Canadians will Welcome you, Regardless of your Faith, Diversity is our Strength : Justin Trudeau

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Welcome to Canada campaign and tweets from Canadian Prime Minister's account a few minutes ago.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To those fleeing persecution, terror & war, Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WelcomeToCanada?src=hash">#WelcomeToCanada</a></p>— Justin Trudeau (@JustinTrudeau) <a href="https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/825438460265762816">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WelcomeToCanada?src=hash">#WelcomeToCanada</a> <a href="https://t.co/47edRsHLJ5">pic.twitter.com/47edRsHLJ5</a></p>— Justin Trudeau (@JustinTrudeau) <a href="https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/825441992926699520">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Mian]

A big slap from a neighbor country on trump face.

 

[Zohaib Shah]

Well its good to know Canada is availible. If things get worse here I may tell my family to move to Canada.

 

[enkidu_]

You know what's the system of the Dajjal ? It's not falsehood, because even a child can prefer the day over the night, instinctively ; it's falsehood under a prude jihab.

Like Obama, who's administration dropped 26 000 bombs on 7 Islamic majority countries in a suit and with a smile (not even mentioning the "moderate rebels" he financed in Syria in order to not sacrifice "precious" American blood), after the bogus Cairo speech, Trudeau's Canada has sold weapons worth billions to Saudi Arabia, ultimately participating in the massacre of the Yemenis.

If Trump bans all Muslims but also stops all wars in the MENA region and stop pampering Wahabbi thugs (all of which I doubt), he'll be better than Trudeau - apart from the slogans, of course.

 

[shaykh]

You know what's the system of the Dajjal ? It's not falsehood, because even a child can prefer the day over the night, instinctively ; it's falsehood under a prude jihab.

Like Obama, who's administration dropped 26 000 bombs on 7 Islamic majority countries in a suit and with a smile (not even mentioning the "moderate rebels" he financed in Syria in order to not sacrifice "precious" American blood), after the bogus Cairo speech, Trudeau's Canada has sold weapons worth billions to Saudi Arabia, ultimately participating in the massacre of the Yemenis.

If Trump bans all Muslims but also stops all wars in the MENA region and stop pampering Wahabbi thugs (all of which I doubt), he'll be better than Trudeau - apart from the slogans, of course.

He's already show where his loyalty lies regarding the Wahabis...

And on the stopping wars in the Middle East...this Jerusalem move is certainly not going to assist that..

 

[KingKhanWC]

Seems like a very good leader, Canada is lucky.

 

[PakLFC]

It doesn't take long for this to change. A terror attack happens then Muslim's will be blamed. Soon after Canada will say "we will have to reconsider or immigration and asylum policy". Generally, Canadians are better people then fascist Zionist Americans.

 

[enkidu_]

He's already show where his loyalty lies regarding the Wahabis...

And on the stopping wars in the Middle East...this Jerusalem move is certainly not going to assist that..

As I said I don't really believe he'll bring any substantial change, but at least he's honest.

 

[Syed1]

Oh Canada... Not a day goes by when you don't show why you are the absolute best country on God's green earth

 

[world cup captain]

I'm actually thinking of going to Canada for college. Here are a few questions for some desis that live in Canada if some of you could answer.
What's the best place to live in Canada for a college student? Is it affordable and how much are students on visas supported financially?

 

[Pakistanian]

Justin Trudeau says Canada will take in refugees barred by America

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...15C0RI?feedType=RSS&virtualBrandChannel=11563


This guy has a spine unlike other world leaders.

#Respect

 

[JaDed]

Posting my reply from another thread:

This will lead to a "Trump" getting elected in 4-8 years time in Canada,he isn't learning from the mistakes of Liberal leaders around the world.

Canada has already done enough for refugees around the world,they need not advertise or take it more something that can really break their country or elect another Mad man in North America.

 

[Pakistanian]

This will lead to a "Trump" getting elected in 4-8 years time in Canada,he isn't learning from the mistakes of Liberal leaders around the world.

Canada has already done enough for refugees around the world,they need not advertise or take it more something that can really break their country or elect another Mad man in North America.

You make zero sense. Canada and America have some cultural differences and the demographics and politcal system are also pretty different, so no I don't think Canada will kick out Justin and replace him with some Trump wannabe.

