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Building an innings: Babar Azam could learn from Rohit Sharma

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Rohit Sharma starts slowly but as he crossed 50, he accelerates, till 100 he is run a ball. After century, he further accelerates and do good slogging, if required. Today, he completed his century in 33 rd over.

On the other hand, Babar couldn't accelerates with pasage of inning as required. His latest century came in 45th over, despite he came on crease at 5th over.

Babar Azam is very good player but he should improve on it specially when we will chase good total.
 
Babar has two simple innings building issues:
1. Too slow initially
2. Not continuing on once in three figures

To overly criticize him at such an early stage of his career by having to compare him with the best ODI opener on earth is a bit picky, but we should hold him to a high standard because that's the standard he can achieve and should aspire to reach.

I think Babar losing his wicket to loose shots would be a bigger concern so him holding back a bit to ensure an innings long pivoting knock is one of the better biggest flaws a batsman in the early stage of his career can have.
 
Lookng at his age, average and number of centuries, batsmen should be learning from him I feel.
 
Firstly Roht is a class player. But they are playing on completely different wickets. UAE wickets are slow and sluggish and even Sharma would habe struggled with big hitting there. In India you have 65 metres boundaries, get’s very tough to clear a 80 metres boundary on a slow pitch in UAE.
 
But what Babar actually could learn from Kohli and Sharma is their work on fitness. Allthough Rohit looks overweight he has tremendous stamina, you can not hit double ton if your fitness is poor.
 
HuzaifaE said:
Babar has two simple innings building issues:
1. Too slow initially
2. Not continuing on once in three figures

To overly criticize him at such an early stage of his career by having to compare him with the best ODI opener on earth is a bit picky, but we should hold him to a high standard because that's the standard he can achieve and should aspire to reach.

I think Babar losing his wicket to loose shots would be a bigger concern so him holding back a bit to ensure an innings long pivoting knock is one of the better biggest flaws a batsman in the early stage of his career can have.
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Lol what ? :danish
 
Babar is still learning and will only get better from here on InShaAllah
 
UAE pitches suck....
but seriously Babar needs to stay after scoring century and go berserk at the same time.
 
Babar is miles ahead as a one day batsman which his stats suggest depsite being disadvantaged due to playin on slow and low pitches rather than at the GSL where he looks like he will never be dismissed. Rohit is a loose hack compared to him
 
I hope Babar never learsn from Rohit.. Rohit is a selfish player and seen him quite a few times taking ages to reach his 100.. for example recent champions trophy match against Sri Lanka where he scored 125 off 128 and cost his team the match.
 
Secondlz I saw today's match and this pitch was a phatta plus NZ bowlers bowled rubbish.. Cant compare with Babar's Uae hundred on slow pitches.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
I hope Babar never learsn from Rohit.. Rohit is a selfish player and seen him quite a few times taking ages to reach his 100.. for example recent champions trophy match against Sri Lanka where he scored 125 off 128 and cost his team the match.
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that was dhawan
 
Sidilicious said:
that was dhawan
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sorry yes Rohit also scored 70 something which was not that good considering the pitch.. he plays too slow sometimes especiallz near his hundred.. I said in the champions trophhy that india should look fo someone else who is more of a team player
 
If any1 Babar should learn to build an innings from, it is Kohli..
He starts slowly taking his time to set and gradually picks up pace and after 50 he scores pretty fast. Also a selfless player..
 
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Unfortunately Babar who is the best among us does not have the ability to score quickly and big. His scoring limit is around 120-140. You need muscle to play power shot which Babar lack plus in ability to rotate strike frequently.
 
He aint got the shots to play like Rohit.Rohit though struggles when the ball moves initially, is a beastly hitter when he is set.
 
Babar Azam is a far better batsman than that hack and does not have to learn anything from him.
 
Bilal7 said:
Babar Azam is a far better batsman than that hack and does not have to learn anything from him.
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Lol.Bhaijan, your tuk-tuk struggles to score run-a-ball against Lankan trundlers and Rohit have murdered Australian bowlers for fun.Babar is not even good enough to be in List-A team in India let alone better than Rohit.
 
Dingolfy said:
Lol.Bhaijan, your tuk-tuk struggles to score run-a-ball against Lankan trundlers and Rohit have murdered Australian bowlers for fun.Babar is not even good enough to be in List-A team in India let alone better than Rohit.
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You say this... but India would love to have a batsman like Babar Azam.
 
Dingolfy said:
Lol.Bhaijan, your tuk-tuk struggles to score run-a-ball against Lankan trundlers and Rohit have murdered Australian bowlers for fun.Babar is not even good enough to be in List-A team in India let alone better than Rohit.
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Okay. :))
 
babajee said:
You say this... but India would love to have a batsman like Babar Azam.
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For what? Tuk-Tuking at 70 s/r when everbody else is scoring at run-a-ball.We already complain about Dhoni and atleast he runs faster than him and still can hit hard.On top of it, he is a pathetic fielder.He would have walked into our 90's team though.
 
