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Can Asif Ali be a better Pakistan's T20I captain than Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan?

He was scared to face wood. It was embarrassing to see backing away and hoping he doesn’t follow him. There is a reason why no management has ever had any faith in him and then he turns around complaining why he’s treated as a 4 over batsmen.
 
Asif is not captaincy material but I agree that Babar should be replaced as captain if we don't make the semis.

The captain after him should be Rizwan.
 
He only knows how to play one way and haven't seen him adapt his approach to any in game scenarios. Don't think he'll be an effective captain as he probably won't be able to adapt to what's required. A must in our T20 team and he shouldn't be tinkered with as he knows his current role really well.

Besides we have lots of other candidates for captain if needed - Rizwan, Shadab and Shaheen.
 
Bewal Express said:
It has to be the worst thread on here for a long time
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If you think madness can't be topped by suggesting Asif Ali as captain, the OP goes and tops it himself in the same post by saying that Asif Ali didn't do too bad when he was appointed captain by Islamabad United. Asif Ali has a 100% losing record as captain in his franchise career. Lol.
 
I can see my suggestion of appointing Asif Ali as the captain has offended plenty of our 80s brand fans of T20 cricket on this forum.

Asif Ali will roar back and casually win Pakistan another game.

He has played 2 matches, and Pakistan have won both.

He is a vital member of this team
 
Asif is barely holding his place in the side.

Any fool can come in and slog.

Granted, he has been reasonably successful at it but if we have him in the team, it seems he should play one or two overs. He doesn't seem capable of building an innings of any substance.

I would love to be proven wrong.
 
Rana said:
I can see my suggestion of appointing Asif Ali as the captain has offended plenty of our 80s brand fans of T20 cricket on this forum.

Asif Ali will roar back and casually win Pakistan another game.

He has played 2 matches, and Pakistan have won both.

He is a vital member of this team
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Your stupidity (I am sorry for the word) in this thread is making it look like people are bashing/hating Asif.

Asif is a brilliant guy and he has a role in the team, and that is coming in with a couple of overs remaining. That is his job.

He is not captain material, he knows only one way to play and that is not going to help the team if he comes in 12th over.

So please stop with this nonesense.
 
Send hasan ali to bat for last 8-10 balls, he will also do the same job what asif is expected to.
Pakistan is actually wasting a spot with him.
 
shariqnoor said:
If you think madness can't be topped by suggesting Asif Ali as captain, the OP goes and tops it himself in the same post by saying that Asif Ali didn't do too bad when he was appointed captain by Islamabad United. Asif Ali has a 100% losing record as captain in his franchise career. Lol.
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It's sad that some people have such little understanding of cricket and aren't afraid to show case their ignorance
 
Rana said:
Any day in T20 over Babar Azam and Rizwan!
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And you are the guy who screams you say things for the sake of Pakistan??

Sorry but I have been on this forum for a couple days now and till now all your posts have been, either hating Rizwan or saying stuff which doesnt make sense and just provocate people.

You like power hitters, look at England then, all powerhitters and they can’t even chase 168 and 145 against b string bowlers of Pakistan.

Maybe if you want to watch sixes and all, you better be watching tapeball cricket on geo super.
 
He needs captaincy to perform. He performs well under pressure which he will get due to captaincy.
 
What a thread. Looks stupider each time you look at it.
 
Xoib said:
Rana is the worst analyst of this forum
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He is avoiding Asif Ali threads as of now, just waiting for a 16 balls 40 from Asif and he will be all over the threads.

Asif is not captain material. He needs to focus on his batting only. And if he does not improve he will be out of the team.

We need a matchwinner like Matthew Wade down there, he is the guy who wins matches for his team. We haven't a single player who is even half as good as him at the moment.
 
Brainless hack will be a complete disaster in Australia. He’s got bounced out by Bangladesh lol. He’s an embarrassingly poor batsmen.
 
Only 2 sixes in the series against England that just finished...

Can't wait for the 2 sixes in this tri-series... Bet they are gonna be epic!
 
There are many contrarian hills that cricket fans can choose to die on.
Being an Asif Ali captaincy backer must surely rank among the worst of these.
 
He is barely hanging on to his place in the Pakistan T20I team.

Captaincy is probably the last thing on his mind at the moment.
 
Rana said:
Please don’t shoot me down.

