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This is big newz, even the major papers here in Norway have this as Breaking newz.
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Can an Indian economic boycott hurt China?
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I think there are some valid points to banning Chinese apps esp with related to security considering our current situation, if you google tiktok security so many articles pop up, which probably is an issue for many American apps as well but considering the current situation.. it shouldn't be such a huge issue..
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So whoever opposes this idea in India is a Chinese or a China-supporter?
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Watch this. You guys will have a good laugh 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="hi" dir="ltr">इसको क्या हुआ..
<a href="https://t.co/7WCrvATxx9">pic.twitter.com/7WCrvATxx9</a></p>— Amit Mishra (@Amitjanhit) <a href="https://twitter.com/Amitjanhit/status/1277634243221389313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="hi" dir="ltr">इसको क्या हुआ..
<a href="https://t.co/7WCrvATxx9">pic.twitter.com/7WCrvATxx9</a></p>— Amit Mishra (@Amitjanhit) <a href="https://twitter.com/Amitjanhit/status/1277634243221389313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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If patriotism was in question One Plus wouldn't had sold out, Also everytime I google it shows me some One Plus phone launching :/ , apparently launching TV too
OnePlus is launching a new mid-range phone mainly because of how well these phones sell in countries like India. OnePlus Nord. In fact, I believe it is being released in India first.
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OnePlus is launching a new mid-range phone mainly because of how well these phones sell in countries like India. OnePlus Nord. In fact, I believe it is being released in India first.
Yeah that too but here is what I came to know:
https://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/oneplus-8-pro-sale-india-today-june-29-price-rs-54989-specifications-amazon-offer-2253327
One Jaipur guy created alternative for tik tok, after copying the source code as it is from a Pakistani developer.
So there you go...
Lol, what a clown!Watch this. You guys will have a good laugh
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="hi" dir="ltr">इसको क्या हुआ..
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We in Pakistan can only watch in awe as two superpowers take turns stepping up the escalation ladder in their 5th gen warfare. The Chinese captured strategic territory, and the Humsaaya Mulk responded by banning apps. The ball is in China’s court now. They should seriously consider never wishing Modi a Happy Birthday ever again.
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How can a boycott of Chinese products hurt China when India's economy is crumbling, while China is heading for new highs?
India's number one export is cheap labour. This is it. Throw more resources at a problem thinking the problam will be resolved faster.
And no, Indians who bailed and live outside of India do so because India doesn't offer the opportunites of a prosperous economy.
If your economy is doing so well, why bail?
India's number one export is cheap labour. This is it. Throw more resources at a problem thinking the problam will be resolved faster.
And no, Indians who bailed and live outside of India do so because India doesn't offer the opportunites of a prosperous economy.
If your economy is doing so well, why bail?
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China’s Hikvision dominates India’s surveillance market
Video surveillance company Hikvision, owned by the Chinese military as determined by the US, dominates India’s CCTV market.
It exists in India under the name Prama Hikvision Indian Private Limited and enjoys over 35 percent market share, The Print reported. Hikvision sells cameras and unmanned aerial vehicles allowing security agencies to monitor railway stations, roads.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hikvision systems are used by Indian Railways. From movement of troops to equipment to strategic forces, railways is integral for our defence. Kaise clear hua?</p>— Yusuf Unjhawala ���� (@YusufDFI) <a href="https://twitter.com/YusufDFI/status/1276135314084425728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
In 2018, Hikvision won a tender from the Indian government to install 1.5 lakh CCTV cameras in the Delhi. Also, it is listed as a vendor by Bharat Electronics (BEL). BEL works on highly sensitive and classified defence projects for India.
Last week, Trump administration determined that Chinese firms, including Huawei Technologies and Hikvision, are owned or controlled by the Chinese military. Last year, Washington placed Huawei and Hikvision on a trade blacklist over national security concerns.
Relations between India and China have been strained following the deaths of 20 Indian troops during a clash with Chinese soldiers along the disputed border in northern Ladakh.
On Monday India banned 59 Chinese mobile apps, which are engaged in activities... prejudicial to sovereignty and integrity of India, defence of India, security of state and public order', the ministry of information technology said in a statement.
https://www.brecorder.com/news/40002189/chinas-hikvision-dominates-indias-surveillance-market
Video surveillance company Hikvision, owned by the Chinese military as determined by the US, dominates India’s CCTV market.