Bilal7 said:
Babar Azam is a far better batsman than that hack and does not have to learn anything from him.
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Just because Babar is a better batsman (and I agree that Babar is a better overall bat than Rohit) does not mean that Babar can do everything Rohit can. Babar despite being a better bat is not able to pick the tempo us well as Rohit can.

No shame in admitting that.
 
Bilal7 said:
Shhh... Let's not be impolite to the cricket-ly challenged.
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Lol.Bhailog, there is a correlation between your tuk-tuk batsmen and your inability to chase anything over 250.Ponder that first and then we will talk about cricket-ly challenged.
 
I hope he doesn't learn from Rohit Sharma how to be a complete dud against the moving ball.
 
OP is comparing apple with oranges. Baber Azam doesn't have a talent of Rohit Sharma. He is an inferior version of Virat Kohli. He would never score 150 inside 40 overs.
This thread would have made sense if OP was referring to Umar Akmal not Baber Azam.
 
Dingolfy said:
Lol.Bhailog, there is a correlation between your tuk-tuk batsmen and your inability to chase anything over 250.Ponder that first and then we will talk about cricket-ly challenged.
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The thing is....... Our bowling doesn't even allow us to chase anything over 250.
 
Rohit has an unique talent of hitting sixes against pace bowlers at will once set. Look at the number of sixes he has hit against Australia. It is hard even for Kohli to match that.
 
Rohit is batting with an ATG who is holding the fort. it's slightly different. Compare that to what babar is batting with
 
BAbar does not have the power or ability or the shot range that Rohit possesses.

What Babar has over Rohit is consistency. Many times with Rohit, he throws his wicket away after scoring 20 or 30 runs. I am yet to see Babar throw his wicket away cheaply.

Overall, BAbar and Rohit are 2 different kinds of players. No point in comparing them.

To me Babar will always be a 100s/r batsman at best with good consistency. He will never destroy the bowling after reaching a 50 or 100 as he simply lacks that skill.
 
Syed1 said:
The thing is....... Our bowling doesn't even allow us to chase anything over 250.
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Sure.we have seen that in England series and Australia.Not every team is Srilanka and we will see that again im your next tour with Kiwis.
 
Babar is a technically gifted player, but his attitude is poor. In this series against the Sri Lankans he's often put his own personal score above the teams, and at times we've relied on the bowlers to ensure we don't get punished for it. In the ODIs he often slowed right down when approaching milestones.
 
The thing which Babar actually lacks is power hitting. The guy is not capable of playing a blinder such as a 30 ball 50 in most circumstances. Secondly he isn't able to go from 100 to 140 in 20 deliveries.
 
Babar doesn't seem to be dynamic enough for number 3 in T20s. I would make him open so that he can hold one end at run a ball, and bring Umar Akmal into the middle-order.
 
Sidilicious said:
Possibly requires more gym work.
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Not really. Look at Malik at the other end. He was not exactly muscling the ball. It has more to do with technique. Babar kept trying to hit the ball straight and hard but couldn't manage to get underneath the ball. Malik on the other hand knew what to do, he would open the face of the bat to carve the ball through the covers, bend low and try to to turn it into a full toss etc. Babar on the other hand tried to hit from a stand straight and hit from a stable base which works well in the early part of the innings but not so much later on, he tried to move around at times but wasn't really successful which again just shows that he didn't know exactly what to do. Babar needs to look at Malik and see how he manages to score quickly at the death end of the innings. He needs to find a way to carve out Yorkers for boundaries. He also needs to find some six hitting strokes which he can pull off with consistency such as Malik who can charge the spinners and come out on top 9 times out of ten.
 
Yes but Rohit has that extra gear and hence he can afford to play slow because after getting set he knows he will make up the run rate anytime he wants.

The ease with which he can hits 4s and 6s, he can afford to be a 50(65) because he will convert that into 130(115).

Now suppose Williamson starts off slowly. Do you think he can bat faster enough later to convert a 50(70) into 120(110)?
 
Rohit is weak against swing and seam when a left arm pacer is up against him and can move the ball into the batsmen. This is why he has struggled till now against left arm pacers up front.

He isn't a hack. A hack can't built an inning the way Rohit can or convert the starts into big hundreds.
 
Different pitches and Rohit's hitting ability is exceptional once he's in.

Babar doesn't have that range of strokeplay (yet) and this is something he'll develop over time.

In addition...

AFTER 36 ODIS

Rohit Sharma: 25.48 AVG (73 SR)
Babar Azam: 58.60 AVG (85.88 SR)
 
Hasan123 said:
Rohit isn't a hack.
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Yes. He is. He is an absolute clown against the moving ball and a failure in test cricket. No other batsman fits the definition of "hack" better than he does.

