Can Europe or the UK also ban Muslims?

[PakLFC]

Just thinking that can a Trump also happen in Europe or the UK in particular? By that I mean can Muslim people from certain countries also be banned to enter Europe or the UK? Being a man of faith I am not at all fearful but want to know what others here feel the chances of something like this happening here are?

 

[WebGuru]

Not going to happen in UK/Canada anytime soon but i think France, Australia and some of the EU countries will follow the path and will implement it in near future.

 

[Musakhel]

No I think one day people will return back, well those that have not lost all identity of their roots.

 

[PakLFC]

Would be interesting to see the reaction if they did. I would never leave Islam even if they did. Would find a way to survive, insha Allah. It would make me even more proud to be a Muslim and strenghen my stance on Islam.

 

[90MPH]

No it's not happening, unless some right wing facist government gets into power.

 

[s28]

Forget that. UK's two biggest cities are 12% and 26% Muslim.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Will only happen if the right wing gets power in Europe. UK is a bit different,but the max they can do is not renew visas or not give work visas and do extreme vetting.A ban like US isnt likely.

 

[Yossarian]

Will only happen if the right wing gets power in Europe. UK is a bit different,but the max they can do is not renew visas or not give work visas and do extreme vetting.A ban like US isnt likely.

Not going to happen in UK/Canada anytime soon but i think France, Australia and some of the EU countries will follow the path and will implement it in near future.

France has more Muslims than Canada, the USA and Australia combined. Germany has almost the same (especially after the arrival of a million or so Syrian refugees) And you think France can/will ban Muslims from entering?

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Figures are for 2010, ie already 7 years out of date. Current numbers will much higher, especially after the arrival of millions of Syrian refugees since then.

 

[Ellipsism]

A recent poll in Australia showed that more than half the population want to ban Muslim immagration, and with the rising support of Pauline Hanson I would say it is more than plausible that Muslim immagration will be prohibited in Australia in a matter of a couple of years.

 

[Pakistanian]

A recent poll in Australia showed that more than half the population want to ban Muslim immagration, and with the rising support of Pauline Hanson I would say it is more than plausible that Muslim immagration will be prohibited in Australia in a matter of a couple of years.

Australia tries real hard to copy America, so I wouldn't be surprised at all.

 

[s28]

Incredible for a convict immigrant progeny population who committed ethnic cleansing of aboriginals

 

[Ellipsism]

Australia tries real hard to copy America, so I wouldn't be surprised at all.

In what way exactly?

 

[PakLFC]

In what way exactly?

In behaviour and culture. What the USA does they tend to follow them. As post 13 says they ethnically cleansed the aboriginals like the Europeans did the indigenous American's.

 

[Robert]

Just thinking that can a Trump also happen in Europe or the UK in particular? By that I mean can Muslim people from certain countries also be banned to enter Europe or the UK? Being a man of faith I am not at all fearful but want to know what others here feel the chances of something like this happening here are?

It won't happen. Those nations are all pluralist liberal democracies.

 

[Madplayer]

I hope all of the west bans all the muslim countries and cut off all ties with them.

They wont do it though. The will keep the doors open for all countries they can exploit.

 

[cricketfanfirst]

It won't happen. Those nations are all pluralist liberal democracies.

Never say "won't", there is nothing like "won't" in history ... Was US exception to what you mean by "pluralist liberal democracies"?. I read that in Netherlands also, now Dutch nationalists on the rise ... I think in future, this will be a rising trend in Europe.

Earlier, immigration was mostly for economic reasons and for higher education and so on. Now, immigration is mostly happening in the shape of refugees, due to reasons like war and displacement due to internal strife/sectarian disturbances and so on. In these times, even when a minuscule percentage of refugees are behind terror activities, then it will paint a different picture to the natives, who will be ready to think all refugees as danger to their society. I'm not sure of exact statistics, but I assume the percentage of refugees to Europe might have drastically increased in the last decade or so, compared to earlier times.

History has shown, when there are cases of huge unemployment, stagnant economy, huge gulf between rich and poor, massive corruption, the stage is set for rise of nationalism. They will be looking for easy scapegoat to fix all of their problems, and in this case it will be refugees. People are in desperate situation during those times, and will be easily swayed by emotion rather than analytical thinking. So I suspect, European countries too will see such trend, may not be right away but in future.

 

[cricketfanfirst]

I hope all of the west bans all the muslim countries and cut off all ties with them.

