Bradford is UK's 'least favourite' city, says YouGov poll

[TSA321]

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co....is-uks-least-favourite-city-says-yougov-poll/

Less than a quarter of people surveyed - 23 per cent - said they liked Bradford, putting the city bottom of the list, behind Wolverhampton (24 per cent), Sunderland (30 per cent) and Wakefield (32 per cent).

The nation's favourite city was found to be York, with 92 per cent of people saying they liked the city. Bath ranked in second place, with 89 per cent of people saying they like it, followed by Edinburgh with 88 per cent.

Leeds ranked in 40th place out of 57, with 58 per cent of people saying they liked our neighbouring city. Elsewhere in Yorkshire, Sheffield (53 per cent) placed 44th, Hull (37 per cent) came 52nd, and Ripon (71 per cent) came 26th.

Across the Pennines, Manchester came just after Ripon in 27th, with 69 per cent of people saying they like the city, and our nation's capital came 22nd, with 73 per cent of people saying they like the Big Smoke.

The list has been compiled from the YouGov profiles of more than 55,000 people.

YouGov also found 75 per cent of people like West Yorkshire, making it the 12th most popular county in the UK.

This trailed behind fourth-placed North Yorkshire, which 87 per cent of people said they liked, but was ahead of the East Riding (71 per cent), South Yorkshire (66 per cent), and the old enemy Lancashire (70 per cent).

The most popular counties were found to be Dorset, Devon (both 92 per cent) and Cornwall (91 per cent).

 

[Pakistanian]

People are just racist.

 

[TM Riddle]

Is it the one with Temples that Cpt keep on posting about or the one with loads of burqa clad Pakistanis?

 

[Justcrazy]

Not surprised .

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Is it the one with Temples that Cpt keep on posting about or the one with loads of burqa clad Pakistanis?

That was Wembley, not really a city in itself, it is more a section of northwest London. The Capital city is made up of lots of smaller towns and boroughs which make up Greater London itself.

 

[mani1]

I'm not surprised considering what youguv poll results show on Islam and then Bradford having the largest % of Muslims in the UK.

What I am surprised about is Wolverhampton considering its very large % of Sikhs was only 1% off Bradford.

Especially after Tommy Robinson an co stating how integrated and well loved Sikhs are, I wonder if SouthHall or Newham were Cities........

 

[Abdul]

Deservedly.

 

[James]

Sadly merited - it’s an absolute dive.

Bit harsh on Wakefield also propping up the table though. Things have improved enormously around there.

Birmingham should be further down.

Manchester undeservedly ranked higher than most of the Yorkshire cities, despite being at least as rough as Leeds (plus taking the gang culture and gun crime into account, probably worse).

 

[mani1]

As a recent survey by the YouGov-Cambridge Programme shows, a striking 55 per cent of British voters currently think “there is a fundamental clash between Islam and the values of British society”, compared with just 22 per cent – little over one in five – who say Islam and British values are “generally compatible”.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ge...-Islam-is-compatible-with-British-values.html

 

[cricketjoshila]

Sadly merited - it’s an absolute dive.

Bit harsh on Wakefield also propping up the table though. Things have improved enormously around there.

Birmingham should be further down.

Manchester undeservedly ranked higher than most of the Yorkshire cities, despite being at least as rough as Leeds (plus taking the gang culture and gun crime into account, probably worse).

Correct me if i am wrong,but Dorset Cornwall Devonshire are all neighbouring counties.Arent they? whats the reason that part of UK is considered to be better?

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Sadly merited - it’s an absolute dive.

Bit harsh on Wakefield also propping up the table though. Things have improved enormously around there.

Birmingham should be further down.

Manchester undeservedly ranked higher than most of the Yorkshire cities, despite being at least as rough as Leeds (plus taking the gang culture and gun crime into account, probably worse).

How is Wakefield better than Bradford? Lol

 

[James]

How is Wakefield better than Bradford? Lol

Lower crime rate in Wakefield (as confirmed by data regularly compiled by West Yorkshire Police), and the Office for National Statistics consistently ranks Bradford as far worse than Wakefield (and most other places too sadly) in terms of social deprivation.

 

[mani1]

Lower crime rate in Wakefield (as confirmed by data regularly compiled by West Yorkshire Police), and the Office for National Statistics consistently ranks Bradford as far worse than Wakefield (and most other places too sadly) in terms of social deprivation.

If your basing it on that criteria than London, Birmingham, Leeds, Manchester, Liverpool, Nottingham amongst many others all have higher levels of crime and Social deprivation than Bradford and the latter 3 are smaller too.

Also according to ONS Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Leicester amongst many other places have less disposable income per capita than Bradford too.

 

[James]

If your basing it on that criteria than London, Birmingham, Leeds, Manchester, Liverpool, Nottingham amongst many others all have higher levels of crime and Social deprivation than Bradford and the latter 3 are smaller too.

Also according to ONS Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Leicester amongst many other places have less disposable income per capita than Bradford too.

