Can Inzamam-ul-Haq be a good batting coach for the Pakistani team?

[Savak]

In the past Inzi was hesitant to get involved in the batting coach role because he was of the opinion that it would be inappropriate for him to be involved in that role with the vast majority of the players being players he captained and played with

But now there is only Malik and Hafeez who are on their last legs and are going to be gone after the 2019 ODI World Cup.

Inzi made an impact as coach of the Afghanistan team. I just feel he is being wasted as chief selector and would be better suited as the batting coach.

Plus who better to teach the guys about modern Cricket batting in all formats of the game than Inzi who had all the gears at his disposal. A masterful pacer of the innings, strike rotator and going beserk at the end.

 

[Bhaijaan]

It’s not about the stature of the coach as ex player.

For instance, Sanjay Bangar is the batting coach of India.

 

[Theo_14]

He’s struggling to be a good selector!

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Hire someone like Mahela Jayawardena or Damien Martyn.

 

[Hasan123]

He will make a better batting coaching than selector.

 

[Hawkeye]

Yes, he can be.

1000x better than Grant Flower. Our folks would understand him.

 

[qayyum khan]

Those who are saying inzmam is not a good selector if you look in pakistan team any batsman or bowler who do well in domestic is given chances like shoaib maqsood, babr azam, imam, shamiaslam, sharjeel, fakhar, haris sohail, mohd rizwan, but the problem is in these batsman they dont work hard after coming to international cricket.
Each of above mentioned player had beem discussed a lot here that some of them are next inzmam or saeed anwar

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Said it two years back: Inzi would a lot more being a batting consultant than selector.

Someone like Rashid or Amir Sohail should have been the selector. Guys who understand Pak domestic and watch domestic games closely.

 

[MMHS]

Ul Haq will be far better batting Coach than this ZIM guy, who is there for much longer
than I am in Canada - and I have adopted Canada much better than what he has in PAK!!!!! Haven't seen any significant improvement to most PAK batsman in last 5 years to be honest. Even then Fakhar has mentioned Arthur more than his batting coach, while entire team is lacking batting confidence, struggling to rotate strike & hit sweetly, and most of them are spin bunny.

And, Ul Haq definitely will be faaar better batting coach than the CS he is. At least, as a batting coach he'll have to do some physical work.

 

[Mamoon]

Flower is getting far too comfortable in his job. He has been there since 2014 and I would like a bit more insight into his training methods and what his plans are for each individual batsman.

There doesn’t seem to be any appraisal and rarely talks to the media. He seems to be coasting through his contract and collect his paycheck. I find his motivation questionable.

 

[ads101]

Think we need a balance of home coaches and foreign. It's fine to have an away head coach, but think our coaching staff should also have a few coaches who are very familiar with asian conditions. As evidenced by Mickey's job in asia/UAE, he's pretty hesitant playing 2 spinners as it just isn't done in non-asian conditions.

Even Azhar, he has played in England for a long time and has more knowledge of those conditions than UAE. I think he deserved quite a bit of credit for CT in England, he got the bowling plans spot on there. In Asia/UAE he's struggling more.

It makes sense to switch Grant given we've tried him for years now, and Mickey should be able to provide expertise on the batting side in western conditions. You could hire an asian batting coach. Regardless though, it seems a good idea to hire a full time asian spin coach.

Inzi might make a difference in batting, but he's doing a rather good job selection wise. People hate on him, but in recent years there's been a huge influx of talented players, who are doing well upon initial selection to the team. Abbas is just another great selection, who could well have not been selected by previous selectors. The fault resides on players regressing, being worked out, not proving. But that blame is on coaches, players, not on the selector.

 

[Syed1]

Team selection tou ho nahi rahi ossay

 

[MMHS]

Flower is getting far too comfortable in his job. He has been there since 2014 and I would like a bit more insight into his training methods and what his plans are for each individual batsman.

There doesn’t seem to be any appraisal and rarely talks to the media. He seems to be coasting through his contract and collect his paycheck. I find his motivation questionable.

At International level, he is not supposed to teach batsmen High elbow, steady head, eye on ball, toe in line ..... For 3-4 years now Babar is struggling against spin, particularly off spin, and every PAK batsmen are being exposed in their weak points time & again; therefore don't know exactly what he is bringing here. For arranging nets, there are several local coaches who can do it at much lower cost.

 

[Savak]

Flower is getting far too comfortable in his job. He has been there since 2014 and I would like a bit more insight into his training methods and what his plans are for each individual batsman.

There doesn’t seem to be any appraisal and rarely talks to the media. He seems to be coasting through his contract and collect his paycheck. I find his motivation questionable.

I have to agree with this. I believe he fully encashed on the PCB desperation to have a foreign coach. Younis Khan mentioned he works hard with every player in the nets and tries his best but no player has massively improved by leaps and bounds. Strike rotation is still a massive problem in all formats of the game

I just suspect that he has given all that he could to the role and he is unlikely to have any more stellar out of the box ideas

 

[Savak]

Flower is getting far too comfortable in his job. He has been there since 2014 and I would like a bit more insight into his training methods and what his plans are for each individual batsman.

There doesn’t seem to be any appraisal and rarely talks to the media. He seems to be coasting through his contract and collect his paycheck. I find his motivation questionable.

At International level, he is not supposed to teach batsmen High elbow, steady head, eye on ball, toe in line ..... For 3-4 years now Babar is struggling against spin, particularly off spin, and every PAK batsmen are being exposed in their weak points time & again; therefore don't know exactly what he is bringing here. For arranging nets, there are several local coaches who can do it at much lower cost.

