Build that wall... Pakistan?

[ChuckLee]

As you may or may not know Pakistan is in the process of building a wall or fence if you will. Along the Afghanistan’s border.

How do you feel about this?

I personally think it’s one of the best decisions made by Pakistan. We need to build a wall and reduce the influx of terrorists entering our country, also terrorists leaving our country when the army takes them out, thus leaving them no where to run but await their fate.

I also believe Pakistan needs to stop taking in immigrants and refugees from Afghanistan and deport all undocumented afghans back.

Too long has Pakistan dealt with their problems and our people have paid the price.


Views?

 

[moghul]

Pakistan has no other choice.

 

[Savak]

Lol. The US I believe has dropped the plan because of it not being financially feasible. How will Pakistan afford it when they cannot find the money to build much needed dams in the country?

Also can the terrorists not easily climb the walls?

 

[Greenstorm]

Yes, fencing Afghan border is a good step and should have happened a long time ago. We should do the same with the Indian border.

 

[Asim_khan]

Won't happen under Imran Khan. He's for normalisation of relations between the countries. Wants to see an eu style open border.

Insha'Allah one day we will see something like that. But gonna take something drastic for it to happen in the next two terms

 

[Kroll]

There’s probably too many sections along the border where building a barrier wouldn’t be physically possible such as mountainous terrain. So, there would be geological constraints as well as financial. But why build walls and fences of hatred and isolation when you can build bridges of peace and friendship?

 

[PakLFC]

We need to build this fence otherwise those Afghan's will not stop entering or sending terrorists to Pak. Imran Khan is the PM of Pakistan not a spokesperson for Pathans or Afghans. He has to stop romanticising Afghan terrorism all the time confusing it with past resistance movements.

 

[enkidu_]

Those who are born here and know nothing of Afghanistan should be granted citizenship IMO. They have grown up there, went to school with other Pakistanis, have businesses, etc they can also be assets of Islam in the near future.

Also I don't know if this "Afghan refugee/migrant = terrorist" is really credible. Many major terrorist attacks have been carried out by ethnic Uzbeks for instance (who are a minor, minor part of the Afghan demographics in Pak), ofc not mentioning Pak's "homegrown" elements. Basically Afghans are being scapegoated, you could use this argument about everyone, and this rhetoric is very similar to the European far-right's.

If anything the wall should be built with India to block the Kulbhushan Jadhav's, Navjot Singh Sidhu's, Sarabjit Singh's, etc

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Don’t think this is the right step tbh.Need better security along the border but a wall would be too much.

 

[Greenstorm]

Those who are born here and know nothing of Afghanistan should be granted citizenship IMO. They have grown up there, went to school with other Pakistanis, have businesses, etc they can also be assets of Islam in the near future.

Also I don't know if this "Afghan refugee/migrant = terrorist" is really credible. Many major terrorist attacks have been carried out by ethnic Uzbeks for instance (who are a minor, minor part of the Afghan demographics in Pak), ofc not mentioning Pak's "homegrown" elements. Basically Afghans are being scapegoated, you could use this argument about everyone, and this rhetoric is very similar to the European far-right's.

If anything the wall should be built with India to block the Kulbhushan Jadhav's, Navjot Singh Sidhu's, Sarabjit Singh's, etc

A lot of Afghan migrants have been involved directly as well as facilitators in numerous terrorist activities and it is not only about terrorism alone. They have brought drugs and guns in every gulli muhala of Pakistan. A lot of them are involved in smuggling and kidnapping.

Border fencing should be our top most priority and I am happy that our Army has finally realized it.

 

[Pakistanian]

Those who are born here and know nothing of Afghanistan should be granted citizenship IMO. They have grown up there, went to school with other Pakistanis, have businesses, etc they can also be assets of Islam in the near future.

Also I don't know if this "Afghan refugee/migrant = terrorist" is really credible. Many major terrorist attacks have been carried out by ethnic Uzbeks for instance (who are a minor, minor part of the Afghan demographics in Pak), ofc not mentioning Pak's "homegrown" elements. Basically Afghans are being scapegoated, you could use this argument about everyone, and this rhetoric is very similar to the European far-right's.