I think it’s the only way this guy will secure a position in the team and the only way he can best utilise himself!

He is a selfless player and plays 100% for Pakistan’s win. He wasn’t too bad when he was appointed captain by IU as well.

Let’s move on from uninspiring Babar Azam and Rizwan after the World Cup!
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Yes, Asif Ali will make a great captain as long as he is the team as the 12th man. An extra running the team will be quite the innovation.
 
Beware the day when Asif Ali with his 1% probability scores some runs at 200 SR. The OP will swarm this website like an ant to a sweet. As they say even a broken clock is right twice a day.
 
Asif Ali is such a good all-around player. Can ball, bat, wicket-keep, and captain all in the same match.

He has the potential to be Pakistan's GOAT T20 player and captain.
 
What a shameful display by Asif Ali as a wicket keeper today. Takes no pride whatsoever in whatever he does. Wicketkeeping is one facet of the game which you can practice and even with less skill and talent do a decent job.

Drop this leech forever!!!!
 
He needs to adjust to these pitches quick and Pak can afford to carry him despite these performances. Is there an alternative? I don’t know.
 
T20 captain on what basis?

Leadership skills? Performances? Or something else?
 
shaz619 said:
He needs to adjust to these pitches quick and Pak can afford to carry him despite these performances. Is there an alternative? I don’t know.
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Pakistan can afford to carry him as he doesn't hang around long. On the off chance he comes good it will usually be quite effective.

There's absolutely no way we can expose him too early though, which continues to heap pressure on RizBab when they know hacks like these still walks into our minnow batting line up.
 
I have to agree , this has been the funniest thread I have read for sometime , Asif Ali the captain :sarf_facepalm:facepalm, :vk1:virat1:virat1:))):)))
 
shaz619 said:
Asif Ali was playing the ball with his head today :))
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He's finding new ways to score runs each day.

Was feeling bad for Gavaskar and other commentators who had to praise him for the sake of it. Deep down they must be thinking what a clown this guy is.
 
i am surprised asif ali hasnt called Saj and requested this thread to be deleted himself.... this is putting undue attention and extra criticism on him... 🤣
 
This is a beautiful thread. A rewarding experience to browse through the gems of this forum.
 
Asif Ali over Babar/Rizwan and Shadab as captain

There

I said it again.

My haters who like to bump this thread because of me consistently exposing the con of Rizwan and Babar in T20’s can cry all they want. I will not give up on my efforts to speak the truth.

Asif Ali is a much bigger match winner than Babar and Rizwan
 
Rana said:
Asif Ali over Babar/Rizwan and Shadab as captain

There

I said it again.

My haters who like to bump this thread because of me consistently exposing the con of Rizwan and Babar in T20’s can cry all they want. I will not give up on my efforts to speak the truth.

Asif Ali is a much bigger match winner than Babar and Rizwan
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Actually, if you detail and clearly indicate this to be the case for t20's only, then yes, to some extent there is a case. Asif Ali is a T20 player only, he plays purely for the team, no selfish innings what so ever. Babar although is a great bat, he is not a t20 player, if he is for his consistency like Rizwan, then him and Rizwan and Shan (not even performing) cannot co-exist in a t20 lineup. I am a firm believer of horses for courses. Intent is very crucial, if a player shows to play a handfull of meaningless innings whixh do nothing to the cause of the game, get rid of them
... dont need a 45 ball 50 etc, unless it comes from a bowler after team got man handled...

Rizwan wk, we need a keeper
Sharjeel fitness wise will not take him but this is Pak
Saim Ayub need fresh blood ie red hot form too
Fakhar or Babar only if he gives up opening
Tallat Hussain/Haider Ali both have promise, if babar plays #4 than fakhar instead of these 2
Asif Ali dont care hit or miss guy does win matches
Shadab imp cog
Nawaz imp cog
Haris R imp cog
Shaheen imp cog captain
Naseem imp cog

Babar is taking this t20 team as a toothless tiger... our batting isnt winning us games, our bowling is, which always has and will... waiting for a day when the opposition thumps the crap out of us and then our batting pummels them... We had a successful start to t20s only bcoz our ppl were used to short formats due to ramadan tournaments etc, other teams started late, and didnt pay much heed to t20s, but now we are still playing dinosaur era t20s and other teams have adapted and improvised... if we dont mend our ways, we will be trying to qualify for these wc's... none of our players have explosive or innovative shots they can play at will... even Asif Ali has been figured out for his 1 trick shot of go deep in crease and hit over mid on to a fuller ball or half volley...
 
