Can PSL become the second biggest Twenty20 league?

[cricketjoshila]

Ok, post me the numbers for everything you have just said from official sources.

Lol. So you think PCB earns more in sponsorship than CA and ECB do in Australian dollars and British pounds? Lol.

Please show any proof of PCB making more money than ECB or CA. If it was true,PCB would be in Big 3. PCBs tv deals are contingent on India tours.

Here is the attendance record of bbl.

https://www.totalsportek.com/list/sports-league-with-highest-average-attendance/

 

[USofA]

Lol. So you think PCB earns more in sponsorship than CA and ECB do in Australian dollars and British pounds? Lol.

Please show any proof of PCB making more money than ECB or CA. If it was true,PCB would be in Big 3. PCBs tv deals are contingent on India tours.

Here is the attendance record of bbl.

https://www.totalsportek.com/list/sports-league-with-highest-average-attendance/

CA struck a new 6 year deal for $1.3 billion for all cricket broadcast. The ECB has a new 5 year deal for $1.4 billion for all cricket.

The IPL deal alone for BCCI is worth $2.6 billion. International deal is separate.

For the PCB, their PSL tv rights of three year $15 million has ended. Have to see what kind of deal they negotiate for the future. The PCB's international tv rights is a well known saga. The 5 year $150 million deal is lopsidedly dependent on the BCCI. So much that the PCB will only get about $60 million of it through 2020.

All numbers are of course in US$.

 

[cricketjoshila]

CA struck a new 6 year deal for $1.3 billion for all cricket broadcast. The ECB has a new 5 year deal for $1.4 billion for all cricket.

The IPL deal alone for BCCI is worth $2.6 billion. International deal is separate.

For the PCB, their PSL tv rights of three year $15 million has ended. Have to see what kind of deal they negotiate for the future. The PCB's international tv rights is a well known saga. The 5 year $150 million deal is lopsidedly dependent on the BCCI. So much that the PCB will only get about $60 million of it through 2020.

All numbers are of course in US$.

That CA deal of 1.3bn is in AUD i think. USD is 900plusmn. Can you please confirm?

 

[USofA]

That CA deal of 1.3bn is in AUD i think. USD is 900plusmn. Can you please confirm?

You are right. My bad. It's about US$800 million.

 

[barah_admi]

Lol. So you think PCB earns more in sponsorship than CA and ECB do in Australian dollars and British pounds? Lol.

Please show any proof of PCB making more money than ECB or CA. If it was true,PCB would be in Big 3. PCBs tv deals are contingent on India tours.

Here is the attendance record of bbl.

https://www.totalsportek.com/list/sports-league-with-highest-average-attendance/

I didn't say the boards earn more overall, I SPECIFICALLY spoke about the PSL and its finances. You have failed to provide any evidence for a 2nd post in a row. I know you lot lie a lot but its a bit embarrassing.

 

[Hedz]

IPL
BBL
Vitality blast
PSL
CPL
BPL

In that order

Vitality Blast is defo not better than PSL
I live in England and most of the time you don’t even know the tournament has started
No excitement no buzz, crowds dead in some of the games I’ve seen

Would put CPL over Vitality Blast aswell

 

[cricketjoshila]

I didn't say the boards earn more overall, I SPECIFICALLY spoke about the PSL and its finances. You have failed to provide any evidence for a 2nd post in a row. I know you lot lie a lot but its a bit embarrassing.

So PSL earns more than Bbl?

Have a look above at the posts of [MENTION=141580]USofA[/MENTION] .

PSL second richest. Lol. Not yet.

 

[barah_admi]

So PSL earns more than Bbl?

Have a look above at the posts of [MENTION=141580]USofA[/MENTION] .

PSL second richest. Lol. Not yet.

I'm not looking for anyone else's posts, show me the sources you have that show the players in the BBL make more money than they do in the PSL. It is very simple,.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I'm not looking for anyone else's posts, show me the sources you have that show the players in the BBL make more money than they do in the PSL. It is very simple,.

Where did i say anything about how much players make?

 

[Square Drive]

Yes. However, for that to happen, the IPL will have to overtake the PSL first.

 

[Pakhs]

What you say isnt true about foreign markets as the broadcasters there do not agree with you. They surely know the market a bit better, dont they?

