Can PSL become the second biggest Twenty20 league?

[Usman Chadda]

If 1% watch or not in Pak doesn't matter, IPL grown beyond expectations in last 10 years. If not even single person from Pak watches doesn't make iota of difference for IPL popularity ..No thanks brothers

Clearly Pakistani fans are the ones throwing tantrums here.

The irony is unbelievable.

 

[Mercurial]

If 1% watch or not in Pak doesn't matter, IPL grown beyond expectations in last 10 years. If not even single person from Pak watches doesn't make iota of difference for IPL popularity ..No thanks brothers

I can smell arrogance in your post, cut it down, brother, not healthy

 

[navin]

I don't know why people are comparing IPL to PSL? It's not even apple to oranges. Sethi sad PSL 3 would earn them 5 million USD while the tv rights from a single IPL match alone would give BCCI 8.5 million USD.

 

[rhony]

I don't know why people are comparing IPL to PSL? It's not even apple to oranges. Sethi sad PSL 3 would earn them 5 million USD while the tv rights from a single IPL match alone would give BCCI 8.5 million USD.

There was no argument about what the number 1 league is. Even the name of the thread is about PSL becoming a No.2 league. It appears the discussion was derailed by a ridiculous assumption that IPL is more popular in Pakistan than PSL

 

[IndianFan2018]

From so many years PPers were bashing IPL, saying it is killing cricket blah blah.

When PSL happened all sins are washed, league cricket is great thing to happen after slice of bread.

So defensive PSL fans ..Can't even take criticism.

Where IPL went through hell from all angles other boards, ICC, social media... after a decade IPL standing tall..Taller than ICC.

That's how a product evolves ...not by being overprotective with every criticism by some rival fans. #JustMyOpinion

 

[Mamoon]

Who cares about IPL.I dont thinks so.I live here and see people.They only care about PSL now.
Of course people watch it but it is not that popular i think.

People care about the IPL. Obviously not as much as the PSL, but the notion that "no one cares about the IPL" is a self-satisfying myth.

Look at you, you had to put down Pakistan, day doesn't begin unless that is done.

I am not putting Pakistan down. However, some people have a hard time accepting the fact that the PSL will never become 10% of what the IPL is.

 

[DRsohail]

People care about the IPL. Obviously not as much as the PSL, but the notion that "no one cares about the IPL" is a self-satisfying myth.



I am not putting Pakistan down. However, some people have a hard time accepting the fact that the PSL will never become 10% of what the IPL is.

Bro i can tell that many of my friends watch PSL but most of them do not know which Ipl team has which player or which team is on the top.They will watcg match in a restaurant and that is it.
PSl is being watched by my room mate in KTH who even does not know what is this super over rule.

 

[Mamoon]

Bro i can tell that many of my friends watch PSL but most of them do not know which Ipl team has which player or which team is on the top.They will watcg match in a restaurant and that is it.
PSl is being watched by my room mate in KTH who even does not know what is this super over rule.

I will repeat what I said. People care about the PSL more (which is obvious), but the IPL has considerable fan following as well, and the image that some people portray here is misleading.

 

[babajee]

IPL has considerable fan following in Pakistan )

Maybe in Mamoonistan, not Pakistan.

 

[DRsohail]

I will repeat what I said. People care about the PSL more (which is obvious), but the IPL has considerable fan following as well, and the image that some people portray here is misleading.

So you are gradually changing it now,IPL is being watched but very casual viewership.
Its not sbout feeling inferior but its reality.IPL is big league we know but the way you were hyping that pakistani care about is is false .

 

[babajee]

I am not putting Pakistan down. However, some people have a hard time accepting the fact that the PSL will never become 10% of what the IPL is.

The way you talk about it, it is as though IPL has never had a boring match. Every single match in the IPL has been a fantastic nail biter with an extraordinary display of cricket.

Batsmen don’t slog or hack to hit sixes. Every single hit is clean and out of the stadium. Every pacer operates at 90+ mph and a catch has never been dropped in the IPL.

 

[Mamoon]

So you are gradually changing it now,IPL is being watched but very casual viewership.
Its not sbout feeling inferior but its reality.IPL is big league we know but the way you were hyping that pakistani care about is is false .

I am not changing anything. I am repeating myself over and over again.

Do people care about the IPL in Pakistan? Yes they do.