 

[Pakistanian]

I'm actually thinking of going to Canada for college. Here are a few questions for some desis that live in Canada if some of you could answer.
What's the best place to live in Canada for a college student? Is it affordable and how much are students on visas supported financially?

Why would you give up going to college in America to study in Canada and pay 3 times the tuition as an intl student?! UConn ain't that bad bruh.

 

[JaDed]

You make zero sense. Canada and America have some cultural differences and the demographics and politcal system are also pretty different, so no I don't think Canada will kick out Justin and replace him with some Trump wannabe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7VGE_cmnp8

Do you even follow Canadian politics mate?Its not about demographics its about being polar opposite of someone like Trump.

So many people voted against Harper because he was going on the extreme "creating far of minorities",Justin is going the other extreme,no extremes have ever been for good cause.

Anyhow the forum isn't going anywhere,lets wait and see how this goes but this has always been the case.
Also you need to see the demographics of Canada once again to get a clear idea.

 

[Moiza]

This will lead to a "Trump" getting elected in 4-8 years time in Canada,he isn't learning from the mistakes of Liberal leaders around the world.

Canada has already done enough for refugees around the world,they need not advertise or take it more something that can really break their country or elect another Mad man in North America.

Canada benefits from this. All the world talent used to go America which helped them progress to where they are today and now Canada is trying to achieve similar results. One look at major scientific works tells you how much of it is done by Americans and how much of it is done by people not born in America.

 

[kingusama92]

I'm actually thinking of going to Canada for college. Here are a few questions for some desis that live in Canada if some of you could answer.
What's the best place to live in Canada for a college student? Is it affordable and how much are students on visas supported financially?

UofT (Toronto)
UBC (Vancouver)
McGill (Montreal)

There are many other great universities in these cities too.

You can't go wrong with any of these cities but it's not cheap. It'll cost a pretty penny but you'll have a lot of fun if you're up for it.

 

[JaDed]

Canada benefits from this. All the world talent used to go America which helped them progress to where they are today and now Canada is trying to achieve similar results. One look at major scientific works tells you how much of it is done by Americans and how much of it is done by people not born in America.

The immigration patterns are diff mate,USA since almost 1960's has been really smart in the intake of its immigrants,most immigrants from other countries would have actually done well compared to say the immigrants in Europe or Canada because Americans have selective immigration.

Americans have a history of innovation and top research universities,so its easy for educated immigrants to assimilate to that aspect of American society this isn't the same for Canadians,who are very good for their population but they don't really have space or opportunities for genuinely top talents of the world,their retail chains get bought by American companies like Target and get closed off,BlackBerry has lost all steam.
The only thing Canadian right now imo is Tim Horton's and again not much outside Canada.

Canadian immigration is more similar to UK one but luckily for Canada they are big with higher natural resources and less existing Caucasian population therefore these issues don't come out that much.

 

[Rayyman]

This is just fake news. Trudeau trying to look good in front of the media. Our great president doesn't care what he looks like in the media. America is the land of the free and the home of the brave. It is and always has been the hotbed for diversity and immigrants.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

"Canadians will welcome you"

Yes unless you're a single male.

Canada will accept only whole families, lone women or children in its mass resettlement of Syrian refugees while unaccompanied men – considered a security risk – will be turned away.

Since the Paris attacks launched by Syria-linked jihadis, a plan by the new prime minister, Justin Trudeau, to fast-track the intake of 25,000 refugees by year’s end has faced growing criticism in Canada.

Details of the plan will be announced Tuesday but Canada’s ambassador to Jordan confirmed that refugees from camps in Jordan, Lebanon and Turkey will be flown to Canada from Jordan starting 1 December.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/23/canada-syrian-refugee-resettlement-plan-no-single-men

 

[Black Zero]

"Canadians will welcome you"

Yes unless you're a single male.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/23/canada-syrian-refugee-resettlement-plan-no-single-men

Nothing wrong in it.

Childern, and families with childern must be given the highest priority.

So accepting male only would be huge unfairness to the needy families.

Canada do not discriminate and actually accept on priority basis from violent and war torn places.
I. e. Tamil Tigers, victims of Bosnian war, etc. etc.

Canada welcome new immigrants ( around 1% of it's total population Every year, and doing so for many many decades). and significant number of refugees.

To boost our slowing economy, we may welcome even more immigrants to boost economy.

Though big number of immigrants are selected based on their skills, but quality comes from the diverse social system.