For BBL you say foreign timings are not suitable and thats a problem. When i bring the issue of PSL not being telecasted in cricket's biggest market then you talk about the local market. Make up your mind.

Ofcourse domestic market is very important,for the survival of the league.

I said for popularity the BBL is not suitable due to timings. But it doesnt stop it from becoming a successful league which it already is at home. And the advantage PSL has is it can become popular in other countries but its not as important as the two factors mentioned above. These leagues are suppose to generate money for the home boards and for this the most important audience is the home audience. India is the biggest market but not for domestic leagues. BCCI would be a fool to let Indian market be exploited by foreign leagues even if it was a good market to target for other domestic leagues when the have their own IPL which they would like to go even higher in terms of success.

Hope this solves your confusion.

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

Let's see as to what has improved this season.

 

[nextover666666]

I would it be it second when it's already first each season has produced memorable matches and great moments it also help build our squad which won the CT finals

 

[Stalin]

Current ranking of leagues
IPL
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BBL
PSL
CPL
Blast
BPL
Mzansi

 

[Stalin]

PSL has all the potential to become the league which can compete neck and neck with the IPL. All it needs is to move it back completely to Pakistan.

 

[Rana]

Im not sure why Shahid Khan is investing in Professional wrestling paying the likes of Chris Jericho millions of dollars whereas he could well build a world class franchise in the PSL. One or two major investors and InshaAllah we will see some powerhouse franchises.

Fawad Rana sab has been brilliant the way he has delivered a superstar every year for his franchise.

 

[Savak]

Im not sure why Shahid Khan is investing in Professional wrestling paying the likes of Chris Jericho millions of dollars whereas he could well build a world class franchise in the PSL. One or two major investors and InshaAllah we will see some powerhouse franchises.

Fawad Rana sab has been brilliant the way he has delivered a superstar every year for his franchise.

Shahid Khan has zero interest, affiliation or sentiment with Pakistan. When someone asked him whether he made any donation to Pakistan's Dam fund, he expressed ignorance and admitted the same and as a token just gave $1,000. That should tell you everything on what to expect from him.

 

[Rana]

Shahid Khan has zero interest, affiliation or sentiment with Pakistan. When someone asked him whether he made any donation to Pakistan's Dam fund, he expressed ignorance and admitted the same and as a token just gave $1,000. That should tell you everything on what to expect from him.

Strange.

 

[Smudger]

Shahid Khan has zero interest, affiliation or sentiment with Pakistan. When someone asked him whether he made any donation to Pakistan's Dam fund, he expressed ignorance and admitted the same and as a token just gave $1,000. That should tell you everything on what to expect from him.

He has probably forgotten hia roots. Pretty sad. Even though I have moved to Canada but I will never forget my roots

 

[RyanRyan10]

With Pakistan's crumbling economy it doesn't seem so in the near future atleast

 

[ataullah]

Will there be a new team next year?

 

[Joseph Gomes]

I would like to bat for BPL as our economy is much stronger than Pakistan's. Esp projecting into 2025-2030. We are enjoying 7%+ growth and exports are high. PSL will not be able to compete with BPL in resource terms.

Cricket has very little correlation to economy.

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

Few talks already in the MT about PSL and where it stands

So Bump

 

[minamino]

First get rid of players like Sammy and Ronchi and then we can talk

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

PSL doing some good progress

PSL at home
Increase in the number of stadiums


Broadcasters

Sky
Sky NZ
Willow tv
Sony
Super sport


Few more to join

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

This is what I’d say

IPL
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BBL
PSL
CPL

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

Technically we are the 2nd biggest cricket market, and it really underpins our failure as a cricket nation that in spite of this, we are not one of the top 3 richest boards.

The new Government and board are going to change things around though and the signs are already there.
Later down the road I see the PSL becoming the bonafide 2nd best league in the world.

 

[AMSS]

Cricket in Pakistan has the same enabling factors as those available in India. A vast population, no rival sport, massive following etcetera. Hard to see how it can be anything but the second biggest league in this decade.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Cricket in Pakistan has the same enabling factors as those available in India. A vast population, no rival sport, massive following etcetera. Hard to see how it can be anything but the second biggest league in this decade.