They wont do it though. The will keep the doors open for all countries they can exploit.

It has been and will be always, most countries will look for their national interest and will give "sermons" to others but when it comes to them, they look the other way.

At least, amongst the Islamic countries, Iran has shown some spine to stand-up against bullying. I think, it has not come by chance though, it strengthened its internal institutions, education has flourished, despite sanctions economy has not totally collapsed, which again shows resilience. If I remember stats of Math Olympiads from the last decade or so, Iran has done very well in them. So, when education and analytical thinking is on the rise in the majority of the population, they will develop independent mentality, develop self confidence and nation as a whole can stand-up to bullies.

 

[gani999]

France has more Muslims than Canada, the USA and Australia combined. Germany has almost the same (especially after the arrival of a million or so Syrian refugees) And you think France can/will ban Muslims from entering?

Marine Le Pen will most certainly ban all immigration from Muslim countries if she comes in to power.

Why, I can see even the UMP under Fillon doing something similar.

Given that it is going to be only either of these two who will form the next government in France, I won't be surprised at all if France's doors are closed to Muslim imigrants.

 

[Yossarian]

Marine Le Pen will most certainly ban all immigration from Muslim countries if she comes in to power.

Why, I can see even the UMP under Fillon doing something similar.

Given that it is going to be only either of these two who will form the next government in France, I won't be surprised at all if France's doors are closed to Muslim imigrants.

So France will abandon the Schengen Agreement?

Besides, have you looked at a map of Europe lately? Unlike the British Isles, where there exists a natural border between the UK and Europe (ie the sea), and unlike the USA where apart from the land borders with Canada and Mexico, and Trumps is building a wall between the USA and Mexico anyway, it is also surrounded by oceans, France has land borders with Italy, Spain, Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Monaco and Andorra. Do you think France will build walls all along those borders as Trump is doing with Mexico?

You need to avoid reading the Daily Fail for all your news input.

 

[WebGuru]

France has more Muslims than Canada, the USA and Australia combined. Germany has almost the same (especially after the arrival of a million or so Syrian refugees) And you think France can/will ban Muslims from entering?

Figures are for 2010, ie already 7 years out of date. Current numbers will much higher, especially after the arrival of millions of Syrian refugees since then.

I know there are many Muslims in France specially from muslim african countries there are millions but the things that happened in last couple of years over there are changing the mindset of govt it was pretty clear and right wingers are getting strong in EU. I am not saying they are going to kickout the muslims living there but i can see them following the path of US to stop more muslims from entering in near future.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Never say "won't", there is nothing like "won't" in history ... Was US exception to what you mean by "pluralist liberal democracies"?. I read that in Netherlands also, now Dutch nationalists on the rise ... I think in future, this will be a rising trend in Europe.

Earlier, immigration was mostly for economic reasons and for higher education and so on. Now, immigration is mostly happening in the shape of refugees, due to reasons like war and displacement due to internal strife/sectarian disturbances and so on. In these times, even when a minuscule percentage of refugees are behind terror activities, then it will paint a different picture to the natives, who will be ready to think all refugees as danger to their society. I'm not sure of exact statistics, but I assume the percentage of refugees to Europe might have drastically increased in the last decade or so, compared to earlier times.

History has shown, when there are cases of huge unemployment, stagnant economy, huge gulf between rich and poor, massive corruption, the stage is set for rise of nationalism. They will be looking for easy scapegoat to fix all of their problems, and in this case it will be refugees. People are in desperate situation during those times, and will be easily swayed by emotion rather than analytical thinking. So I suspect, European countries too will see such trend, may not be right away but in future.

Perhaps European countries might shun involvement in wars in the middle east in that case. As NATO has been heavily involved in the war in Syria, it has become hard to justify refusing refugees since part of the reason they are being displaced is because we are bombing them.

Yes the wars are being fought anyway, but if we stepped back then we could justifiably say the fallout from the war is not our responsibility. It should be Russia's more than anyone else, and for the war in Yemen, the Saudis and Iran must take responsibility for war refugees.

 

[cricketfanfirst]

Perhaps European countries might shun involvement in wars in the middle east in that case. As NATO has been heavily involved in the war in Syria, it has become hard to justify refusing refugees since part of the reason they are being displaced is because we are bombing them.