It exists in India under the name Prama Hikvision Indian Private Limited and enjoys over 35 percent market share, The Print reported. Hikvision sells cameras and unmanned aerial vehicles allowing security agencies to monitor railway stations, roads.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hikvision systems are used by Indian Railways. From movement of troops to equipment to strategic forces, railways is integral for our defence. Kaise clear hua?</p>— Yusuf Unjhawala ���� (@YusufDFI) <a href="https://twitter.com/YusufDFI/status/1276135314084425728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
In 2018, Hikvision won a tender from the Indian government to install 1.5 lakh CCTV cameras in the Delhi. Also, it is listed as a vendor by Bharat Electronics (BEL). BEL works on highly sensitive and classified defence projects for India.
Last week, Trump administration determined that Chinese firms, including Huawei Technologies and Hikvision, are owned or controlled by the Chinese military. Last year, Washington placed Huawei and Hikvision on a trade blacklist over national security concerns.
Relations between India and China have been strained following the deaths of 20 Indian troops during a clash with Chinese soldiers along the disputed border in northern Ladakh.
On Monday India banned 59 Chinese mobile apps, which are engaged in activities... prejudicial to sovereignty and integrity of India, defence of India, security of state and public order', the ministry of information technology said in a statement.
https://www.brecorder.com/news/40002189/chinas-hikvision-dominates-indias-surveillance-market
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Prime Minister Narendra Modi has deleted his posts on Weibo, China’s Twitter-like account after India decided to ban 59 mobile applications linked to China. New Delhi had initially tried to delete PM Modi’s account but it turned out that the Chinese social media platform had a “complex procedure” for VIP accounts, people familiar with the development said.
The government has initiated the process for deletion of the account. “For reasons best known to the Chinese, there was great delay in granting this basic permission,” a government functionary said.
As an interim measure, the Prime Minister’s Office decided to remove its posts from the platform. PM Modi made his debut on the Chinese social media in 2015.
“PM Modi had 115 posts on Weibo. It was decided to manually delete them and after much effort, 113 posts were removed,” news agency ANI added, quoting sources.
The government had on Monday ordered the ban on the 59 mobile apps after an assessment that “they are engaged in activities which is prejudicial to sovereignty and integrity of India, defence of India, the security of the state and public order”.
The move, which many analysts say, could become the template for other countries to act against Chinese companies, have angered Beijing. In a statement last evening, China claimed that the ban selectively and discriminatorily targets Chinese apps on ambiguous and far-fetched grounds and abuses national security exceptions.
Back home, China has for years banned internet websites that it felt could hurt its national security. Beijing does not allow its nationals to access sites such as Twitter, Facebook and YouTube.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...-isn-t-easy/story-rL3DYMNPd88Ez5BlYXznRO.html
The government has initiated the process for deletion of the account. “For reasons best known to the Chinese, there was great delay in granting this basic permission,” a government functionary said.
As an interim measure, the Prime Minister’s Office decided to remove its posts from the platform. PM Modi made his debut on the Chinese social media in 2015.
“PM Modi had 115 posts on Weibo. It was decided to manually delete them and after much effort, 113 posts were removed,” news agency ANI added, quoting sources.
The government had on Monday ordered the ban on the 59 mobile apps after an assessment that “they are engaged in activities which is prejudicial to sovereignty and integrity of India, defence of India, the security of the state and public order”.
The move, which many analysts say, could become the template for other countries to act against Chinese companies, have angered Beijing. In a statement last evening, China claimed that the ban selectively and discriminatorily targets Chinese apps on ambiguous and far-fetched grounds and abuses national security exceptions.
Back home, China has for years banned internet websites that it felt could hurt its national security. Beijing does not allow its nationals to access sites such as Twitter, Facebook and YouTube.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...-isn-t-easy/story-rL3DYMNPd88Ez5BlYXznRO.html
Pretty much all of home security cameras in the US are rebranded HIKVision.
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A bidding process already underway for an Indian government contract will not be scrapped merely because of a Chinese firm’s participation, two government officials said on Sunday, adding that this is being done to avoid unnecessary delays in the execution of key projects.
On Thursday, the Centre said that companies from nations that share a border with India will be barred from bidding for government contracts for goods and services until they register with the industry department. It said the decision was taken to “strengthen the defence of India and national security”; the move is being seen as an effort to counter China amid a tense border stand-off with the neighbouring nation.
The order, which did not name any country, is applicable for all prospective tenders, and also for the tenders that have already been invited but not yet awarded.
The two government officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said an ongoing tender process will be scrapped only if one of the technically qualified bidders is a Chinese firm and it is also the lowest bidder.
Tender evaluations often have two parts -- technical qualification and price bid. A company emerges as a shortlisted bidder only after it meets all technical qualifications. After that, price quotes of all shortlisted bidders are evaluated and the lowest price bidder gets the contract, the first official said.
An order clarifying the move has already been circulated to all ministries, public sector units and state governments asking them not to scrap earlier tenders and initiate fresh tendering processes only because of the presence of a Chinese entity as one of the qualified bidders, the officials said.