Rana said:
Asif Ali over Babar/Rizwan and Shadab as captain

There

I said it again.

My haters who like to bump this thread because of me consistently exposing the con of Rizwan and Babar in T20’s can cry all they want. I will not give up on my efforts to speak the truth.

Asif Ali is a much bigger match winner than Babar and Rizwan
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What captaincy credentials does he have?
 
Rana said:
What exactly did Babar have instead of a silver spoon fed into his mouth?
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Yes he have nothing. He didn't do anything worth mentioning as compared to asif in international cricket.
 
Rana said:
I’m used to having an opinion that takes it’s time to prove its correctness

I’m also used to the abuse I suffer in the process of it turning out to be correct

Asif Ali is our most important T20 match winner with the bat.
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You wrong about Faheem, he is nowhere near the team.

You are wrong about Rizwan.

When are you ever right?
 
And for the record, Babar should be Pakistan’s captain until he retires from cricket. Period.
 
Rana said:
What exactly did Babar have instead of a silver spoon fed into his mouth?
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You’re resorting to What aboutism.

*On his own*, what captaincy credentials has Asif Ali ever demonstrated? Is he a great leader of men? Is he a good tactician? Is he able to motivate players to perform better than their current form? Is he a good communicator? Does he set the tone via his preparation?

Can you because examples of when he’s consistently shown the above attributes?
 
Rana said:
What exactly did Babar have instead of a silver spoon fed into his mouth?
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You started this thread.

I am asking you on what basis should Asif Ali be Pakistan's T20 captain?

To come up with this thread, you must have some logic or ideas about why he should be T20I captain.
 
Saj said:
You started this thread.

I am asking you on what basis should Asif Ali be Pakistan's T20 captain?

To come up with this thread, you must have some logic or ideas about why he should be T20I captain.
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Asif Ali is asking the same question too :yk
 
bump for what he did today, captain asif got scared.
 
I swear I can't believe the OP wasn't an attempt at humor :)) I'll give him the benefit of doubt.
 
This guy isn't even a club level batsman, in fact I'd go as far as to say he isn't even a tapeball batsman. He's purely a gully cricketer, only able to hit balls in the V aerially, and has no other shot whatsoever. When he has to face a short ball with pace or any form of spin, I'm pretty sure there are #11 batsmen I played U18's school cricket with/against who would handle it better.

It's becoming humiliating to see him step out onto the pitch, and if I was him I'd take a good long look at myself in the mirror just to see how much shame I'm bringing upon my country. A tight slap on his face is the fact that no other cricketing nation plays a 'specialist' batsman at #7 or #8 as he often does. Despicable cricketer, hope that after this tournament he never plays a game of cricket of any sort in Pakistan again.
 
Contributed more than Babar at least

Don’t see why he should be chastised

It’s about mindset as a team.
 
this tuk tuk mindset will spoil pak cricket.. need asif ali to be captain from hereon
 
Saj said:
You started this thread.

I am asking you on what basis should Asif Ali be Pakistan's T20 captain?

To come up with this thread, you must have some logic or ideas about why he should be T20I captain.
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His logic was "Asif didn't do too bad when he was Islamabad United captain"

But he didn't know that Asif has a 100% losing record as IU captain.

Like I said before, this thread is a gem that will keep on giving. He's now even resorted to "but he scored more than Babar".
 
shariqnoor said:
His logic was "Asif didn't do too bad when he was Islamabad United captain"

But he didn't know that Asif has a 100% losing record as IU captain.

Like I said before, this thread is a gem that will keep on giving. He's now even resorted to "but he scored more than Babar".
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Has there been a better thread on this forum? This truly is gold. The next one should campaign for Asif being added to the PCB hall of fame.
 
Asif Ali averages 9.9 against the top 7 teams left in this WC. No amount of strike rate can compensate for that. But if you insist on numbers, his SR is a shocking 126.

If you want to include WI, his output is about 10.8 runs per game at a SR of 133. For comparison of how much of "impact" he has, Babar strikes at 135 (average 39) and Rizwan at 134 (average of 60).