I don’t disagree with any of that.

I was responding to the point comparing Bradford with Wakefield.

 

[James]

Correct me if i am wrong,but Dorset Cornwall Devonshire are all neighbouring counties.Arent they? whats the reason that part of UK is considered to be better?

South West England is generally perceived to be the most picturesque and unsullied region in the UK - with weather to occasionally rival France, miles of clean and sandy coastline, a large surfing culture, and various fascinating landmarks that are both man-made (Stonehenge) and natural (Jurassic Coast).

 

[cricketjoshila]

South West England is generally perceived to be the most picturesque and unsullied region in the UK - with weather to occasionally rival France, miles of clean and sandy coastline, a large surfing culture, and various fascinating landmarks that are both man-made (Stonehenge) and natural (Jurassic Coast).

Is cost of real estate lower than other places?

Also are there lesser immigrants?Is that a factor?

You were talking about crime rates. How is that in south west london?

 

[SpiritOf1903]

I don’t disagree with any of that.

I was responding to the point comparing Bradford with Wakefield.

Which Mani responded to. Wakefield is the epitome of a dump!

No one wants to live there. No doubt the Muslim population skewers Bradford's perception. The riots were nearly 20 years ago.

Dumb people like West Yorkshire butbhate its cities.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Is cost of real estate lower than other places?

Also are there lesser immigrants?Is that a factor?

You were talking about crime rates. How is that in south west london?

Yes and no. Lot of old people retire and move out there.

It's not a place for young people really unless you are into farming and agriculture, which most Asian people are not.

There is lot of Eastern European immigration there.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

South West England is generally perceived to be the most picturesque and unsullied region in the UK - with weather to occasionally rival France, miles of clean and sandy coastline, a large surfing culture, and various fascinating landmarks that are both man-made (Stonehenge) and natural (Jurassic Coast).

Stonehenge is in Wiltshire and not in any of the counties mentioned.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Is cost of real estate lower than other places?

Also are there lesser immigrants?Is that a factor?

You were talking about crime rates. How is that in south west london?

There are definitely less immigrants, these are pretty much exclusively white areas as far as I know, but that is partly because they are not so fast moving, less industry and commerce there. They are considered holiday destinations for a lot of people, so you find that a lot of homes there are second homes and may lie empty during the off season.

I have never actually been because it's a fair trek from where I live, one of the things which has put me off is this nagging feeling it won't be cosmopolitan and a bit insular, but that might be misplaced. A lot of smaller villages on the outskirts of British country are probably the same. It's a long trip from where I am, but I really should go and have a look for curiosity sake if nothing else.

 

[Markhor]

The only good aspect of Bradford is the food. The suburbs are decent but the inner city is grim.

 

[mani1]

The only good aspect of Bradford is the food. The suburbs are decent but the inner city is grim.

Have you sern the houses in Manningham just before Oak Lane?

 

[Minnowbasher]

Bradford is a joke. Whenever I go Bradford I start acting in a non serious way because I just can't take the place seriously.

 

[finalfantasy7]

tbh, when i go to a city, all i care about is food, so bradford is very high on my go to lists,

coventry should be number 1

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

can’t say it was a surprise to read this week that a YouGov survey has “revealed” my childhood home to be the second-least popular of 57 cities in Britain. Wolverhampton has been the subject of such mockery for as long as I remember, with The Idler Book of Crap Towns once putting it on its list of 50 worst places to live in the UK and Lonely Planet branding it the fifth worst city on the planet, alongside San Salvador and Detroit.

There might have even been a time when I went along with the “joke” simply because saying the word “Wolverhampton” is an easy way of getting a laugh, and we all initially need to reject our past to truly appreciate where we come from. But enough is enough. Most of the people surveyed have probably never visited the places they expressed opinions on — the only possible explanation for why Bath, a postcard pretty city which, in reality, is about as thrilling as dental floss, was named second-most popular.

Moreover, I suspect there’s an element of racism at play. It’s hardly a coincidence that most of the “least popular cities” on the list, including Birmingham, Leicester and Bradford, are also the most multicultural. Guess what, people like the idea of rich, white cities they’ve not visited more than poor, brown ones they’ve not visited! Tour Wolverhampton’s magnificent art gallery, talk to the funny, self-deprecating residents and sample our battered chips before joining the mindless bandwagon.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...my-city-if-you-haven-t-even-visited-wql3rw7sp

That was the guy who wrote the tv drama The boy with the topknot, Satnam Sanghera. I think he is right, people automatically downgrade these cities because they have a lot of Indians and Pakistanis in them. They might well be right, but I think fear of the unknown plays a large part. These cities must look very alien and from a different world for the traditional English folk.

 

[TM Riddle]

That was the guy who wrote the tv drama The boy with the topknot, Satnam Sanghera. I think he is right, people automatically downgrade these cities because they have a lot of Indians and Pakistanis in them. They might well be right, but I think fear of the unknown plays a large part. These cities must look very alien and from a different world for the traditional English folk.

