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Can Shadab Khan replace Imad Wasim or Mohammad Nawaz in the T20I/ODI squad?

we need a proper bowler at number 8 who can hit sixes an average 25 with a strike rate of 130 in odis.
( not afridi lol)
shadab and imad i would say are ahead of nawaz
 
Syed1 said:
Kamran Ghulam was all the rage around the PP circles before PSL but hardly a peep about him now. Just goes to show a PSL contract can make or break your career. Kamraan would have wait till next years PSL and perform splendidly to get onto the selectors radar, which is unfortunate since if a boy is performing in domestics he should be on the radar whether he is in PSL or not. Same with someone like Saad Ali who is averaging in the 60s since debuting in List A cricket.
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he is performed well in domestic this year...kamran ghulam...
 
Saw his brief batting today.

Better shot range than Imad. He's going to be much more better than Imad in both departments.

Imad should be kicked out once we have a better replacement to partner Shadab.
 
Definitely replace Nawaz.

Imad has done really well in his international career.

Shadab has a lot of potential.
 
Very gifted.
The way he plays his strokes not just the big hits tell you how skillful he is.
Will play for pakistan for a long time if everything goes right .
 
Main thing for any youngster, will they remain hungry if they break into international 11, that i think has been diwnfall for a lot of our youngsters or newcomers, when they got into the team a lot if them showed no sign of improvement
 
Get him in the team ASAP!

As long as he doesn't bottle it in he playoffs.
 
GOLD!

So good to see Islamabad unearth this guy in front of the WHOLE world! Salute, Misbah!

:salute
 
"But Islamabad don't groom any youngsters"

This kid is the probably the best youngster we've unearthed from the PSL. He's consistently troubled internationally capped batsmen and bowls with intelligence beyond his years.

Looking forward to see his development.
 
Arham_PakFan said:
No way,not Imad(though Imad's the better spinner)

But Shadab isn't the complete package just yet.Should play a couple of A-tours.He is one for the future though,thats for sure.
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this is one of the most stupid post I have ever seen on PP :facepalm: times millions
 
srh said:
Imad is not even a spinner as he does not know how to spin a ball. And to call him a better spinner than a prodigy spin beauty is madness of highest order
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That's somewhat accurate.
 
He's out-performing both Imad and Nawaz this PSL. Deserves a look in. Looks a pretty good batsman too.
 
Couldn't find anyone better than Imad this tournament. I mean, apart from Shaadab - someone who could partner Shadab in place of Imad.

Imad will run riots in West Indies though. Expect a fifer at least.
 
In west indies we can play both shadab and Imad with three fast bowlers , Malik bowling a few overs.

In champions trophy though we will need Yamin , he isnt as bad a bowler as I thought. Yah he got punished by pollard but it happens.

For chamions trophy we should play one of shadab /imad and yamin at number 8.
 
JibranAnsari said:
In west indies we can play both shadab and Imad with three fast bowlers , Malik bowling a few overs.

In champions trophy though we will need Yamin , he isnt as bad a bowler as I thought. Yah he got punished by pollard but it happens.

For chamions trophy we should play one of shadab /imad and yamin at number 8.
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Yamin isn't really a good bowler.

Will get punished more often than not, esp. at the champions trophy. You don't want another 444.
 
Hawkeye said:
Yamin isn't really a good bowler.

Will get punished more often than not, esp. at the champions trophy. You don't want another 444.
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Mohammad Aamir, Hassan Ali and Rumman Raees could be decent options for limited overs.
 
He should replace Nawaz in squad without a problem...Imad is useful playing alongside Shadab in limited over games.

I think Shadab will replace Yasir in tests but for that we need some time.
 
For Champs trophy & WI

Bowlers should be:

Amir, Sohail Khan, Hassan Ali, Imad, Shadab, Malik (Playing XI)

Wahab, Rumman Raees (Bench)
 
yes play him

Nado_ said:
I know its still early days for Shadab but from what ive seen is that as an out and out spinner Shadab is a superior bowler, on pitches which arent spin crazy i think nawaz and asghar have been exposed.

I dont think nawaz is a threatning bowler on the international scene HOWEVER one could argue that he too is only young and its early days for him and can maybe only improve from here and therefore maybe unfair to discard him.

Imad on the other hand i feel is on the verge if not already of being exposed as a bowler, he bowls straight balls which would deceive the batsman thinking it might spin, aussies eventually figured him out by playing straight against him and he was dropped for rest of series. HOWEVER with imad he always makes a good comeback in the following series and is a geniune fighter, and can maybe argue he has not done too too badly to be dropped.

In terns of batting i think shadab has as nuch potential as the two. So what are your thoughts? Is it too soon? Would it be unfair to drop either of the two? Or have seen enough to realise that imad and nawaz aint going to be world class bowlers. Your thoughts please
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:narine
 
Nope. Shadab is not ready for pakistan

He is overbowling the googly. I predicted his googly in last nights game each time.

