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So Babar Azam need to score 450 runs in 6 innings to be the number 1 test batsmen but in England conditions will be very much tough but his technique is very strong and we already have seen some glimpses in his 1st test at lords in 2018
So what do you say guys?
 
Not yet sure that Babar Azam is at same level to current best Smith and Kohli, still a very long way and a lot to prove, babar looks promising but then so did many recent pak players be it batsman or bowler, this toughest ever challenge of england series will show a real picture does babar has it in him to be on top or still have lot of time to reach the top
 
So Babar Azam need to score 450 runs in 6 innings to be the number 1 test batsmen but in England conditions will be very much tough but his technique is very strong and we already have seen some glimpses in his 1st test at lords in 2018
So what do you say guys?

How'd u work that out. Hopefully he will get close. I expect him to average 50. Hopefully he's found some rythym and fluency
 
I expect him to be 2nd ahead of Kohli but below smith by the end of the series. Speaks volumes in itself considering he is 25
 
So Babar Azam need to score 450 runs in 6 innings to be the number 1 test batsmen but in England conditions will be very much tough but his technique is very strong and we already have seen some glimpses in his 1st test at lords in 2018
So what do you say guys?

He can, pretty much easy.

Virat Kohli last England Tour
5 tests - 593 runs -59.30 Average.
 
Bobby is the most talented batsman playing cricket right now. Nobody times the ball better than him. In fact, I think he's a bit overrated in LOI cricket cos he doesn't have the extra gear that other batsmen seem to but in tests he can easily be the best of the lot.
 
Bobby is the most talented batsman playing cricket right now. Nobody times the ball better than him. In fact, I think he's a bit overrated in LOI cricket cos he doesn't have the extra gear that other batsmen seem to but in tests he can easily be the best of the lot.


I remember Mamoon saying a few years ago that tests would be his best format in the long run, I’m convinced he’ll be proven right
 
So Babar Azam need to score 450 runs in 6 innings to be the number 1 test batsmen but in England conditions will be very much tough but his technique is very strong and we already have seen some glimpses in his 1st test at lords in 2018
So what do you say guys?

Dont think he will get that much runs tbh that's alot of runs maybe about 350
 
That’s a double century in one innings and 50 in all the other 5. Not sure if Babar is at that level honestly
 
He sure can, have faith in the boy. Only issue is that there's no one around that he can take inspiration from as all the other batsmen in the team are mediocre.

Could be a mental thing, but he just needs to relax and let his skills do the talking.
 
I have a bad feeling that Babar will disappoint us in this series. He may average around the 40 run mark but he doesn't seem to be in the same sort of form he was a few months back.

As far as getting to number 1 goes, Babar needs a good run of matches at home conditions to rack up points combined with solid performances away. It's the same way Smith and Kohli have done it, great performances away but absolute beastly at home. I don't see Babar getting enough matches at home to get near the 900 ranking point mark. Maybe he can get as high as 850 points but Smith and Kohli have really raised the bar for the number 1 spot.
 
I have a bad feeling that Babar will disappoint us in this series. He may average around the 40 run mark but he doesn't seem to be in the same sort of form he was a few months back.

As far as getting to number 1 goes, Babar needs a good run of matches at home conditions to rack up points combined with solid performances away. It's the same way Smith and Kohli have done it, great performances away but absolute beastly at home. I don't see Babar getting enough matches at home to get near the 900 ranking point mark. Maybe he can get as high as 850 points but Smith and Kohli have really raised the bar for the number 1 spot.
Here is a thing brother what i saw in babar azam in these there years is his hunger for being the best in which i agree 100 percent he doesn't care much about winning for team as much he care to be best than everyone else and this selfish thing is the reason he wll perform in these test matches and will agree more than 60 bet with me don't judge him with his ordinary performance in intra squad he knows these runs not gonma effect his average but as soon he will come to face some music against England you will see different babar because he knows every run matter to be the best
 
Kohli scored 440 in the first three test matches,so it's quite possible for babar too.

You might be saying that with a bit of wry smile. That's like nearly 74 runs per innings, what a great series for Kohli. That many runs could prove to be a tall order even for Babar.

