statement.

The Indian diplomat was summoned to the foreign ministry in the Pakistani capital Islamabad to “underscore[e] that such senseless acts are in clear violation of the 2003 Ceasefire Understanding, and against all established humanitarian norms and professional military conduct”, the statement said.

A day earlier, at least one Pakistani civilian, 55-year-old Muhammad Bashir, was killed due to Indian shelling the Rakhchikhri sector of Pakistan-administered Kashmir, about 80km (50 miles) southeast of the regional capital Muzaffarabad.

Three other civilians were wounded in Indian shelling in the village of Samni, roughly 150km (93 miles) southeast of Muzaffarabad, Pakistan’s foreign ministry said.

‘Continue to live in fear’
Muhammad Shakoor, 50, a resident of Balkote village in India-administered Kashmir, who lost three of his neighbours in Friday’s shelling, told Al Jazeera that “they continue to live in fear”.

“People only remember about us when we die. We live this death every day,” he told Al Jazeera over phone.

“The government is not providing us bunkers so that we could save ourselves during the shelling. We are caught between the bullets of two sides. Neither do we sleep nor we find any peace here”.

A ceasefire has been in effect since 2003 across the length of the Line of Control (LoC), which divides Pakistan-administered and Indian-administered Kashmir, but it is frequently violated by both India and Pakistan, with each routinely blaming the other for initiating hostilities.

Both countries claim the disputed mountainous territory of Kashmir in full, but administer separate portions of it. They have fought two of their three wars over the region since gaining independence from the British in 1947.

According to Pakistan’s foreign ministry, the ceasefire has been violated by India at least 2,729 times this year, resulting in 21 civilian deaths and serious injuries to 206 others.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/...er-kashmir-violence?__twitter_impression=true
 
Indian officials said six civilians, three soldiers and a border guard were killed on their side.

The Pakistan military said four civilians and one soldier were killed on the Pakistani side.

I hope to see a peaceful resolution of J&K conflict before I die. It will make me genuinely happy.

So many innocent lives lost, so much blood shed, so many broken dreams, the horror and pain inflicted upon the people of J&K...
 
I hope to see a peaceful resolution of J&K conflict before I die. It will make me genuinely happy.

So many innocent lives lost, so much blood shed, so many broken dreams, the horror and pain inflicted upon the people of J&K...

At this stage and with our people. it's almost impossible to have a peaceful solution for this. One can hope but a war one day seems inevitable over this.
 
At this stage and with our people. it's almost impossible to have a peaceful solution for this. One can hope but a war one day seems inevitable over this.
A war between two nuclear but poor countries will be no good for anyone and will be 1000 times worse than this. The only way I see an end for this is either with some third-party intervention or when folks in sub-continent move away from religion and become saner.
 
India Summons Pakistani Diplomat Over Flare-Up Along Line Of Control

New Delhi: India on Saturday summoned the Charge d'Affaires of the Pakistan High Commission to register a strong protest over the heavy shelling by Pakistani forces on multiple sectors along the Line of Control (LoC) in Jammu and Kashmir on Friday that left at least nine people dead.

In a statement, the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) said India also condemned, in the strongest terms, the "deliberate targeting" of innocent civilians by Pakistani forces, saying it was highly deplorable that Pakistan chose a festive occasion in India to disrupt peace and perpetrate violence in Jammu and Kashmir through coordinated firing along the LoC.

"The Charge d'Affaires of the High Commission of Pakistan was summoned by the Ministry of External Affairs today and a strong protest was lodged over unprovoked ceasefire violations by Pakistani forces, on multiple sectors along the Line of Control in Jammu and Kashmir on November 13, resulting in the death of four innocent civilians and serious injuries to 19 others," the MEA said.

Apart from the civilians, five security personnel were killed in the Pakistani offensive.

"India also strongly protested Pakistan's continued support to cross border terrorist infiltration into India, including through supporting cover fire provided by Pakistan forces," the MEA said.

"Pakistan was once again reminded of its bilateral commitment to not allow any territory under its control to be used for terrorism against India in any manner," it said.

Indian forces strongly retaliated to the shelling on Friday and army sources said there have been multiple casualties on the Pakistani side.

Around 6-7 Pakistan army soldiers, including two SSG (Special Service Group) commandos, have been killed and 10-12 injured, army sources said.

Several Pakistani army bunkers, fuel dumps and launchpads have been destroyed and set on fire, they added. Videos released by the army showed the targets being destroyed.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ind...-line-of-control-2325293?pfrom=home-topscroll
 
So the elections in GB and the failure of the campaign from the treacherous crooks has forced Ind to go back to the tried tested formula of targeting civilians in AJK, with the full knowledge that we can't do the same to our brethren in occupied Kashmir. As the saying goes, when in Rome, well its time IK stopped being some sort of dove and supported the Mujahaddin in Occupied Kashmir. As the Chinese showed, the Inds only understand one language and its not peace.
 