Do people care about the PSL more? Of course, no explanation required.

Do people deliberately put down the IPL and dismiss its relevance in Pakistan due to bitterness and jealously? Yes, sadly.

 

[Mamoon]

IPL has considerable fan following in Pakistan )

Maybe in Mamoonistan, not Pakistan.

I do not know where you live or how much time you have spent in Pakistan, but the fact is that people do care about the IPL and some of the comments here regarding the IPL are misleading.

Some facts are bitter, but they are still facts. You can choose to ignore them if you want.

 

[Mamoon]

The way you talk about it, it is as though IPL has never had a boring match. Every single match in the IPL has been a fantastic nail biter with an extraordinary display of cricket.

Batsmen don’t slog or hack to hit sixes. Every single hit is clean and out of the stadium. Every pacer operates at 90+ mph and a catch has never been dropped in the IPL.

Again, it is not about entertainment or tight matches. IPL is USA and PSL is Uganda.

Two completely different worlds in every aspect. The only two similarities are: (a) both are cricket leagues and (b) the PSL is a rip-off.

Other than that, there are no similarities between the two and the PSL will never get anywhere close to the IPL. The reasons are pretty obvious. Indian cricket is far, far more lucrative and marketable than Pakistan cricket.

 

[babajee]

Again, it is not about entertainment or tight matches. IPL is USA and PSL is Uganda.

Two completely different worlds in every aspect. The only two similarities are: (a) both are cricket leagues and (b) the PSL is a rip-off.

Other than that, there are no similarities between the two and the PSL will never get anywhere close to the IPL. The reasons are pretty obvious. Indian cricket is far, far more lucrative and marketable than Pakistan cricket.

What do you watch T20 cricket for?



Entertainment

 

[Usman Chadda]

I do not know where you live or how much time you have spent in Pakistan, but the fact is that people do care about the IPL and some of the comments here regarding the IPL are misleading.

Some facts are bitter, but they are still facts. You can choose to ignore them if you want.

I live in the UAE and am a frequent visitor to Pakistan. None of the people I know care about the IPL. Even Pakistanis living in the UAE, who will naturally have more exposure to the IPL as compared to someone living in Pakistan, don't follow the IPL. Its not a knock on the IPL which is a fantastic league with a very good roster.

Pakistanis have never had any connection with the IPL. Maybe a few Pakistanis who worship Indian cricketers might follow it religiously, but to the average joe IPL is just something for timepass when nothing is on TV.

The suggestions that IPL has more following than the PSL in Pakistan is ridiculous on many levels. Its not even worthy enough to be considered a troll.

 

[bleed blue]

I dnt knw why some pakistanis think that them watching or not watching the IPL make a difference..it doesn't..and PSL is nothing in front of IPL..it is a league played by retired cricketers and some t20 mercenaries.

 

[MABA]

I said 2025-30 to allow for future proofing. Bd with 7% growth and Pk with anemic 2-3% growth are on different paths.

Any projections out there?

Projections for the year 2030, Bangladesh ranked 28 while Pakistan will be 20th.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/ranke...es-in-2030-2017-2/#29-vietnam-1303-trillion-4

 

[AMSS]

Expectedly, insecurities are being displayed as is typical in any *censored* measuring contest. PSL can without a doubt become the second biggest league in terms of eyeballs owing to pakistani population and convenient timezone with India. BBL's timezone just doesnt work with India and same for the English league if they start their matches in the evenings.

But in terms of revenue, I expect PSL to lag behind IPL, BBL and the proposed English league. The best indicator of this would be worth of broadcast rights. BBL is about to be sold for an amount well north of 50 million aussie dollars.

English league's right has been sold bundled with their England's international cricket right so not easy to tell what was the amount determined for their league. But the rights were sold for a healthy amount.

We'll see if PSL improves, and if so by how much, on the annual broadcast figure of 5 million USD.

 

[IndianFan2018]

The way you talk about it, it is as though IPL has never had a boring match. Every single match in the IPL has been a fantastic nail biter with an extraordinary display of cricket.

Batsmen don’t slog or hack to hit sixes. Every single hit is clean and out of the stadium. Every pacer operates at 90+ mph and a catch has never been dropped in the IPL.

Those are unrealistic expectation from any form of Cricket..Bro.