But he'll need to score quite heavily to keep Pakistan in the series.
 
So Babar Azam need to score 450 runs in 6 innings to be the number 1 test batsmen but in England conditions will be very much tough but his technique is very strong and we already have seen some glimpses in his 1st test at lords in 2018
So what do you say guys?

450 runs does not translate to fix points. Some time depending on situation, 250 runs will get more points than 400 runs.
 
There is nothing great about reaching no.1 ranking. Even Gautam Gambhir has been ranked no.1 in test rankings.
 
Definitely Miandad, Inzi, Yousuf, Younis. Not sure if there are any others. Saeed Anwar was once ranked #2 but never made it to the top spot.

Hanif Mohammed, Salim Malik and Mushtaq Mohammed also reached till #2 spot in the rankings in their careers but could never reach on the #1 ranking.
 
There is nothing great about reaching no.1 ranking. Even Gautam Gambhir has been ranked no.1 in test rankings.

Well, you do have to perform well for some period to get there. It's mutiple times harder to maintain rank 1 for long time than to just there. You can get there becasue of schdule or slight dip in your opponents, but to maintain you have to producec sustained good performance.

There is certainly something great about holding top rank for an extended periods. No ATG players get there without spending long time in top 3 rank. Not talking about fans putting just good players as ATG.

Having said that, when you have 900+ as cut off right now for having a shot at rank 1 then it's commendable even if you do it for one day.
 
Definitely yes and highly likely very soon

Babar Azam has finally locked down formula for hitting test hundreds. If next few tours go the same way he will be be #1 by mid 2021.

Kohli, Smith, Root, Williamson, Pujara are all past their prime.
 
Well, you do have to perform well for some period to get there. It's mutiple times harder to maintain rank 1 for long time than to just there. You can get there becasue of schdule or slight dip in your opponents, but to maintain you have to producec sustained good performance.

There is certainly something great about holding top rank for an extended periods. No ATG players get there without spending long time in top 3 rank. Not talking about fans putting just good players as ATG.

Having said that, when you have 900+ as cut off right now for having a shot at rank 1 then it's commendable even if you do it for one day.

Credit where due, Babar is definitely giving QDk a tough fight for the spot for next great batsmen after the Fab Four.

Unfortunately, KL Rahul has been sidekicked by both in this race for now.
 
Credit where due, Babar is definitely giving QDk a tough fight for the spot for next great batsmen after the Fab Four.

Unfortunately, KL Rahul has been sidekicked by both in this race for now.


IPL is good and bad for some players, he adapted IPL style of play and struggling in tests.
For me he is most talented than Kohli and Rohit, he can develop into something extraordinary.
 
Babar Azam doesn’t have that defining knock yet that guys like Kohli and Smith or even Williamson have. Right now his best chance is to take up the spot of Joe Root.

If you are just talking about talent then sure he has the ability to be no.1 but right now he is way behind in the pecking order .
 
IPL is good and bad for some players, he adapted IPL style of play and struggling in tests.
For me he is most talented than Kohli and Rohit, he can develop into something extraordinary.

KL Rahul is more talented than Kohli and Rohit???
 
IPL is good and bad for some players, he adapted IPL style of play and struggling in tests.
For me he is most talented than Kohli and Rohit, he can develop into something extraordinary.

But only one of them is a great test batsmen. We have started wasting our batting talents as well.
 
IPL is good and bad for some players, he adapted IPL style of play and struggling in tests.
For me he is most talented than Kohli and Rohit, he can develop into something extraordinary.

With all due respect this is a problem for each country. Given the increased focus on T20s and specially locking down a slot in such leagues, I'm quite confident that the number of "good" test batsmen would decline in near future.

You do not need to look far beyond below are just few examples of players who are touted as future stars but there is a high possibility these players would never achieve anything of worth in test arena.
- Haider Ali (Pakistan)
- Tom Banton (England)
- QDK (SAF)
- Stoinis (Australia)
- KL Rahul (India) - (Although I still feel this guy in blessed with ability and might make it big in tests too)

The common fact about the above are that these guys would go on to have a very good white ball career. Further, when we look them bat it would be obvious that with ease at which they bat a minor change with increased temperament and correction of technique can yield great results in tests too.