Mamoon said:
As I always say, you never, never fail to disappoint.
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This is the first time you have ever said this.

Mamoon said:
Babar doesn't seem to be dynamic enough for number 3 in T20s. I would make him open so that he can hold one end at run a ball, and bring Umar Akmal into the middle-order.
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Alhamdulillah, someone as ignorant as you is not our CS, captain or coach.
 
Dingolfy said:
Sure.we have seen that in England series and Australia.Not every team is Srilanka and we will see that again im your next tour with Kiwis.
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Hey, that 180 runs thumping? It was not a dream. Pakistan is the best bowling attack in the world, Alhamdulillah.

We definitely have the batting to chase down and set 300 but our bowlers simply won't allow that. Why should our batsmen bother setting 300+ targets when the opposition won't come within 180 runs of that score?
 
Bilal7 said:
Hey, that 180 runs thumping? It was not a dream. Pakistan is the best bowling attack in the world, Alhamdulillah.

We definitely have the batting to chase down and set 300 but our bowlers simply won't allow that. Why should our batsmen bother setting 300+ targets when the opposition won't come within 180 runs of that score?
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man if you bowling attack is best in the world then it should had destroyer Australia team in Australia
which happened not so Australia bowling is still world best
 
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Mamoon said:
Babar doesn't seem to be dynamic enough for number 3 in T20s. I would make him open so that he can hold one end at run a ball, and bring Umar Akmal into the middle-order.
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Babar is just about good enough at no. 3

The problem is our openers are co plate duds with Falhar our of form and Shehzad being inconsistent (despite having the best stats). Umar Amin/Imam are at best a run a ball type of players...

If one of the openers tee off - Babar can afford to play at a run a ball or just over run a ball.

The issue I see with Babar is that he does not accelerate towards the death overs.
 
Bilal7 said:
Yes. He is. He is an absolute clown against the moving ball and a failure in test cricket. No other batsman fits the definition of "hack" better than he does.



This is the first time you have ever said this.



Alhamdulillah, someone as ignorant as you is not our CS, captain or coach.
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He is rubbish versus the moving ball that is true but someone who can hit 360 degrees versus pace and spin isn't a hack. A hack is someone who targets one side and slots the ball. Rohit does neither.
 
I would open with Babar next series,

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Babar Azam
3. Haris Sohail
4. Malik
5. Sarfaraz
 
Hasan123 said:
He is rubbish versus the moving ball that is true but someone who can hit 360 degrees versus pace and spin isn't a hack. A hack is someone who targets one side and slots the ball. Rohit does neither.
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There are degrees. He's not a cheap hack like Awais Zia but apart from a wider range of shots and better temperament, he's a hack. So is Guptil.
 
Bilal7 said:
There are degrees. He's not a cheap hack like Awais Zia but apart from a wider range of shots and better temperament, he's a hack. So is Guptil.
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Hacks can't play the shots that Guptill and Rohit can. Think you will be the only person to consider them hacks.
 
Bilal7 said:
Hey, that 180 runs thumping? It was not a dream. Pakistan is the best bowling attack in the world, Alhamdulillah.

We definitely have the batting to chase down and set 300 but our bowlers simply won't allow that. Why should our batsmen bother setting 300+ targets when the opposition won't come within 180 runs of that score?
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Dude, your trundlers conceded 444 against England in Engand which even minnows have not allowed.And then got bludgeoned in Australia for two consecutive 350 plus scores.Then again got massacred in CT by an out-of-form Yuvi of all people.Your CT and Sl dream be soon over and as long as your boys drop dollies like how they did against SL in the test series and the third ODI , quality batsemn across the world would easily hit your trundlers put of the park for 300s.
 
Dingolfy said:
Dude, your trundlers conceded 444 against England in Engand which even minnows have not allowed.And then got bludgeoned in Australia for two consecutive 350 plus scores.Then again got massacred in CT by an out-of-form Yuvi of all people.Your CT and Sl dream be soon over and as long as your boys drop dollies like how they did against SL in the test series and the third ODI , quality batsemn across the world would easily hit your trundlers put of the park for 300s.
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444 happened when Azhar was the captain.. Come back when this team under Sarfraz get hit for 330+.. We have the most complete bowling attack with a captain who knows how to get the best out of them.. If I am not wrong Pakistan tops the list of restricting teams to low score under Sarfraz.. Next series is in NZ on small grounds, wait and watch!
 