End of the day value of the product is decided by market value ..which is well documented for IPL;
IPL has beaten ICC world events hands down in market value as per broadcasters (Sources who pay for cricket).

So no point showing ignorance and ignoring big elephant in the room.

If few neutral fans accept or not -

"IPL is what it is an awesome product --- Giant league "

 

[DRsohail]

I am not changing anything. I am repeating myself over and over again.

Do people care about the IPL in Pakistan? Yes they do.

Do people care about the PSL more? Of course, no explanation required.

Do people deliberately put down the IPL and dismiss its relevance in Pakistan due to bitterness and jealously? Yes, sadly.

no they dont.do there is difference bw casual fans and taking care.
i think you have not been ehre in pakistan for the last 3 to 4 years.

 

[barah_admi]

The BCCI/IPL have already stated that they are no longer interested in CL and want no part in it.

CL can still be done. There are 8 other leagues/local T20 champions (BBL, PSL, CPL, BPL, SA, NZ, Eng, SL). A short and sweet 8 team consisting of the champions from each could work. Another option is to have the two finalist from each league for a 16 team CL.

But someone needs to take leadership and ownership to get things moving. Who is the big question.

The ECB is the only one that can do that, but they have huge problems at home. There are concerns over the future of county cricket, over funding and how it is distributed, over the test game, over TV rights and how they should be distributed and ultimately, when it comes to T20, there has been a lot of problems in growing the format into a franchise based league. The only cricket board with the ability and resources is distracted.

However, I see your point and the PCB, WICB, SL and even CSA could come together for their own tournament.

 

[IndianFan2018]

The ECB is the only one that can do that, but they have huge problems at home. There are concerns over the future of county cricket, over funding and how it is distributed, over the test game, over TV rights and how they should be distributed and ultimately, when it comes to T20, there has been a lot of problems in growing the format into a franchise based league. The only cricket board with the ability and resources is distracted.

However, I see your point and the PCB, WICB, SL and even CSA could come together for their own tournament.

BCCI did tried Champions League and could not sustain due to non interest of Indian fans; who didn't care to turn up for matches from other league teams.

BCCI can try again after 5 years may succeed second time !

 

[Test champion]

only some blind fan can think at the moment,its not even close .

 

[Hasan123]

Once it's moved to Pakistan, it can be the 2nd best T20 league in the world.

 

[USofA]

Once it's moved to Pakistan, it can be the 2nd best T20 league in the world.

It's not about just moving back to Pakistan. If/when it moves back, franchises have to play in their home grounds. Not just playing all matches in two venues.

There has to be a proper home/away matches. That is what makes IPL, BBL succeed. If games are played in just 2 venues, people may not show up for non home team matches. Also it gets old pretty quick when there is a game everyday.

Home/away spreads interest farther and wider. Better for marketing and thus $$$. IPL is a great example. You see all the teams criss-cross the country spreading the game.

 

[USofA]

The ECB is the only one that can do that, but they have huge problems at home. There are concerns over the future of county cricket, over funding and how it is distributed, over the test game, over TV rights and how they should be distributed and ultimately, when it comes to T20, there has been a lot of problems in growing the format into a franchise based league. The only cricket board with the ability and resources is distracted.

However, I see your point and the PCB, WICB, SL and even CSA could come together for their own tournament.

Not just the ECB, I don't see any of the boards coming forward nor do I think they have the wherewithal to do something like this.

 

[barah_admi]

Not just the ECB, I don't see any of the boards coming forward nor do I think they have the wherewithal to do something like this.

I mentioned the ECB because it has the most clout and is financially much more secure than anyone else. But T20 isn't much of a draw for them, as they are concentrating on the near 5 year project of building their ODI side into a world cup winning side.

 

[someone21]

Impossible. Because firstly this league is not consistent or constant. The timings, schedule, format keeps changing together with farce management. Not just players, but the league itself needs some consistency and PSL has none.

And then it;s just a private super league, it aren't any connection with Pakistan, its public and hasn't helped one bit in its country's image.

 

[ataullah]

Can Psl be second to ipl if it is held in Pak?

Where do u rate Psl compared to ipl and big bash?

 

[DRsohail]

No comparison with IPL but can be compared with BBL i next few years if psl comes to pakistan.

 

[ahsan17]

I said 2025-30 to allow for future proofing. Bd with 7% growth and Pk with anemic 2-3% growth are on different paths.