The only reason these guys might not make it big is because of too much T20 cricket. At the end of the day we cannot complain as we the fans have associated the stardom with T20s and hence made is more focused for cricketers.
 
Definitely yes and highly likely very soon

Babar Azam has finally locked down formula for hitting test hundreds. If next few tours go the same way he will be be #1 by mid 2021.

Kohli, Smith, Root, Williamson, Pujara are all past their prime.

He is a very good batsmen, but to say someone like Smith, who had a top 10 all time series barely 12 months ago is on the way down is folly. Most ATG bats these days last into their late 30’s
Labu is a better test bat anyway
 
i have to wait and see this Eng vs pak 2020 test series to complete.. From the practice games it seems like he wants to play longer but cannot squeeze his natural style of play... Seems to bit struggling to find the right balance between his natural stroke play and playing longer.... He will again struggle in English conditions this summer, he wants to score big hundreds by playing longer but he is restricting himself to play his shots, this will confuse his concentration level and would often get out cheaply for scores under 50 or max 60 he can score with this talent...

He should keep following his batting style of what he did in Australia, just go with the flow... His 120s and 130s at a strike rate of 70 would help the team more than trying to play longer and getting out cheaply for less than 50..His big hundreds can come late , shouldnt be any issue there, before that if he can make scoring 100s as a habit , big hundreds will take care of itself in the future...
 
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I don't see him getting to the #1 spot in Tests till Smith and Kohli are around.
 
Tough. His Test highest score is still below 150. If he is to reach no. 1, he has to convert some of these small hundreds into big one. Also, officially Smith is just about 5 years older - next 4-5 years, it’ll be tough for anyone to cross him.
 
I don't see him getting to the #1 spot in Tests till Smith and Kohli are around.

All Babar needs to do is to keep on helping Pakistan win games - personal records are great but of no interest if Pakistan doesnt win.
 
Misbah’s comments on Babar

“The reason for Babar’s success is that he takes on challenges, and has responded well even when extra pressure of captaincy; If we look at his stats in Tests and LOIs, his performances have improved further; We have high hopes that he will continue to play in the same way.
 
Late last year, Babar Azam conquered Australia. In Brisbane, he reeled off a hundred so finely constructed that it made you feel intoxicated just watching it, amidst a violent onslaught of Australian quicks on a lively surface. Pakistan slumped to an innings defeat, but Azam wowed them all.

The hundred, and the 97 in Adelaide for an equally heart-breaking defeat, had Australians rushing for adjectives. Tom Moody raved: “If you think Kohli is good to watch, have a look at Azam bat. My gosh, he’s something special.” Mike Hussey gushed: “This guy can be in the same conversation when we start talking about the best players in the world.”

England awaits to be conquered. Expectedly, there’s an unmistakable buzz around him, a conviction that he could be the most prized wicket of series even before the first ball gets bowled in the three-Test series, starting Wednesday at the Old Trafford. A feeling that a special talent is spreading his wings and soaring to greatness. Only the finest of batsmen from Pakistan have generated such anticipation.

If much of the initial hype around him was about style, minimalistic technique and melting stroke-play, now he has married it with substance. Some stats are better than those churned out by the Fab Four of this generation. Since start of 2018, Babar averages 65.5 in Tests, compensating an average start of 23 in his first 11 Tests and an eternal wait for his maiden hundred. Joe Root, Kane Williamson, Virat Kohli and Steve Smith’s corresponding figures read: 40, 52, 53 and 59. There’s three hundreds in his last seven innings, besides a 97 and 60. All these runs, staggeringly scored at the fastest clip — 63 per 100 hundred balls, seven more than Kohli, the next on the list.

