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People from Islamabad have started a protest against Murree, where they are asking people to boycott going to murree( a hill station)

This boycott has started because of the way the murree locals treat the tourists. There are lots of videos of the locals scuffing even on the smallest issue with tourists.

There is no hospitality

As the police doesn't bother to take action, the local population of Islamabad and Rawal pindi have started this boycott. And it looks like it is having an effect as the ASP of murree had to gather with his police force and the Traffic pollice to give out a video msg on facebook that Murree is safe there isn't any problem here for any tourist.

Infact, the police folks were seen giving out fake flowers to the tourist in an effort to promote hospitality.
 
Tourist from other parts of Pak don't keep Murree clean. That upsets the locals greatly. Hosts also need to be more hospitable as well.
 
I never understand why people even go to Murree? There are far better places in Pakistan to visit Swat, Northern Areas, Some part of Mansehra and Galyaat are far better than Murree.
 
Tourist from other parts of Pak don't keep Murree clean. That upsets the locals greatly. Hosts also need to be more hospitable as well.

So that justifies getting into scuffles and taking pics of females?
 
I never understand why people even go to Murree? There are far better places in Pakistan to visit Swat, Northern Areas, Some part of Mansehra and Galyaat are far better than Murree.

Murree is very close and travelling to this place is cheap and easily accessible for pindi and isloo folks.
 
Tourist from other parts of Pak don't keep Murree clean. That upsets the locals greatly. Hosts also need to be more hospitable as well.

Has the local government provided proper disposal of garbage ?
 
Has the local government provided proper disposal of garbage ?

Thats no excuse.

Keep your trash with you in a bag until you get back to your hotel, or if your only there for the day, keep it with you until you go back home.

Throwing it outside is disgusting.

Everywhere you go in Pakistan there is trash. Sometimes even in places where there is a disposal bin, people are too lazy to actually throw it in the bin and the trash is scattered all over the vicinity.
 
Tourist from other parts of Pak don't keep Murree clean. That upsets the locals greatly. Hosts also need to be more hospitable as well.

Has the local government provided proper disposal of garbage ?

Thats the story everywhere even the most remote areas are facing this issue. Here are recent pics from the lake saiful malook

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Thats no excuse.


Keep your trash with you in a bag until you get back to your hotel, or if your only there for the day, keep it with you until you go back home.

Throwing it outside is disgusting.

Everywhere you go in Pakistan there is trash. Sometimes even in places where there is a disposal bin, people are too lazy to actually throw it in the bin and the trash is scattered all over the vicinity.

People are not to lazy to throw trash in bins pakistan

There are no bins. Simple as that.

Bro i study at a university which doesnt have a single recycling bin in the campus. Infact they barely have garbage bins either.
 
Thats the story everywhere even the most remote areas are facing this issue. Here are recent pics from the lake saiful malook

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I dont blame the people here to be honest.

When there arnt any bins or anything how could it be peoples fault?

People say oh you can carry the trash and throw it when u find a bin, but literally there aint any trash bin in miles in most places
 
I dont blame the people here to be honest.

When there arnt any bins or anything how could it be peoples fault?

People say oh you can carry the trash and throw it when u find a bin, but literally there aint any trash bin in miles in most places

You can totally keep shopping bags with you to keep your trash.

Dont justify this.
 
I never understand why people even go to Murree? There are far better places in Pakistan to visit Swat, Northern Areas, Some part of Mansehra and Galyaat are far better than Murree.

It's very close for upper and central Punjabi folk

It's a dump tbh. Never understood the attraction... I'll choose Hunza everyday over that
 
But it's fairly rich from local murree folk to have a pop at tourists

Their town would be irrelevant if not for the suckers who your the town
 
Thats no excuse.

Keep your trash with you in a bag until you get back to your hotel, or if your only there for the day, keep it with you until you go back home.

Throwing it outside is disgusting.

Everywhere you go in Pakistan there is trash. Sometimes even in places where there is a disposal bin, people are too lazy to actually throw it in the bin and the trash is scattered all over the vicinity.

It certainly isn't but until local government of Muree has not provided adequate means to disposal garbage by tourist then they can't complain about tourists throwing garbage on the streets.
 
Muree is a paradise on Earth, although I do recall even as a youngster some of my elders having issues with the locals there but I don't really know how big of an issue it is if one at all.
 
It certainly isn't but until local government of Muree has not provided adequate means to disposal garbage by tourist then they can't complain about tourists throwing garbage on the streets.

Pakistani politicians stay in their gated communities, they go for holidays to Europe.

You think they care about issues like these?