Any projections out there?

Are you posting from a time machine in year 2012?

 

[Arham_PakFan]

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[Kohli The King of Chase]

Big teams like Aus, ENG, and SA are not playing much LOIs during upcoming PSL seasons.

In 2020, Eng and WI are available
2021, Aus, Eng, WI and SA are available
2022, Aus, Eng and SA are available
2023, Eng are available

These are just availability(Partially or fully) of top teams (Eng, SA, Aus, NZ and WI).

Apart from this there are Ban and SL teams available during various seasons.

Already Warner and Smith can be brought for 2019 season.

Good days ahead for PSL. I can see it becoming the second best league in 5 - 10 years, especially with it moving to Pakistan, increment in no. of teams, sponsors, broadcast rights, etc.


All the best.

 

[Savak]

Big teams like Aus, ENG, and SA are not playing much LOIs during upcoming PSL seasons.

In 2020, Eng and WI are available
2021, Aus, Eng, WI and SA are available
2022, Aus, Eng and SA are available
2023, Eng are available

These are just availability(Partially or fully) of top teams (Eng, SA, Aus, NZ and WI).

Apart from this there are Ban and SL teams available during various seasons.

Already Warner and Smith can be brought for 2019 season.

Good days ahead for PSL. I can see it becoming the second best league in 5 - 10 years, especially with it moving to Pakistan, increment in no. of teams, sponsors, broadcast rights, etc.


All the best.

Please explain to CricketJoshilla who is basking in the glory of the IPL

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

Please explain to CricketJoshilla who is basking in the glory of the IPL

IPL is no doubt the biggest "cricket" league. I will even go onto say IPL is "THE LEAGUE ", but PSL will easily and surely become the poor man's IPL, which in itself would be the biggest achievement by any board.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

If some how they adjust their window in right place then surely it will become 2nd best league

 

[cricketjoshila]

Please explain to CricketJoshilla who is basking in the glory of the IPL

Please first go past BBL which has much higher attendance and much much bigger broadcast deal then go past the ECB T20 league after that you can talk about IPL.

 

[cricketjoshila]

IPL is no doubt the biggest "cricket" league. I will even go onto say IPL is "THE LEAGUE ", but PSL will easily and surely become the poor man's IPL, which in itself would be the biggest achievement by any board.

Any idea about attendance of BBL and its broadcast deal?

Any idea about the ECB broadcast deal?

Its one thing to say PSL will become second biggest league its another thing to go out there and check the stats.

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

Any idea about attendance of BBL and its broadcast deal?

Any idea about the ECB broadcast deal?

Its one thing to say PSL will become second biggest league its another thing to go out there and check the stats.

Sorry bro if I've hurt you. I just gave my opinion, you can even say BPL is second.

I said, "WILL", and if you are asking me to check stats, then it's present. No where did I say "PSL IS", I said "WILL". If you can use some sense and time, you can even check my first post where I opened this thread. I've said PSL is below BBL and even CPL.

And again it's not just about the BROADCAST DEAL, I am talking about.

 

[giri26]

To be really frank, it depends on many factors. First would be the international players pool. The second will be the intent of the many of the foreign players to visit Pakistan. Since PCB wants PSL to be moved to Pakistan eventually, Players willingness to travel there will make a huge difference. If cricket comes back to Pakistan and PSL gets a lot of star players, the league can move to top 2 in the world. But in its current condition it will not. It will be great for Pakistan and for Pakistan's cricket though.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Sorry bro if I've hurt you. I just gave my opinion, you can even say BPL is second.

I said, "WILL", and if you are asking me to check stats, then it's present. No where did I say "PSL IS", I said "WILL". If you can use some sense and time, you can even check my first post where I opened this thread. I've said PSL is below BBL and even CPL.

And again it's not just about the BROADCAST DEAL, I am talking about.

Hurt my feelings.lol. why will it hurt my feelings?

I gave my opinion on what you posted.

BBLs avg attendance in last few seasons is among top 10 of all sporting leagues combined. CA's broadcast deal is close to 1bn dollars. PSL isnt even on the same planet.

ECB's broadcast deal is worth £1bn.

It begs the question how will PCB find the money to match this? At the end of the day there are limited number of players and limited number of days they can play. They have much better pay days elsewhere.