“In other words, the tender should not be scrapped if it is unlikely to be awarded to a Chinese company,” the first official added.
The clarification was issued by the Union finance ministry on Friday after stakeholders raised concerns that retrospective implementation of the July 23 order would lead to scrapping of all tenders, resulting in a huge loss of valuable time, the second official said.
There was some confusion related to a clause of the July 23 order about ongoing tenders, he said. The clause of the Thursday order read, “If the qualified bidders include bidders from such countries [read China], the entire process shall be scrapped and initiated de novo. The de novo process shall adhere to the conditions prescribed in this order.”
The clarification issued on July 24 said “qualified bidder means only those bidders who would otherwise have been qualified for award of the tender after considering all factors including price”.
“If bidders from such countries would not have qualified for award for reasons unconnected with the said order (for example they do not meet tender criteria or their price bid is higher... or any other reason) then there is no need to scrap the tender/start the process de novo.”
India shares land borders with China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal and Bhutan. But the July 23 order exempts some of these countries to which India extends lines of credit or provides development assistance. The Thursday order takes into its ambit all public sector companies, autonomous bodies and public-private partnership (PPP) projects receiving financial support from the government. State governments and their undertakings have also been directed to follow suit.
India and China have been locked in a months-long border stand-off, which resulted in a deadly clash last month that left 20 Indian soldiers dead. The two sides have lately failed to make a breakthrough in reducing the tensions despite intense negotiations at the military and diplomatic levels, and a disengagement process at some friction points has remained sluggish.
CA Vijay Kumar Gupta, former Central Council Member of the Institute of Chartered Accountants of India (ICAI) said: “The clarification has removed uncertainty about ongoing tenders. This will save significant time and prevent time and cost overrun.”
https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...-not-be-hit/story-DpJ4BBrFyOpHFkOaaKPrXN.html
On Thursday, the Centre said that companies from nations that share a border with India will be barred from bidding for government contracts for goods and services until they register with the industry department. It said the decision was taken to “strengthen the defence of India and national security”; the move is being seen as an effort to counter China amid a tense border stand-off with the neighbouring nation.
The order, which did not name any country, is applicable for all prospective tenders, and also for the tenders that have already been invited but not yet awarded.
The two government officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said an ongoing tender process will be scrapped only if one of the technically qualified bidders is a Chinese firm and it is also the lowest bidder.
Tender evaluations often have two parts -- technical qualification and price bid. A company emerges as a shortlisted bidder only after it meets all technical qualifications. After that, price quotes of all shortlisted bidders are evaluated and the lowest price bidder gets the contract, the first official said.
An order clarifying the move has already been circulated to all ministries, public sector units and state governments asking them not to scrap earlier tenders and initiate fresh tendering processes only because of the presence of a Chinese entity as one of the qualified bidders, the officials said.
“In other words, the tender should not be scrapped if it is unlikely to be awarded to a Chinese company,” the first official added.
The clarification was issued by the Union finance ministry on Friday after stakeholders raised concerns that retrospective implementation of the July 23 order would lead to scrapping of all tenders, resulting in a huge loss of valuable time, the second official said.
There was some confusion related to a clause of the July 23 order about ongoing tenders, he said. The clause of the Thursday order read, “If the qualified bidders include bidders from such countries [read China], the entire process shall be scrapped and initiated de novo. The de novo process shall adhere to the conditions prescribed in this order.”
The clarification issued on July 24 said “qualified bidder means only those bidders who would otherwise have been qualified for award of the tender after considering all factors including price”.
“If bidders from such countries would not have qualified for award for reasons unconnected with the said order (for example they do not meet tender criteria or their price bid is higher... or any other reason) then there is no need to scrap the tender/start the process de novo.”
India shares land borders with China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal and Bhutan. But the July 23 order exempts some of these countries to which India extends lines of credit or provides development assistance. The Thursday order takes into its ambit all public sector companies, autonomous bodies and public-private partnership (PPP) projects receiving financial support from the government. State governments and their undertakings have also been directed to follow suit.
India and China have been locked in a months-long border stand-off, which resulted in a deadly clash last month that left 20 Indian soldiers dead. The two sides have lately failed to make a breakthrough in reducing the tensions despite intense negotiations at the military and diplomatic levels, and a disengagement process at some friction points has remained sluggish.