 

[Black Zero]

Posting my reply from another thread:

This will lead to a "Trump" getting elected in 4-8 years time in Canada,he isn't learning from the mistakes of Liberal leaders around the world.

Canada has already done enough for refugees around the world,they need not advertise or take it more something that can really break their country or elect another Mad man in North America.

Nope

We have 3 major parties, liberals, ndp, conservative and 2 small parties, green and part Québecois.

Harper did not have the simple majority first time around and when both liberals and NDP planned a no confidence vote against Harper, he advised governor Geral to suspend parliament and then parliament got suspended.

Imo, there are only 25-30% politically right voters in canada,

Even in the local quebec elections, voters rejected "charter of values" and parties are shifting to left with the changing demographic.

 

[JaDed]

Nope

We have 3 major parties, liberals, ndp, conservative and 2 small parties, green and part Québecois.

Harper did not have the simple majority first time around and when both liberals and NDP planned a no confidence vote against Harper, he advised governor Geral to suspend parliament and then parliament got suspended.

Imo, there are only 25-30% politically right voters in canada,

Even in the local quebec elections, voters rejected "charter of values" and parties are shifting to left with the changing demographic.

True but there is a difference between politically right to swinging right for an election ,do you think there are so many right wing voters in America?No there aren't there were many who wanted to be heard and they chose this as a path for the same.

 

[ahsan17]

Nothing wrong in it.

Childern, and families with childern must be given the highest priority.

So accepting male only would be huge unfairness to the needy families.

Canada do not discriminate and actually accept on priority basis from violent and war torn places.
I. e. Tamil Tigers, victims of Bosnian war, etc. etc.

Canada welcome new immigrants ( around 1% of it's total population Every year, and doing so for many many decades). and significant number of refugees.

To boost our slowing economy, we may welcome even more immigrants to boost economy.

Though big number of immigrants are selected based on their skills, but quality comes from the diverse social system.

What about single women? Why are they allowed but not single men?

 

[ahsan17]

Why would you give up going to college in America to study in Canada and pay 3 times the tuition as an intl student?! UConn ain't that bad bruh.

Universities for international students in Canada can cost less than universities in the US for in-state students.

 

[Black Zero]

What about single women? Why are they allowed but not single men?

In a world where we have achieved complete equality between genders, then I would agree with your objection.

Sadly, we have not reached to this point yet and hence the preference of women over men.

But, this suggests that the core criteria for selection is to help the most vulnerable. As bringing lone women is also riskier than brining a family but canada is courageously acrept ing this risk.

 

[Black Zero]

True but there is a difference between politically right to swinging right for an election ,do you think there are so many right wing voters in America?No there aren't there were many who wanted to be heard and they chose this as a path for the same.

I think in usa, there are about 45% politically right voters. (John McCain, Kerry and earlier republicans candidates got similar percentage votes + few points)

So we have totally different demographic, GA, which is the most populous region in canada.

There could still be a swing, but that would be between NDP and Liberals, in our latest elections, NDP was well ahead in polls, but lost lead in couple of weeks times, when NDP leader took a firm stand against burqa ban. Liberal stayed mum on it and then they were the leaders in polls and eventually won in land slide.

Before election, SC gave verdict against Harper govt regarding burqa ban (during oath ceremony) but when liberals came to power, they did not appeal.

 

[Bewal Express]

I just hope there is no attack on Canada from someone granted asylum.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I just hope there is no attack on Canada from someone granted asylum.

From a propaganda point of view it would be a big vindication for Trump's policy if there was.

 

[JaDed]

I think in usa, there are about 45% politically right voters. (John McCain, Kerry and earlier republicans candidates got similar percentage votes + few points)

So we have totally different demographic, GA, which is the most populous region in canada.

There could still be a swing, but that would be between NDP and Liberals, in our latest elections, NDP was well ahead in polls, but lost lead in couple of weeks times, when NDP leader took a firm stand against burqa ban. Liberal stayed mum on it and then they were the leaders in polls and eventually won in land slide.

Before election, SC gave verdict against Harper govt regarding burqa ban (during oath ceremony) but when liberals came to power, they did not appeal.

Fair argument but I think u r simplifying the loss of NDP they did a major embarrassing stuff no offense.