Yet, he’d be the first to admit that he is imperfect, still a few badges away from gaining access to the rarefied space of greatness. He still has the tendency to play one stroke too many, to drive instinctively from the crease, and to reach out for the ball that’s pitched far from off-stump. Minimalism of foot-work is beautiful when it comes off; horrendous when it doesn’t. No doubt, England bowlers will relentlessly probe those channels, testing his discretion as much as technique. As hostile a bowling firm he had subdued in Australia, their England counterparts could ask him tougher posers.

James Anderson could tease and taunt him with swing and guile, Stuart Broad with seam-movement and smarts, Jofra Archer with raw pace and Chris Woakes with innocuous cutters and wobblers.

The conditions – lovely when it’s sunny, savage when gloomy, will demand the batsman blends technical perfection with judged brilliance. Some of his favourite strokes need un-friending. Like the punch on the rise that was so productive in Australia. Or the flick that he sometimes picks off the middle-stump. Even to pull is dangerous if the breeze trifles about with the Dukes ball.

More than his skills to adapt, it’s about the discipline. It’s not like in Australia where macho-ness reigns, but about reining the macho-ness of your batting. It’s both the strokes played, and those not.

He’s not a complete stranger to the country. His county stint with Somerset saw them pen a ballad for him and their technicians upgrade the club website’s server capacity during live streams and a prolific World Cup too. His only Test innings had 68 glorious runs before he retired hurt, struck on the arm by a Stokes bouncer.

Acquainted he might be, but he’s still far from mastering English conditions. His favourite batsman, Kohli, would concur. It took the Indian a second visit to assert his credentials; while Williamson needed five innings and Smith 13 to reach hundreds in England. Someone like David Warner has never scored one in 13 games. There is no better place for a keen young batsman to test the limits of his game than in England.

Driven as he is, Azam wouldn’t flinch. Rather than getting compared with the batting greats, he is on a journey of self-discovery and improvement. Azam himself says: “A good performance doesn’t make me happy, instead I push myself to go further and try to expand my game”. His coach Misbah-ul-Haq sheds more light into his psyche: “He believes in the work ethic that if you want to better Kohli you have to work harder than him at your skills, fitness and game awareness. He is never bored of getting runs, he is always hungry.”

In this regard, it rankles him that he hasn’t yet registered a score of 150-plus in Tests. “When you score a century, you naturally want to go on and convert that into a double or a triple century. This is something I would like to do during the Test series,” he had recently said in a press conference. If he does so, he shall have England conquered by the end of the summer.

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...uest-pakistan-vs-england-test-series-6539601/
 
"One thing is for certain, he has a trademark coverdrive shot; There is nothing better than a Babar Azam cover-drive;

I think for Pakistan to win this series, Babar Azam needs to have a good series, if he has a good series, it will be very very watchable - he is a gun player"

Nasser Hussain
 
"One thing is for certain, he has a trademark coverdrive shot; There is nothing better than a Babar Azam cover-drive;

I think for Pakistan to win this series, Babar Azam needs to have a good series, if he has a good series, it will be very very watchable - he is a gun player"

Nasser Hussain
 
Highest averages in Test matches since start of 2018 (Min. 20 innings):

Babar Azam - 64.57

Marnus Labuschagne - 63.43

Steve Smith - 59.66

Virat Kohli - 53.29

Kane Williamson - 52.58
 
Some excellent analysis from Nasser Hussain about how Babar's game has evolved.

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Never thought I'd be saying it but Babar looking one of the shakiest of the Pakistani batsmen so far. Hopefully he can regroup during the lunch break and come out more confident.
 
Greatest test batsman in the world since 2018.

Very soon on the ICC list.

It is a treat to watch him bat.

A once in a generation level of batting talent.
 
Some excellent analysis from Nasser Hussain about how Babar's game has evolved.

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Lets hope he doesnt wilt under the hype now

A big series like this needs a good babar azam
 
Looking much settled now - and conditions looking good too
 
Eventually he is gonna take that spot, he is just 25. Wont be surprised if it happens sooner than expected.
 
Big big series coming up for him.

Wonder if he can do it.

Btw, does anyone know what his stats were before making his test debut? his first-class stats?

How many runs, average, innings etc
 
Big big series coming up for him.

Wonder if he can do it.