If I were a white guy, I would be horrified at the sight of large no of Temples and Mosques in my city too.
Add to that weird smell of curry and loads of garbage strewn around the street.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

If I were a white guy, I would be horrified at the sight of large no of Temples and Mosques in my city too.
Add to that weird smell of curry and loads of garbage strewn around the street.

The low income white cities also have garbage strewn around the streets, often the windows are boarded up and there are whole rows of houses abandoned with graffiti on the walls. But I take your point about the temples and mosques which must look strange and foreign for white Englishmen. But they like the curry smell I would say, mostly the restaurants cook Pakistani style dishes which are very popular over here - as long as they are restricted to the busy commercial areas of course. Even the suburban areas usually have at least a couple of Chinese or Indian takeaways, that food is very popular here.

 

[James]

For some reason Wakefield is almost 98% White, pretty much the only West Yorkshire city with next to no immigration.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

For some reason Wakefield is almost 98% White, pretty much the only West Yorkshire city with next to no immigration.

Sunderland is also predominantly white, that ranks even lower than Wakefield. It's a horrible city, but bias aside, I think these places are probably undesirable because they were fairly industrial, grey cities with awful architecture. Durham is only a few miles from Sunderland, but it is far more upmarket, loads of historic buildings, and just generally much more pleasant to look at, and a different class of residents. Durham will have well to do folk walking the country lanes in their barbours, Sunderland will have glue sniffing chavs drinking cheap lager and puking in the streets.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

For some reason Wakefield is almost 98% White, pretty much the only West Yorkshire city with next to no immigration.

And a hovel. It offers nothing economically; was once the authority capital but no industry to speak of. Very much a modern city insofar as all the rest of its conurbation is full of power plants. Normanton has large Asian population.

 

[Robert]

York is lovely.

Bradford was a dump when I lived there as an undergraduate in the eighties due to the mills closing and terrible unemployment. Mrs Robert and I returned there a few years ago, and found it somewhat improved, with nicer curry houses and the uni massively expanded and renovated.

 

[Robert]

On the County front I agree with Cornwall scoring high as I now live here. Wonderful beaches and beautiful hilly moorland, though the place is in the dumps economically. It benefited from EU funding but the Cornish voted Leave.

 

[Mamoon]

Blame the Mirpuris.

 

[shaz619]

Blame the Mirpuris.

100%

Plus the first cousin marriages haven't helped either.

If Bradford was as big as Manchester or London, they would eviscerate every statistics when it comes to being stupid, poor GCSE results, crime and fraudulent benefit claims. But despite that they are leading the table quiet well, Sheffield should be up there to; its infested with similar problems beyond being a massive dump.

Also, besides the Mirpuri community the Pathans are always overlooked; they are equally bad in the same inner city regions.

 

[shaz619]

York is lovely.

Bradford was a dump when I lived there as an undergraduate in the eighties due to the mills closing and terrible unemployment. Mrs Robert and I returned there a few years ago, and found it somewhat improved, with nicer curry houses and the uni massively expanded and renovated.

On the County front I agree with Cornwall scoring high as I now live here. Wonderful beaches and beautiful hilly moorland, though the place is in the dumps economically. It benefited from EU funding but the Cornish voted Leave.

Basically, all the regions with these types of blokes:

Are the safest and among the best places to live in the UK, just a heads up for those visiting as well

 

[mani1]

Blame the Mirpuris.

Beyake Keita-Ann was attacked by a gang brandishing baseball bats and other weapons while he played football in Attock Park, Bradford Moor, on August 23, 2016.

The attack came after the footballers’ ball hit a parked car belonging to two men, described as Asian, who called the gang to the park.

Mr Keita-Ann was attacked and died from a blow to the head with a baseball bat in hospital three weeks later.

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co....t-death-of-beyake-keita-ann-in-bradford-park/

It's the backward Pathan barbarians whom need 4 to attack a teenager armed with baseballl bats and machetes

 

[mani1]

100%

Plus the first cousin marriages haven't helped either.

If Bradford was as big as Manchester or London, they would eviscerate every statistics when it comes to being stupid, poor GCSE results, crime and fraudulent benefit claims. But despite that they are leading the table quiet well, Sheffield should be up there to; its infested with similar problems beyond being a massive dump.

Also, besides the Mirpuri community the Pathans are always overlooked; they are equally bad in the same inner city regions.

Bradford is bigger than Gunchester. As for GCSE results the Singhys of London whom do well Make the Underclass of England .

46% don't work in the City with the most jobs and 46% earn less than the living wage despite all of the highest paid jobs are there.

As for 1st Cousin Marriage those Singhy's that make the Underclass of Scotland in Glasgow are the most over represented and those that make the Underclass of England whom belong to the same underclass community are over represented in Ilford

 

[mani1]

 

[Bewal Express]

[MENTION=106]Mani[/MENTION]
Do you live in Bradford? Is it a real s*** hole?