Biggest enabling factor in India is economy. That transforms the other enabling factors into money, and money helps pull in top names who pull in bigger crowds, who provide more money.

Right now, PCB and PSL are doing their best, the rest depends on Imran Khan and Abdul Razzaq Dawood to rebuild our economy. Hopefully we see some good growth in a few years.

 

[UzmanBeast]

Biggest enabling factor in India is economy. That transforms the other enabling factors into money, and money helps pull in top names who pull in bigger crowds, who provide more money.

Right now, PCB and PSL are doing their best, the rest depends on Imran Khan and Abdul Razzaq Dawood to rebuild our economy. Hopefully we see some good growth in a few years.

In my opinion, PSL is on the verge of entering a phase where we'll see a lot of foreign stars and a lot of competition. Sooner or later, they'll have to add more teams and with more teams means that a lot of international players will be given opportunities to play.

However, if we want to see more international stars, we have to pay heaps of money. We need to be able to pay the kind of money IPL pays to its most prized stars, and that's the only way to bring in more foreign stars. Once you get that kind of money, there's a huge incentive for players to come to the PSL and make money from a relatively short tournament. High pay and not too long is exactly what foreign stars would be looking for, and if PSL can get it's own window where the least international cricket is happening, it would practically be stupid for international stars to avoid participating in it, especially if they have good chances of being picked by teams.

 

[Mesozoic]

Only if the PCB follows brother [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] 's advice and conducts it in the same window as the IPL.

You can't become a clear cut second best league without the presence of quality international pros and most of them will either be unavailable or wouldn't want to risk getting injured ahead of the IPL.

 

[Local.Dada]

The biggest challenge for PSL is not the international stars. That’s a wrong way of looking at it. You can afford the Warners,Gayle,Russells and AB’s of the world that won’t be the problem but when they rub shoulders with some of the Pakistani talent in the PSL the vibe is like a fun exhibition game.

IPL’s biggest asset is the Indian players themselves. MSD,Rohit,Virat,Bumrah,Hardik,Shami,Rahul now these are bonafide superstars. Add the Warners,Abs and Russels to the mix that raises the stakes of the tournament itself.

CPL right now has an edge or big bash because there are relatively bigger names in the T20 world who play with relatively big names. The WI tournament probably has the Who’s who of freelance T20
Superstar from WI. The Aussie BBL automatically has guys like Warner,Finch,Smith,Maxwell,Starc,Cummins,Hazelwood,Lyon,Labu if they are available and these guys are big names and unfortunately bigger names than Pakistani current players.

 

[Esfahani]

psl aint getting to number 2 in several years... it needs indian players to be successful honest but bitter truth.. pcb needs to man up and bring em in

 

[CanadianG00se]

psl aint getting to number 2 in several years... it needs indian players to be successful honest but bitter truth.. pcb needs to man up and bring em in

I think it’s the BCCI not allowing any current players to play in any T20 leagues beside IPL. PCB would love to have Indian players if they were allowed.

 

[Esfahani]

I think it’s the BCCI not allowing any current players to play in any T20 leagues beside IPL. PCB would love to have Indian players if they were allowed.

could be or could not be.. i think we are doing a mistake from keeping players like sreesanth or irfan pathan out who could have a spot in psl

 

[CanadianG00se]

could be or could not be.. i think we are doing a mistake from keeping players like sreesanth or irfan pathan out who could have a spot in psl

Sreesanth is currently playing in domestic which would make him ineligible to ply his trade in T20 leagues outside India whereas Pathan is has been and will add nothing to PSL. I think PSL is better of having Intl world class players which would not only make league standard higher but could also ignite interest among non-locals including us Indians. I would watch PSL if they have world class players like Warner, AB, Cummins, Archer, Butler etc than has been like Pathan and Sree..

 

[hitthestump]

could be or could not be.. i think we are doing a mistake from keeping players like sreesanth or irfan pathan out who could have a spot in psl

I doubt Pakistan would have a problem on their side regarding bringing someone like Yuvraj Singh or Suresh Raina into the PSL.

Obviously though the current Indian government would never allow it and plenty of "nationalist" Indians would probably try and murder them when they returned home.