CA Vijay Kumar Gupta, former Central Council Member of the Institute of Chartered Accountants of India (ICAI) said: “The clarification has removed uncertainty about ongoing tenders. This will save significant time and prevent time and cost overrun.”
https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...-not-be-hit/story-DpJ4BBrFyOpHFkOaaKPrXN.html
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Huawei slashes India's revenue target by up to 50% as ties with Delhi deteriorate
Amid calls to boycott Chinese goods in Asia’s third-largest economy, Chinese telecom company Huawei Technologies has slashed its India revenue target for 2020 by up to 50% and is axing off more than half of its staff in the country, the Economic Times reported on Monday.
Huawei is now targeting $350-$500 million in revenue for 2020, compared with roughly $700-800 million it was aiming earlier, the newspaper reported.
Huawei is cutting 60-70% of its Indian staff, excluding those in research and development and the global service centre, the newspaper said, citing people aware of the matter.
The report comes amid a rise in anti-China sentiment in India following the killing of 20 Indian soldiers in a Himalayan border dispute last month.
India has also told two state-run telecoms firms to use locally-made rather than Chinese telecom equipment to upgrade their mobile networks to 4G.
Huawei did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the report.
https://www.geo.tv/latest/299976-hu...et-by-up-to-50-as-ties-with-delhi-deteriorate
Amid calls to boycott Chinese goods in Asia’s third-largest economy, Chinese telecom company Huawei Technologies has slashed its India revenue target for 2020 by up to 50% and is axing off more than half of its staff in the country, the Economic Times reported on Monday.
Huawei is now targeting $350-$500 million in revenue for 2020, compared with roughly $700-800 million it was aiming earlier, the newspaper reported.
Huawei is cutting 60-70% of its Indian staff, excluding those in research and development and the global service centre, the newspaper said, citing people aware of the matter.
The report comes amid a rise in anti-China sentiment in India following the killing of 20 Indian soldiers in a Himalayan border dispute last month.
India has also told two state-run telecoms firms to use locally-made rather than Chinese telecom equipment to upgrade their mobile networks to 4G.
Huawei did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the report.
https://www.geo.tv/latest/299976-hu...et-by-up-to-50-as-ties-with-delhi-deteriorate
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Here is China export list,
United States: US$418.6 billion (16.8% of China’s total exports)
Hong Kong: $279.6 billion (11.2%)
Japan: $143.2 billion (5.7%)
South Korea: $111 billion (4.4%)
Vietnam: $98 billion (3.9%)
Germany: $79.7 billion (3.2%)
India: $74.9 billion (3%)
India constitutes only 3% of China export. Sure, any boycott will have some impact, but it will be a low impact even if you take out entire 3%. In reality, 3% won't ever go down to zero. It may simply grow at slower pace, that's about it.
US has 15-16%, but despite all the talk, it's not going to go down too much. Even shifting for some portion will take out only 15-20% of total in near term.
United States: US$418.6 billion (16.8% of China’s total exports)
Hong Kong: $279.6 billion (11.2%)
Japan: $143.2 billion (5.7%)
South Korea: $111 billion (4.4%)
Vietnam: $98 billion (3.9%)
Germany: $79.7 billion (3.2%)
India: $74.9 billion (3%)
India constitutes only 3% of China export. Sure, any boycott will have some impact, but it will be a low impact even if you take out entire 3%. In reality, 3% won't ever go down to zero. It may simply grow at slower pace, that's about it.
US has 15-16%, but despite all the talk, it's not going to go down too much. Even shifting for some portion will take out only 15-20% of total in near term.
All this is for consumption of the gullible bhakts who had to be placated after cowardly conceding Indian territory to PLA by powers that be. Everyone knows banning those apps won't bother that behemoth in the slightest.
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thats a lot of jobs lost for a country which was struggling with its worst unemployment even pre-corona
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It's on a downward spiral irrespective across, laid of many in China as well in 2019, if it doesn't bounce back it would be considered a pariah at this rate.
https://technode.com/2019/09/09/huawei-cuts-jobs-in-china-as-the-us-sanctions-bite/
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have a question, as india is a superpower in the tech industry can a indian explain to me why is your infrastructure so poor, from 3g,4g speeds, broadband, and even your own mobile phones.
Doesn't it annoy you that you have the best software developers but yet thr isnt a indian company which gives you a rival in terms of specs to the chinese / koreans/ americans - as most parts like camera's / screens are bought from samsung / sony.
i understand the Chinese phones are cheaper due to manufacturer - but look at Micromax - mans a billionaire yet all the phones are really cheap and he doesn't have a contender for a flagship or even a medium spec phone
Doesn't it annoy you that you have the best software developers but yet thr isnt a indian company which gives you a rival in terms of specs to the chinese / koreans/ americans - as most parts like camera's / screens are bought from samsung / sony.