If anything the wall should be built with India to block the Kulbhushan Jadhav's, Navjot Singh Sidhu's, Sarabjit Singh's, etc

Just like in any democratic country, they should only be granted citizenship after a naturalization test and an oath allegiance, many Afghans hate Pakistan despite growing up there and dream of a Greater Afghanistan stretching until the Indus.

 

[ChuckLee]

I can’t see any thing changing or happening tbh. Heck I don’t believe the wall or fence will be complete. Imran is a terrorist sympathiser and would shelter them with state money.

 

[enkidu_]

A lot of Afghan migrants have been involved directly as well as facilitators in numerous terrorist activities and it is not only about terrorism alone. They have brought drugs and guns in every gulli muhala of Pakistan. A lot of them are involved in smuggling and kidnapping.

Border fencing should be our top most priority and I am happy that our Army has finally realized it.

Are there conclusive proofs that they're somehow over-represented in all of this ? Reading some Pakistanis it looks like Afghans are a cocktail of Albanian and Sicilian mafias on steroids.

And as I said this logic is woefully similar to that of the European far-right (not only on refugees, but on immigrants as a whole).

Afghanistan has always provided spiritual direction to our peoples, for centuries, and there's a window of opportunities for all sides there.

Just like in any democratic country, they should only be granted citizenship after a naturalization test and an oath allegiance, many Afghans hate Pakistan despite growing up there and dream of a Greater Afghanistan stretching until the Indus.

No serious Afghan wants "Greater Afghanistan". Afghanistan's ethnic dynamic balance is poised on the fact that Pashtuns are slightly less than all other ethnic groups put together (Tajiks/Uzbeks/Hazaras), at 40-60 in the latter favor, who know that if Pashtuns ever become a majority (which would happen by including KPK), then they'd revive old memories, like Abdur Rahman Khan genociding Hazaras, etc and it would basically mean that current Afghanistan itself would lose a third of its (non Pashtun) territories.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Fence across border to be completed by end of 2019/20.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Pakistan building massive fence on Afghanistan border

 

[pakistan cricket fan]

I hope they will do it sooner rather then later

 

[PetroDollars]

15 years too late, the damage was done from 9/11 -2010.

Now they should just save money and mine the whole border,

 

[Varun]

Yes, fencing Afghan border is a good step and should have happened a long time ago. We should do the same with the Indian border.

The India - Pakistan International border has been fenced for decades. It is even visible from space:

Both our nations have this to thank for the lack of conflict in the international border zone. The LoC/Kashmir is a different story.

 

[Greenstorm]

The India - Pakistan International border has been fenced for decades. It is even visible from space:

Both our nations have this to thank for the lack of conflict in the international border zone. The LoC/Kashmir is a different story.

Yes, I know that India has fenced its side of the border but we must fence ours. Right now India has complete control over the movement across borderline. This means that it can infiltrate its agents and spies into Pakistani territory but we cannot return the favour this way.

 

[the Great Khan]

there wont be a wall. there will be a fence and at key points there will be forts and checkposts. We did not want to do this. Our ideal situation is an open border with afghanistan with afghanistan in peace..but alas we can no longer afford the casualties from attacks..therefore the fencing is necessary for now until peace can come to afghanistan.

 

[ChuckLee]

there wont be a wall. there will be a fence and at key points there will be forts and checkposts. We did not want to do this. Our ideal situation is an open border with afghanistan with afghanistan in peace..but alas we can no longer afford the casualties from attacks..therefore the fencing is necessary for now until peace can come to afghanistan.

The wall should of been put up in 1947. Or at least some sort of fence. Too long we have allowed these terrorists come and go through our borders and kill our people and destroy our economy. Not to mention our international ties and perception.

 

[ChuckLee]

The India - Pakistan International border has been fenced for decades. It is even visible from space:

Both our nations have this to thank for the lack of conflict in the international border zone. The LoC/Kashmir is a different story.

I think that fence has brought peace and long standing mutual agreements. It stops conspiracies from both sides claiming movement of spies and terrorists from either side

 

[the Great Khan]

The wall should of been put up in 1947. Or at least some sort of fence. Too long we have allowed these terrorists come and go through our borders and kill our people and destroy our economy. Not to mention our international ties and perception.

We couldn't make pencils in 1947 so building a big massive fence would have been a momentous undertaking..they are doing the right thing right now..