 

[hitthestump]

The biggest challenge for PSL is not the international stars. That’s a wrong way of looking at it. You can afford the Warners,Gayle,Russells and AB’s of the world that won’t be the problem but when they rub shoulders with some of the Pakistani talent in the PSL the vibe is like a fun exhibition game.

IPL’s biggest asset is the Indian players themselves. MSD,Rohit,Virat,Bumrah,Hardik,Shami,Rahul now these are bonafide superstars. Add the Warners,Abs and Russels to the mix that raises the stakes of the tournament itself.

CPL right now has an edge or big bash because there are relatively bigger names in the T20 world who play with relatively big names. The WI tournament probably has the Who’s who of freelance T20
Superstar from WI. The Aussie BBL automatically has guys like Warner,Finch,Smith,Maxwell,Starc,Cummins,Hazelwood,Lyon,Labu if they are available and these guys are big names and unfortunately bigger names than Pakistani current players.

Yeah good point. You can't have too many Warner's and Boult's coming in to mix it up with Shan Masood and Naseem Shah.

I think Pakistan do need to look beyond the Salt's and Wiese's though, and try and attract some of the 'best of the rest' players who are solid internationals but don't quite make it to IPL.

 

[offstump]

We just can’t offer enough remuneration to attract top international talent. That’s not to say we won’t be able to, but psl is just moving out of the startup phase and holding the entire tournament in Pakistan will be a massive boost to revenues. Once that happens and top salaries are at minimum over $500k we will see more names make themselves available. I agree that our home grown talent is lacking, we really have no big names other than Babar and this is a massive issue.

 

[Esfahani]

Sreesanth is currently playing in domestic which would make him ineligible to ply his trade in T20 leagues outside India whereas Pathan is has been and will add nothing to PSL. I think PSL is better of having Intl world class players which would not only make league standard higher but could also ignite interest among non-locals including us Indians. I would watch PSL if they have world class players like Warner, AB, Cummins, Archer, Butler etc than has been like Pathan and Sree..

damn.. we. could be poached him... But Irfan Pathan is still an X factor ... fun to watch, has lots of history, and rare to see on screen these days

 

[Esfahani]

I doubt Pakistan would have a problem on their side regarding bringing someone like Yuvraj Singh or Suresh Raina into the PSL.

Obviously though the current Indian government would never allow it and plenty of "nationalist" Indians would probably try and murder them when they returned home.

yea thats true ... but i doubt government is gonna be over-reaching on keeping their players inside india... vice versa (Pakistanis coming to india & ipl i can understand)... if these players aren't playing in india, im sure many would be happy to see them playing (whether it be psl or not)

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

PSL will need to bring in big money in terms of their domestic TV deal and sponsorships. For that to happen, either the Pakistani economy needs to be strong which it isn't, or they need to attract Indian sponsors which is very difficult due to the political situation.

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

yea thats true ... but i doubt government is gonna be over-reaching on keeping their players inside india... vice versa (Pakistanis coming to india & ipl i can understand)... if these players aren't playing in india, im sure many would be happy to see them playing (whether it be psl or not)

PSL should sign a few Indian commentators like Sanjay Manjrekar, Harsha Bhogle, Ajay Jadeja and Ajit Agarkar who aren't contracted to the BCCI. Ramiz Raja used to do commentary for a few years in the IPL even while Pakistani players weren't playing.

 

[hitthestump]

PSL should sign a few Indian commentators like Sanjay Manjrekar, Harsha Bhogle, Ajay Jadeja and Ajit Agarkar who aren't contracted to the BCCI. Ramiz Raja used to do commentary for a few years in the IPL even while Pakistani players weren't playing.

Why, do they have a death wish or a desire never to be hired within India ever again?

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Not with most top international players missing from the PSL every year and having to make do with those semi retired or on their last legs looking to make easy money.

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

Why, do they have a death wish or a desire never to be hired within India ever again?

That's upto them to sign or not. PCB should make them the offer. Ravi Shastri and Sunil Gavaskar used to do commentary on Pakistan's matches in the 90s.

 

[Mesozoic]

At this rate no. Atleast not in the near future.

BBL is still comfortably better. I'll give PSL a benefit of doubt over CPL for the 3rd spot though.