i understand the Chinese phones are cheaper due to manufacturer - but look at Micromax - mans a billionaire yet all the phones are really cheap and he doesn't have a contender for a flagship or even a medium spec phone
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So the boycott China and Chinese goods, throw away your tvs etc, stop apps that are popular, was for the common man only. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/slowclap?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#slowclap</a> <a href="https://t.co/jwIAu7zX7H">https://t.co/jwIAu7zX7H</a></p>— Gargi Rawat (@GargiRawat) <a href="https://twitter.com/GargiRawat/status/1289966038373695488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chinese Ambassador says Huawei has not yet been taken out of India's 5G trials, says Huawei is ready to<br>enter into a “no-back-door” agreement with India, and calls for India to "make an independent, fair and right judgment" on the issue. <a href="https://t.co/y93bhp74zm">https://t.co/y93bhp74zm</a></p>— Suhasini Haidar (@suhasinih) <a href="https://twitter.com/suhasinih/status/1299354515221536768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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What software developer has got to do with infrastructure?
Just because you are a good driver doesn't mean you can build car also!
Sorry Sun Weidong. The Huawei in India ship sailed from Galwan on June 15th. Too late to make nice, better luck next time.
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If we don’t go for Huawei, we should make an agreement on no backdoor entry with Qualcomm and ask for US senate guarantee, that’s actually a good idea from the Chinese ambassador.
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Strong decisions are taken by people and nations of strong conscience. This is a country which does not want to talk about how to battle Covid19 and has devoted all its efforts in a celebrity's death case.
Even if Qualcomm doesn't give a backdoor guarantee we don't care if the US spies on us. The US is not a hostile country. They didn't kill our soldiers. The US is actually India's friend, and a partner in defending India from Chinese aggression.
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Relationships change all the time till 1993 US was pro Pakistan, they can change in 25 years so no thanks.
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lol
Equipment supplied by Qualcomm won't last forever either. Currently the interests of the two largest democracies in the world are aligned. In the present climate, the choice is between Chinese hardware and US hardware should be obvious.
Worrying about US spying (which no doubt occurs) is a waste of time. The US is not killing Indian soldiers or trying to take Indian land. The US actually runs a trade deficit of around $50 billion with India, which enables India to pay for big ticket imports like oil.
While the dynamics between nation states keep on changing based on self interest, US - India relationship and US Pakistan relationship has been very different.
The US Pakistan relationship has been purely transactional at a political level. It did not have strong business ties or a strong cultural ties due to resident expatriate community. While we can't be gullible thinking that US- India ties are a friendship, infact far from it ; however the business ties are too strong to vanish over night. Add to this a very strong expat community who have now started rising in the political and business sectors of that country, US - India dynamics are very different when compared to most nations. The connect is not just limited to political class, but there is people to people connect at a broader level because of multinational companies starting from services to products having strong presence in both the nation's.
Friends, allies, partners, use whatever word you want. The point is that the US and India have important shared common interests and as you point out business ties.
US attitudes of course depend upon the party in power. Trump will be much more of a friend/ally/partner of India than Biden.
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India seeks to restrict Chinese smartphone makers from selling devices cheaper than 12,000 rupees ($150) to kickstart its faltering domestic industry, dealing a blow to brands including Xiaomi Corp.
The move is aimed at pushing Chinese giants out of the lower segment of the world’s second-biggest mobile market, according to people familiar with the matter. It coincides with mounting concern about high-volume brands like Realme and Transsion undercutting local manufacturers, they said, asking not to be identified discussing a sensitive matter.
Exclusion from India’s entry-level market would hurt Xiaomi and its peers, which in recent years have increasingly relied on India to drive growth while their home market endures a series of Covid-19 lockdowns that crippled consumption. Smartphones under $150 contributed to a third of India’s sales volume for the quarter through June 2022, with Chinese companies accounting for up to 80% of those shipments, according to market tracker Counterpoint.
Xiaomi’s shares extended losses in the final minutes of trading in Hong Kong on Monday. It slid 3.6%, extending their decline this year to more than 35%. It’s unclear whether Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government will announce any policies or use informal channels to convey its preference to Chinese companies, the people said.
New Delhi has already subjected Chinese firms operating in the country, such as Xiaomi and rivals Oppo and Vivo, to close scrutiny of their finances, which has led to tax demands and money laundering allegations. The government has previously employed unofficial means to ban Huawei Technologies Co. and ZTE Corp. telecom equipment. While there’s no official policy prohibiting Chinese networking gear, wireless carriers are encouraged to purchase alternatives.
The move shouldn’t affect Apple Inc. or Samsung Electronics Co., which price their phones higher. Representatives from Xiaomi, Realme and Transsion didn’t respond to requests for comment. Spokespeople from India’s technology ministry also didn’t respond to Bloomberg News inquiries.
