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Can Sarfaraz Ahmed improve Pakistan in the same way MS Dhoni improved India?

Nah he can never achieve what Dhoni achieved in his life, sarfraz at best will probably win the t20 world cup, odi no chance.
 
Sarfraz wont come close to achieving what Dhoni has achieved. Dhoni also had quality players at his disposal.

But Sarfraz doesnt have to match Dhoni - He only needs to be a better ODI captain than Azhar, Misbah, and Afridi. That would be very good.
 
He is a great admirer of Dhoni. Those who admire remain admirer only whole life. He should be Sarfraz not Dhoni.
 
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Complete BS. Different people are motivated by different things. Different people have idols from different fields, doesn't mean he can't be a good captain if he's fascinated by his captaincy.
Some people will never get warmed to the idea of Sarfraz being in the team as the most important man, fact is, he is.
 
All hopes now rest with Sarfaraz. If he is not able to arrest our descent then we will well and truly be in minnow territory.
 
A captain is as good as the team. Sarfaraz cannot do magic overnight. The team has to improve fitness and adapt to latest ODI nuances.

Also, i think Dhoni is liked more in Pakistan than in India. Have not seen a single member here talk negatively about Dhoni. Over in india there is an army of fans who hate him and I'm not sure why!
 
EliteCynical said:
A captain is as good as the team. Sarfaraz cannot do magic overnight. The team has to improve fitness and adapt to latest ODI nuances.

Also, i think Dhoni is liked more in Pakistan than in India. Have not seen a single member here talk negatively about Dhoni. Over in india there is an army of fans who hate him and I'm not sure why!
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People like Dhoni because he is a true gentleman and a warrior. I became a fan of Dhoni when Pakistan had India at 29/5 and this guy came out and scored a run-a-ball ton. Your best batsmen are those that come to your rescue when you are pinned to the mat. Not when it is sunny and easy.
 
EliteCynical said:
A captain is as good as the team. Sarfaraz cannot do magic overnight. The team has to improve fitness and adapt to latest ODI nuances.

Also, i think Dhoni is liked more in Pakistan than in India. Have not seen a single member here talk negatively about Dhoni. Over in india there is an army of fans who hate him and I'm not sure why!
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These are few and far between but very local. From my interaction with Indians who are casual cricket fans and follow the game but don't have time or patience to post on forums he is definitely loved. They are not unaware of his shortcomings but they admire what he has done for Indian cricket. Just as Saurav was vilified towards the end of his career but now he is held in high esteem.
 
This should be the team

1.S KHAN
2.S HASAN
3.B AZAM
4.H SOHAIL
5.S AHMED(C, Wk)
6.S ALI
7.F ZAMAN
8.I WASIM(VC)
9.M AMIR
10.H ALI
11.J KHAN

12.U SIDDIQ(Back up keeper )
13.M ASGHAR(We need specialist spinner, atleast in the squad )
14.A YAMIN
15.R RAEES/ Z HAQ

*F Zaman and H Sohail would bowl 10 overs.
This way Fakhar can be used(Need to be groomed in such a way) as a bowling AR

1.This has destructive opening pair with left-right combo(sharjeel and shahzaib)
2.Rock solid middle order, left-right combo(babar, Haris, sarfi)
3.Hard hitting lower order, (saad, fakhar, imad)

4.MOST IMPORTANT, GET RID OF PASSENGERS, ALREADY IT'S TOO LATE

NO NEED AZHAR, HAFFEZ, ASAD, MALIK
 
For me there are three vice captaincy candidates for the odi and t20 team 1) Imad Wasim 2) Babar Azam
3) Sharjeel Khan
 
Its a good team I would have Saud Shakeel in West Indies tour if Haris Sohail is not fully fit.
 
Need to make one of the the younger guys captain in my view
 
aliasad1998 said:
Yup not even close
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If it was a competition between Sarfaraz and Kami, I'd pick Sarf every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

We don't have any better keeper/batsman in Pakistan those who can keep well (Rizwan) aren't any good with the bat.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Don't forget that the likes of Azhar and Asad are still referred to as 'youngsters'...
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Actually only Misbah calls them youngsters and makes sense too because both are atleast a decade younger than him.
 