Dingolfy said:
Dude, your trundlers conceded 444 against England in Engand which even minnows have not allowed.And then got bludgeoned in Australia for two consecutive 350 plus scores.Then again got massacred in CT by an out-of-form Yuvi of all people.Your CT and Sl dream be soon over and as long as your boys drop dollies like how they did against SL in the test series and the third ODI , quality batsemn across the world would easily hit your trundlers put of the park for 300s.
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bloody hell someone is wounded:)))
 
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SarfiBabarHaris said:
444 happened when Azhar was the captain.. Come back when this team under Sarfraz get hit for 330+.. We have the most complete bowling attack with a captain who knows how to get the best out of them.. If I am not wrong Pakistan tops the list of restricting teams to low score under Sarfraz.. Next series is in NZ on small grounds, wait and watch!
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Bhaijan, you still have fielders with butter fingers and same Hasan Ali went for 70 runs in 10 overs against India in CT.I don't see any magic potion in Sarfaraz's hands which would change things. Rather he becomes angry and shouts at his players when things go wrong.That might work against SL and also in a knock-out tournament like CT but not in a full fledged series.So let us see how your boys do in NewZealand.
 
Mamoon said:
Babar doesn't seem to be dynamic enough for number 3 in T20s. I would make him open so that he can hold one end at run a ball, and bring Umar Akmal into the middle-order.
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It's ridiculous to see someone want umar akmal back after all that has happened. Forget his batting he has a disgraceful attitude to cricket in general. Blaming fitness on water etc are just unacceptable for a profession cricketer. And his batting is also atrocious. He performs in 1 match but fails for the next 10. In psl he had only 1 good performance but failed in the rest which shows a done deal. Move on to the people that actually deserve to play. Better options are Amir yamin, Agha Salman and umar amin. Also babar opening is bad because it means powerplay overs cannot be utilised properly. Batting at 3 suits him more so that when there are runs on the board in the first few overs he can glue the innings together and let the power hitters do damage in the last few overs.
 
Not a fan of Rohit, but it's laughable to call a player with the highest ever ODI score a 'hack'. Imagine ia Pak batsman doing the same, what the reaction of their fans would be :)))
 
Sachin136 said:
Gambhir's and Pujara's best ever test ratings are higher than Miandad's. Bailey's best ever ODI rating is higher than Anwar and Inzamam. :shhh
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And Chanderpaul's Test rating better than Tendulkar's....

If you read the thread post by post then you will see my post was in response to the 'experts' claiming that Babar is a pathetic batsman, a tuk-tuker, rubbish cricketer.

There are a few things that Babar the ODI batsman can learn from Rohit the ODI batsman but some people are hell-bent on furthering their own biases.
 
Bilal7 said:
Yes. He is. He is an absolute clown against the moving ball and a failure in test cricket. No other batsman fits the definition of "hack" better than he does.
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So what should we call your tuk-tuk who couldn't even score against Lankan second string trundlers in the test series on UAE pattas? Man, I know you guys are excited after getting a half-decent batsman after a long time, but he ain't world beater and not even close to Rohit's level.
 
Abdullah719 said:
And Chanderpaul's Test rating better than Tendulkar's....

If you read the thread post by post then you will see my post was in response to the 'experts' claiming that Babar is a pathetic batsman, a tuk-tuker, rubbish cricketer.

There are a few things that Babar the ODI batsman can learn from Rohit the ODI batsman but some people are hell-bent on furthering their own biases.
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There is nothing to claim. Everybody saw how he tuk-tuked against Lankan second string trundlers when 35 year olds were scoring faster than him.:afridi1
 
Babar Azam lack's Rohit's ability to hit big sixes of pacers. He can only play the anchors role, the rest of the team has to play aggressively
 
Abdullah719 said:
And Chanderpaul's Test rating better than Tendulkar's....

If you read the thread post by post then you will see my post was in response to the 'experts' claiming that Babar is a pathetic batsman, a tuk-tuker, rubbish cricketer.

There are a few things that Babar the ODI batsman can learn from Rohit the ODI batsman but some people are hell-bent on furthering their own biases.
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Can you quote some posts calling Babar rubbish or pathetic? If anything, there are many posts calling Rohit a hack, even though Rohit is leagues above Babar right now.
 
Hitman said:
Not a fan of Rohit, but it's laughable to call a player with the highest ever ODI score a 'hack'. Imagine ia Pak batsman doing the same, what the reaction of their fans would be :)))
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It's because he's Indian. Had he been from another country he wouldn't be calling him a hack.
 
Sachin136 said:
Can you quote some posts calling Babar rubbish or pathetic? If anything, there are many posts calling Rohit a hack, even though Rohit is leagues above Babar right now.
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You can check [MENTION=145842]Dingolfy[/MENTION]'s posts earlier on the thread... "wouldn't make it to a List A team in India" and what not.

I am not sure why you're being so exacting here, did I say I agreed with the comment that Rohit is a hack? Already a bunch of (Pakistani) posters disagreed with that. Do I need to chime in to prove something?

Not too sure about Rohit being leagues above Babar but that's your prerogative.
 
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