Building an innings: Babar Azam could learn from Rohit Sharma

[Dingolfy]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8532/scorecard/535797/Bangladesh-vs-India-4th-Match-asia-cup/

Rubbish batsman, this Sachin, tuk-tuked against BD trundlers when Jahurul Islam and Nasir Hossain were scoring faster.

See? I can write nonsense too.

Thanks for bringing this up. Sachin was finished by then and struggling to hit even trundlers.Not even die-hard Sachin fan would say that was a great innings.That is why he reitred in next year. Now, if you want to say 23 year old Babar Azam is good as that of almost finished 39 year old Sachin at the fag end of his career, then I have no qualms to admit that.

 

[Abdullah719]

Thanks for bringing this up. Sachin was finished by then and struggling to hit even trundlers.Not even die-hard Sachin fan would say that was a great innings.That is why he reitred in next year. Now, if you want to say 23 year old Babar Azam is good as that of almost finished 39 year old Sachin at the fag end of his career, then I have no qualms to admit that.

Did any Pakistani say that Babar played a great knock in the first match against SL?

Did you miss the thread where it was called 'one of the worst ODI knocks'?

Do you realise the context of the innings?

Now, if you can use Babar's poor innings to make a silly generalisation about his standing as a batsman overall, then I can do the same about basically any batsman in return as well. But thankfully I prefer to use common sense.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Babar is a very different player to Rohit Sharma. Different roles. Rohit is a hit or miss nowadays and he can afford to be that with Dhawan and Kohli alongside him. Babar is the glue that holds Pakistan batting together. Him getting out early exposes our unreliable yet mercurial middle-order.

Don't agree with Sharma being a hack aswell. His range of shots when set is better than Kohli or Dhawan.

 

[Dingolfy]

Did any Pakistani say that Babar played a great knock in the first match against SL?

Did you miss the thread where it was called 'one of the worst ODI knocks'?

Do you realise the context of the innings?

Now, if you can use Babar's poor innings to make a silly generalisation about his standing as a batsman overall, then I can do the same about basically any batsman in return as well. But thankfully I prefer to use common sense.

it is not about one innings.His entire S/R in this series was poor.My point is that, he has not done anything yet to prove that he is even close to Rohit as a batsman who is a beastly hitter once gets set and has two double centuries for christ's sake!

 

[Abdullah719]

it is not about one innings.His entire S/R in this series was poor.My point is that, he has not done anything yet to prove that he is even close to Rohit as a batsman who is a beastly hitter once gets set and has two double centuries for christ's sake!

You are still ignoring context. Do check the totals in the match where he scored his second hundred, and check the overall scores in the series. What are your thoughts on the UAE pitches? Do you really think they are comparable to Indian or Australia pitches in terms of run-scoring?

I am not interested in comparing these two due to a relatively small sample size but as I mentioned earlier, Rohit has displayed insane levels of acceleration at times, which few batsmen have shown so obviously that's something Babar needs to improve on. I think it will come naturally over a period of time as he's still fairly new to international level. Plus, he hasn't played that many matches on true pitches. On the other hand, Rohit is pretty poor against lateral movement so I think Babar is comfortably ahead in that aspect.

 

[Dingolfy]

You are still ignoring context. Do check the totals in the match where he scored his second hundred, and check the overall scores in the series. What are your thoughts on the UAE pitches? Do you really think they are comparable to Indian or Australia pitches in terms of run-scoring?

I am not interested in comparing these two due to a relatively small sample size but as I mentioned earlier, Rohit has displayed insane levels of acceleration at times, which few batsmen have shown so obviously that's something Babar needs to improve on. I think it will come naturally over a period of time as he's still fairly new to international level. Plus, he hasn't played that many matches on true pitches. On the other hand, Rohit is pretty poor against lateral movement so I think Babar is comfortably ahead in that aspect.

Any proof of that? If he was, he wouldn't have struggled in Tests against second string trundlers.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Any proof of that? If he was, he wouldn't have struggled in Tests against second string trundlers.