 

[mani1]

[MENTION=106]Mani[/MENTION]
Do you live in Bradford? Is it a real s*** hole?

Much nicer than most of Birmingham, Gunchester, London, Luton etc

The inner City area with large % of Pathaan's and Chaachis are quite rough especially inner city manningham Attock Park area Little Horton West Bowling. Coincidently the stereotype there is there cars are worth more then there houses.

The more Affluent Areas such as Frizinghall heaton Village Shipley, Nabwood are Pakistani areas.

Also many whom came in the 90's via uncle Tony's watch won't know this but but when England was the richest Country in the World Bradford was the Richest City in the World per capita. The fuedals and German Jews lived in those areas I mentioned above.

Also Bradford has the most listed buildings outside of London.

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

100%

Plus the first cousin marriages haven't helped either.

If Bradford was as big as Manchester or London, they would eviscerate every statistics when it comes to being stupid, poor GCSE results, crime and fraudulent benefit claims. But despite that they are leading the table quiet well, Sheffield should be up there to; its infested with similar problems beyond being a massive dump.

Also, besides the Mirpuri community the Pathans are always overlooked; they are equally bad in the same inner city regions.

My dad was born in Punjab and my mother was from AJK. Originally all my family is all from AJK.

I think the Punjabis and some Pashtuns aren’t that much better than Mirpuris regarding lack of education and behaviour and 1st cousin marriages.

Sheffield really isn’t a dump lol...gonto the south side of Sheffield and it’s affluent. Even the north side has some really well educated people, one of whom I’m married to.

The problem with the antisocial youth is down to the parents who don’t ask where the kids are nor where the money is coming from.

 

[mani1]

[MENTION=106]Mani[/MENTION]
Do you live in Bradford? Is it a real s*** hole?

Obviously the City Centre is lacking as the Central Government has decided to spend all the money next door in Leeds, since the early 60's almost all the money spent in infrastructure and government jobs etc has gone there.

Including the recent desicion to send 2000 hmrc jobs from Bradford to Leeds but as for Poverty London, Leeds Manchester, Leicester, Birminghamm, Hull, Nottingham etc are much worse

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

My dad was born in Punjab and my mother was from AJK. Originally all my family is all from AJK.

I think the Punjabis and some Pashtuns aren’t that much better than Mirpuris regarding lack of education and behaviour and 1st cousin marriages.

Sheffield really isn’t a dump lol...gonto the south side of Sheffield and it’s affluent. Even the north side has some really well educated people, one of whom I’m married to.

The problem with the antisocial youth is down to the parents who don’t ask where the kids are nor where the money is coming from.

I sort of agree. Even though I am a Punjabi, I have one side of my family which has a very long tradition of education, I also have another side which is paindu as they come so I have seen both sides. You could argue Mirpuris are backwards, but then plenty of Punjabis are exactly the same. Punjabis are a bit further ahead in the UK, I don't know if that is because they were more enterprising, or just they were here longer. Mirpuris are also moving ahead in business these days, I don't think they are as dumb as people make out.

 

[mani1]

I sort of agree. Even though I am a Punjabi, I have one side of my family which has a very long tradition of education, I also have another side which is paindu as they come so I have seen both sides. You could argue Mirpuris are backwards, but then plenty of Punjabis are exactly the same. Punjabis are a bit further ahead in the UK, I don't know if that is because they were more enterprising, or just they were here longer. Mirpuris are also moving ahead in business these days, I don't think they are as dumb as people make out.

Which business do Punjabi's own? why do they make the Underclass of London and Scotland?

 

[shaz619]

Obviously the City Centre is lacking as the Central Government has decided to spend all the money next door in Leeds, since the early 60's almost all the money spent in infrastructure and government jobs etc has gone there.

Including the recent desicion to send 2000 hmrc jobs from Bradford to Leeds but as for Poverty London, Leeds Manchester, Leicester, Birminghamm, Hull, Nottingham etc are much worse

Bradford isn't as big as a number of those city's, it is better to compare your dump to city's which are of a similar size to gauge how well they are doing when it comes to poverty. Besides, I don't know why you'd feel a great sense of pride if people do not highlight the problems you face? I have no issue admitting Birmingham has its problems because giving attention to them is one step closer to solving them, maybe you have turned into those kanjoos coconuts as well that you always go on about urban etc that you're doing so well in your mini kingdom away from the rest in your city that now we should accept that Bradford is among the greatest city's of all time

But I know many who live there that don't feel the same pride as you, you should be proud nothing wrong with that but why do you want to bury all the skeletons ? there are other communities who unfairly go under the radar I agree but that doesn't change the negatives in your city into a positive, you should be happy that anyone gives you dump some attention, maybe some bachara will help those who need it? you ever thought about that mr kanjoos ?