 

[Adil_94]

Trudeau uses "progressive" politics to mask his flaws in other area. The Let them All in approach isnt gonna help either especially after whats emerged in Germany it will just result in a Conservative anti-immigration PM being elected next time. Liberal elites in Western countries have been repeatedly slapped in 2016 with Brexit and Trump and Le Pen surging in the polls in France yet still dont learn. You have to find a balance between Trump and ultra liberal progressivism

 

[Black Zero]

Fair argument but I think u r simplifying the loss of NDP they did a major embarrassing stuff no offense.

Embarrassing stuff??

 

[JaDed]

Embarrassing stuff??

My bad thought Bance was from NDP.

 

[Black Zero]

Trudeau uses "progressive" politics to mask his flaws in other area. The Let them All in approach isnt gonna help either especially after whats emerged in Germany it will just result in a Conservative anti-immigration PM being elected next time. Liberal elites in Western countries have been repeatedly slapped in 2016 with Brexit and Trump and Le Pen surging in the polls in France yet still dont learn. You have to find a balance between Trump and ultra liberal progressivism

Even if Canada elect trump like figure, he would not be able to do anything.

Harper had majority government, but most of his stands got challenged and eventually defeated in court.

There is just no match to our justice system in the world.

Canada cannot have anti immigration policy for at least next 50 years.

 

[Thivagar]

Posting my reply from another thread:

This will lead to a "Trump" getting elected in 4-8 years time in Canada,he isn't learning from the mistakes of Liberal leaders around the world.

Canada has already done enough for refugees around the world,they need not advertise or take it more something that can really break their country or elect another Mad man in North America.

You make zero sense. Canada and America have some cultural differences and the demographics and politcal system are also pretty different, so no I don't think Canada will kick out Justin and replace him with some Trump wannabe.

Both of you are somewhat correct. His popularity is going down . People are not happy with arrival of many Muslims refugees from troubled regions of the world. It is a fact, people won't admit but it is true. Comments like this won't definitely help his popularity. Trudeau is smart, he is giving more priority to families with young children. The biggest mess is when you get flock of youths in to your country and in Europe this seems to be the biggest issue as youths are more likely to take the daring route. By giving more priority to the families you temporarily block youths from arriving. Canada will never receive many refugees from Syria as Europe. Due to the high cost of illegal procedure to enter Canada, we will only get educated and or wealthy refugees who are generally trouble free. Since most of the new arrivals are expected to be families with young children the parents will be more grateful and the kids can be easily accommodated to the society. It only takes few months for a child to catch on to English. I worked for a school board for few months and visited at least 35+schools mostly in the morning and during the dismissals. Kids don't see colour, race or even gender for the most part. I saw a little girl with hijab introduce her new friends to her mom one by one and it was very heart warming to see. Syrian refugees have faced lot of trauma, they will be happy to have a country that welcomes them unlike the Iraqi,Afghan refugees and Somalian refugees. We already have 15,000 Syrian refugees here and no one even notice that they are already here. Trudeau's government is approving tons of new public infrastructures and expanding the ones we currently have. No body cares how much debt our country has but long as more buses, subways, trains, parks and so on are coming Trudeau will always be ahead. Recently we are told that we don't have to pay our student loans until we start making more than $25,000 a year and starting 2017-September University and Colleges will be free for family making less than $50,000 a year. Families making more than $50,000 a year are generally conservative supporters anyway as they don't support high taxes. When next election comes along even if conservative nominates a strong leader people will look back at what he did and will surely vote for him. He is here for another 15 to 20 years.

 

[Thivagar]

I just hope there is no attack on Canada from someone granted asylum.

It will be too expensive and ton of work for ISIS to send someone to attack Canada. They are better of targeting Europe. Giving priority to family is another way of blocking youths from entering Canada. No one is walking to Canada or sailing on a boat to Canada. The ones that will get here will be educated and the wealthy families. Educated people are less threat.

 

[Justcrazy]

I'm actually thinking of going to Canada for college. Here are a few questions for some desis that live in Canada if some of you could answer.
What's the best place to live in Canada for a college student? Is it affordable and how much are students on visas supported financially?

I think best place is obviously Ontario , if you looking for jobs. I have seen my friends come here from other provinces.

 

[ahsan17]

In a world where we have achieved complete equality between genders, then I would agree with your objection.

Sadly, we have not reached to this point yet and hence the preference of women over men.

But, this suggests that the core criteria for selection is to help the most vulnerable. As bringing lone women is also riskier than brining a family but canada is courageously acrept ing this risk.