fazleefridi said:
This should be the team

1.S KHAN
2.S HASAN
3.B AZAM
4.H SOHAIL
5.S AHMED(C, Wk)
6.S ALI
7.F ZAMAN
8.I WASIM(VC)
9.M AMIR
10.H ALI
11.J KHAN

12.U SIDDIQ(Back up keeper )
13.M ASGHAR(We need specialist spinner, atleast in the squad )
14.A YAMIN
15.R RAEES/ Z HAQ

*F Zaman and H Sohail would bowl 10 overs.
This way Fakhar can be used(Need to be groomed in such a way) as a bowling AR

1.This has destructive opening pair with left-right combo(sharjeel and shahzaib)
2.Rock solid middle order, left-right combo(babar, Haris, sarfi)
3.Hard hitting lower order, (saad, fakhar, imad)

4.MOST IMPORTANT, GET RID OF PASSENGERS, ALREADY IT'S TOO LATE

NO NEED AZHAR, HAFFEZ, ASAD, MALIK
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Knowing our luck and the dinosaurs incharge of our team; we'll have Kamran, Hafeez, Malik, Umar, Shafiq back.
 
cricketInsight said:
Sarfraz wont come close to achieving what Dhoni has achieved. Dhoni also had quality players at his disposal.

But Sarfraz doesnt have to match Dhoni - He only needs to be a better ODI captain than Azhar, Misbah, and Afridi. That would be very good.
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How sarfaraz can be come dhoni, Dhoni had support from his board and Talent was coming from U-19 for him
 
Syed1 said:
If it was a competition between Sarfaraz and Kami, I'd pick Sarf every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

We don't have any better keeper/batsman in Pakistan those who can keep well (Rizwan) aren't any good with the bat.
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If Sarfrazs keeping in the next tour is as bad as it was in Australia then he should be dropped. I'd rather play an inferior batsman who is a better glovesman. You need a solid keeper in Test cricket. He can never make up for some of his mistakes behind the stumps, with the bat
 
That num 6,7,8 has around 30 runs in them in 15 overs. Add Anwar Ali and Rizwan somewhere and you could have the worst odi team ever.
 
Having said that, Sarfaraz was the biggest disappointment against India in the Asia cup t20.. he was playing on 20 runs and he got out to a harmless Jadeja delivery.. he should've stayed on till the end

He still has a long way to go before he can match Dhoni, he has a suicidal streak in him
 
waleed88 said:
Having said that, Sarfaraz was the biggest disappointment against India in the Asia cup t20.. he was playing on 20 runs and he got out to a harmless Jadeja delivery.. he should've stayed on till the end

He still has a long way to go before he can match Dhoni, he has a suicidal streak in him
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Sir did you look at the scorecard of that match? Only Sarfaraz was the one showing even an iota of fight all the other aggressive and talented cricketers wilted like no tomorrow.
 
The amount of hate that Sarfaraz gets on this forum is astonishing. You would think that Sarfaraz has single handedly lost you matches by mindlessly slogging to cow corner, or tuk tuking to his heart's content.
 
Syed1 said:
Sir did you look at the scorecard of that match? Only Sarfaraz was the one showing even an iota of fight all the other aggressive and talented cricketers wilted like no tomorrow.
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I get it, but the result could've been different you know, had he stayed on... like we got 6 wickets of Indian batsmen chasing down 80..

He also succumbed to pressure eventually.. he shouldn't have.. maybe the game could've been different if he had given them something above 100
 
Sarfaraz was the only one who was playing around with the field a little.. like he was showing his cricketing instincts, but got out at the wrong time.. its a feature of his aggression, its unpredictable
 
Dhoni had reaped the benefit of Ganguly being a predecessor, who had shown India how to win overseas. I don't think enough credit is given to Ganguly and the impact he had on Team India.

Unfortunately, for Sarfaraz he is not as big a star as either Ganguly or Dhoni to pick the team he wants. Even in Pakistan history, captains who had the choice to pick their own players (IK, Wasim etc) had traditionally excelled compared to weaker captains.
 
The only thing Sarfraz needs to improve right now his 20kg overweight body and several inches of belly fat.

Apart from that, the gloves and hands that serve as lubricants, which lost us the 1st Test at the Gabba by dropping Smith -- they need urgent attention.

Also the inability to play in modern LOIs and do some hitting -- that can't be fixed, as there's no ability.
 
Syed1 said:
The amount of hate that Sarfaraz gets on this forum is astonishing. You would think that Sarfaraz has single handedly lost you matches by mindlessly slogging to cow corner, or tuk tuking to his heart's content.
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and Umar Akmal gets all the love despite failing on every single occasion. Pretty clear why that is the case for anyone who knows how Pakistanis think.
 