I agree with you that on this forum there seems to be a perception that B Azam is somewhat bette batsman playing in swinging conditions based on his one innings against Nz where he scored 90 odd runs. If failure in one innings isnt enough to dismiss a batsman then same logic should applied. Beside he did failed in remaining ininings of that series. B Azam is very good player for his team the kind of role he is playing. He will never able to match the striking abilities of AbD, Rohit, Kohli, Maxi, QdK, Smith etc for one simple reason, thats not his style nor role in the team.
But for someone to claim he is better than R Sharma(Odis) is partial true. He is ahead when it comes to building innings more consisitently which is why he average so much higher, however he is lacking when it comes to accelerating and taking game away from opposition.

 

[giri26]

Babar Azam is a very good young player but again I don't understand why Rohit Sharma is called a hack and not capable of scoring overseas. I guess people are confusing his test performances with his ODI's. Rohit Averages 51 in Australia, 53 in England and 39 in New Zealand. The only place he has struggled in SA where he averages just 12. Babar hasn't played in SA yet, his average in England is ordinary and has played approximately 1/5th of the total games Rohit has played in ODI's.

Babar is a good young player with a great future ahead of him and Rohit for all the flack he gets from the Indian fans has done quite well for himself in ODI's and has been good for India in the shorter formats. No need to compare the two. It is not a shame in learning something from your fellow player even if he is not in the same class as you. That is true in every industry and in general as well as people end up learning something from everyone they meet/see in all walks of life.

 

[Dingolfy]

I agree with you that on this forum there seems to be a perception that B Azam is somewhat bette batsman playing in swinging conditions based on his one innings against Nz where he scored 90 odd runs. If failure in one innings isnt enough to dismiss a batsman then same logic should applied. Beside he did failed in remaining ininings of that series. B Azam is very good player for his team the kind of role he is playing. He will never able to match the striking abilities of AbD, Rohit, Kohli, Maxi, QdK, Smith etc for one simple reason, thats not his style nor role in the team.
But for someone to claim he is better than R Sharma(Odis) is partial true. He is ahead when it comes to building innings more consisitently which is why he average so much higher, however he is lacking when it comes to accelerating and taking game away from opposition.

This.Even Sehwag had multiple good innings against seaming attacks but nobody would call him good against moving ball.For me, Babar is the best batsman in Pakistan team at the moment but nowhere close to Rohit Sharma in anything.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Accelerating the innings when needed is an essential quality. This is why guys like Rahane are viliified by fans.But pakistan fans may hve to stop with their expectations from him. He is never going to be a Rohit or Kohli. He probably will be like Trott, Amla.

 

[Cric1234]

Sharma averages 54 s/r of 90 as an opener in 86 innings those are great stats but isn't talked about much his improvement has been as good as anyone.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Has averaged above 50 five years in a row , amazing batsman.

 

[Abdullah719]

Any proof of that? If he was, he wouldn't have struggled in Tests against second string trundlers.

For that, you'd have to watch him bat consistently. Most of his dismissals in Tests have been due to his inability to pace innings properly and because he hasn't yet figured out his game for the longer formats. He often tends to play shots that aren't on, specially some poor shots early on in his innings but he doesn't struggle against lateral movement in the sense Rohit does.

Anyway over a longer period of time, it'll be clearer.

 

[Ab Fan]

Rohit's numbers are boosted in Australia by smashing weaker bowlers.

The knock vs Bangladesh in quarter final remains his best knock in Australia.

 

[Sidilicious]

Rohit's numbers are boosted in Australia by smashing weaker bowlers.

The knock vs Bangladesh in quarter final remains his best knock in Australia.

Wondering if this was against easy bowlers

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...carlton-mid-one-day-international-tri-series/

 

[Ab Fan]

Wondering if this was against easy bowlers

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...carlton-mid-one-day-international-tri-series/

Alright. This happened before the WC. Forgot that.

 

[Mamoon]

This is the first time you have ever said this.
Alhamdulillah, someone as ignorant as you is not our CS, captain or coach.