 

[mani1]

Bradford isn't as big as a number of those city's, it is better to compare your dump to city's which are of a similar size to gauge how well they are doing when it comes to poverty. Besides, I don't know why you'd feel a great sense of pride if people do not highlight the problems you face? I have no issue admitting Birmingham has its problems because giving attention to them is one step closer to solving them, maybe you have turned into those kanjoos coconuts as well that you always go on about urban etc that you're doing so well in your mini kingdom away from the rest in your city that now we should accept that Bradford is among the greatest city's of all time

But I know many who live there that don't feel the same pride as you, you should be proud nothing wrong with that but why do you want to bury all the skeletons ? there are other communities who unfairly go under the radar I agree but that doesn't change the negatives in your city into a positive, you should be happy that anyone gives you dump some attention, maybe some bachara will help those who need it? you ever thought about that mr kanjoos ?

Bradford is bigger than Manchester, Leicester, Nottingham, Hull

Bradford's problems are well highlighted the under dumps that hide there problems away are the ones that need solving as you can see below

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Which business do Punjabi's own? why do they make the Underclass of London and Scotland?

I said Mirpuris are moving ahead in business these days, I didn't mention anything about Punjabi businesses. I'm on your side bro, you don't need to start on the cleaning toilets or whatever else you've got planned, we've been here before and it usually ends up getting deleted.

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

Just a generic reply to the above.

I grew up in Small Heath and it declined sharply but I think some of the nice eating places eg Middle eastern food have resulted in a revival.

I think there are lots of problems. Primarily I think it is improving with some getting educated but these people (including me) leave for less deprived areas. On the other hand, I think the further the generations are away from migration from Pakistan, they don’t seem to think they have to behave themselves and integrate.
People think that being born here means they can misbehave; it’s very disappointing.

 

[mani1]

I said Mirpuris are moving ahead in business these days, I didn't mention anything about Punjabi businesses. I'm on your side bro, you don't need to start on the cleaning toilets or whatever else you've got planned, we've been here before and it usually ends up getting deleted.

You said "Punjabis are a bit further ahead in the UK"

Where are they further ahead?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You said "Punjabis are a bit further ahead in the UK"

Where are they further ahead?

I would say they are usually found a lot more in the professional fields, doctors, lawyers, accountants, and so on. A lot of them own businesses as well, you could go into any city where they are and you can see it for yourself, I'm not going to start listing them all individually.

NOTE: that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of them not doing so well either, there is always an underclass in every city you will find them in there along with whites, blacks, Mirpuris and the rest.

 

[shaz619]

Just a generic reply to the above.

I grew up in Small Heath and it declined sharply but I think some of the nice eating places eg Middle eastern food have resulted in a revival.

I think there are lots of problems. Primarily I think it is improving with some getting educated but these people (including me) leave for less deprived areas. On the other hand, I think the further the generations are away from migration from Pakistan, they don’t seem to think they have to behave themselves and integrate.
People think that being born here means they can misbehave; it’s very disappointing.

I suppose I've never looked at it that way, there are positives when it comes to migration but the main reason why we will be better 10 years from now is due to being far away from it. For once the parents won't be backward morons and out of touch, plus we will be far away from main stream media attention when it comes to things like grooming. That's not to say that there have been no good parents from that era because there are and that's not to say that the ones born / bred here will not have some bad apples but we will certainly be better the more and more we are away from migration in general, particularly Azad Kashmir / Afghan / All the places with large amounts of Pathans.

 

[mani1]

I would say they are usually found a lot more in the professional fields, doctors, lawyers, accountants, and so on. A lot of them own businesses as well, you could go into any city where they are and you can see it for yourself, I'm not going to start listing them all individually.

NOTE: that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of them not doing so well either, there is always an underclass in every city you will find them in there along with whites, blacks, Mirpuris and the rest.

This is the best City in the World

46% don't work, 46% earn less than the London wage now since Punjabi's do so well in school why doesn't one enlighten me how many are left to just earn more than the London living wage? Never mind be a Dr or Solicitor. Coincidently it's the same for Scotland too figures have been posted before.

As for Manchester another Punjabi City check the low levels of disposable income out for all ethnicity's out.

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

I suppose I've never looked at it that way, there are positives when it comes to migration but the main reason why we will be better 10 years from now is due to being far away from it. For once the parents won't be backward morons and out of touch, plus we will be far away from main stream media attention when it comes to things like grooming. That's not to say that there have been no good parents from that era because there are and that's not to say that the ones born / bred here will not have some bad apples but we will certainly be better the more and more we are away from migration in general, particularly Azad Kashmir / Afghan / All the places with large amounts of Pathans.

Depends which way you look at it. The guys joyriding, drug dealing and messing around will breed further generations of criminals.

The educated people will continue to do well and integrate.

I think what you will see is polarisation of the Pakistani population. Into the groups I’ve stated above.

It ultimately comes down to education. If there’s no education or business venture or will to work hard for apprenticeships then things will get worse.