Yes the wars are being fought anyway, but if we stepped back then we could justifiably say the fallout from the war is not our responsibility. It should be Russia's more than anyone else, and for the war in Yemen, the Saudis and Iran must take responsibility for war refugees.

Absolutely, wars are being fought in various places, primarily are due to intervention of western powers and also regional powers vying for superiority and hold in those places.

Not sure, there is any single cut short-term solution for this, Western military establishment is a huge industry, which will ensure its foothold is not disturbed, so not easy to avoid these wars.

Ultimately, the only way to fight off these is with education, at least this will give the population ideas to fight corrupt governments and overcome religious divide or sectarian divide and work towards nation building. Anything else, will be short term solution and will not provide strategic results in the long run. Iran is not a bad example in this, with regards to education and progress. Of course, it is countering Saudi in Syria and fighting a proxy war. But at least, every Middle East nation tries to be as independent as Iran, may be they will not be in the hold of Western powers and at least there will be some chance of overcoming regional issues which mainly stem from sectarian divide/tribal divide.

 

[gani999]

So France will abandon the Schengen Agreement?

Besides, have you looked at a map of Europe lately? Unlike the British Isles, where there exists a natural border between the UK and Europe (ie the sea), and unlike the USA where apart from the land borders with Canada and Mexico, and Trumps is building a wall between the USA and Mexico anyway, it is also surrounded by oceans, France has land borders with Italy, Spain, Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Monaco and Andorra. Do you think France will build walls all along those borders as Trump is doing with Mexico?

You need to avoid reading the Daily Fail for all your news input.

Easy there. Don't take the high road. Others will follow.

Do you really think that the only way to avoid immigration is to have oceans or walls around the country, or that countries with multiple land borders cannot control immigration?

It all depends on the policy the government of a country has towards refugees and immigrants. Welcome them and they will come, land border or not.

The reason why Germany and Sweden have so many refugees compared to the others has nothing to do with their land borders, but everything to do with their open door refugee and immigration policy. Remove that, and the numbers will drop drastically. like Denmark did recently.

And yes, abandoning the Schengan is very much on Le Pen's agenda.

 

[enkidu_]

I hope all of the west bans all the muslim countries and cut off all ties with them.

They wont do it though. The will keep the doors open for all countries they can exploit.

Asia and Africa should get rid off few Western powers (USA, UK and France namely) who are still into imperialistic predation. They kill millions and steal their wealth but then have the cynicism to summon lofty ideals when it comes to accept few thousands of refugees (there would have been no "refugee crisis" without the methodic destitution of colonel Qadhâfi and destruction of socialist Libya).

China's OROB project, which tries to revive the old Silk Road with Russia, is creating a new geopolitical chess where all of this is possible (autonomous regional economic integration).

 

[imrankhannsu]

Banning muslims to enter the UK will be quite difficult like the drastic thing that happened in USA. However things will get more difficult to enter when one applies for a visa.

But maybe these kind of drastic measures might happen in other parts of Europe where right wing politicans might be taking majority hold of the parliment.

 

[the Great Khan]

its only a matter of time. Once they have found a way around their own laws they will do it. I find it pathetic that they talk about human rights and do more but cant handle a few refugees.

 

[Robert]

Never say "won't", there is nothing like "won't" in history ... Was US exception to what you mean by "pluralist liberal democracies"?. I read that in Netherlands also, now Dutch nationalists on the rise ... I think in future, this will be a rising trend in Europe.

Once we get out of the aftereffects of the Great Recession, nationalism will die down again.

 

[The_KING]

Will eventually happen unfortunately.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Right now there is no chance in the UK but in a couple of decades, very much possible.

 

[s28]

Right now there is no chance in the UK but in a couple of decades, very much possible.

By that time London and Birmingham likely to be 25% and 50% Muslim so I doubt it.

 

[troodon]

The anti-Muslim sentiment is at an all time high all across the world. Many right wing parties are gaining over liberals.
People in US voted Trump knowing very well his anti-Muslim stance. This is in one of the most liberal and developed countries in the world.

 

[90MPH]

The anti-Muslim sentiment is at an all time high all across the world. Many right wing parties are gaining over liberals.
People in US voted Trump knowing very well his anti-Muslim stance. This is in one of the most liberal and developed countries in the world.

It's not that simple.

As Robert says there has been a recession in Europe and America so when there are less jobs there will be more resentment. Syrian refugees or immigrants are an easy target for these right wing parties to shift the blame and say they taking your jobs.