I also said it in the thread where you stated that Amir has been a bigger star than Kohli in all the Pakistan-India matches over the last year and a half.

Good ideas can come from anywhere and so can bad ideas. The management doesn't hold monopoly on strategic competence. For example, every man and his dog knew that playing one specialist spinner in a UAE Test series was an incredibly dumb idea. Everyone barring the management.

Furthermore, you seem to be unaware of the fact that Mickey plays Babar as an opener in the PSL, in order to accommodate more explosive hitters in the team. He anchors the innings from one end and the others bat around him. That's the role he should be playing in our T20 side as well.

Umar Akmal is a good T20 batsman by our standards and he was on the brink of selection but his poor fitness got into the way. However, he is working hard these days and if he has a good PSL, he will be selected.

Finally, speaking of ignorance, I think it is a bit rich coming from someone who considers Amla the second greatest ODI opener of all time and a better ODI batsman than Kohli, someone who thinks Rohit is a hack and Ajmal never chucked. In addition, someone who thinks Duminy that and McLaren are better hitters than de Villiers and Dhoni.

 

[Mamoon]

It's ridiculous to see someone want umar akmal back after all that has happened. Forget his batting he has a disgraceful attitude to cricket in general. Blaming fitness on water etc are just unacceptable for a profession cricketer. And his batting is also atrocious. He performs in 1 match but fails for the next 10. In psl he had only 1 good performance but failed in the rest which shows a done deal. Move on to the people that actually deserve to play. Better options are Amir yamin, Agha Salman and umar amin. Also babar opening is bad because it means powerplay overs cannot be utilised properly. Batting at 3 suits him more so that when there are runs on the board in the first few overs he can glue the innings together and let the power hitters do damage in the last few overs.

Sir, Umar is a good T20 player and Mickey likes him. His fitness is poor but he is working on it these days and if he has a successful PSL, he will be selected again. His attitude is indeed a concern, but the team environment is very good these days and the young players are getting along nicely.

I think Umar will fit in well, and he should be given a chance if he is scoring runs and improving his fitness. The fact that he is working hard these days indicates that he is willing to turn things around.

Babar is a touch player and he can find boundaries in PP overs. That is what he has done for Karachi in the PSL, and considering that Mickey is Karachi's coach, it is something that might be experimented with in international cricket as well.

However, he is not the type of batsman you would want in the last 5 overs because he struggles with the big shots. Yesterday, he cost the team 15-20 runs and could not compete with Malik. Someone like Umar would be more useful in this situation, with Babar moving one position up.

 

[Humza_Razzaque]

Lol.Bhaijan, your tuk-tuk struggles to score run-a-ball against Lankan trundlers and Rohit have murdered Australian bowlers for fun.Babar is not even good enough to be in List-A team in India let alone better than Rohit.

And thats why he ranks higher than him

 

[Bilal7]

So what should we call your tuk-tuk who couldn't even score against Lankan second string trundlers in the test series on UAE pattas? Man, I know you guys are excited after getting a half-decent batsman after a long time, but he ain't world beater and not even close to Rohit's level.

Babar Azam is already a better batsman than Rohit ever will be. Deal with it. He averages more, scores centuries quicker, scores more runs per innings, is miles ahead of Rohit against the moving ball and is actually a test-class player.

Dude, your trundlers conceded 444 against England in Engand which even minnows have not allowed.And then got bludgeoned in Australia for two consecutive 350 plus scores.Then again got massacred in CT by an out-of-form Yuvi of all people.Your CT and Sl dream be soon over and as long as your boys drop dollies like how they did against SL in the test series and the third ODI , quality batsemn across the world would easily hit your trundlers put of the park for 300s.

Keep fantasizing about our bowlers being hit for 300 while watching your bowlers being hit for 300. I'm sure it's quite fun.

Hacks can't play the shots that Guptill and Rohit can. Think you will be the only person to consider them hacks.

They're hacks for anyone who doesn't get hypnotized by their FTB-ing.

 

[Bilal7]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION], I was kidding earlier. Umar Akmal has always been a quality LO player and I would like to see him in the T20 team again. Not sure about Babar opening but it could work.