At the end of the day its the normal people that suffer, so each individual has to take personal responsibility for the way they treat their own country.

Also, it is people that vote in these politicians. If people can come out in mass to support Salman Taseer's murderer then they can come out to protest against government lack of progress on these issues.

In the meanwhile though, the first step is to keep a shopping bag with you, keep your trash in it, and take it home with you.
 
Pakistani politicians stay in their gated communities, they go for holidays to Europe.

You think they care about issues like these?

At the end of the day its the normal people that suffer, so each individual has to take personal responsibility for the way they treat their own country.

Also, it is people that vote in these politicians. If people can come out in mass to support Salman Taseer's murderer then they can come out to protest against government lack of progress on these issues.

In the meanwhile though, the first step is to keep a shopping bag with you, keep your trash in it, and take it home with you.

I don’t know who you are criticizing?

Criticized politician for being incompetent then criticizing people for not voting competent people then criticizing the same people not carrying a plastic bag to collect their waste.

I criticized politician for blaming the tourists while not providing adequate disposal of garbage on the street of Muree. Hypocrisy and incompetence of the government. You can’t blame general population for polluting while you don’t provide adequate garbage disposal and awareness.

What Salman taseeer has to do with it?
 
I don’t know who you are criticizing?

Criticized politician for being incompetent then criticizing people for not voting competent people then criticizing the same people not carrying a plastic bag to collect their waste.

I criticized politician for blaming the tourists while not providing adequate disposal of garbage on the street of Muree. Hypocrisy and incompetence of the government. You can’t blame general population for polluting while you don’t provide adequate garbage disposal and awareness.

What Salman taseeer has to do with it?

If there is no disposal facilities, my point is if people made it an issue, then the politicians would have to do some work on it.

If people can come out and protest in other causes (some as useless as defending a murderer) then they should come out to protest the lack of disposal facilities too.

If not, keep your trash in shopping bags and take it home with you, dont litter in the open like this.

Either way, no excuse for littering like this.
 
People are not to lazy to throw trash in bins pakistan

There are no bins. Simple as that.

Bro i study at a university which doesnt have a single recycling bin in the campus. Infact they barely have garbage bins either.

Rubbish collection is a first world luxury. Do you live in the first world?
 
Thats the story everywhere even the most remote areas are facing this issue. Here are recent pics from the lake saiful malook

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This makes me extremely angry, do you want the government to wipe your butts too? How about some personal responsibility in taking care of this gift god has given you.
 
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People should then travel to wherever necessary to get rid of their own rubbish. It is a habit of Pak people that even if bins are available they don't use them.
[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]

Taking illicit pics has nothing to do with taking responsibility for your own rubbish. I don't see any mention of this in the original post.
 
Thats the story everywhere even the most remote areas are facing this issue. Here are recent pics from the lake saiful malook

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Disgusting. People are ok carrying heavy DSLR cameras and what not for miles but cant carry a plastic bottle back to their hotel.
 
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People should then travel to wherever necessary to get rid of their own rubbish. It is a habit of Pak people that even if bins are available they don't use them.
[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]

Taking illicit pics has nothing to do with taking responsibility for your own rubbish. I don't see any mention of this in the original post.

Again, I understand self responsibility. Not arguing against it.

All i am saying, If the local government has not provided adequate means to dispose garbage then they can not hold tourists responsible for throwing garbage on the streets. Maree isn't a abandoned street or a highway where you have to wait to get to rest stop to dumb your garbage, it is a city, there should be proper means to dispose garbage and that is local government responsibility.
 
Again, I understand self responsibility. Not arguing against it.

All i am saying, If the local government has not provided adequate means to dispose garbage then they can not hold tourists responsible for throwing garbage on the streets. Maree isn't a abandoned street or a highway where you have to wait to get to rest stop to dumb your garbage, it is a city, there should be proper means to dispose garbage and that is local government responsibility.

When I go to a seaside or something where there is no way to dispose of litter I put it in a bag then drive to where I can get rid off it. Government not providing any facilities does not mean people should throw litter on the streets.
 
When I go to a seaside or something where there is no way to dispose of litter I put it in a bag then drive to where I can get rid off it. Government not providing any facilities does not mean people should throw litter on the streets.

Again, haha, Yes!, it should be this way. But I am also trying to highlight that local government can not call out tourists if they haven't provided adequate means to dispose garbage.

Am i not conveying my comment in a simple words?
 
Again, haha, Yes!, it should be this way. But I am also trying to highlight that local government can not call out tourists if they haven't provided adequate means to dispose garbage.

Am i not conveying my comment in a simple words?