Only on including Afghanistan, does his SR go up to 146 (and that's due to one game). The average is still a horrible 12. At this point we might as well play Hassan Ali, he can strike at over 170 and averages 4-5 runs higher.

The notion that Asif is an impact batsman or indeed a batsman needs to end. There is nothing to back it up, not stats of any kind nor his ability. His weakness are too many to account for, even in T20 cricket. This is why I don't like terms as experience, talent and impact. They are meaningless and can be distorted to mean just about anything.

Naseem can win us the games against Afghanistan as well. If that's the criteria, we can push him and Shaheen up the order in Asif's place.

Asif Ali shouldn't be in the team and his output in every game these days is showing why.
 
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Arsal_AK said:
Asif Ali averages 9.9 against the top 7 teams left in this WC. No amount of strike rate can compensate for that. But if you insist on numbers, his SR is a shocking 126.


If you want to include WI, his output is about 10.8 runs per game at a SR of 133. For comparison of how much of "impact" he has, Babar strikes at 135 (average 39) and Rizwan at 134 (average of 60).

Only on including Afghanistan, does his SR go up to 146 (and that's due to one game). The average is still a horrible 12. At this point we might as well play Hassan Ali, he can strike at over 170 and averages 4-5 runs higher.

The notion that Asif is an impact batsman or indeed a batsman needs to end. There is nothing to back it up, not stats of any kind nor his ability. His weakness are too many to account for, even in T20 cricket. This is why I don't like terms as experience, talent and impact. They are meaningless and can be distorted to mean just about anything.

Naseem can win us the games against Afghanistan as well. If that's the criteria, we can push him and Shaheen up the order in Asif's place.
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No but what did Rizwan and Babar do today? Personally, I would never argue with anyone who thinks Asif will ever be of any use to the team as that's a very good indication of their cricketing IQ.
 
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Asif321 said:
This thread should be deleted ASAP . It is totally illegal to even think of it
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I agree... unfortunately empty vessels make the most noise. Supporters from other teams read these forums. It's humiliating for PPers as a whole.
 
I have no idea what this pathetic cricketer doing in Australia , why don't we play Waseem Jr in his place , that would give some cushion to the bowing and Waseem can score more runs that what Asif has been scoring .
 
Like I posted in another thread, his t20 stats were more shocking than I even imagined this year. Out of the 15 t20 innings he has played this year, in 10 of those innings he has got out under 10.

3, 9, DNB, 16, 16, 0, 0, 13*, 5, 9, 7, 4, DNB, 25*, 2*,1, and 2 today.
 
Shaheen and Naseem are better batters than Asif who adds nothing to the team.
Play Wasim in his place atleast he will contribute something
 
I've got a perfect suggestion. Just throw this Asif Ali out of the team. He is a complete waste of space who can't bowl, field or bat. If need be play a bowler instead who most likely will bat much better then this so called big hitter.
 
pratiktc said:
Shaheen and Naseem are better batters than Asif who adds nothing to the team.
Play Wasim in his place atleast he will contribute something
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A more atheletic fielder might have prevented that 6 too. Poor work from our captain.
 
It’s the way he got out. Technically so poor. As a bowler, you can easily pick him apart. Imagine what others teams will do with the short ball after seeing todays dismissal !
 
Sadly his time is up.

I have a lot of respect for him...won us a few matches singlehandedly.

I do think a better ' think tank' could get more of him.

It seems like we have allowed him to be rubbish because thats his style, but he hasnt evolved and having a specialist 'hitter'at 8 who cant hit is a failed experiment.

Captaincy is a good joke though :))
 
If you combine Wasim and Rauf together then 9/10 times they will score more runs at a better strike rate than Asif in the death overs but sadly we are just looking at 1/10 performance from Asif where he will score 25+ at 200 s/r , surely that's what think tank thinking and let me tell you it's a recipe for disaster
 
Rana said:
I can see my suggestion of appointing Asif Ali as the captain has offended plenty of our 80s brand fans of T20 cricket on this forum.

Asif Ali will roar back and casually win Pakistan another game.

He has played 2 matches, and Pakistan have won both.

He is a vital member of this team
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Well he definitely has been playing like a casual.

Your suggestion is on track for becoming cricket’s meme of the year if his form doesn’t turn around quickly.
 
Imagine getting paid thousands of dollars to travel the world, and all you have to do is hit 1-2 sixes every 10 games.
 
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