 

[Savak]

The window has to change, if you have it just before the IPL, the top players will give it a miss as they want to be fully rested for the IPL

 

[observer1]

IPL has been marketed well by its sponsors. They have utilised very cheap access the massive population to make it profitable for players and owners.

PSL is, and should remain, it's own brand and entity. It's come a long way and is a well respected tournament.

People saying the BBL is better than the PSL are seriously deluded and ill informed. The BBL has been struggling to even get TV Coverage and it's main stars involved.

The earlier BBL seasons were family events and never a dedicated T20 Franchise. They've tried to push it towards the IPL and PSL models but have failed. The fact is, Australian cricket competes against other popular sports in Australia. A quick google will show how they're struggling for viewers.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Yeah, the BBL has regressed markedly since its peak audiences in 2016 and particularly since the increase to 59 matches in 2018-19. The PSL is competing with the CPL for the second biggest league right now.

 

[Mesozoic]

Oh my bad... I thought this thread was for the overall quality of the League. So it's just by viewership and attendances. Cool.

I guess Bangladesh premier League is better than Big B.......

 

[Last Monetarist]

Oh my bad... I thought this thread was for the overall quality of the League. So it's just by viewership and attendances. Cool.

I guess Bangladesh premier League is better than Big B.......

The best performers in the BBL recently have been Alex Hales, James Vince, and Dan Christian. You have definitely not been following the BBL closely at all. Go listen to the views of Australian experts on how much the BBL has suffered in quality. Channel 7 aren't at loggerheads with CA over the quality of the BBL for no reason.

 

[Mesozoic]

The best performers in the BBL recently have been Alex Hales, James Vince, and Dan Christian. You have definitely not been following the BBL closely at all. Go listen to the views of Australian experts on how much the BBL has suffered in quality. Channel 7 aren't at loggerheads with CA over the quality of the BBL for no reason.

I'm already aware of all this...

There was no way Big bash was not going to fall off from it's 2014-18 highs. Channel 7 were absolutely stupid to do what they ended up doing and they have only themselves to blame.

But even after all that, BBL (purely on cricketing terms) looks comfortably better than PSL. Their Add to that their better production, commentary...it won't even be a debate.

But yeah in terms of viewership and $$$, PSL must be second best for obvious reasons.

 

[Last Monetarist]

I'm already aware of all this...

There was no way Big bash was not going to fall off from it's 2014-18 highs. Channel 7 were absolutely stupid to do what they ended up doing and they have only themselves to blame.

But even after all that, BBL (purely on cricketing terms) looks comfortably better than PSL. Their Add to that their better production, commentary...it won't even be a debate.

But yeah in terms of viewership and $$$, PSL must be second best for obvious reasons.

Shane Watson, who works closely with the ACA, recently gave an interview to The Australian where he stated that the BBL has suffered a lot in comparison to the PSL ever since the increase in the number of matches. The fall in audience numbers in the BBL is primarily because of the decrease in quality.

The BBL isn't far off from the PSL and can reclaim second spot if they fix the scheduling whereby the top Australian players can participate.

 

[Savak]

So far the PSL has seen the consequences of a clash with BPL where the likes of Faf Du Plessis, Moen Ali, Chris Gayle, Sunil Narine, Colin Ingram have decided to give the PSL a miss and play in the BPL.

Imagine what will happen if the PSL clashes with the Emirates Cricket League which has a higher salary cap.

If this doesn't push the PCB and the PSL Franchises to desperately improve the Financials, Economics and Sponsorships in the league than nothing will.

The PCB has to choose the summer window for the PSL going forward because this time period from December to May is just to congested

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

With plans for Emirates league, In UAE which is location for foreign players to enjoy themselves as well, I see PSL slipping further down the charts.

 

[Artaxerxes]

PSL will still be a competitive league even if foreign players choose other leagues due to scheduling.The fewer foreign players in PSL the better.I don’t think the foreign players have any role in the development of local players.If you have talent then it will show.The likes of Abdullah Shafiq,Huraira,Dahani,Waseem jnr etc came through the local system.

 

[offstump]

PSL will still be a competitive league even if foreign players choose other leagues due to scheduling.The fewer foreign players in PSL the better.I don’t think the foreign players have any role in the development of local players.If you have talent then it will show.The likes of Abdullah Shafiq,Huraira,Dahani,Waseem jnr etc came through the local system.