 

[indipper]

Dont know why he's escaping the axe for not performing. He's been a glorified Malik so far who can score daddy tons against out of form attacks but when it comes to slightly difficult situation, he has fallen apart twice.

 

[Savak]

Dont know why he's escaping the axe for not performing. He's been a glorified Malik so far who can score daddy tons against out of form attacks but when it comes to slightly difficult situation, he has fallen apart twice.

Babar Azam did well in the SL series, can't drop him for just 2 failures. The real problem is Azhar.

 

[indipper]

Babar Azam did well in the SL series, can't drop him for just 2 failures. The real problem is Azhar.

their attack was toothless. thats why. he was even selfish there.

Azhar plays slow and is not scoring now agreed, but why skipping Azam's name? only bcuz he did fine against eng or sl on dead tracks?

 

[Savak]

their attack was toothless. thats why. he was even selfish there.

Azhar plays slow and is not scoring now agreed, but why skipping Azam's name? only bcuz he did fine against eng or sl on dead tracks?

I guess all Indian records should be wiped out against the Sri Lankans as well right? UAE pitches aren't conducive to fast scoring.

 

[Smudger]

A couple of failures and every one wants him to be dropped . Kohli should be dropped after 2 failures in sa. Was kohli dropped after a dismal series in eng last time around. Was williamson dropped after a poor world cup. Players are also humans. Everyone us going to fail now and then . You cant score every match unless you are steve smith or don bradman.
Baber should be presisted with he can score runs in nz. Last time he got a run a ball 80.
Everyone was calling for exclusion of hafeez and look he has scored now. You got to have patience. Have you never failed in your life?

 

[indipper]

I guess all Indian records should be wiped out against the Sri Lankans as well right? UAE pitches aren't conducive to fast scoring.

Yes I dont consider Rohit's 200+ of any significance.

And UAE is slowish one. Its good to trash non subcontinental teams out but for Pakistani players its like a park walk.

A couple of failures and every one wants him to be dropped . Kohli should be dropped after 2 failures in sa. Was kohli dropped after a dismal series in eng last time around. Was williamson dropped after a poor world cup. Players are also humans. Everyone us going to fail now and then . You cant score every match unless you are steve smith or don bradman.
Baber should be presisted with he can score runs in nz. Last time he got a run a ball 80.
Everyone was calling for exclusion of hafeez and look he has scored now. You got to have patience. Have you never failed in your life?

Never want him or any other top order batsman to be dropped (except Imam), but everyone is criticizing Malik, Hafeez and Azhar but he is walking away un-noticed. He is supposed to be pillar of our batting and these should be best batting years of his life. Yet he is unable to build a single innings on difficult tracks so far. Hope I be wrong. He should be coming good.

 

[Smudger]

He can learn fron kane williamson or joe root

 

[indipper]

He can learn fron kane williamson or joe root

Yes! Even Guptill

 

[anindo]

If Pujara was selected for ODIs he would have played like Babar Azam - lots of runs at a middling strike rate and no power to accelerate.

 

[Lopuy]

I hope this delusion of babar azam better than Rohit Sharma is over given how both of them performed in the last one year or so. Also given the outputs of babar azam in the new zealand white wash and comparing to that of Rohit Sharma's in the said country, i guess it is more likely that Babar Azam is the one who can't play a moving ball compared to that of Rohit Sharma's ability.

Also now that Rohit Sharma is ranked higher than Babar Azam i hope you would agree that Babar Azam isn't even fit to tie Rohit Sharma's shoe laces just like how you tried to portray babar azam, the batsman, by showing his ratings.

[MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION]

 

[Ronaldo7]

I hope this delusion of babar azam better than Rohit Sharma is over given how both of them performed in the last one year or so. Also given the outputs of babar azam in the new zealand white wash and comparing to that of Rohit Sharma's in the said country, i guess it is more likely that Babar Azam is the one who can't play a moving ball compared to that of Rohit Sharma's ability.