Btw, does anyone know what his stats were before making his test debut? his first-class stats?

How many runs, average, innings etc


Average of 41.43 in 41 innings with a high score of 266. Don’t remember exactly how many runs but roughly 1600.
 
Late last year, Babar Azam conquered Australia. In Brisbane, he reeled off a hundred so finely constructed that it made you feel intoxicated just watching it, amidst a violent onslaught of Australian quicks on a lively surface. Pakistan slumped to an innings defeat, but Azam wowed them all.

The hundred, and the 97 in Adelaide for an equally heart-breaking defeat, had Australians rushing for adjectives. Tom Moody raved: “If you think Kohli is good to watch, have a look at Azam bat. My gosh, he’s something special.” Mike Hussey gushed: “This guy can be in the same conversation when we start talking about the best players in the world.”

England awaits to be conquered. Expectedly, there’s an unmistakable buzz around him, a conviction that he could be the most prized wicket of series even before the first ball gets bowled in the three-Test series, starting Wednesday at the Old Trafford. A feeling that a special talent is spreading his wings and soaring to greatness. Only the finest of batsmen from Pakistan have generated such anticipation.

If much of the initial hype around him was about style, minimalistic technique and melting stroke-play, now he has married it with substance. Some stats are better than those churned out by the Fab Four of this generation. Since start of 2018, Babar averages 65.5 in Tests, compensating an average start of 23 in his first 11 Tests and an eternal wait for his maiden hundred. Joe Root, Kane Williamson, Virat Kohli and Steve Smith’s corresponding figures read: 40, 52, 53 and 59. There’s three hundreds in his last seven innings, besides a 97 and 60. All these runs, staggeringly scored at the fastest clip — 63 per 100 hundred balls, seven more than Kohli, the next on the list.

Yet, he’d be the first to admit that he is imperfect, still a few badges away from gaining access to the rarefied space of greatness. He still has the tendency to play one stroke too many, to drive instinctively from the crease, and to reach out for the ball that’s pitched far from off-stump. Minimalism of foot-work is beautiful when it comes off; horrendous when it doesn’t. No doubt, England bowlers will relentlessly probe those channels, testing his discretion as much as technique. As hostile a bowling firm he had subdued in Australia, their England counterparts could ask him tougher posers.

James Anderson could tease and taunt him with swing and guile, Stuart Broad with seam-movement and smarts, Jofra Archer with raw pace and Chris Woakes with innocuous cutters and wobblers.

The conditions – lovely when it’s sunny, savage when gloomy, will demand the batsman blends technical perfection with judged brilliance. Some of his favourite strokes need un-friending. Like the punch on the rise that was so productive in Australia. Or the flick that he sometimes picks off the middle-stump. Even to pull is dangerous if the breeze trifles about with the Dukes ball.

More than his skills to adapt, it’s about the discipline. It’s not like in Australia where macho-ness reigns, but about reining the macho-ness of your batting. It’s both the strokes played, and those not.

He’s not a complete stranger to the country. His county stint with Somerset saw them pen a ballad for him and their technicians upgrade the club website’s server capacity during live streams and a prolific World Cup too. His only Test innings had 68 glorious runs before he retired hurt, struck on the arm by a Stokes bouncer.

Acquainted he might be, but he’s still far from mastering English conditions. His favourite batsman, Kohli, would concur. It took the Indian a second visit to assert his credentials; while Williamson needed five innings and Smith 13 to reach hundreds in England. Someone like David Warner has never scored one in 13 games. There is no better place for a keen young batsman to test the limits of his game than in England.

Driven as he is, Azam wouldn’t flinch. Rather than getting compared with the batting greats, he is on a journey of self-discovery and improvement. Azam himself says: “A good performance doesn’t make me happy, instead I push myself to go further and try to expand my game”. His coach Misbah-ul-Haq sheds more light into his psyche: “He believes in the work ethic that if you want to better Kohli you have to work harder than him at your skills, fitness and game awareness. He is never bored of getting runs, he is always hungry.”