As far as terrorist attacks go the reality is someone in the USA will be 50 times more likely be run over by a bus.

Once the economy turns the tide these parties will go underground again.

Trump didn't elected on his anti Muslim stance alone but many other aspects especially jobs.

That said Trump has one of the all time lowerst approval ratings for a new president and he lost the popular vote for a distance. He doesn't have the mandate like he thinks he does.

 

[QazzarFan]

I hope all of the west bans all the muslim countries and cut off all ties with them.

They wont do it though. The will keep the doors open for all countries they can exploit.

Right like the Muslims don't do any kind of exploiting. Delusion grandeur. Without oil these "muslim" countries will wither and die away so they need West as much as West needs them.

 

[QazzarFan]

Rise of rightwing is simply due to people are tired of being pushed around and exploited by the hypocrite extremists living amongst them and exploiting all kinds of loophole in the law and order supported by the liberals. Even most peaceful European secular countries are tired and looking to choose anyone who would represent their interests.

 

[90MPH]

Rise of rightwing is simply due to people are tired of being pushed around and exploited by the hypocrite extremists living amongst them and exploiting all kinds of loophole in the law and order supported by the liberals. Even most peaceful European secular countries are tired and looking to choose anyone who would represent their interests.

There is no facist government In power in Western Europe. And most Likely there will not be, no matter what Fox News tells you.

But yes sure there is one in near where you live who is a complete joke of a president.

 

[enkidu_]

By that time London and Birmingham likely to be 25% and 50% Muslim so I doubt it.

Budapest, the capital of Hungary, from where mastermind of secular Zionism, Theodor Herzl, would come from, was once called "Judapest" for its high percentage of Jews (25%). It was higher in many parts of Galicia (the region encompassing modern day Poland and Ukraine).

It was before WWII.

Do you know what happened to these Jews ?

 

[QazzarFan]

There is no facist government In power in Western Europe. And most Likely there will not be, no matter what Fox News tells you.

But yes sure there is one in near where you live who is a complete joke of a president.

Ya you say that now...10-15 yrs things will change dramatically. No one thought Trump would win, but he did.

 

[s28]

Budapest, the capital of Hungary, from where mastermind of secular Zionism, Theodor Herzl, would come from, was once called "Judapest" for its high percentage of Jews (25%). It was higher in many parts of Galicia (the region encompassing modern day Poland and Ukraine).

It was before WWII.

Do you know what happened to these Jews ?

lol is that a threat ?

 

[enkidu_]

Right like the Muslims don't do any kind of exploiting. Delusion grandeur. Without oil these "muslim" countries will wither and die away so they need West as much as West needs them.

Islamic countries are homes to the world's oldest civilizations, and were for centuries the beating heart of the Silk road - that China is trying to revive, and a partnership with China (or Russia) is very much possible (China is already Saudi Arabia's main oil consumer, and Putin, belonging to the "Slavophile" intellectual movement, is turning towards the East, as we can see in his policies concerning Syria). The Islamic world doesn't need the West, like it never needed it for centuries (that's the reason it never went beyond the Alps in the Middle Ages ; there was nothing).

Our own Indian civilization was at civilizational height and economic prosperity while they barely had a functional alphabet.

If Westerners, or more specifically some of its epochal predators (USA, UK and France), instead of methodically destroying all progressive regional states, let them grow, you'll see it by yourself.

Not only the 'ummah. The whole of Asia and Africa should redirect itself towards economic integration which would make sure that Satanic American/English/French powers are booted out forever. From the Europeans let's ally with the rest, especially the Germans.

Rise of rightwing is simply due to people are tired of being pushed around and exploited by the hypocrite extremists living amongst them and exploiting all kinds of loophole in the law and order supported by the liberals. Even most peaceful European secular countries are tired and looking to choose anyone who would represent their interests.

You're right, but then so what of Iraqis (to take one group), who have gone through economic sanctions killing children by the thousands and then an illegal invasion ? That have been "exploited" some thousands times more (and by foreign politicians) ? Do they then got "radicalized" because they opened the Qur'an, or can we rationalize it too ?

 

[QazzarFan]

Playing devil's advocate here:

Sixteen Muslim countries forbid admission PERMANENTLY to Israeli passport holders purely on RELIGIOUS basis and nobody protests. Why the hypocrisy?