Also now that Rohit Sharma is ranked higher than Babar Azam i hope you would agree that Babar Azam isn't even fit to tie Rohit Sharma's shoe laces just like how you tried to portray babar azam, the batsman, by showing his ratings.

[MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION]

Lol. Who said azam is better than Sharma?

 

[saeed5646]

I hope this delusion of babar azam better than Rohit Sharma is over given how both of them performed in the last one year or so. Also given the outputs of babar azam in the new zealand white wash and comparing to that of Rohit Sharma's in the said country, i guess it is more likely that Babar Azam is the one who can't play a moving ball compared to that of Rohit Sharma's ability.

Also now that Rohit Sharma is ranked higher than Babar Azam i hope you would agree that Babar Azam isn't even fit to tie Rohit Sharma's shoe laces just like how you tried to portray babar azam, the batsman, by showing his ratings.

[MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION]

where do have op mention babar azam is better than rohit sharma ?

Rohit Sharma starts slowly but as he crossed 50, he accelerates, till 100 he is run a ball. After century, he further accelerates and do good slogging, if required. Today, he completed his century in 33 rd over.

On the other hand, Babar couldn't accelerates with pasage of inning as required. His latest century came in 45th over, despite he came on crease at 5th over.

Babar Azam is very good player but he should improve on it specially when we will chase good total.

.Babar is 24 year old just starting to announce him in international cricket while other is experience companier

 

[Bewal Express]

Babar is a good player but lacks the power to go to the next level.

 

[Lopuy]

Lol. Who said azam is better than Sharma?

Check the one liner from Abdullah stating that Babar Azam has high rating point in comparison to Rohits', his very first comment on this thread. Obviously, he contemplated that Babar Azam is better than Rohit from that comment.

Also gave a read to this thread, there are plenty such comments, from usual suspects. I didn't expect that one liner from Abdullah, that's why the reply.

 

[Lopuy]

where do have op mention babar azam is better than rohit sharma ?




.Babar is 24 year old just starting to announce him in international cricket while other is experience companier

Read the thread carefully.

 

[saeed5646]

Read the thread carefully.

don,t get too touchy the only thing that matters is opening post rather than what individual think about it .you want people to praise rohit sharma by criticizing babar azam?

 

[Lopuy]

don,t get too touchy .you want people to praise rohit sharma by criticizing babar azam?

Calm down, i understand it is an emabarassing thread, but now that you have read the thread, hope you and all the other posters realize where Babar Azam stand in comparison to Rohit Sharma.

 

[Lopuy]

Also, i genuinely feel and i am really not kidding that Babar should give a call to Rohit Sharma and should take some tips from him on how to play in UAE in ODI's against top 5 teams, and not just minnows, with a healthy strike rate, if the latter isn't busy though he seems much busy nowadays.

Babar Azam had a good chance to meet Rohit Sharma in person on September 2018. Rohit Sharma was there in UAE just for showing some of his skills to other players from some minnow teams.

 

[saeed5646]

Calm down, i understand it is an emabarassing thread, but now that you have read the thread, hope you and all the other posters realize where Babar Azam stand in comparison to Rohit Sharma.

why you are attacking 24 year old compare to 32 year old who have played 200+ odis .Lets compare the total number of odis babar azam have played so far and where was rohit sharma at that stage





See the difference your self unless you already knows what the future be like for babar azam he was way ahead of rohit sharma at similar stage of both

 

[saeed5646]

Also, i genuinely feel and i am really not kidding that Babar should give a call to Rohit Sharma and should take some tips from him on how to play in UAE in ODI's against top 5 teams, and not just minnows, with a healthy strike rate, if the latter isn't busy though he seems much busy nowadays.

Babar Azam had a good chance to meet Rohit Sharma in person on September 2018. Rohit Sharma was there in UAE just for showing some of his skills to other players from some minnow teams.

yeah he clearly needs advise for test format where rohit sharma record and defense was outstanding

 

[Lopuy]

why you are attacking 24 year old compare to 32 year old who have played 200+ odis .Lets compare the total number of odis babar azam have played so far and where was rohit sharma at that stage

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See the difference your self unless you already knows what the future be like for babar azam he was way ahead of rohit sharma at similar stage of both

Good now that you have ran away to bring in these stats, it tells you how the argument that Babar Azam is already better that present Rohit Sharma falls flat and puts egg on the faces of the commentors.