In this regard, it rankles him that he hasn’t yet registered a score of 150-plus in Tests. “When you score a century, you naturally want to go on and convert that into a double or a triple century. This is something I would like to do during the Test series,” he had recently said in a press conference. If he does so, he shall have England conquered by the end of the summer.

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...uest-pakistan-vs-england-test-series-6539601/

I guess that 100 in Brisbane doesnt matter because it didnt help Pakistan win.
 
So you tought India isn't bowling well so it's better to entertain yourself in another way and go after Babar?

You Pakistanis are too sensitive, relax, don't get all butt hurt, going by what Miggy posted earlier below, the 100 Babar scored doesn't matter much as it resulted in a loss.

All Babar needs to do is to keep on helping Pakistan win games - personal records are great but of no interest if Pakistan doesnt win.


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Dropped to 6th in latest rankings - guess the NZ series miss the issue

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Big failure for him in this series.
That's nor random failing, there were important situations in witch he failed, especially this second innings.
 
Big failure for him in this series.
That's nor random failing, there were important situations in witch he failed, especially this second innings.

Looks like the “best batsman in the world on current form” drama has ended.

He was never the best at any point. He has a long, long way to go before he can be compared to the fab 4.

A B+ batsman at this point.
 
Looks like the “best batsman in the world on current form” drama has ended.

He was never the best at any point. He has a long, long way to go before he can be compared to the fab 4.

A B+ batsman at this point.

Always said he was behind Smith, as I put crucial test perofrmances over anything.
Here he has failed in some important innings against a good team so he will have to play well again.

I am not biased like you and some indian fans who may even call Kohli the best current batsman, when he has done nothing of note in the past 2 years.
 
Always said he was behind Smith, as I put crucial test perofrmances over anything.
Here he has failed in some important innings against a good team so he will have to play well again.

I am not biased like you and some indian fans who may even call Kohli the best current batsman, when he has done nothing of note in the past 2 years.

He was always miles behind Kohli as well.
 
Always said he was behind Smith, as I put crucial test perofrmances over anything.
Here he has failed in some important innings against a good team so he will have to play well again.

I am not biased like you and some indian fans who may even call Kohli the best current batsman, when he has done nothing of note in the past 2 years.
Lol Virat played a total of 4 Test matches in last 2 years. Out of that he was batting supremely in Adelaide, with Pink ball during the toughest time to bat, and he was run out.
Bhai Babar is good but itna jhooth to mat bolo.
 
On current form, (last 2 years) he isn't.
But Virat has a good chance in front of him with many tests scheduled.

Again, no.

However, Virat would be glad that you have given a “good chance” to overtake the legendary Babar in the upcoming Tests. :91:
 
Let the comparaison, Babar has disappointed.
Never felt he was very comfortable against spin, let's how it goes on from here.
Strange time that SENA players, Smith, Root and Williamson (not sure about him) are better against spin than there Asian counterparts .
 
Again, no.

However, Virat would be glad that you have given a “good chance” to overtake the legendary Babar in the upcoming Tests. :91:

Forward him my message as you idolize him like a family member!
 
Let the comparaison, Babar has disappointed.
Never felt he was very comfortable against spin, let's how it goes on from here.
Strange time that SENA players, Smith, Root and Williamson (not sure about him) are better against spin than there Asian counterparts .

Hayden, Waugh, Clarke etc were really good players of spin. Pujara, Rohit, Pant, Kohli etc are also good, and so is Angelo, Mushfiqur, Tamim etc.
Please don't club all Asian batsmen with Pakistan. Pakistan batting barring Babar has been a let down for past few years.
 
Hayden, Waugh, Clarke etc were really good players of spin. Pujara, Rohit, Pant, Kohli etc are also good, and so is Angelo, Mushfiqur, Tamim etc.
Please don't club all Asian batsmen with Pakistan. Pakistan batting barring Babar has been a let down for past few years.

Here I am talking about real test match batting. You are bringing in Rohit who I can't remember playing even a test on a turner, maybe I am wrong, so spread is his career.
Pant, as he already played in India?
I am talking about elite batting, Pujara and Kohli are very good/good.
Kohli has failed to many times at home in hot situation. Yet to play a remarkable innings on a turner.
 