Guy has perfect line and legth, but he needs to know at what time to use what ball.

He could end up like kaneria in international cricket.

This is why i liked saeed ajmal, he knew at what time to bowl his doosra. You could never predict it.
 
Major said:
Nope. Shadab is not ready for pakistan

He is overbowling the googly. I predicted his googly in last nights game each time.

Guy has perfect line and legth, but he needs to know at what time to use what ball.

He could end up like kaneria in international cricket.

This is why i liked saeed ajmal, he knew at what time to bowl his doosra. You could never predict it.
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Yeah , his googly could become predictable because he overuses it. But he is too hot in a form to be ignored for the next very series.
 
hur rizvi said:
For Champs trophy & WI

Bowlers should be:

Amir, Sohail Khan, Hassan Ali, Imad, Shadab, Malik (Playing XI)

Wahab, Rumman Raees (Bench)
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Don't think Raees has enough for ODIs, for the time being, I think he is a nice t20 player where he should start for us

They way I see it we have 2 pacers with confirmed sports in ODIs

Hasan Ali and Amir ( bad psl but been decent in odis )

Last seamer for me is between Sohail Khan, Riaz and Junaid. I think Sohail should comfortably get it, espeically with CT in mind.

Then its between Riaz and Junaid and personally i feel ODIS are Riaz's worst format, I am more inclinced towards going with Junaid who despite his PSL horror, did better than stats suggest vs Australia and overall has a far better ODI record.

Or if we can include both in the squad
 
Major said:
Nope. Shadab is not ready for pakistan

He is overbowling the googly. I predicted his googly in last nights game each time.

Guy has perfect line and legth, but he needs to know at what time to use what ball.

He could end up like kaneria in international cricket.

This is why i liked saeed ajmal, he knew at what time to bowl his doosra. You could never predict it.
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I agree with you but he is doing it to cramp up the batsman to avoid giving room. The other danger with bowling the googly too much is the stress its puts on the shoulder. A fiercely spun leg spinner is all that is needed to be successful with the one that doesnt spin as the variation, the googly is bonus, but as Qadir found having a great googly( or two in his case) is not necessarily a route to success.
 
Major said:
Nope. Shadab is not ready for pakistan

He is overbowling the googly. I predicted his googly in last nights game each time.

Guy has perfect line and legth, but he needs to know at what time to use what ball.

He could end up like kaneria in international cricket.

This is why i liked saeed ajmal, he knew at what time to bowl his doosra. You could never predict it.
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I think he is ready.

To bowl this well against a brilliant spin player like Malik shows it.
 
Major said:
Nope. Shadab is not ready for pakistan

He is overbowling the googly. I predicted his googly in last nights game each time.

Guy has perfect line and legth, but he needs to know at what time to use what ball.

He could end up like kaneria in international cricket.

This is why i liked saeed ajmal, he knew at what time to bowl his doosra. You could never predict it.
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He is not completely ready thats why we should pick him for shorter formats

Overusing googly if well disguised can work in LOIs , Imran tahir uses it way too much, Infact his leg spin doesnt even turn.
 
Shadab has good technique and a sensible head on his shoulders but his batting lacks the impact at no. 6 to be a top all-rounder - esp in LOI.
 
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msb314 said:
Shadab has good technique and a sensible head on his shoulders but his batting lacks the impact at no. 6 to be a top all-rounder - esp in LOI.
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Shadab as a bowler has potential to be world class

While neither Pandya nor Faheem will be world class in one aspect
 
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Slog said:
msb314 said:
Shadab has good technique and a sensible head on his shoulders but his batting lacks the impact at no. 6 to be a top all-rounder - esp in LOI.
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Shadab as a bowler has potential to be world class

While neither Pandya nor Faheem will be world class in one aspect
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As a bowler - who is better (or has more potential) Nawaz or Shadab in your opinion?
 
msb314 said:
As a bowler - who is better (or has more potential) Nawaz or Shadab in your opinion?
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Shadab is a genuine wicket-taker. He can really lead the bowling attack in test / ODI / T20 once he has a little more experience

Nawaz is at best a run stopping bowler. His role is to keep his economy under 4.5 in ODIs and pick a wicket or two, comparable to the role Hafeez played.
 
msb314 said:
As a bowler - who is better (or has more potential) Nawaz or Shadab in your opinion?
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yaar I might be wrong but honestly in my opinion Shadab is miles ahead of Nawaz

Shadab has potential to be one of the ATG limited overs spinners in my opinion.

Nawaz is at best going to be a a better version of Hafeez the bowler - as in be an economical option with a wicket or two
 
Hasan123 said:
Shadab is a better bowler than Nawaz and has much more potential.
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Shadab is a better bowler than Imad and Nawaz put together, and he's a more complete batsmen than either one of them.. not to mention maybe the best fielder in Pakistan
 
Shadab, while early days, has to be one of the first names on the LOI team sheet...in tests he is showing a lot of promise which is good.
 
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