Such stats can also be produced to show how Babar Azam was better than Viv at the similar stage and also how an unknown player was better than Babar Azam at similar stages of their carrer. These Age-Wise stats don't mean much when cricket as a game isn't a linear sport. But then i understand the excitement among the pakistani fans regarding Babar Azam, when after a long while you have got a player who can atleast play. But then he has to actually score some runs against top 5 teams to be considered a player who has the possibility of becoming a good player let alone to be compared to some elite players.

 

[saeed5646]

Good now that you have ran away to bring in these stats, it tells you how the argument that Babar Azam is already better that present Rohit Sharma falls flat and puts egg on the faces of the commentors.

Such stats can also be produced to show how Babar Azam was better than Viv at the similar stage and also how an unknown player was better than Babar Azam at similar stages of their carrer. These Age-Wise stats don't mean much when cricket as a game isn't a linear sport. But then i understand the excitement among the pakistani fans regarding Babar Azam, when after a long while you have got a player who can atleast play. But then he has to actually score some runs against top 5 teams to be considered a player who has the possibility of becoming a good player let alone to be compared to some elite players.

stats don,t lie your rohit sharma had a horror start to his international cricket which he rectify latter and now he is world class batsmen in odis
let me straight few thing for you

current rohit sharma is world class in odis but that does not mean babar azam can be or cannot when he reached at that age . The stats i show for that example no body could have thought rohit sharma will that good in future ,So calm down and leave the kid alone other wise there are enough leap hole which i can identify and make fun of rohit.

 

[Mamoon]

There is nothing Babar can learn from Rohit who is a freak. He is probably the only player in history who could be 30 off 60 balls, but score 100 runs of his next 40 deliveries. His ability to switch gears is unparalleled.

 

[Lopuy]

yeah he clearly needs advise for test format where rohit sharma record and defense was outstanding

I am talking of about ODI here

You don't have to be defensive in our conversation. Come on, i understand your frustration, but please at least try to stay on the topic.

Even though this thread is on ODI, even though if you want to talk about both of their test careers, i am more than happy to talk on that. I will like to dwelve or more so just glance at the test career of Babar, because he actually has to do something in tests to actually dwelve into.

You can understand the level of babar azam when Rohit Sharma wipes the floor with Babar Azam in tests even when test is latter's worst format in terms of performances.

 

[saeed5646]

I am talking of about ODI here

You don't have to be defensive in our conversation. Come on, i understand your frustration, but please at least try to stay on the topic.

Even though this thread is on ODI, even though if you want to talk about both of their test careers, i am more than happy to talk on that. I will like to dwelve or more so just glance at the test career of Babar, because he actually has to do something in tests to actually dwelve into.

You can understand the level of babar azam when Rohit Sharma wipes the floor with Babar Azam in tests even when test is latter's worst format in terms of performances.

he has done enough in test in single tour of SA compare to rohit sharma 2 to 3 tour to Sa .Then again why would you admit it your ego is too big to accept that

on a side note i want babar azam to do what elite player do in test format reaching rohit sharma is nothing achievement

 

[Lopuy]

stats don,t lie your rohit sharma had a horror start to his international cricket which he rectify latter and now he is world class batsmen in odis
let me straight few thing for you

current rohit sharma is world class in odis but that does not mean babar azam can be or cannot when he reached at that age . The stats i show for that example no body could have thought rohit sharma will that good in future ,So calm down and leave the kid alone other wise there are enough leap hole which i can identify and make fun of rohit.

Good, now that you have understood how shameful this comparison was or is, especially, now, when Rohit Sharma schooled him and his country in their own turf and the so called Hannibal of Uae was put into his place by indian bowlers, we talk of about Babr Azams auperior stats in comparison to Rohits'

As i told you, your babar azam stats areeven better than Vi, so he can actually be better than Viv let alone Rohit or for that matter Sachin. I know he is going to become the best batsmen of this generation be rest assured, i am not even debating that, i am just saying that he can only do better that viv and sachin against only the minnow teams.