Of the government is poor. You are only stating the obvious here:hasan
 
An example of how Murree waale treats you all these shopkeepers get together to harass you and even beat you if there is an argument with one of them. They don't even care if you are with family kids or ladies.

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">ایسا ایک واقعہ میرے ساتھ بھی ہوچکا ہے، مگر ہم سارے دوست لڑکے تھے، یہ سارے کُتے کے بچے دوکاندار اکٹھے ہوجاتے ہیں اور فُل ٹائم بدمعاشی کرتے ہیں خاص طور پر فیمیلز کی لیڈیز کیساتھ، بہت بڑے حرامزدے ہیں۔<a href="https://t.co/wS7drwspkG">pic.twitter.com/wS7drwspkG</a></p>— Observer&#55358;&#56713; (@ehmedsyed) <a href="https://twitter.com/ehmedsyed/status/994948110186156033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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An example of how Murree waale treats you all these shopkeepers get together to harass you and even beat you if there is an argument with one of them. They don't even care if you are with family kids or ladies.

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">ایسا ایک واقعہ میرے ساتھ بھی ہوچکا ہے، مگر ہم سارے دوست لڑکے تھے، یہ سارے کُتے کے بچے دوکاندار اکٹھے ہوجاتے ہیں اور فُل ٹائم بدمعاشی کرتے ہیں خاص طور پر فیمیلز کی لیڈیز کیساتھ، بہت بڑے حرامزدے ہیں۔<a href="https://t.co/wS7drwspkG">pic.twitter.com/wS7drwspkG</a></p>— Observer�� (@ehmedsyed) <a href="https://twitter.com/ehmedsyed/status/994948110186156033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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No sane person should ever visit Murree with his/her family. There are plenty of other better places to visit.
 
An example of how Murree waale treats you all these shopkeepers get together to harass you and even beat you if there is an argument with one of them. They don't even care if you are with family kids or ladies.

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">ایسا ایک واقعہ میرے ساتھ بھی ہوچکا ہے، مگر ہم سارے دوست لڑکے تھے، یہ سارے کُتے کے بچے دوکاندار اکٹھے ہوجاتے ہیں اور فُل ٹائم بدمعاشی کرتے ہیں خاص طور پر فیمیلز کی لیڈیز کیساتھ، بہت بڑے حرامزدے ہیں۔<a href="https://t.co/wS7drwspkG">pic.twitter.com/wS7drwspkG</a></p>— Observer�� (@ehmedsyed) <a href="https://twitter.com/ehmedsyed/status/994948110186156033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Do you know what happened in this situation? if you don't then you might be posting out of context
 
Locals asked for money from a man who wanted to enter a mosque and offer prayers.
 
SO after asking around, the reason why people hate the murree people is:

Their way of speaking, they are ready to fight on petty issues. Some of you might have heard the phrase regarding Abbassi.......

If you want to use the washroom, you pay 50 ruppees
THe hotels there make promises of proving everything when you book, but after booking you get nothing which is promised, and if you argue, the hotel manager and all will literally argue and fight with you..
 
Murree has been awful since the 80's, but even Nathiagali is heading that way, although it is still far better. Dunga Gali and Changla Gali are much better options for holidaying and even investment.

Nonetheless, it all comes down to personal preference eventually. A lot of people find the Galis depressing, so they end up having a good time on Murree Mall road.
 
SO after asking around, the reason why people hate the murree people is:

Their way of speaking, they are ready to fight on petty issues. Some of you might have heard the phrase regarding Abbassi.......

If you want to use the washroom, you pay 50 ruppees
THe hotels there make promises of proving everything when you book, but after booking you get nothing which is promised, and if you argue, the hotel manager and all will literally argue and fight with you..

The water bottels served in restaurants are half empty!
 
The last time i visited muree i got a room for 4000 pkr per night . the manager said it is a beutiful room with great view. after getting the room the view of the mountains was so far from the room that you cant see it and instead there we underwears of ladies and gents hanging right infront of the window,
 
My God, I feel sorry for these beautiful places in the North, look what we desis have done, ruining Gods creation with such mess and no this does not happen everywhere, visit the swiss alps or Canadian rockies, there are no garbage cans, yet tourists are aware not to throw stuff, they put their garbage inside their cars, they don't damange the environment. We desis have no manners and respects for the environment or anything for that matter, we have ruined our countries. I remember a documentary showing how Indians have ruined the beauty of Kashmir with so much garbage everywhere. It is times like these I wish that these places up north were separate from us, I wish British could have given them separation from us Jahils. They could have easily made a country called Dardistan up there (including all of Kashmir), I believe there was a movement for it for a while
 
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