He isn't an allformat batter like Travis head. Sucks in odi and t20. Shame shame shameAnyone who think Pant is heck in test cricket should not taken seriously
Reason : Coz Shaheen is not Indian, not coz his yorkers are better
but first part is more damaging lol
True!Shaheen is a Baby bowler infornt of Bumrah .
What's there to debate? One dominates the opponent, and the other is __________ his own country.
Yeah but it was 4 years ago, doubt anyone would talk now.Pakistani ex-players like to talk
Nobody is talking about bumrah action except some bitter Pak and Bangla fans. Even ex pak players who make 100 conspiracies don't talk about bumrah's actions
Did you read my post or have you tried to put an axe on your own foot???
its pathetic loser BD fans and nostalgic pak fans who bring that up. There is not a single respected player, admin, umpire or a past player who says anything about his action. It is just their way to cope
Does no harm to anyone else. All it does is affect their blood pressure level.
funny thing is, accomplished players from other countries know what it takes to win and react appropriately. Then we have this loser team whose achievements are an absolute nil acting like they are some kind of world beaters. On top of that we have their pathetic fans dancing, crying, holding beheaded heads, and supporting their arrogant players. They have to be cringiest fans in any sporting history.
I wish Jagmohan Dalmia didn't make a certain mistake that he did.
oh yeah. He was very smart but made this huge mistake. But remember he was also from Kolkata and he had a soft corner for Bangladesh. Moreover pushing BD and supporting them was India's agenda especially since we were trying to get more political skin in the BD. If India had backed other teams like Netherlands, Kenya, Zimbabwe and others as much as we did BD the world would have escaped from this torture.
Last 18 months or so , Arshdeep seems a more skilled white ball bowler than Shaheen .
Has Shaheen reached his peak yet? While you are it, has Babar reached his peak yet? Hope they baoth play for anther 10 years for Pak to make sure they find their peak.Let me use the logic which some of my fellow indians use for their favorite players like Pant, Pandya and Rahul.
1.) Shaheen is a 22 year old baby in International cricket.
2.) Shaheen is soon going to take 100 wickets in tests so you can imagine by the time he turns 34 he will have around 500-600 test wickets. Next Wasim Akram 2.0.
3.) Shaheen is yet to reach his peak whereas Bumrah has already maximized his peak.
For more info, read KL vs Babar, Pant threads or Haris vs Umran threads.
Hextro bro, you still around?
true.... Arshdeep is a very intelligent bowler
Than system, it is to do with the culture and mindset..every system expects their players to be well behaved and focus on their growth..However how their players are brought up decides the growth of the players..India, in its advantage is place of enormous cultural diversity supported with huge population..The only thing Indian cricket system has to do is to identify the right player who follows the rules and strict regime..whereas Pakistanis overall culture and the religious beliefs makes them more vulnerable to the pressure situations and tactical decisions..even in their prime, the great cricketers of Pakistan has achieved far less than India in terms of ICC tournaments..Also they fade so fastly due to lack of personal discipline..all the initial success easily reach to their heads compared to Indians and other teams that leads to their downfall..Many ex cricketers are more happy to criticize the young ones than to help them..one win against India can satisfy a Pakistani player for rest of his life.. so, unless the culture and mindset change, system won't be able to do anything..
He is hard working . Like most young players enjoying the riches from IPL , he too has not let '' good life '' come in way of sound work ethics .
Guessing you don't know much about knee issues. Its the planting knee, there is no fixing it. period. end of of story. thats all she wrote.
It does harm to themselves.
He is probably 30+ in real age...
When did this happen?
or be a coach employed by PCB
He doesn't look much younger than Shahid Afridi when you see them walking together.
Bumrah is a better limited over bowler than McGrath. In Test format, McGrath still ahead. I did not see Garner so can't comment, but from all accounts he was hard to hit as well. But limited overs were very new those days.
mcgrath won three odi wc back to back which bumrah can only dream of....... where is bumrah during WTC 2021, WTC 2023 where ashwin taking more wickets than him in overcast conditions...... where he was when head was bashing in 2023 final? performed in some mickey mouse t20s and suddenly become better than GOATS
LOL its not an Indian drama serial. SSA has been pathetic for too long now. And he is still good friends with the people you think betrayed him. Cause they are all the same.
Well said!
Neither Mcgrath won it nor Bumrah won it, it's their teams won it. Both contributed. When comparing players you see what they did and not what teams did.
Shaheen is at least 30. Even with that he should be at his peak. But looks pretty mediocre
He is not 30...look at his u19 photos he looked kid....
Now he is saying World cup is not win by mcgrath but whole team@Buffet is an Indian bootlicker like many South Africans are.
Anyone who thinks Bumrah is better than McGrath and Wasim is clearly new to cricket or is a paid shill.
Forget about Wasim and McGrath. Bumrah is not even among top 10 greatest bowlers. I can name at least 10 bowlers in cricket's history who were better than Bumrah.
Even bumrah himself say mcgrath is miles better than him..@Buffet is an Indian bootlicker like many South Africans are.
Anyone who thinks Bumrah is better than McGrath and Wasim is clearly new to cricket or is a paid shill.
Forget about Wasim and McGrath. Bumrah is not even among top 10 greatest bowlers. I can name at least 10 bowlers in cricket's history who were better than Bumrah.
Even shaheen and shami were beast in odi wcs..... stats don't matter.......
Name them and back it up with stats, or I will name you the liar you always are.OK. Good.
McGrath and Wasim are 2-3 levels above Bumrah.
As a matter of fact, I can name 10-20 bowlers who were better than Bumrah.
Shami > Mcgrath/Starc. HE just didn't have the support from batsmen.
Two new ball era vs one new ball era, T20 era vs before T20 era, Field restriction era vs pre field restriction era. BOwlers way too restricted than ever.
Bumrah has some way to go in test and not there yet to challenge McGrath. Being better is further away.
yup strictly ODI world cups. SHami did in this era.
This must be the dominant era.
Now say that without crying.Who cares about T20? It is a casual format.
A player's greatness is judged by his Test and ODI performances. Not T20.
Let's just say Bumrah is not anywhere close to McGrath. Only delusional Indians compare him to McGrath.
Bumrah’s versatility and intelligence make him a more multi‑dimensional LOI bowler than McGrath. He can bowl slow ball like Bravo at the death, hit Malinga‑style yorkers, swing it like Steyn when needed, or settle into a Test‑match length with relentless accuracy. He has out‑thought and out‑foxed many top batsmen, and he executes each skill at a high level. The only phase where McGrath may hold a slight edge is with the brand‑new ball. If you rate both bowlers on a 1–10 scale across all phases, Bumrah would narrowly edge him overall.