So the elections in GB and the failure of the campaign from the treacherous crooks has forced Ind to go back to the tried tested formula of targeting civilians in AJK, with the full knowledge that we can't do the same to our brethren in occupied Kashmir. As the saying goes, when in Rome, well its time IK stopped being some sort of dove and supported the Mujahaddin in Occupied Kashmir. As the Chinese showed, the Inds only understand one language and its not peace.

Nah man winning the Twitter battles and Mr Peace is way more important, meanwhile India taking the steps on ground.
 
India Summons Pakistani Diplomat Over Flare-Up Along Line Of Control

New Delhi: India on Saturday summoned the Charge d'Affaires of the Pakistan High Commission to register a strong protest over the heavy shelling by Pakistani forces on multiple sectors along the Line of Control (LoC) in Jammu and Kashmir on Friday that left at least nine people dead.

In a statement, the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) said India also condemned, in the strongest terms, the "deliberate targeting" of innocent civilians by Pakistani forces, saying it was highly deplorable that Pakistan chose a festive occasion in India to disrupt peace and perpetrate violence in Jammu and Kashmir through coordinated firing along the LoC.

"The Charge d'Affaires of the High Commission of Pakistan was summoned by the Ministry of External Affairs today and a strong protest was lodged over unprovoked ceasefire violations by Pakistani forces, on multiple sectors along the Line of Control in Jammu and Kashmir on November 13, resulting in the death of four innocent civilians and serious injuries to 19 others," the MEA said.

Apart from the civilians, five security personnel were killed in the Pakistani offensive.

"India also strongly protested Pakistan's continued support to cross border terrorist infiltration into India, including through supporting cover fire provided by Pakistan forces," the MEA said.

"Pakistan was once again reminded of its bilateral commitment to not allow any territory under its control to be used for terrorism against India in any manner," it said.

Indian forces strongly retaliated to the shelling on Friday and army sources said there have been multiple casualties on the Pakistani side.

Around 6-7 Pakistan army soldiers, including two SSG (Special Service Group) commandos, have been killed and 10-12 injured, army sources said.

Several Pakistani army bunkers, fuel dumps and launchpads have been destroyed and set on fire, they added. Videos released by the army showed the targets being destroyed.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ind...-line-of-control-2325293?pfrom=home-topscroll

Some Hindutvas on Twitter were posting this pic and saying it was one the Pak soldiers that had been killed...

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pakistani officials say dozens of homes in the village of Tehjian in Pakistan-administered Kashmir have been set ablaze by Indian shelling <a href="https://t.co/ColIPe1O0U">pic.twitter.com/ColIPe1O0U</a></p>— TRT World (@trtworld) <a href="https://twitter.com/trtworld/status/1327662585567703044?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Around 610,000 people inhabited the areas along the Line of Control(LoC) and by abruptly resorting to unprovoked and indiscriminate shelling, India wanted to achieve two objectives.

Elaborating, he said, India was out to frighten the LoC residents into leaving their homes to render Pakistan army all alone in those areas because it knew that no army could win any war without support from the local population

Continuing, he said, India also wanted to create unrest in AJK because it was a difficult task to permanently rehabilitate a population of more than 600,000 from along the LoC elsewhere in the 5000 sq. miles small AJK territory.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1590419/ajk-premier-asks-islamabad-to-expose-indian-designs

Some silly excuses fact of the matter is neither india nor pakistan values kashmir lives
 
More ceasefire violations.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pakistani troops resorted to unprovoked and indiscriminate firing targeting Indian forward posts and civilian areas along LoC in Nowshehra sector of Rajouri district today. <br>(1/2)<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ceasefireviolation?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ceasefireviolation</a> <a href="https://t.co/bnZb6RnYQd">pic.twitter.com/bnZb6RnYQd</a></p>— DD News (@DDNewslive) <a href="https://twitter.com/DDNewslive/status/1330436044987260936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Prime Minister of AJK Raja Farooq Haider <a href="https://twitter.com/farooq_pm?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@farooq_pm</a> condemned Indian shelling in Khoi Ratta sector of Kotli district today where one 7 years old girl martyred and 10 civilians injured he asked international community to play its role for the safety of civilians living near LoC</p>— Hamid Mir (@HamidMirPAK) <a href="https://twitter.com/HamidMirPAK/status/1330435152430964737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
I have direct reports from border villages. Indian army is using these Kashmiri villages as shields since a long time now and have moved artillery in residential areas so that when India provokes and Pakistan retaliates, there are human casualities on both sides of the LOC. Most of the provocations are done by the Indian side and they deliberately target civilan areas in AJK as well. This proves nothing but the radicalization of Indian army. Disgusting tactics from the Indian side.
 
I have direct reports from border villages. Indian army is using these Kashmiri villages as shields since a long time now and have moved artillery in residential areas so that when India provokes and Pakistan retaliates, there are human casualities on both sides of the LOC. Most of the provocations are done by the Indian side and they deliberately target civilan areas in AJK as well. This proves nothing but the radicalization of Indian army. Disgusting tactics from the Indian side.

Source please.
 