India amped up pressure on Chinese firms in the summer of 2020 after more than a dozen Indian soldiers died following a clash between the two nuclear-armed neighbors on a disputed Himalayan border. It has since banned more than 300 apps, including Tencent Holdings Ltd.’s WeChat and ByteDance Ltd.’s TikTok, as relations between the two countries fray.
Homegrown companies such as Lava and MicroMax comprised just under half of India’s smartphone sales before new entrants from the neighboring country disrupted the market with cheap and feature-rich devices.
Chinese smartphone players now sell the vast majority of devices in India, but their market dominance has not been “on the basis of free and fair competition,” India’s junior tech minister told the Business Standard newspaper last week. Recurring annual losses posted by most Chinese handset makers in India, despite their leading position, add to criticism of unfair competition.
In private, the government continues to ask Chinese executives to build local supply chains, distribution networks and export from India, suggesting New Delhi still very much wants their investment, the people said.
SOURCE: BLOOMBERG
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The move is aimed at pushing Chinese giants out of the lower segment of the world’s second-biggest mobile market, according to people familiar with the matter. It coincides with mounting concern about high-volume brands like Realme and Transsion undercutting local manufacturers, they said, asking not to be identified discussing a sensitive matter.
Exclusion from India’s entry-level market would hurt Xiaomi and its peers, which in recent years have increasingly relied on India to drive growth while their home market endures a series of Covid-19 lockdowns that crippled consumption. Smartphones under $150 contributed to a third of India’s sales volume for the quarter through June 2022, with Chinese companies accounting for up to 80% of those shipments, according to market tracker Counterpoint.
Xiaomi’s shares extended losses in the final minutes of trading in Hong Kong on Monday. It slid 3.6%, extending their decline this year to more than 35%. It’s unclear whether Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government will announce any policies or use informal channels to convey its preference to Chinese companies, the people said.
New Delhi has already subjected Chinese firms operating in the country, such as Xiaomi and rivals Oppo and Vivo, to close scrutiny of their finances, which has led to tax demands and money laundering allegations. The government has previously employed unofficial means to ban Huawei Technologies Co. and ZTE Corp. telecom equipment. While there’s no official policy prohibiting Chinese networking gear, wireless carriers are encouraged to purchase alternatives.
The move shouldn’t affect Apple Inc. or Samsung Electronics Co., which price their phones higher. Representatives from Xiaomi, Realme and Transsion didn’t respond to requests for comment. Spokespeople from India’s technology ministry also didn’t respond to Bloomberg News inquiries.
India amped up pressure on Chinese firms in the summer of 2020 after more than a dozen Indian soldiers died following a clash between the two nuclear-armed neighbors on a disputed Himalayan border. It has since banned more than 300 apps, including Tencent Holdings Ltd.’s WeChat and ByteDance Ltd.’s TikTok, as relations between the two countries fray.
Homegrown companies such as Lava and MicroMax comprised just under half of India’s smartphone sales before new entrants from the neighboring country disrupted the market with cheap and feature-rich devices.
Chinese smartphone players now sell the vast majority of devices in India, but their market dominance has not been “on the basis of free and fair competition,” India’s junior tech minister told the Business Standard newspaper last week. Recurring annual losses posted by most Chinese handset makers in India, despite their leading position, add to criticism of unfair competition.
In private, the government continues to ask Chinese executives to build local supply chains, distribution networks and export from India, suggesting New Delhi still very much wants their investment, the people said.
SOURCE: BLOOMBERG
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2...rict-sale-of-chinese-cheap-smartphones-report
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China to provide consular assistance to Vivo employees arrested in India
China will provide consular protection and assistance to two Chinese employees of smartphone maker Vivo arrested by Indian authorities and urges India not to discriminate against Chinese companies, a foreign ministry spokesperson said on Monday.
"We are closely following what you mentioned. The Chinese government firmly supports Chinese companies to safeguard their lawful rights and interests," Mao Ning told a regular press conference.
India's financial crime-fighting agency last week arrested two senior employees of Vivo's India unit, a move the company vowed to challenge legally.
The two were brought to a Delhi court on Saturday and sent to the Enforcement Directorate's custody, a person directly involved with the case told Reuters.
The Vivo employees, whose identity Reuters could not confirm, will appear in court on Tuesday, said the source, who asked not to be named as they were not authorized to speak to the media.
The arrests came two months after the Enforcement Directorate arrested four industry executives, including a Chinese national, working for Vivo's Indian unit in a case of alleged money laundering, charges the firm has denied.
Source: Reuters
China will provide consular protection and assistance to two Chinese employees of smartphone maker Vivo arrested by Indian authorities and urges India not to discriminate against Chinese companies, a foreign ministry spokesperson said on Monday.