It is clear how good is he as a batsman when you take a look into his stats see how many runs he has scores against ZIM, IRE, BANG, AFGHANISTAN and then compare them to the the runs scored against the top 5. The Asia cup and the New Zealand series is the true reflection of his capabilities and according to me, just not to disappoint you or your brethren, i give him the desgnation of

Sir Babar Azam of minnows.

 

[saeed5646]

Good, now that you have understood how shameful this comparison was or is, especially, now, when Rohit Sharma schooled him and his country in their own turf and the so called Hannibal of Uae was put into his place by indian bowlers, we talk of about Babr Azams auperior stats in comparison to Rohits'

it is illogical to compare 200+ odis with 61 .One is established other is just starting his career .Lets see where babar stand when he reached at the age of 32

As i told you, your babar azam stats areeven better than Vi, so he can actually be better than Viv let alone Rohit or for that matter Sachin. I know he is going to become the best batsmen of this generation be rest assured, i am not even debating that, i am just saying that he can only do better that viv and sachin against only the minnow teams.

It is clear how good is he as a batsman when you take a look into his stats see how many runs he has scores against ZIM, IRE, BANG, AFGHANISTAN and then compare them to the the runs scored against the top 5. The Asia cup and the New Zealand series is the true reflection of his capabilities and according to me, just not to disappoint you or your brethren, i give him the desgnation of

Sir Babar Azam of minnows.

this is his recent odi record against Sa in SA
matches 5
runs 195
average 48.75

if that is not enough is that good
nz vs pak odi series 2018
matches 3
runs 138
average 46.00

And a fifty against england recently .Does that look terrible number to you against top side? he have up the game against top side recently.too bad you are still stuck with his few failure and don.t see any positive in recent time

 

[jnaveen1980]

Not the current Rohit sharma.

 

[Lopuy]

he has done enough in test in single tour of SA compare to rohit sharma 2 to 3 tour to Sa .Then again why would you admit it your ego is too big to accept that

on a side note i want babar azam to do what elite player do in test format reaching rohit sharma is nothing achievement

Actually, my ego is quite small, but yes, i agree with you, it is still quite big in comparison to babar azam's teat career

I too remember his SA tour and yes he played quite good as compared to his standards, and also think that this will be his only good foreign tour as a batsman.

Only one fifty, avg below 40.

It is actually quite a good reflection of amazing babar azam's best tour of his amazing test career.

He can obviously can't do much against Sri Lanka against whom Rohit Sharma has played some wonderful innings.
I know it is just Sri Lanka, a minnow now. But your Babar Azam gets out against them after facing just some balls and can't even stay at the crease, your country gets whitewashed against this same minnow team. Rohit Sharma played wonderfully against Sri Lanka when the country's test team was a force to reckon, which your babar azam can only dream of.

 

[Lopuy]

it is illogical to compare 200+ odis with 61 .One is established other is just starting his career .Lets see where babar stand when he reached at the age of 32


this is his recent odi record against Sa in SA
matches 5
runs 195
average 48.75

if that is not enough is that good
nz vs pak odi series 2018
matches 3
runs 138
average 46.00

And a fifty against england recently .Does that look terrible number to you against top side? he have up the game against top side recently.too bad you are still stuck with his few failure and don.t see any positive in recent time

Good that you are happy with a fifty against England. Thats quite an amazing thing for Sir Babar Azam of minnows.

And yes i am happy that he averaged in 40s in these tours as compared to 70s, which de does against the minnows in these tours, also its quite good he could only muster one or two fifties in these tours in comparison to five or 6 hundreds in as many matches, which he does against the minnows.

And yes i agree you should be quite happy with that recent one fifty of babar azams. It truly reflects the sort the character Sir Babar Azam of minnows has.