Hawkeye said:
The only thing Sarfraz needs to improve right now his 20kg overweight body and several inches of belly fat.

Apart from that, the gloves and hands that serve as lubricants, which lost us the 1st Test at the Gabba by dropping Smith -- they need urgent attention.

Also the inability to play in modern LOIs and do some hitting -- that can't be fixed, as there's no ability.
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Spot on, if the captain is overweight and is regularly making mistakes in the field, doesn't set a good example for the rest. Sarfaraz doesn't look fit enough and his keeping is nowhere near good enough. As a batsman he is not bad at all.
 
Great to see him scolding shadab for over doing the googly.
 
We know that sarfraz can't win matches, just by captaincy.

But, good to see the fighting spirit, rather than trying to be good boys, nominating for the spirit of the cricket award.

Was sick of Misbah and Azhar.

Wish my parosis to become a good team as well.
 
Pakistan vs India in Champions Trophy would be the real test for him as a captain,hopefully he will succeed.
 
Obviously some parallels there but a long way to go. Pak desperately need to win some big T20 series or ICC tournament.
 
Pakistan are not bad in T20Is

It is the ODIs where we suck big time. Batting does not impress me
 
Syed1 said:
The amount of hate that Sarfaraz gets on this forum is astonishing. You would think that Sarfaraz has single handedly lost you matches by mindlessly slogging to cow corner, or tuk tuking to his heart's content.
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He isn't hated . There are quite a few posters who have Sarfraz in there avatars, he has received plenty of support on this forum, maybe [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] threads have made you think he is more hated than he is.


Also it was ridiculous to compare Misbah with Imran, but comparing Sarfarz with MSD and expecting him to match his achievements isn't just as ridiculous as comparisons between Misbah and Imran?
 
Taking this team to Semis, which has Azhar, Shahzad, Hafeez, Imad, Wahab is in itself a great achievement
 
As I said in the other thread, he actually has a brain on him unlike most of our past captains. But this was a team effort and cannot be attributed to one man alone.
 
Sarfraz Ahmed's journey is a bit like MS Dhoni

Is it possible he might end up like dhoni. Bats at number 6 and most importantly he takes his time to a win in his first ICC tournament event.
 
I don't know man.

People are unique individuals, so I like to believe.

No matter what the future holds, Sarfraz will end up like Sarfraz.
 
Sarfraz seems a way better keeper bat in test cricket.
 
Varun said:
Sarfraz seems a way better keeper bat in test cricket.
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Spot on, He is much valuable in test cricket.

Once opposition gets through tuk tuk top order and middle order, They face Sarfraz who scores more freely compared to others.
 
Nice jokes going on in this thread.

Dhoni is in the class of his own in LOI cricket. I am talking about pure batsmanship here. The guy could walk into Pakistan even today and displace none other than sarfaraz himself.

I'm not saying Sarfaraz would not be able to match him as a captain..perhaps he can. Only time will tell. But as an overall player i.e. batting, wicket keeping and captaincy, you have to be a big fan boy to say sarfaraz can match him because sarfaraz just isnt as good a batsman.

Test match cricket is a different ball game where i think Sarfaraz has the potential to surpass dhoni as a batsman.
 
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Madplayer said:
Nice jokes going on in this thread.

Dhoni is in the class of his own in LOI cricket. I am talking about pure batsmanship here. The guy could walk into Pakistan even today and displace none other than sarfaraz himself.

I'm not saying Sarfaraz would not be able to match him as a captain..perhaps he can. Only time will tell. But as an overall player i.e. batting, wicket keeping and captaincy, you have to be a big fan boy to say sarfaraz can match him because sarfaraz just isnt as good a batsman.

Test match cricket is a different ball game where i think Sarfaraz has the potential to surpass dhoni as a batsman.
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dhoni could displace all batsmen of pakistani team all together added

but sarfraz potential cant be realized at number 6, should promote himself at number 3.
 
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So far so good.

Two different personalities tho.

Mr. Cool and Mr. Hot.

In order to even compete with Dhoni, he has to take his odi and test team to top 4, win an odi world cup (2019) and a t20 world cup(2020).

Started well tho, by winning the CT
 
Comparing Sarfaraz to Dhoni is a big joke. Too much of free credit is been given to Sarfaraz. Pakistan team is doing well due to the youngsters, their fitness, and overall performance as a team.
 
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