PSL will not be successful without foreign players. This is a big part of any T20 league, if not then there’s no point in continuing with the PSL.

 

[Local.Dada]

PSL will still be a competitive league even if foreign players choose other leagues due to scheduling.The fewer foreign players in PSL the better.I don’t think the foreign players have any role in the development of local players.If you have talent then it will show.The likes of Abdullah Shafiq,Huraira,Dahani,Waseem jnr etc came through the local system.

If that’s the case what is the difference between domestic T20 competition and PSL?

Don’t all those young Pakistan players play in the domestic tournament too?

Foreign players are needed to get eyeballs and viewers. They are not there to train local Pakistan players.

As hardcore fans we know that guys like Gayle and AB have past their prime but the common viewer will still tune in to see them because of their brand. That’s why foreign names matter.

 

[Saj]

In what was another boost for the HBL Pakistan Super League, Trans Group International today submitted the highest bid, pursuant to a public tender process, for the brand partnership rights for a four-year-term, beginning in 2022 and stretching till 2025.

The brand partnership rights were divided into two categories: seven category rights and one umpire sponsorship rights.

In a highly competitive bidding process, Trans Group International submitted their bids for category rights and umpire sponsorship rights at mammoth increase of 219 and 168 per cent from the last deals.

PCB Chief Operating Officer and Bid Committee Chair Salman Naseer: “Trans Group International has been a supporter of HBL Pakistan Super League since its inception and I am thankful for the continuation of their immense support to the brand.

“Such substantial increase in the brand partnership rights highlights how big the brand of the HBL Pakistan Super League has become and I am sure the Pakistan cricket fans will enjoy the upcoming edition.”

Trans Group International Director Rao Omar Hashim Khan: “The HBL Pakistan Super League is arguably the biggest brand in Pakistan and it brings together all Pakistanis. We are proud to be once again partnering with the Pakistan Cricket Board for one of the most successful and exciting cricket leagues in the world. Our unwavering support for Pakistan Cricket knows no bounds.”

Earlier, a consortium of ARY and PTV submitted the bid for TV broadcast rights in Pakistan at an increase of 50 per cent, while Daraz submitted the bid for live-streaming in the country at a rise of 175 per cent from the last deal.

The seventh edition of HBL Pakistan Super League will kick off at Karachi’s National Stadium on 27 January when defending champions Multan Sultans play 2020 edition’s winners Karachi Kings. The event will conclude in Lahore on 27 February with the final at Gaddafi Stadium, Pakistan’s home of cricket.

 

[Savak]

In what was another boost for the HBL Pakistan Super League, Trans Group International today submitted the highest bid, pursuant to a public tender process, for the brand partnership rights for a four-year-term, beginning in 2022 and stretching till 2025.

The brand partnership rights were divided into two categories: seven category rights and one umpire sponsorship rights.

In a highly competitive bidding process, Trans Group International submitted their bids for category rights and umpire sponsorship rights at mammoth increase of 219 and 168 per cent from the last deals.

PCB Chief Operating Officer and Bid Committee Chair Salman Naseer: “Trans Group International has been a supporter of HBL Pakistan Super League since its inception and I am thankful for the continuation of their immense support to the brand.

“Such substantial increase in the brand partnership rights highlights how big the brand of the HBL Pakistan Super League has become and I am sure the Pakistan cricket fans will enjoy the upcoming edition.”

Trans Group International Director Rao Omar Hashim Khan: “The HBL Pakistan Super League is arguably the biggest brand in Pakistan and it brings together all Pakistanis. We are proud to be once again partnering with the Pakistan Cricket Board for one of the most successful and exciting cricket leagues in the world. Our unwavering support for Pakistan Cricket knows no bounds.”

Earlier, a consortium of ARY and PTV submitted the bid for TV broadcast rights in Pakistan at an increase of 50 per cent, while Daraz submitted the bid for live-streaming in the country at a rise of 175 per cent from the last deal.

The seventh edition of HBL Pakistan Super League will kick off at Karachi’s National Stadium on 27 January when defending champions Multan Sultans play 2020 edition’s winners Karachi Kings. The event will conclude in Lahore on 27 February with the final at Gaddafi Stadium, Pakistan’s home of cricket.