 

[cricketjoshila]

To be really frank, it depends on many factors. First would be the international players pool. The second will be the intent of the many of the foreign players to visit Pakistan. Since PCB wants PSL to be moved to Pakistan eventually, Players willingness to travel there will make a huge difference. If cricket comes back to Pakistan and PSL gets a lot of star players, the league can move to top 2 in the world. But in its current condition it will not. It will be great for Pakistan and for Pakistan's cricket though.

More than safety can PSL afford to pay huge salaries?

Its revenue deals are not great. Its international tv rights deal is 60% dependent on India tours.

With PCB forcing its players to play just 2 leagues its expected that other countries will follow suit and the players will likely choose the best paid leagues.

Pakistan has a much smaller economy than India Aus Eng or SA so the money will be lesser, thats the problem.

 

[ataullah]

Rumors Ab de Villiers will be part of PSL 4.

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[Hedz]

They’ve got everyone’s hopes up
If it’s not AB we will have a lot of disappointed fans

Heart says AB, mind says it will be something else, most likely something to do with the title sponsor etc

 

[USofA]

It could be something to do with broadcast rights. If I am right, the initial broadcast deal of $5 million a year ended with the last edition. With the next one just 5 months away the PSL should be working on a new deal.

 

[Parvaiz Occupied Kashmiri]

I think PSL is second best league after IPL.
PSL needs to be played in Pakistan.
BBL CPL BPL are behind PSL.
PSL at times is more exciting than IPL.

 

[gazza619]

It could be AB..he needs to play regular competitive cricket to keep himself fit for his annual IPL pay cheque.

 

[MenInG]

It could be AB..he needs to play regular competitive cricket to keep himself fit for his annual IPL pay cheque.

Win win for all.

 

[Usman Chadda]

It could be something to do with broadcast rights. If I am right, the initial broadcast deal of $5 million a year ended with the last edition. With the next one just 5 months away the PSL should be working on a new deal.

Why would the average cricket fan care about that? Why would something like that be advertised as a 'surprise'?

 

[super hitter]

It definitely is better than CPL in my opinion. Despite having better foreign players, CPL still didn't manage to attract big crowds and even the stands are surprisingly empty most of the times,but this CPL, it has improved big times!

Thing is, PSL does have rivalries, the owners and film/tv celebs are in the ground supporting their respective franchises. This season of CPL, however, is much better than the former ones and one can say it is on par with the PSL.

Once PSL arrives to Pakistan, then theirs nothing stopping them from taking over BBL. Packed stadiums, ecstatic crowd, big rival games etc.

 

[super hitter]

Don't want to see ABD in Lahore Qalandars. Once a team gets used to being at the bottom, they always end up loosing no matter how good players they get to have. An Example could be ST Lucia from CPL and Sydney Thunders from BBL. Don't watch IPL but I'm pretty sure their's an all time underdog almost in every big league.

 

[the_outsider]

Its not about economical growth only ,Its about viwership and quality of cricket.Once PSL moves to pakistan you will see the rise though t is still better than BPL.

Economic growth of a nation is directly correlated to growth of businesses (any cricket leagues are businesses) in a country.

I'm not saying BPL will be better than PSL in terms of quality. But given the GDP projections of not Bangladesh and Pakistan, it is likely that BPL will become bigger i.e. more revenue than PSL.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

I think PSL is already second best .

 

[Pakhs]

Economic growth of a nation is directly correlated to growth of businesses (any cricket leagues are businesses) in a country.

I'm not saying BPL will be better than PSL in terms of quality. But given the GDP projections of not Bangladesh and Pakistan, it is likely that BPL will become bigger i.e. more revenue than PSL.

I dont think so! I think long term its only a matter of time PSL will become second biggest league in the world. But I dont consider any of these leagues as big deal. I mean what is IPL? Just a domestic league which is not as important as national tournaments. Cricket is not like football or basketball where clubs are more important and have more fan following.

I do watch IPL and PSL as a cricket fan but dont consider any team even above than say Pak v Afghan match.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I think PSL is already second best .

No its bbl. Bbl's stadium attendance is one of the best for any sporting league. Its broadcast rights are also far more expensive for the same reason.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Yes,it certainly can.

 

[Pakhs]

No its bbl. Bbl's stadium attendance is one of the best for any sporting league. Its broadcast rights are also far more expensive for the same reason.