 

[saeed5646]

Actually, my ego is quite small, but yes, i agree with you, it is still quite big in comparison to babar azam's teat career

I too remember his SA tour and yes he played quite good as compared to his standards, and also think that this will be his only good foreign tour as a batsman.

Only one fifty, avg below 40.

It is actually quite a good reflection of amazing babar azam's best tour of his amazing test career.

He can obviously can't do much against Sri Lanka against whom Rohit Sharma has played some wonderful innings.
I know it is just Sri Lanka, a minnow now. But your Babar Azam gets out against them after facing just some balls and can't even stay at the crease, your country gets whitewashed against this same minnow team. Rohit Sharma played wonderfully against Sri Lanka when the country's test team was a force to reckon, which your babar azam can only dream of.

Yeah ofcourse who can replicate the rohit sharma test heroics against sL.BTW did he have any in eng,nz ,sa ?as i said babar is just 24 year old scoring 3 century with average of 37 should be not goal .he should model elite player like kohli and score many runs in overseas

 

[Lopuy]

Yeah ofcourse who can replicate the rohit sharma test heroics against sL.BTW did he have any in eng,nz ,sa ?as i said babar is just 24 year old scoring 3 century with average of 37 should be not goal .he should model elite player like kohli and score many runs in overseas

Yes Of course, i agree, Babar can't replicate Rohit in test, not atleast with that tailenderish stats in test format. I guess he should first try to emulate Ravi Ashwins test figures before even thinking of challenging Rohit.
And i don't even want to talk on Virat Kohli, its just absurd to even think of that, well he won't be able to achieve even 70% of what Virat Kohli has achieved even if he faces underarm bowling and on top of that is given 4 chances to bat in a test

 

[saeed5646]

Yes Of course, i agree, Babar can't replicate Rohit in test, not atleast with that tailenderish stats in test format. I guess he should first try to emulate Ravi Ashwins test figures before even thinking of challenging Rohit.
And i don't even want to talk on Virat Kohli, its just absurd to even think of that, well he won't be able to achieve even 70% of what Virat Kohli has achieved even if he faces underarm bowling and on top of that is given 4 chances to bat in a test

wait babar have 35 batting average in test (Lets ignore his 50 + from last two years where he improve it from career average from 27 to 35 )is talienderish bu to rohit sharma 37 career average is better.if you did not answer me seriously i won,t continue the argument with troll like you

 

[Hyperion66]

So there are people on this earth who actually believe Babar is better than Sharmaji!! Wow

 

[Hyperion66]

yeah he clearly needs advise for test format where rohit sharma record and defense was outstanding

Lmao, you do realize you are talking about Babar and his poultry farming test record, right?

 

[saeed5646]

Lmao, you do realize you are talking about Babar and his poultry farming test record, right?

Yeah right.

 

[Ronaldo7]

So there are people on this earth who actually believe Babar is better than Sharmaji!! Wow

Who are you kidding??
Babar is better than Rohit in test cricket. He's talking about tests not odis.

 

[Hyperion66]

Who are you kidding??
Babar is better than Rohit in test cricket. He's talking about tests not odis.

In which universe Babar is a better test cricketer?

 

[Darkrai]

In which universe Babar is a better test cricketer?

Every universe.

 

[Hyperion66]

Every universe.

You are mistaking your own bubble for every universe then, Babar is quite mediocre as far as test cricket is concerned, I don't even need to check stats for that.

 

[pks85333]

There is nothing Babar can learn from Rohit who is a freak. He is probably the only player in history who could be 30 off 60 balls, but score 100 runs of his next 40 deliveries. His ability to switch gears is unparalleled.

Stats on Rohit Sharma's 264

He reached his 50 in 72 balls (24th over). Took only 94 balls to score his next 200 runs.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Babar has many things to prove - playing under pressure, consistency against big teams away from home especially in touch conditions, upping strike rate when needed, seeing the team home.

Yet Pakistan is lucky to have him. He sets high standards for batting for everyone in the team - which Pakistan hasn't had for a while.

At this stage, rather than comparisons, focus should be on his development in the above areas.