 

[mani1]

Lol what you got besides Akbars

Obviously a lot more than every where else coincidentally Nawaab's is also a Bradford Company, The owner/s live in a Pakistani area the ones when if you know your history was owned by the Feudal's when Bradford was the richest City in the World per Capita and now is a "Mirpuri" area

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

In 10 years people won’t hage the excuse of having confused identity when it comes to our people committing crimes.

 

[shaz619]

Highest and lowest wages in UK's largest towns and cities*

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43729508

London: £727
Reading: £655
Crawley: £633
Milton Keynes: £619
Cambridge: £609
Slough: £606
Oxford: £600
Edinburgh: £598
Aberdeen: £597
Derby: £595
Aldershot: £588
Southampton: £579
Luton: £571
Swindon: £560
Bristol: £547
National Average: £539
Leeds: £533
Coventry: £532
Birmingham: £527
Glasgow: £526
Gloucester: £526
Portsmouth: £520
Belfast: £514
Liverpool: £512
Manchester: £512
Warrington: £510
Northampton: £508
Ipswich: £506
Cardiff: £505
Dundee: £503
Bournemouth: £503
Basildon: £501
Newcastle: £501
York: £501
Blackpool: £500
Exeter: £499
Peterborough: £497
Telford: £497
Brighton: £496
Chatham: £494
Blackburn: £488
Nottingham: £486
Sunderland: £484
Wakefield: £483
Leicester: £480
Preston: £480
Middlesbrough: £477
Sheffield: £474
Newport: £473
Mansfield: £472
Plymouth: £467
Hull: £466
Swansea: £464
Burnley: £459
Stoke: £455
Bradford: £455
Worthing: £455
Barnsley: £453
Norwich: £450
Doncaster: £447
Wigan: £436
Birkenhead: £428
Huddersfield: £424
Southend: £413

Sheffield always falling under the radar, the city and their people need SERIOUS help.

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

Highest and lowest wages in UK's largest towns and cities*

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43729508

London: £727
Reading: £655
Crawley: £633
Milton Keynes: £619
Cambridge: £609
Slough: £606
Oxford: £600
Edinburgh: £598
Aberdeen: £597
Derby: £595
Aldershot: £588
Southampton: £579
Luton: £571
Swindon: £560
Bristol: £547
National Average: £539
Leeds: £533
Coventry: £532
Birmingham: £527
Glasgow: £526
Gloucester: £526
Portsmouth: £520
Belfast: £514
Liverpool: £512
Manchester: £512
Warrington: £510
Northampton: £508
Ipswich: £506
Cardiff: £505
Dundee: £503
Bournemouth: £503
Basildon: £501
Newcastle: £501
York: £501
Blackpool: £500
Exeter: £499
Peterborough: £497
Telford: £497
Brighton: £496
Chatham: £494
Blackburn: £488
Nottingham: £486
Sunderland: £484
Wakefield: £483
Leicester: £480
Preston: £480
Middlesbrough: £477
Sheffield: £474
Newport: £473
Mansfield: £472
Plymouth: £467
Hull: £466
Swansea: £464
Burnley: £459
Stoke: £455
Bradford: £455
Worthing: £455
Barnsley: £453
Norwich: £450
Doncaster: £447
Wigan: £436
Birkenhead: £428
Huddersfield: £424
Southend: £413

Sheffield always falling under the radar, the city and their people need SERIOUS help.

Other than doctors and dentists, other educated people I know from Sheffield mostly work in places like West Yorkshire.

Sheffield city centre went down the pan decades ago when Meadowhall came into force. The collapse of the steel industry had a large impact.

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

As a proud Pakistani, I can see why the prejudices between us means that Pakistanis in the uk do not come out to speak on behalf of Kashmir like they do for Palestine.

I wish we were all united.

 

[mani1]

Highest and lowest wages in UK's largest towns and cities*

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43729508

London: £727
Reading: £655
Crawley: £633
Milton Keynes: £619
Cambridge: £609
Slough: £606
Oxford: £600
Edinburgh: £598
Aberdeen: £597
Derby: £595
Aldershot: £588
Southampton: £579
Luton: £571
Swindon: £560
Bristol: £547
National Average: £539
Leeds: £533
Coventry: £532
Birmingham: £527
Glasgow: £526
Gloucester: £526
Portsmouth: £520
Belfast: £514
Liverpool: £512
Manchester: £512
Warrington: £510
Northampton: £508
Ipswich: £506
Cardiff: £505
Dundee: £503
Bournemouth: £503
Basildon: £501
Newcastle: £501
York: £501
Blackpool: £500
Exeter: £499
Peterborough: £497
Telford: £497
Brighton: £496
Chatham: £494
Blackburn: £488
Nottingham: £486
Sunderland: £484
Wakefield: £483
Leicester: £480
Preston: £480
Middlesbrough: £477
Sheffield: £474
Newport: £473
Mansfield: £472
Plymouth: £467
Hull: £466
Swansea: £464
Burnley: £459
Stoke: £455
Bradford: £455
Worthing: £455
Barnsley: £453
Norwich: £450
Doncaster: £447
Wigan: £436
Birkenhead: £428
Huddersfield: £424
Southend: £413

Sheffield always falling under the radar, the city and their people need SERIOUS help.