Problem with BBL is timing and its doesnt have many live viewers outside AUS. Due o which I have not won a single BBL match in my life yet and same with anyone i know.

 

[Ummii]

David Warner

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

I remember the time when people used to think that the Aussies had the best domestic structure in the world and that’s why they were the invincibles. Since Pakistani t20 side is number 1 so.....

 

[Pakhs]

In my opinion these leagues have two purposes one make money for their cricket boards which I guess is the most important and other entertainment for the audience. Both of which is not that important for die hard fans of their teams which is success in international matches.

I think IPL is way ahead for two factors above second BBL and then PSL and rest about the same.

 

[barah_admi]

It is already the second richest league if I'm not mistaken but is slightly behind the BBL in quality, although I did not see a lot last season.

The IPL is too dull and too long.

 

[Pakhs]

It is already the second richest league if I'm not mistaken but is slightly behind the BBL in quality, although I did not see a lot last season.

The IPL is too dull and too long.

Its not too dull but maybe a bit too long ideally. But its way ahead when it comes to generating money for BCCI and entertainment factor.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Problem with BBL is timing and its doesnt have many live viewers outside AUS. Due o which I have not won a single BBL match in my life yet and same with anyone i know.

PSL wasnt even telecasted in India for the first 2 seasons. The third season too was telecast on a little known channel.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It is already the second richest league if I'm not mistaken but is slightly behind the BBL in quality, although I did not see a lot last season.

The IPL is too dull and too long.

2nd richest league? Bbl and ECBs yet to be launched league have sold their rights for much higher, price than the $5mn per season PSL gets from TV rights.

 

[Pakhs]

PSL wasnt even telecasted in India for the first 2 seasons. The third season too was telecast on a little known channel.

So? PSL generate most of its money from within Pak which is what most other leagues do. Even IPL rights to foreign TV get sold for peanuts compared to within INDIA.

 

[USofA]

So? PSL generate most of its money from within Pak which is what most other leagues do. Even IPL rights to foreign TV get sold for peanuts compared to within INDIA.

I think his point was that all these T20 leagues are just for the domestic market. Anything from outside their local target audience is just gravy on top.

None of these leagues have any kind of sizable viewership outside the home country. Exceptions might/would be IPL in USA, UK and the PSL in the UK.

 

[Pakhs]

I think his point was that all these T20 leagues are just for the domestic market. Anything from outside their local target audience is just gravy on top.

None of these leagues have any kind of sizable viewership outside the home country. Exceptions might/would be IPL in USA, UK and the PSL in the UK.

Well I dont think that was his point! he was trying to make a point that since Indians dont pay to watch PSL it cant be the second richest league in the world. Where reality is these leagues main market is domestic audience as its domestic leagues. Nobody in USA/UK will pay a significant amount to watch these leagues they will most probably watch as part of their existing subscriptions mostly.

Even IPL doesnt bring in a lot of money outside of Indian audience and the organisers know that and market it as Indian product only. This compares to say English Premier League where the world England rarely comes up and nationalities dont matter at all, No concept of foreign and local players at all.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So? PSL generate most of its money from within Pak which is what most other leagues do. Even IPL rights to foreign TV get sold for peanuts compared to within INDIA.

So why its any different for BBL? You complained about its timings.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I think his point was that all these T20 leagues are just for the domestic market. Anything from outside their local target audience is just gravy on top.

None of these leagues have any kind of sizable viewership outside the home country. Exceptions might/would be IPL in USA, UK and the PSL in the UK.

IPL drew bids from local networks in UK middle east US and Africa. Infact Supersports was ready to pay more for IPL than for the CSA Global T20 league.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Well I dont think that was his point! he was trying to make a point that since Indians dont pay to watch PSL it cant be the second richest league in the world. Where reality is these leagues main market is domestic audience as its domestic leagues. Nobody in USA/UK will pay a significant amount to watch these leagues they will most probably watch as part of their existing subscriptions mostly.

Even IPL doesnt bring in a lot of money outside of Indian audience and the organisers know that and market it as Indian product only. This compares to say English Premier League where the world England rarely comes up and nationalities dont matter at all, No concept of foreign and local players at all.

You said BBLs timing was a problem and many people outside Aus do not watch it. You gave your own example and of people you know. Now you are saying that the market overseas is of little value.