"We are closely following what you mentioned. The Chinese government firmly supports Chinese companies to safeguard their lawful rights and interests," Mao Ning told a regular press conference.
India's financial crime-fighting agency last week arrested two senior employees of Vivo's India unit, a move the company vowed to challenge legally.
The two were brought to a Delhi court on Saturday and sent to the Enforcement Directorate's custody, a person directly involved with the case told Reuters.
The Vivo employees, whose identity Reuters could not confirm, will appear in court on Tuesday, said the source, who asked not to be named as they were not authorized to speak to the media.
The arrests came two months after the Enforcement Directorate arrested four industry executives, including a Chinese national, working for Vivo's Indian unit in a case of alleged money laundering, charges the firm has denied.
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India's Enforcement Directorate, the country's financial crime-fighting agency, reportedly conducted probes across 19 locations against what it described as "potential violations of the Prevention of Money Laundering Act" by Chinese-owned companies, reported India Today, in another unscrupulous move targeting Chinese companies.
India's heightened scrutiny of Chinese companies, fueled by purely political motives, is tarnishing the country's image and transforming it into what resembles more of a "graveyard for foreign companies," Chinese experts warned.
The Enforcement Directorate alleged that the corresponding Chinese-owned fintech companies, collaborating with local non-banking financial companies and payment gateways, engaged in unethical lending practices, India Today reported on Tuesday.
The agency seized 13 million rupees ($1.6 million) in cash and several incriminating documents, the report said.
Indian authorities, exercising their right to investigate companies within the country, have increasingly concentrated on Chinese businesses, especially in the past three years, where major companies like Chinese smartphone makers Xiaomi and Vivo have frequently become targets, leading observers to believe in the existence of strong political motives behind these actions, Chinese experts said.
The latest move is only making the country less favorable for international investors, especially those from China, that have played an important role in creating jobs, paying taxes and contributing to the industry chain's development, Qian Feng, director of the research department at the National Strategy Institute at Tsinghua University, told the Global Times on Wednesday.
India's discriminatory sanctions targeting Chinese companies and their employees include routine financial and tax audits, fines and abrupt spikes in import tariffs, while disregarding these companies' contributions to the local economy, an India-based industry veteran told the Global Times in a recent interview.
The probe came just about a week after the same government department arrested three senior employees working for Vivo's India unit under the provisions of the Prevention of Money Laundering Act in late December.
On December 30, only a few days after the arrest, an Indian trial court ordered the immediate release of the three arrested.
"The phenomenon of politicizing judicial tools in India is already evident," Qian said, noting that it will have a significant impact on India's touted investment environment, and also affect bilateral economic and trade relations.
Since the border conflict between China and India in June 2020, there has been a noticeable escalation in Indian authorities' hostility toward Chinese companies, including the prohibition of more than 200 Chinese apps, initiating investigations related to taxation and anti-money laundering concerning Chinese businesses, and intensifying the examination of Chinese investments.
If India continues down this path, it will only add another negative aspect to its reputation as a "foreign enterprise graveyard," Qian noted.
Source: Global Times
India's heightened scrutiny of Chinese companies, fueled by purely political motives, is tarnishing the country's image and transforming it into what resembles more of a "graveyard for foreign companies," Chinese experts warned.
The Enforcement Directorate alleged that the corresponding Chinese-owned fintech companies, collaborating with local non-banking financial companies and payment gateways, engaged in unethical lending practices, India Today reported on Tuesday.
The agency seized 13 million rupees ($1.6 million) in cash and several incriminating documents, the report said.
Indian authorities, exercising their right to investigate companies within the country, have increasingly concentrated on Chinese businesses, especially in the past three years, where major companies like Chinese smartphone makers Xiaomi and Vivo have frequently become targets, leading observers to believe in the existence of strong political motives behind these actions, Chinese experts said.
The latest move is only making the country less favorable for international investors, especially those from China, that have played an important role in creating jobs, paying taxes and contributing to the industry chain's development, Qian Feng, director of the research department at the National Strategy Institute at Tsinghua University, told the Global Times on Wednesday.
India's discriminatory sanctions targeting Chinese companies and their employees include routine financial and tax audits, fines and abrupt spikes in import tariffs, while disregarding these companies' contributions to the local economy, an India-based industry veteran told the Global Times in a recent interview.
The probe came just about a week after the same government department arrested three senior employees working for Vivo's India unit under the provisions of the Prevention of Money Laundering Act in late December.
On December 30, only a few days after the arrest, an Indian trial court ordered the immediate release of the three arrested.