You do realise that people coming from outside the City work in other City's for example Leed's a lot of the top jobs are taken by those from Ilkley (Bradford) and Harrogate.

Hence why

 

[shaz619]

Obviously a lot more than every where else coincidentally Nawaab's is also a Bradford Company, The owner/s live in a Pakistani area the ones when if you know your history was owned by the Feudal's when Bradford was the richest City in the World per Capita and now is a "Mirpuri" area

Maybe but going by the Akbars in Brum I doubt the quality then again you probably never have to deal with so much demand in your local restaurants beyond the locals the Nawabz in Manchester has been consistently good but it seems like many of those fellas leave to pursue their ambitions in more lucrative markets But yeah I aint ever been there so can't really comment on which places are good to munch

 

[finalfantasy7]

You do realise that people coming from outside the City work in other City's for example Leed's a lot of the top jobs are taken by those from Ilkley (Bradford) and Harrogate.

Hence why

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Mani - is the above list, weekly wage or monthly wage

 

[shaz619]

You do realise that people coming from outside the City work in other City's for example Leed's a lot of the top jobs are taken by those from Ilkley (Bradford) and Harrogate.

Hence why

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Looks like you made the top 10 in that list to, but from the bottom - Thank you Mirpuri Kommuniteee

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

Maybe but going by the Akbars in Brum I doubt the quality then again you probably never have to deal with so much demand in your local restaurants beyond the locals the Nawabz in Manchester has been consistently good but it seems like many of those fellas leave to pursue their ambitions in more lucrative markets But yeah I aint ever been there so can't really comment on which places are good to munch

In fairness the Akbar’s in Bham is nowhere near as good as the Sheffield one.

 

[mani1]

Maybe but going by the Akbars in Brum I doubt the quality then again you probably never have to deal with so much demand in your local restaurants beyond the locals the Nawabz in Manchester has been consistently good but it seems like many of those fellas leave to pursue their ambitions in more lucrative markets But yeah I aint ever been there so can't really comment on which places are good to munch

Akbars food is centrally made in Bradford and gets transported to other places. So Bradford is the best

As for Nawaab's they have multiple ones in Bradford and quite a few in Europe there's in my opinion a few better than them Aaagrah's even Annams.

Coincidently Aagrah's own like 20 Buffet places over the North of England mostly Yorkshire

 

[mani1]

Mani - is the above list, weekly wage or monthly wage

It's yearly and takes in to accound benefit's and taxes too.

 

[finalfantasy7]

Many people have mentioned Nottingham - where I have lived all my life.

Nottingham used to have a gun culture, but that's near enough gone now. A area called meadows and St Anne's had this gun cul culture, with radford and Lenton.

Nottingham isn't violent like Bradford Hull, the biggest problem people would consider with Nottingham is clifton - as it was the biggest council estate - whole of Europe. Now its the 2nd biggest in Europe.

They are other areas but they are very small.

Tbh - Mansfield has a massive problem, which is just outside Nottingham

 

[shaz619]

As a proud Pakistani, I can see why the prejudices between us means that Pakistanis in the uk do not come out to speak on behalf of Kashmir like they do for Palestine.

I wish we were all united.

Weren't you born in the UK just out of interest? But I do agree with you with regards to the inferior complex people have over here in favour of Arabs, am not one of them; most of my international charitable efforts are focused to help people in Pakistan, Jamaica and Ghana. We should definitely not be selective in who we help and I do help in the ME as well at times but am not as vocal like the others who are big time Arab boot lickers. Am also better of helping those suffering in Sheffield and Bradford if I was going to be really vocal and selective, they might be stray and those places may be big dumps but they are still my people

 

[mani1]

Looks like you made the top 10 in that list to, but from the bottom - Thank you Mirpuri Kommuniteee

Well considering the Mirpuri Community has more disposable income than the Punjabi in Manchester and the Hindu Kommuniteee of Leicester and the Sikh Kommuniteee of Wolverhampton after taxes and benefits are taken in to account, it would be fair to assume the work in Leeds and even Manchester.

 

[shaz619]

Akbars food is centrally made in Bradford and gets transported to other places. So Bradford is the best

As for Nawaab's they have multiple ones in Bradford and quite a few in Europe there's in my opinion a few better than them Aaagrah's even Annams.

Coincidently Aagrah's own like 20 Buffet places over the North of England mostly Yorkshire

It was ok when it first opened here but now you're better of starving that's how bad it is.

No one has ever spoken highly of a Nawabs in Bradford. There are Tavah places which people seem to like but beyond that not much chit chat to make me ever compelled to try the food over there.

 

[mani1]

It was ok when it first opened here but now you're better of starving that's how bad it is.