Secondly BBL and ECBs yet to launch T20 league have huge tv rights deals many times more than $5mn per year. So PSL is certainly not the 2nd richest league.



The graphics here would tell you how much non indian entities were interested in the IPL.

 

[Pakhs]

You said BBLs timing was a problem and many people outside Aus do not watch it. You gave your own example and of people you know. Now you are saying that the market overseas is of little value.

Secondly BBL and ECBs yet to launch T20 league have huge tv rights deals many times more than $5mn per year. So PSL is certainly not the 2nd richest league.

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The graphics here would tell you how much non indian entities were interested in the IPL.

They may have been interested but USA/UK have never been a big market for foreign cricket teams and that is mostly true even now. When I mentioned timing issue of AUS I wanted to say its not so popular outside AUS which was one factor we were discussing. Ofcourse I went on to say that its not a big factor money generated for the home board and entertainment for local audiences are the two factors which are most important when it comes to viability of the league.

 

[USofA]

Well I dont think that was his point! he was trying to make a point that since Indians dont pay to watch PSL it cant be the second richest league in the world. Where reality is these leagues main market is domestic audience as its domestic leagues. Nobody in USA/UK will pay a significant amount to watch these leagues they will most probably watch as part of their existing subscriptions mostly.

Even IPL doesnt bring in a lot of money outside of Indian audience and the organisers know that and market it as Indian product only. This compares to say English Premier League where the world England rarely comes up and nationalities dont matter at all, No concept of foreign and local players at all.

I read not too long ago that USA is the fourth largest revenue market for cricket behind the Big3. Not surprising given the population of Ind/Pak/Bang.

I would say it is not far fetched that more people in the USA watch cricket than Premier League soccer.

 

[Pakhs]

I read not too long ago that USA is the fourth largest revenue market for cricket behind the Big3. Not surprising given the population of Ind/Pak/Bang.

I would say it is not far fetched that more people in the USA watch cricket than Premier League soccer.

Market for International matches yes! not for IPL exclusively.

 

[Hasan123]

Needs to move to Pakistan for that to happen

 

[barah_admi]

2nd richest league? Bbl and ECBs yet to be launched league have sold their rights for much higher, price than the $5mn per season PSL gets from TV rights.

TV rights are not the only indicator. What players earn, advertising, sponsorships, ticket sales and global viewership are all factors. The BBL, as far as I know, does not match that. The English leagues has 2 years before it starts.

 

[cricketjoshila]

TV rights are not the only indicator. What players earn, advertising, sponsorships, ticket sales and global viewership are all factors. The BBL, as far as I know, does not match that. The English leagues has 2 years before it starts.

Bbl stadium attendance is among top 10 in the world.

Sponsorship amounts in australia far outstrip anything in Pakistan.

Bbl is watched in India on a prime channel while PSL was not even telecasted in India for 2 years and 3rd year was on a little known channel. This is in the biggest cricketing market in the world.

Sponsorship and advertisement revenue of ECB is second to only BCCI. PCB is not even close.

 

[cricketjoshila]

They may have been interested but USA/UK have never been a big market for foreign cricket teams and that is mostly true even now. When I mentioned timing issue of AUS I wanted to say its not so popular outside AUS which was one factor we were discussing. Ofcourse I went on to say that its not a big factor money generated for the home board and entertainment for local audiences are the two factors which are most important when it comes to viability of the league.

What you say isnt true about foreign markets as the broadcasters there do not agree with you. They surely know the market a bit better, dont they?

For BBL you say foreign timings are not suitable and thats a problem. When i bring the issue of PSL not being telecasted in cricket's biggest market then you talk about the local market. Make up your mind.

Ofcourse domestic market is very important,for the survival of the league.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

IPL
BBL
Vitality blast
PSL
CPL
BPL

In that order

 

[barah_admi]

Bbl stadium attendance is among top 10 in the world.

Sponsorship amounts in australia far outstrip anything in Pakistan.

Bbl is watched in India on a prime channel while PSL was not even telecasted in India for 2 years and 3rd year was on a little known channel. This is in the biggest cricketing market in the world.

Sponsorship and advertisement revenue of ECB is second to only BCCI. PCB is not even close.

Ok, post me the numbers for everything you have just said from official sources.