Here I am talking about real test match batting. You are bringing in Rohit who I can't remember playing even a test on a turner, maybe I am wrong, so spread is his career.
Pant, as he already played in India?
I am talking about elite batting, Pujara and Kohli are very good/good.
Kohli has failed to many times at home in hot situation. Yet to play a remarkable innings on a turner.
When did root play a great innings on a 'turner', if you count this pitch as a turner then Kohli has played quite a few innings like these.
Secondly Kohli failed against aus in india 2018(where he was suffering from an injury) and fast bowlers were the ones who got him out most of the time in that series. It says nothing about his game against spin, averaging 65+ in India in 40+ tests is more than enough to prove that he is a fine player of spin.

Also check his average vs spin and against good spinners. He has dominated Lyon, Herath and Maharaj.

Babar has already failed in more series at home+Uae(Srl, Nz, Sa) than kohli did in his career(home conditions) .
 
Lol Virat played a total of 4 Test matches in last 2 years. Out of that he was batting supremely in Adelaide, with Pink ball during the toughest time to bat, and he was run out.
Bhai Babar is good but itna jhooth to mat bolo.

Dishonesty is a common trait among:

- Misbah's cheerleaders
- Babar's cheerleaders
- Indophobes
- Green tinted hype brigade
 
Babar is still by quite distance the best Pakistani batsman. If Pakistan manages to win the test series against SAF with little to below average performance from Babar then its very good signs for Pakistan team. This would help Pakistan to reduce their reliance on Babar which would be good for Babar too in the long run.

On current form people need to take into consideration that this was his first test series as captain and return to cricket after a gap due to injury. With the FTPs lined up ahead in the year I would not be surprised if Babar make some gains on the ranking list.
 
In 30 Tests, he hasn’t been player-of-the-match even once.
 
Babar bailed us out from 30-4 by scoring a quickfire 77 in a pressure situation. He lost his concentration the next morning but it was not to spin bowling.

Babar’s concentration issues are the problem, not his skill. This is something that he does not have naturally, but he can gain it with time. Once he does, he will ascend to that upper tier.

Right now, our best Test batsmen are:

1. Azhar Ali
2. Fawad Alam
3. Babar Azam
4. Faheem Ashraf
5. Mohammad Rizwan

In that order.
 
Coming to the topic, Its is not easy for Babar to reach no-1 spot at least for next one year.
Kane, Root and Labu are in red hot form, Babar need to score heavily to surpass others.
 
Here I am talking about real test match batting. You are bringing in Rohit who I can't remember playing even a test on a turner, maybe I am wrong, so spread is his career.
Pant, as he already played in India?
I am talking about elite batting, Pujara and Kohli are very good/good.
Kohli has failed to many times at home in hot situation. Yet to play a remarkable innings on a turner.

Lol Rohit is a murderer of spin bowling in Asia. Even in tests. Go watch his centuries against Windies on debut and vs SA.
Maharaj was taken for lots of runs and here Babar can’t seem to put bat on his bowling.

Kohli failed in one series vs Australia in spinning conditions.
Pant has 2 scores of 90 in India but not enough sample size yet.

I have high expectations from Babar as well but let’s not compare him with men who are already greats of the game.
Babar to be considered elite batsman has to score a few innings 150 plus overseas and a couple of double centuries at home.
I admit even Kohli’s first 2-3 years highest score was 107. But then he kicked in once he started batting at 4.
So Let Babar build a portfolio and we will rate him to be a great of the game that the Pakistani fans deserve.
 
Babar Azam has dropped to 9th position with release of the latest ICC Test ranking
 
Needs to get good scores in this final Test vs Zimbabwe
 
Babar really wants to get rid of that Zimbabar tag it seems.

At this rate he'll be out of the top 10 let alone number 1
 
😂 Azam's ranking.

Not that it matters as long as a team wins but on this forum there is an obsession with Azam's ranking.
 
Very over-rated batsman. Should play as pure batsman instead of captain. Not a natural leader.
 
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