"The phenomenon of politicizing judicial tools in India is already evident," Qian said, noting that it will have a significant impact on India's touted investment environment, and also affect bilateral economic and trade relations.
Since the border conflict between China and India in June 2020, there has been a noticeable escalation in Indian authorities' hostility toward Chinese companies, including the prohibition of more than 200 Chinese apps, initiating investigations related to taxation and anti-money laundering concerning Chinese businesses, and intensifying the examination of Chinese investments.
If India continues down this path, it will only add another negative aspect to its reputation as a "foreign enterprise graveyard," Qian noted.
Source: Global Times
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China is a big giant that has already stabilized itself in the international market, so I don't think just because of the Indian boycott China will be bothered.
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Pigeon suspected of being Chinese spy released by police in India after being detained for eight months
A pigeon accused of being a Chinese spy has been cleared by police and released back into the wild.
The bird was detained by officers after it was captured in May last year near a port in Mumbai, news agency Press Trust of India reported.
It was found with two rings tied to its legs featuring words that appeared to be Chinese.
Detectives suspected the pigeon was involved in espionage and took it in, before later sending it to Mumbai's Bai Sakarbai Dinshaw Petit Hospital for Animals.
However, after eight months in captivity, it emerged that the creature was an open-water racing bird from Taiwan which had escaped and flown to India.
Police then approved the bird's transfer to the Bombay Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, where doctors set free the falsely accused avian on Tuesday.
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A pigeon accused of being a Chinese spy has been cleared by police and released back into the wild.
The bird was detained by officers after it was captured in May last year near a port in Mumbai, news agency Press Trust of India reported.
It was found with two rings tied to its legs featuring words that appeared to be Chinese.
Detectives suspected the pigeon was involved in espionage and took it in, before later sending it to Mumbai's Bai Sakarbai Dinshaw Petit Hospital for Animals.
However, after eight months in captivity, it emerged that the creature was an open-water racing bird from Taiwan which had escaped and flown to India.
Police then approved the bird's transfer to the Bombay Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, where doctors set free the falsely accused avian on Tuesday.
Pigeon suspected of being Chinese spy released by police in India after being detained for eight months
Detectives suspected the bird was involved in espionage after it was captured near a port in Mumbai. It was found with two rings tied to its legs featuring words that appeared to be Chinese.
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india should not have released this terrorist pigeon as he may violate the indian airspace again.Pigeon suspected of being Chinese spy released by police in India after being detained for eight months
A pigeon accused of being a Chinese spy has been cleared by police and released back into the wild.
The bird was detained by officers after it was captured in May last year near a port in Mumbai, news agency Press Trust of India reported.
It was found with two rings tied to its legs featuring words that appeared to be Chinese.
Detectives suspected the pigeon was involved in espionage and took it in, before later sending it to Mumbai's Bai Sakarbai Dinshaw Petit Hospital for Animals.
However, after eight months in captivity, it emerged that the creature was an open-water racing bird from Taiwan which had escaped and flown to India.
Police then approved the bird's transfer to the Bombay Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, where doctors set free the falsely accused avian on Tuesday.
Pigeon suspected of being Chinese spy released by police in India after being detained for eight months
Detectives suspected the bird was involved in espionage after it was captured near a port in Mumbai. It was found with two rings tied to its legs featuring words that appeared to be Chinese.
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Why did it take 8 months of investigation to release the poor guy?Pigeon suspected of being Chinese spy released by police in India after being detained for eight months
A pigeon accused of being a Chinese spy has been cleared by police and released back into the wild.
The bird was detained by officers after it was captured in May last year near a port in Mumbai, news agency Press Trust of India reported.
It was found with two rings tied to its legs featuring words that appeared to be Chinese.
Detectives suspected the pigeon was involved in espionage and took it in, before later sending it to Mumbai's Bai Sakarbai Dinshaw Petit Hospital for Animals.
However, after eight months in captivity, it emerged that the creature was an open-water racing bird from Taiwan which had escaped and flown to India.
Police then approved the bird's transfer to the Bombay Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, where doctors set free the falsely accused avian on Tuesday.
Pigeon suspected of being Chinese spy released by police in India after being detained for eight months
Detectives suspected the bird was involved in espionage after it was captured near a port in Mumbai. It was found with two rings tied to its legs featuring words that appeared to be Chinese.
I read a while ago that these guys have a couple of Pakistani pigeons as well. Perhaps we can capture some Indian pigeons that cross the border and eventually arrange a prisoner exchange, a pigeon for a pigeon...
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Pigeon was not accepting that he is a terrorist and manufactured in Pakistan
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Terrorist pigeons... That would make for a dope movie.Pigeon was not accepting that he is a terrorist and manufactured in Pakistan
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