 

[Black Zero]

Playing devil's advocate here:

Sixteen Muslim countries forbid admission PERMANENTLY to Israeli passport holders purely on RELIGIOUS basis and nobody protests. Why the hypocrisy?

Israel is not recognized by those countries yet.

However, non muslims are not allowed to enter hijaz.

 

[Syed1]

I think instead of worrying about Muslim immigration ban, us Muslims should first worry about eliminating extremist Islam and Islamic terrorism.

 

[PakLFC]

I think instead of worrying about Muslim immigration ban, us Muslims should first worry about eliminating extremist Islam and Islamic terrorism.

Better still we should ask why Muslim's turn to extremism? It doesn't help when they are being butchered in Kashmir, Iraq, Palestine, Chechnya, Afghanistan and much of Africa by Christians, Jews and Hindus. Muslim's also have to get rid of the divisions between them and get rid of their corrupt sell out leaders who don't care about them. Why does the world never condemn or speak when Muslim's are being killed by non-Muslim armies in millions?? That is never called Hindu or Christian terrorism by the mainstream media.

 

[s28]

 

[pillionrider]

Playing devil's advocate here:

Sixteen Muslim countries forbid admission PERMANENTLY to Israeli passport holders purely on RELIGIOUS basis and nobody protests. Why the hypocrisy?

Exactly.

Not sure why the Trump order is being made out to be a Muslim ban. Muslims from India, Pakistan, Indonesia and a host of Muslim-strong countries are currently welcome in the US.

 

[s28]

Must be tough for those people on this site who don't understand plain English

Giuliani "When He First Announced It He Said MUSLIM BAN Then He Said Show Me How To Do This Legally"

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[pillionrider]

Must be tough for those people on this site who don't understand plain English

Giuliani "When He First Announced It He Said MUSLIM BAN Then He Said Show Me How To Do This Legally"

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NF2k11QQW0g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Hmmm, alright.

Hilarious video though. Now I can understand the reasons Fox are much mocked.

 

[KingKhanWC]

By that time London and Birmingham likely to be 25% and 50% Muslim so I doubt it.

This may support my feelings. More Muslims, more wars , more Islamaphobia could bring in a right wing government or a right wing leader into perhaps the Tory party. The war on terror which is actually a war on Islam is still in it's early stages, much worse is to come for Muslims around the world.

 

[Varun]

I would also say that Muslims might be seen as relatively expendable commodities in some countries, in the sense that, there really isn't a particular area of expertise they can relate to and one that the nation in question can't do without.

This is different to the Israeli/Jewish lobby in the United states say, or Indians in the IT industry, or the Japanese in hardware. The closest correlation that the Muslim countries possess is probably oil in the Gulf states, but the less said about that the better.

 

[Tekcirc]

Exactly.

Not sure why the Trump order is being made out to be a Muslim ban. Muslims from India, Pakistan, Indonesia and a host of Muslim-strong countries are currently welcome in the US.

Any Muslim with $$$ is free to come across the Wall

 

[Pollack]

Don't see that happening in UK. Europe is a possibility.

 

[The_KING]

If terrorism in the Muslim community doesn't end, then there is a possibility that it could happen. Unfortunately many of us innocent Muslims will suffer because of extremists.

 

[shaykh]

A hypothetical question...

If there was a state that decided on a 'Final Solution' do you think a Muslim state would intervene?...

 

[enkidu_]

A hypothetical question...

If there was a state that decided on a 'Final Solution' do you think a Muslim state would intervene?...

Yes. The Gulf would provide the money to fasten it.

What happened when Anglo Saxon and French neo crusaders methodically destroyed Islamic and Arab states ? Nothing.

 

[FearlessRoar]

UK watchdog bans ‘offensive’ adverts showing banknotes in flames​

The UK’s advertising watchdog has banned a campaign by an online investment company predominantly targeting Muslims that featured images of euros and US dollars and the words “The United States of America” in flames alongside a call to “join the money revolution”.

Wahed Invest Ltd, an online investment platform, ran six posters on various Transport for London (TfL) services, including the London Underground and on buses, last September and October.

The posters featured dollars, including the words “The United States of America”, and euros on fire with text stating “Join the Money Revolution”.

The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) said the ads would have been seen by many people, including visitors from the US and eurozone countries. The authority received 75 complaints that the campaign was offensive.