Geo has taken the PCB, PTV and ARY to Court challenging the legitimacy of the PCB Broadcast deal

 

[TeymurBlake]

The problem is, the revenue that comes from the PSL is divided poorly. PCB just gets 10%, which is worthless for them. Which basically means the owners get 90% of the revenue. This is pointless for PCB. Add to the fact that, these franchise owners don't want to spend a ton of money on foreign players. No major foreign player will come to Pakistan for $200,000, if they can get $600+ in about a month later in the IPL.

With Emirates T20 League and USA T20 League around the corner, the battle for the big players will become even more difficult for PSL. It seems like PSL will be forever in the shadow IPL and soon other T20 leagues.

 

[Savak]

The problem is, the revenue that comes from the PSL is divided poorly. PCB just gets 10%, which is worthless for them. Which basically means the owners get 90% of the revenue. This is pointless for PCB. Add to the fact that, these franchise owners don't want to spend a ton of money on foreign players. No major foreign player will come to Pakistan for $200,000, if they can get $600+ in about a month later in the IPL.

With Emirates T20 League and USA T20 League around the corner, the battle for the big players will become even more difficult for PSL. It seems like PSL will be forever in the shadow IPL and soon other T20 leagues.

The PSL Franchise owners want fast ROI's. They are hessitant to spend big and feel the Pakistani Market will not give them any ROI's. No one thinks if we spend $5-10 million and get big foreign players into the PSL, down the line it will reflect on the broadcasting and sponsorship deals.

Indian entreprenuers in comparison are willing to sacrifice their wallets for long term ROI's 5-10 years down the line.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pakistan Super league is the 2nd best T20 Tournament in the World .. it’s not far off the IPL either .. Outstanding standard of cricket .. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistan</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL</a></p>— Michael Vaughan (@MichaelVaughan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/1488534178744389644?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Savak]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pakistan Super league is the 2nd best T20 Tournament in the World .. it’s not far off the IPL either .. Outstanding standard of cricket .. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistan</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL</a></p>— Michael Vaughan (@MichaelVaughan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/1488534178744389644?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Vikrant Gupta from India acknowledged that even though IPL is miles ahead of all the T-20 leagues globally, PSL according to the data available had the second highest viewership in the world after the IPL. Pity though that the financials are no where close

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Franchise cricket should be looked at like it's what it's meant to be. Entertainment and money.

Entertainment factor is there in PSL especially for Pakistanis but the revenue and money stuff needs to improve a lot.

BBL's standard of cricket has nosedived in last 2 years(atleast for me)

The Hundred I never could get my head around.

LPL is substandard till now.

BPL this year has been extremely underwhelming, all games following a similar low scoring pattern.

I personally enjoy CPL along side PSL.

 

[bujhee kom]

PSL cannot compare to BPL in financials. Bangladesh has a great economy now and can simply outspend Pk 5:1.

 

[chinaman00]

Quality is subjective. But numbers don’t lie. PSL might be providing “entertainment” but the embarrassing stadium crowd sizes is indicative of the PSL as a brand. As it currently stands, it’s a poor imitation of the IPL and lags behind even the BBL and BPL and other leagues in terms of crowd pull.

PSL has a big room to grow before it can be seen as a serious league.

 

[Artaxerxes]

PSL cannot compare to BPL in financials. Bangladesh has a great economy now and can simply outspend Pk 5:1.

Nominal gdp of BD for 2021 is $409B.Pakistan’s GDP for 2021 is $435B.This is according to Wikipedia.Check it out.BD is not 5 times richer than Pakistan.

 

[chinaman00]

Nominal gdp of BD for 2021 is $409B.Pakistan’s GDP for 2021 is $435B.This is according to Wikipedia.Check it out.BD is not 5 times richer than Pakistan.

The GDP of Pakistan is $347-billion and Bangladesh’s is $350-billion.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

I think BigBash has more following in India after IPL.
PSL also has decent viewership in India.

Quality wise both BigBash and PSL are same, rest all leagues are junk.

 

[offstump]

Quality is subjective. But numbers don’t lie. PSL might be providing “entertainment” but the embarrassing stadium crowd sizes is indicative of the PSL as a brand. As it currently stands, it’s a poor imitation of the IPL and lags behind even the BBL and BPL and other leagues in terms of crowd pull.

