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Can you see Fakhar Zaman playing at the #4 position in ODIs?

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Every one would agree that Hafeez need to be removed.
Some expert says Fakhar is an opener and it is threatening to line him anywhere beyond top 3.
However Top 3 is booked with Kamran, Shehzad and Babar. (No discussion on this)

How do you see Fakhar at 4? Remember Babar started at 4, now he is an established player.
 
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I think he can perform there well, problem is Sarfraz can do better there, and him hiding at 6 to accommodate lesser players makes Pakistan a worse team.

Ideally Fahkar would be in the top order, just for this tour we should consider trying him at 6
 
Fully expect Kami and Shehzad to flop and flounder and one of their positions will go to Fakhar.



Kami, Shehzad and Hafeez have no place being in the Pakistan national side.
 
Fully expect Kami and Shehzad to flop and flounder and one of their positions will go to Fakhar.



Kami, Shehzad and Hafeez have no place being in the Pakistan national side.

pretty sure Kamran and Shezhad will get the entire t20 series, shezhad in particular will probably scrath out a score to keep himself going

we will most probably need another horrible CT to get rid of the dead weights.
 
pretty sure Kamran and Shezhad will get the entire t20 series, shezhad in particular will probably scrath out a score to keep himself going

we will most probably need another horrible CT to get rid of the dead weights.

That is the unfortunate story of Pakistan cricket, we keep hoping for shock defeats for there to be mass culling of all passengers, only to have those same passengers crawl their way back into the side a couple or so years later.

Shehzad/Umar are the new Kami/Hafeez they will be kept in the side, will flop and then get dropped only to come back a few series later. I feel if Kami and Hafeez are dropped now their careers will be over, but we are stuck with Shehzad and Umar for the next 10 years atleast.
 
we are stuck with Shehzad and Umar for the next 10 years atleast.

Mostly likely, let look at the bright side, though, its better than being stuck with Farhat and yk.

The selections of Kamran and Shehzad while i don't agree with ( especially Kamran), don't bother me because they are merited given performances and circumstance. Having said that its the selection of Professor and the likes of Tanvir/Zakir, which tell me nothing has changed.

There is no reason to select professor, it shows seniority mentality still exists.

Zakir's selection shows little, though. Yes, the guy has done well in domestic cricket overall ( failed in List A recently, though), but he is another accumulator. It makes no sense and shows the selectors are just looking at run charts not where and how the runs were made. Talat is a modern player and had a great list A tournament, its good he went to Bangladesh but what was the harm in playing him vs Windies?

Also, we all know we need an explosive opener especially now with Sharjeel being a crook. We have very little but at least try someone other than a 36-year old who bar a few games has largely failed in his career and averages 26 with the bat. Naveed Malik and Awais Zia are both hacks but one of them should be given a chance at the top of the order until someone better emerges.


She had I still have smidgeon of hope for, but he will have to remake himself in the international level. The thing is we know he does have a free flowing game, we have seen it like in his debut ton against NZ or that 100 he made against SA in SA.


Umar's case is depressing, he used to average close to 55 in first class now 44. Till he has a great domestic season he is lost.


What games me some hope though is that the teams that Inzi has been selecting for A tours have largely been very good, as others have pointed out as well. In the past, A tours were paid holidays for ttfs who were to horrible for even the national team or for the relatives of PCB officials.
incompetent
This makes me believe that rather then being corrupt/incompetent izni is just too nice. He still knows a lot of the older generation at a personal level and this getting in the way. If he gets over that then maybe there is some hope.
 
Shehzad and Kami are both likely to fail so why not have Fakhar open and give #4 to Sarfraz where he can actually be useful
 
Fully expect Kami and Shehzad to flop and flounder and one of their positions will go to Fakhar.



Kami, Shehzad and Hafeez have no place being in the Pakistan national side.

I do expect the same... Would like to see how fakhar approaches an ODI, he was all guns blazing in PSL T20s and looked bad against pace...
 
I know it's very unlikely to happen, I would try Fakhar at 6 in the odi's. This would be my 11 against West Indies,

1. Shehzad
2. Talat Hussain
3. Babar Azam
4. Malik
5. Sarfaraz
6. Fakhar Zaman
7. Shadab Khan
8. Imad Wasim
9. Sohail Khan
10. Amir
11. Hassan Ali
 
He should be used as opener , Kamran is not future , you need to bring in players who can last 10 - 12 years
 
yes he can start from there.. As shehzad and Kami are bou d to flop soon(crap pick at first place). Fakhar then can move up.
 
I know it's very unlikely to happen, I would try Fakhar at 6 in the odi's. This would be my 11 against West Indies,

1. Shehzad
2. Talat Hussain
3. Babar Azam
4. Malik
5. Sarfaraz
6. Fakhar Zaman
7. Shadab Khan
8. Imad Wasim
9. Sohail Khan
10. Amir
11. Hassan Ali

I would interchange talat and fakhar position
 
Every one would agree that Hafeez need to be removed.
Some expert says Fakhar is an opener and it is threatening to line him anywhere beyond top 3.
However Top 3 is booked with Kamran, Shehzad and Babar. (No discussion on this)

How do you see Fakhar at 4? Remember Babar started at 4, now he is an established player.