To say a good coach cannot make positive technical differences to players is not true. The likes of Mohd Yousaf and Younis Khan credit Bob Woolmer massively for fixing their techniques and technical short comings

 

[Mamoon]

I have to agree with this. I believe he fully encashed on the PCB desperation to have a foreign coach. Younis Khan mentioned he works hard with every player in the nets and tries his best but no player has massively improved by leaps and bounds. Strike rotation is still a massive problem in all formats of the game

I just suspect that he has given all that he could to the role and he is unlikely to have any more stellar out of the box ideas

Younis can be great batting coach but I would prefer someone who truly understands Limited Overs batting. Younis can improve the young players against spin, but he never developed the skills required for modern cricket. PCB should look for a coach who not only has expertise in playing spin and playing in Asia, but is also not out of depth when it comes to modern cricket.

An Indian would never coach Pakistan so the next best bet would be a Sri Lankan. Sangakkara has transitioned into commentary, but Jayawardene has taken up coaching assignments. He would be a great choice.

 

[MMHS]

To say a good coach cannot make positive technical differences to players is not true. The likes of Mohd Yousaf and Younis Khan credit Bob Woolmer massively for fixing their techniques and technical short comings

That's preciously what I am saying - high elbow, steady head ............... is basic fundamentals of batting. Woolmer made good Test batsmen MoYo & YK into world class Test batsmen, but even to average 30 in Test one must have high elbow, steady head ....

At highest level, it's about countering situations/bowlers/playing condition - which I don't see much improvement.

 

[Savak]

Flower is getting far too comfortable in his job. He has been there since 2014 and I would like a bit more insight into his training methods and what his plans are for each individual batsman.

There doesn’t seem to be any appraisal and rarely talks to the media. He seems to be coasting through his contract and collect his paycheck. I find his motivation questionable.

Younis can be great batting coach but I would prefer someone who truly understands Limited Overs batting. Younis can improve the young players against spin, but he never developed the skills required for modern cricket. PCB should look for a coach who not only has expertise in playing spin and playing in Asia, but is also not out of depth when it comes to modern cricket.

An Indian would never coach Pakistan so the next best bet would be a Sri Lankan. Sangakkara has transitioned into commentary, but Jayawardene has taken up coaching assignments. He would be a great choice.

Inzi is a better choice than Jaywardene atleast. I think he can connect better with the language barrier out of the window and the fact he was a masterful strike rotator and even more importantly was very good at shifting gears. Even when wickets would fall in heap, he would not let the run rate suffer

 

[Markhor]

I don't know whether Inzamam is someone who can break down a batsman's technique and assist with addressing technical flaws in a player. Where he excelled as a batsman was his ability to work out which bowlers to target, knowing his scoring areas and how to plan an innings.

The suggestion of Mahela is a good one. Given the sheer amount of cricket we've played against Sri Lanka he'll be familiar with many of our batsmen and understands how to succeed in Asian conditions. Tactically he was a very astute captain too.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

His involvement with LQ didn't really help our batters much tbh. He may or may not, but I don't think he's the one who will fix our batters.

We should look to hire someone like Murray Goodwin, think he can do a pretty good job and understands modern cricket.

 

[Rayyman]

Those suggesting Jayawardene should realize he got shot last time he was in Pakistan.

 

[Shafi]

Flower is getting far too comfortable in his job. He has been there since 2014 and I would like a bit more insight into his training methods and what his plans are for each individual batsman.

There doesn’t seem to be any appraisal and rarely talks to the media. He seems to be coasting through his contract and collect his paycheck. I find his motivation questionable.

Ul Haq will be far better batting Coach than this ZIM guy, who is there for much longer
than I am in Canada - and I have adopted Canada much better than what he has in PAK!!!!! Haven't seen any significant improvement to most PAK batsman in last 5 years to be honest. Even then Fakhar has mentioned Arthur more than his batting coach, while entire team is lacking batting confidence, struggling to rotate strike & hit sweetly, and most of them are spin bunny.

And, Ul Haq definitely will be faaar better batting coach than the CS he is. At least, as a batting coach he'll have to do some physical work.

What can Flower do if our selector doesn't select right players for right formats. Plus our batsmen are not that good either to have ability to learn.

 

[Justcrazy]

He will be a very good mentor for younger players , a batting mentor.

 

[Savak]

What can Flower do if our selector doesn't select right players for right formats. Plus our batsmen are not that good either to have ability to learn.

Flower has been given good resources like Umar Akmal, Ahmed Shehzad, Sohaib Maqsood, Asad Shafiq, Azhar Ali, Haris Sohail, Imam ul Haq, Usman Sallahudin, Umar Amin, Fakhar Zaman, Babar Azam.

I think he can't contribute anything more. Time to get someone else in with more fresh ideas

 

[New Yorker]

Better he be coach than selector!

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Younis Khan would be better.

 

[FastBowlingAllrounder]

To say a good coach cannot make positive technical differences to players is not true. The likes of Mohd Yousaf and Younis Khan credit Bob Woolmer massively for fixing their techniques and technical short comings

Yes coaches can improve the technique of a player even at international level, but the problem with our batsmen seems to be that there are many situations in which they get tied down by good bowling, or are chasing a big total, and don't have the right mindset. There have been many situations in the Asia Cup for example where our batsmen didn't have the technique and mindset to do things like rotate the strike or manipulate the field to get quick runs.

 

[FastBowlingAllrounder]

Actually, now that it's been brought up, Flower really has been getting away with a lack of extravagant improvements in the batting department for some time now.