No one has ever spoken highly of a Nawabs in Bradford. There are Tavah places which people seem to like but beyond that not much chit chat to make me ever compelled to try the food over there.

Probably because its in a White area

 

[shaz619]

Well considering the Mirpuri Community has more disposable income than the Punjabi in Manchester and the Hindu Kommuniteee of Leicester and the Sikh Kommuniteee of Wolverhampton after taxes and benefits are taken in to account, it would be fair to assume the work in Leeds and even Manchester.

But still you made the top 10 from the bottom, avoided the bottom 5 thanks to all the tax you avoid paying hence the disposable income

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

Weren't you born in the UK just out of interest? But I do agree with you with regards to the inferior complex people have over here in favour of Arabs, am not one of them; most of my international charitable efforts are focused to help people in Pakistan, Jamaica and Ghana. We should definitely not be selective in who we help and I do help in the ME as well at times but am not as vocal like the others who are big time Arab boot lickers. Am also better of helping those suffering in Sheffield and Bradford if I was going to be really vocal and selective, they might be stray and those places may be big dumps but they are still my people

Nice post.

Yes sir I’m proud to be English and Pakistani and I try to ensure a humble balance and take the best of both worlds.

The inferiority complex towards the Arabs is a huge issue.

Sheffield and Bradford have large issues with gangs. These places are going to be difficult to repair.

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

Akbars food is centrally made in Bradford and gets transported to other places. So Bradford is the best

As for Nawaab's they have multiple ones in Bradford and quite a few in Europe there's in my opinion a few better than them Aaagrah's even Annams.

Coincidently Aagrah's own like 20 Buffet places over the North of England mostly Yorkshire

Aagrah is brilliant!

 

[shaz619]

Probably because its in a White area

Nah it aint, just on the out skirts of the inner city and easily accesible from places like alum rock, small heath and winson green . smethwick. A lot of goreh go there but majority are apneh, they were good first 3 years but terrible now. East is East better, think they could be based in either Manchester or Bradford

 

[mani1]

Nah it aint, just on the out skirts of the inner city and easily accesible from places like alum rock, small heath and winson green . smethwick. A lot of goreh go there but majority are apneh, they were good but terrible. East is East better, think they could be based in either Manchester or Bradford

I was talking about Bradford it's in Tong. Though they are opening another one back where they originally started. As for Manchester all there good Places are Bradford based ones unless your into Arab food as Attock Park area has better food "Originally from Afghanistan"

Or do you rate Gillani's seemed cheap and nasty to me.

 

[mani1]

Aagrah is brilliant!

Yes much better than Nawaabs though I've only been to the Wembley one almost every one got the runs.

 

[Bewal Express]

Obviously the City Centre is lacking as the Central Government has decided to spend all the money next door in Leeds, since the early 60's almost all the money spent in infrastructure and government jobs etc has gone there.

Including the recent desicion to send 2000 hmrc jobs from Bradford to Leeds but as for Poverty London, Leeds Manchester, Leicester, Birminghamm, Hull, Nottingham etc are much worse

People make towns, cities and countries. There is no doubt that infrastructure spending will help but too many of the desis treat education as kryptonite and hence you have a whole generation of people relying on Taxis, Restaurants and selling drugs as their means of a living.

 

[shaz619]

Nice post.

Yes sir I’m proud to be English and Pakistani and I try to ensure a humble balance and take the best of both worlds.

The inferiority complex towards the Arabs is a huge issue.

Sheffield and Bradford have large issues with gangs. These places are going to be difficult to repair.

Am happy that someone who came from a similar area as me feels that way because there are only a small number of people who have similar views and when you disagree with them they take it personally. But so long we look out for our own regardless of race, creed or religion in the UK or country's of origin that's what matters.

 

[mani1]

People make towns, cities and countries. There is no doubt that infrastructure spending will help but too many of the desis treat education as kryptonite and hence you have a whole generation of people relying on Taxis, Restaurants and selling drugs as their means of a living.

Then how do you explain this

At 39% black pupils are least likely to achieve A*-C in English and Maths GCSEs, followed by pupils of White and Mixed Ethnicities (34%).

The rates of low pay and worklessness for Pakistani/Bangladeshi people in London are both 46% - the highest rates of people from any ethnic background.

Blacks and Whites are the least educated yet do much much better than Punjab's and Bengali's in the City where almost all the best jobs are

 

[shaz619]

I was talking about Bradford it's in Tong. Though they are opening another one back where they originally started. As for Manchester all there good Places are Bradford based ones unless your into Arab food as Attock Park area has better food "Originally from Afghanistan"

Or do you rate Gillani's seemed cheap and nasty to me.

Because I don't hear enough people talking about the Bradford places am not sure if those who have tried those restaurants in both places prefer one over the other, but I have been to most of them away from the place of origin so if am in your city then let me be the ultimate judge I have never been to Gillanis I don't know where that is? what are your top 3 places in Bradford