He will have to compete with Hafeez, Malik and Babar for that spot so no chance unfortunately.

His best chance is at opening if Kammy or Shehzad fail.
 
No - in fact he won't ever make into any other 3 Asian sides just on the look. Forget India, none of the BD or Lankan players' follow through end to fine leg after a cover drive. He basically slices every off side shot - even full tosses. 2, maximum 3 innings of total 35 balls, international teams will block his slogging range.

I know, he has outstanding List A stats, but not sure how - few years back Awsis Zia had even better reputation, until I saw him against Poms. Fakhar is an opening batsman with ZERO off side game & very loose defense without any rotating ability. Even in PSL, he was struggling to score after PP overs. At 27, he doesn't have the time learn the game from scratch.

I might sound harsh, but for a new batsman, I never see where he has sent the ball, rather how he did that. He doesn't look to me a player to invest for top 3 spots. If Imad wasn't there, may be he could have played as an opener & bowl few left-arm overs, but he is too risky to play as specialist bat. His limited shot range will result in high risk % shots.
 
Fakhar is very overrated, I wouldn't want him in my side. Much rather have Haris Sohail back in the team when he's fully recovered in addition to him bowling some spin.
 
Fakhar is very overrated, I wouldn't want him in my side. Much rather have Haris Sohail back in the team when he's fully recovered in addition to him bowling some spin.

Love Haris but i think Babar has taken his spot, Haris will be another accumaltor, he should focus on tests. Talat is the one who i think should eventually replace Malik
 
I think Shehzad and Kamran are not gonna get dropped in this series, they will play a good knock at least.
Fakhar should replace Hafeez in the line up and play at 6, because Malik and Sarfraz can't bat below 5, and I'm sure Fakhar will be better than Hafeez in every department.

middle/lower order should be this:

4) Sarfraz
5) Malik
6) Fakhar
7) Imad
8) Shadab
 
Ideally Fakhar Zaman should open as he is kind of hit and miss player. We saw it in PSL on his day he was very good and nothing on others. For me he could be tried lower down the order as a finisher and used as a floater. My order will be as follows.

1. Akmal
2. Shehzad
3. Babar
4. Malik
5. Sarfraz
6. Fakhar Z. ( Can be used as a floater if needed)
7. Shadab K.
8. I. Wasim
 
In his last domestic odi tournament he opened or played at number 3 in most of his matches. So once the kamran, Hafeez, shehzad experiment has predictably failed fakhar Zaman should open. Till then we can lose a few matches in current line up and frankly it won't matter where he bats.
 
Pakistans problem is in the top three. Plenty of volunteers to hide in the middle order and play stabilizing role at a cowardly strike rate.
 
Yes he should play,surely better then M Hafeez.
ODI Lineup:
Kamran Akmal
Ahmed Shehzad
Babar Azam
Fakhar Zaman
Sarfraz Ahmed
Shoaib Malik
Shadab Khan
Imad Wasim
Mohammmed Amir
Hasan Ali
Junaid Khan
 
Yes he should play,surely better then M Hafeez.
ODI Lineup:
Kamran Akmal
Ahmed Shehzad
Babar Azam
Fakhar Zaman
Sarfraz Ahmed
Shoaib Malik
Shadab Khan
Imad Wasim
Mohammmed Amir
Hasan Ali
Junaid Khan

this is another possible option, Malik can be used at 6, he is capable of hitting a few 6s in the death overs, Fakhar against spinners will be a good run fest to watch
 
this is another possible option, Malik can be used at 6, he is capable of hitting a few 6s in the death overs, Fakhar against spinners will be a good run fest to watch

Agreed,also i don't think Fakhar can finish well as he is not that good against pacers which could trouble him during the finishing overs where usually pacers are bowling.
 
Agreed,also i don't think Fakhar can finish well as he is not that good against pacers which could trouble him during the finishing overs where usually pacers are bowling.

No harm in trying him out. Fakhar is a decent left arm spinner too. Hafeez needs to be filtered out now, Malik has justified his longevity.

Haris and Hussain Talat are much better candidates but Fakhar should be given a chance
 
Love Haris but i think Babar has taken his spot, Haris will be another accumaltor, he should focus on tests. Talat is the one who i think should eventually replace Malik

Every team has an in-form senior, in our case it's Malik so we can't look for excuses to get rid of him. It should be Hafeez who should get booted instead. Don't really think Haris is an accumulator but the idea of a left-hand right-hand combination in the middle order will do us good and I've seen this guy hit sixes and up the RR when needed so there's no harm there. Hopefully Sharjeel gets cleared as well.
 
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