In its response to the ASA’s investigation, Wahed said that its platform allowed consumers who were predominantly Muslim to invest in an ethical manner which aligned with their faith and values, a major component of which was not charging consumers interest on loans.

The company said the burning of banknotes was designed to be a powerful visual illustration to show that when inflation grew faster than the rate of savings money was akin to “going up in flames”.

A poster stated: “Charging people to borrow money was once called exploitation. Sadly, that perception has changed and now interest has caused a massive wealth gap, enriching the few while the majority get poorer. Join the growing community moving their money to a fairer system.”

Wahed, which launched in the US in 2017 and is backed by the oil company Saudi Aramco and the French footballer Paul Pogba, said it believed all viewers of the ads, not just Muslims, would have understood that expression and that the campaign did not criticise specific groups.

The ASA said the UK code of advertising practice stated that adverts must not contain anything that was likely to cause serious or widespread offence.

The ASA said the advert’s appearance on London transport was an untargeted medium and they were likely to be seen by travellers and holidaymakers.

It said: “Although we acknowledged Wahed Invest’s view that they had not directly criticised a specific group, and that depictions of burning banknotes were commonly encountered, we considered the burning of banknotes would have caused serious offence to some viewers.”

The ASA banned the ad campaign, concluding it was likely to cause serious offence.

UK watchdog bans ‘offensive’ adverts showing banknotes in flames

ASA acts on poster campaign by Wahed, urging people to join a ‘money revolution’, after receiving 75 complaints

www.theguardian.com

 

[sweep_shot]

Banning a particular group may only happen in third world countries and perhaps Eastern Europe (these countries are also like third world countries).

 

[Champ_Pal]

No one can ban a religion. There is no special test to determine if one is a Muslim or not.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Banning a particular group may only happen in third world countries and perhaps Eastern Europe (these countries are also like third world countries).

The closest to banning a bunch of people based on their religion came from Prophet’s time. Even then I doubt if all of the Jews were kicked out. It’s impossible to drive out every person of certain religion out of a certain region.

Umar (RAA) narrated, ‘I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say, “I will certainly expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian Peninsula so as to leave only Muslims in it.” Reported by Muslim.

Hadith - Jihad - Bulugh al-Maram - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

’Umar (RAA) narrated, ‘I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say, “I will certainly expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian Peninsula so as to leave only Muslims in it.” Reported by Muslim.

sunnah.com

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The closest to banning a bunch of people based on their religion came from Prophet’s time. Even then I doubt if all of the Jews were kicked out. It’s impossible to drive out every person of certain religion out of a certain region.

Umar (RAA) narrated, ‘I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say, “I will certainly expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian Peninsula so as to leave only Muslims in it.” Reported by Muslim.

Hadith - Jihad - Bulugh al-Maram - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

’Umar (RAA) narrated, ‘I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say, “I will certainly expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian Peninsula so as to leave only Muslims in it.” Reported by Muslim.

sunnah.com

I thought the most recent example of a a religion being banned was when the Nazis tried to ban the Jews? Or does exterminating them not count?

 

[Champ_Pal]

I thought the most recent example of a a religion being banned was when the Nazis tried to ban the Jews? Or does exterminating them not count?

That counts too.

 

[Farhan The Man]

No one can ban a religion. There is no special test to determine if one is a Muslim or not.

You spoke too soon.

Bet these munafiqs are to gladly ditch their "muslim" label when -- not if -- deportation orders come into effect. None want return to native lands with "islamic" prefixes.

These hypocrites only want others to live in restrictive societies, whilst themselves enjoy comfort and freedom of western, judeo-christian civilizations. Aka The first world.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You spoke too soon.

Bet these munafiqs are to gladly ditch their "muslim" label when -- not if -- deportation orders come into effect. None want return to native lands with "islamic" prefixes.

These hypocrites only want others to live in restrictive societies, whilst themselves enjoy comfort and freedom of western, judeo-christian civilizations. Aka The first world.

That would make sense as they probably left their own countries for economic reasons not religious. I have often said the same thing myself, most Muslims are economic migrants, although many recent ones are genuine refugees fleeing countries where proxy wars are being fought out over resources.

I guess you could call them hypocrites, but then you would have to say the same about Hindus who scarper from India while packing out arenas around the world to laud Modi's drive to return to a Hindu Rashtra.

Or Anglo Saxons who bemoan the loss of British culture while running off to Spain or Australia to escape the miserable British weather.