PSL has a big room to grow before it can be seen as a serious league.

Crowds are restricted due to Covid. It would be a near sellout if there were no restrictions in place. Gate revenue is an indicator but overall viewership is a better indicator and the numbers are there to back it up.

 

[Savak]

Quality is subjective. But numbers don’t lie. PSL might be providing “entertainment” but the embarrassing stadium crowd sizes is indicative of the PSL as a brand. As it currently stands, it’s a poor imitation of the IPL and lags behind even the BBL and BPL and other leagues in terms of crowd pull.

PSL has a big room to grow before it can be seen as a serious league.

If it was not a serious league, it would not have roped in Broadcasters from every corner of the globe. Crowd sizes in Khi were jampacked in 2018 and 2019 and in Multan and Rawalpindi in 2021. The PCB, Franchises and the Govt have mishandled the product when it comes to advertising, promotion. Vikrant Gupta from India has already confirmed after IPL, according to the numbers PSL is the second most viewed T-20 league in the world.

Even the Australians have been complaining that the standard of the BBL has declined in the last few years. No one watches the English Natwest League outside the UK. Less said about the BPL the better, it faced payment controversies early on and is even now in the headlines for the wrong reasons.

 

[Savak]

I think BigBash has more following in India after IPL.
PSL also has decent viewership in India.

Quality wise both BigBash and PSL are same, rest all leagues are junk.

Big Bash suffers from the timing difference, people in the SC are either asleep or working when it is held. Technology wise and Quality of Cricket wise it is right up there but even the Australia stakeholders complain that dragging the tournament to over 2 months has diluted local interest.

 

[Kroll]

PSL is on the right track, it is getting exposure, I didn't think a heavy weight like Sky Sports would bother showing it here in the UK.

Foreigners are increasingly becoming more comfortable coming to Pakistan to play along with decent international commentators also coming along.

The brand is growing, the quality will get better and consequently the financials will also improve to attract the top talent.

 

[cricketjoshila]

PSL cannot compare to BPL in financials. Bangladesh has a great economy now and can simply outspend Pk 5:1.

So why aren't they doing it?

Whats the tv rights deal of BCB?

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Big Bash suffers from the timing difference, people in the SC are either asleep or working when it is held. Technology wise and Quality of Cricket wise it is right up there but even the Australia stakeholders complain that dragging the tournament to over 2 months has diluted local interest.

PSL is improving.
Few years back broadcasting quality, stadiums and ground preperation was very poor.
Last season was good. This season also good.
I noticed that PSL franchises are reluctant to make changes , they are still sticking with same players irrespective of performance.

 

[Savak]

PSL is improving.
Few years back broadcasting quality, stadiums and ground preperation was very poor.
Last season was good. This season also good.
I noticed that PSL franchises are reluctant to make changes , they are still sticking with same players irrespective of performance.

Franchises have stagnated and are not really hungry to improve things or develop their franchises any further. In fact a few of them even told the sports reporters that we have already captured the Pakistani market and do not have to do anything more as we will not get any more ROI.

It is actually these Franchises that should be held responsible for attracting and pulling their own fans to the stadiums atleast.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

PSL is growing and has alot of promising indicators that tell you that it could be the undisputed No.2 T20 league in the world not too far down the line.

But thing is that if high-profile names like du Plessis, Moeen Ali, Gayle, Narine and Russell are choosing BPL over the PSL than that does not bode well for the future of the league. And if anything it should be a wake-up call for franchises and league organizers to raise the salary caps before more high-profile names start doing this.

 

[Savak]

PSL is growing and has alot of promising indicators that tell you that it could be the undisputed No.2 T20 league in the world not too far down the line.

But thing is that if high-profile names like du Plessis, Moeen Ali, Gayle, Narine and Russell are choosing BPL over the PSL than that does not bode well for the future of the league. And if anything it should be a wake-up call for franchises and league organizers to raise the salary caps before more high-profile names start doing this.

Tbh these names that you mentioned have not done much in the prior PSL seasons. Gayle also went unsold in 2017 & 2018 because he didn't perform as expected. Du Plessis and Moeen Ali failed in the PSL for the most part. Franchises will not pick people on reputation forever.