More ceasefire violations.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pakistani troops resorted to unprovoked and indiscriminate firing targeting Indian forward posts and civilian areas along LoC in Nowshehra sector of Rajouri district today. <br>(1/2)<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ceasefireviolation?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ceasefireviolation</a> <a href="https://t.co/bnZb6RnYQd">pic.twitter.com/bnZb6RnYQd</a></p>— DD News (@DDNewslive) <a href="https://twitter.com/DDNewslive/status/1330436044987260936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Prime Minister of AJK Raja Farooq Haider <a href="https://twitter.com/farooq_pm?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@farooq_pm</a> condemned Indian shelling in Khoi Ratta sector of Kotli district today where one 7 years old girl martyred and 10 civilians injured he asked international community to play its role for the safety of civilians living near LoC</p>— Hamid Mir (@HamidMirPAK) <a href="https://twitter.com/HamidMirPAK/status/1330435152430964737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Location of cease fire violations always shifts I think forces from both are compelled to do that after the protest from local population
 
www.thekashmirwalla.com

Still better than your zee news and republic tv.

The Kashmir walla is run by thorough professionals. And they just cannot afford to be unprofessional or report fake news because they always have a sword of Indian fascism on their necks waiting for a chance to slaughter them.

Kashmiri journalists are Pulitzer prize winners. Not drama actors like Indian journalists.
 
In 2019 there were over 3000 ceasefire violations - in every single case both sides claim that they didn’t fire first. The ceasefire was agreed to in 2003 so in 17 years there must have been 10s of thousands of violations yet not once has a side admitted to firing first. And people really buy this lol.
 
In 2019 there were over 3000 ceasefire violations - in every single case both sides claim that they didn’t fire first. The ceasefire was agreed to in 2003 so in 17 years there must have been 10s of thousands of violations yet not once has a side admitted to firing first. And people really buy this lol.

PM of POK still looking towards international community to play it's role. Since it's a disputed territory he should really ask UN to deploy peacekeeping force on both sides
 
Ceasefire violations have taken a sharp increase since Modi first came to power. Meanwhile in that time Pakistan has had two political parties and three different prime ministers at the helm.

Unless you are a Hindutva losers you would realize that it is Modi and his dog's policy to keep the border hot.


Unfortunately for chaiwala he can't do much more than that otherwise he gets international humiliation and a bloody nose.
 
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Ceasefire violations have taken a sharp increase since Modi first came to power. Meanwhile in that time Pakistan has had two political parties and three different prime ministers at the helm.

Unless you are a Hindutva losers you would realize that it is Modi and his dog's policy to keep the border hot.


Unfortunately for chaiwala he can't do much more than that otherwise he gets international humiliation and a bloody nose.

That's why this time they were quick to deny any reports of any more 'strikes' :))
 
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PM of POK still looking towards international community to play it's role. Since it's a disputed territory he should really ask UN to deploy peacekeeping force on both sides

The references to POK are cute, whatever helpa you feel better but as a Kashmiri- we want to join with Pakistan,why not allow the vote for people to self-determine? Democracy only for Indian mainland?
 
The references to POK are cute, whatever helpa you feel better but as a Kashmiri- we want to join with Pakistan,why not allow the vote for people to self-determine? Democracy only for Indian mainland?

:facepalm:

This "Pakistan Occupied Kashmir" b.s. shows how deluded some people are and shouldn't be taken seriously.

What a joke.
 
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The references to POK are cute, whatever helpa you feel better but as a Kashmiri- we want to join with Pakistan,why not allow the vote for people to self-determine? Democracy only for Indian mainland?

It's actually kind of sad that one side GB/AJK have regular elections and fully functioning local representation. These areas are very peaceful and literacy rate is exceeding 90%. People from there voluntarily enroll in the Pakistan Army and every household either has a son in the army or knows someone who is. Furthermore, with the recent emphasis on dam construction and acceleration in CPEC these areas would see rapid improvement in their economies.


On the other hand in Occupied Kashmir the people are being raped, blinded and tortured. They do not even have political representation and their beautiful state is infested by Hindutva losers. Quite sad. May we see a day where Occupied Kashmir has the same freedoms as Azad Kashmir. Inshallah
 
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The references to POK are cute, whatever helpa you feel better but as a Kashmiri- we want to join with Pakistan,why not allow the vote for people to self-determine? Democracy only for Indian mainland?
Do you also think the statements of POK PM are cute, those neither makes me feel sad or better. Imo you certainly have the right to self determination but it's up to the government to decide
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...ination-agenda-india/article29851191.ece/amp/. Democracy is also for Kashmiris I think you can exercise that right in upcoming local body elections.
 
Under Section 56 of the Jammu and Kashmir Interim Constitution Act (which was drafted by the Federal Ministries of Law and Kashmir Affairs in Islamabad), the Pakistani government can dismiss any elected government in Azad Kashmir irrespective of the support it may enjoy in the AJK Legislative Assembly. Azad Kashmir remains for all intents and purposes under Pakistan’s strict control, exercising no real sovereignty of its own.Few more interesting details are in the link
https://www.hrw.org/reports/2006/pakistan0906/4.htm
Tbh whole region is occupied by three countries people should accept the fact and move on
 
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