Sorry but the "most vulnerable" argument isn't backed by statistics. We like to think women are far more vulnerable than men, but statistics will show across the globe that innocent men are far more likely to get killed or be seriously injured in violence than men. It's no different in Syria, where men are by far the ones most killed, often because they are assumed to be for one group or another.

 

[Black Zero]

Sorry but the "most vulnerable" argument isn't backed by statistics. We like to think women are far more vulnerable than men, but statistics will show across the globe that innocent men are far more likely to get killed or be seriously injured in violence than men. It's no different in Syria, where men are by far the ones most killed, often because they are assumed to be for one group or another.

Please share your stats so we can rationalize.

 

[ahsan17]

Please share your stats so we can rationalize.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/9/29/25-percent-of-syrian-war-deaths-women-children.html

75% killed were men.

 

[Black Zero]

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/9/29/25-percent-of-syrian-war-deaths-women-children.html

75% killed were men.

I asked for vulnerable.

 

[ahsan17]

I asked for vulnerable.

Not sure I understand. How does this not show who is most vulnerable to the Syrian war?

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Liberal, Secular, Progressive

Best PM on Planet Earth.

I am Jealous :-(


<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The community spirit felt at Ramadan food banks in Montreal & Toronto reminds us all: no matter our backgrounds, we're in this together. <a href="https://t.co/OcqvWmBaKK">pic.twitter.com/OcqvWmBaKK</a></p>— Justin Trudeau (@JustinTrudeau) <a href="https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/878785048182493189">June 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[PakLFC]

That is why everyone is eager to get to Canada. It's just a matter of time before some right wing part in Canada goes all mental as well.

 

[proud_pakistani]

Praises were sung of General Zia Ul Haq when he accepted refugees from Afghanistan in the 70s. Many years down the line Zia Ul Haq is considered as one of the reasons why Pakistan has become radicalized. I wonder what people will think of Trudeau 30-40 years from now.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

That is why everyone is eager to get to Canada. It's just a matter of time before some right wing part in Canada goes all mental as well.

Praises were sung of General Zia Ul Haq when he accepted refugees from Afghanistan in the 70s. Many years down the line Zia Ul Haq is considered as one of the reasons why Pakistan has become radicalized. I wonder what people will think of Trudeau 30-40 years from now.

When I say that I am practising Muslim but for Pakistan I want Liberal, Secular, Progressive government I get alot of Abuses.


The Extremists see Liberal & Secular as Anti Islam and a threat to Islam. They have their own definition of Liberal & Secular. Talk to any Modoodi or Mahmoodi followers and they will unleash all their anger on you as if there is mo tomorrow.


The Best Era was the Era when the top Scientist's and top achiever's wrt Worldly achievements were Muslims. They excelled in Edu and refrained from sword misuse. They were fuly practicing muslims but they did not enforce their faith or beliefs on others.

They are liberal, secular, progressive & educated and it was golden Muslim Age. They knew how to balance worldly aswell as religious Life.


Today Canada has shown much more hospitality for Muslims than many muslim countries. They are welcoming migrants especially from.conflict striken areas as State Guests. Shame on Muslim countries whose borders are closed for such muslims yet they cry Ummah Ummah.


Canadian agencies just need to monitor use of Internet of migrants so that anyone who has dubious interactions or extremists ideologies should ne nabbed before any untoward incidence and gets counselled and rehab.

 

[saeedhk]

Isn't his government selling weapons to Saudi Arabia to bomb Yemen?

 

[Black Zero]

Isn't his government selling weapons to Saudi Arabia to bomb Yemen?

Previous (conservative) govt had signed contracts to deliver tanks to KSA. There was a debate to cancel that contract however liberals decided to honor the contract but no new such contracts, as far as I know.

Canada is rich, but population wise its a small country.

 

[Specialisttailender]

I will vote for him once in become a resident of Canada. He is losing popularity as of now.

 

[Specialisttailender]

Both of you are somewhat correct. His popularity is going down . People are not happy with arrival of many Muslims refugees from troubled regions of the world. It is a fact, people won't admit but it is true. Comments like this won't definitely help his popularity. Trudeau is smart, he is giving more priority to families with young children. The biggest mess is when you get flock of youths in to your country and in Europe this seems to be the biggest issue as youths are more likely to take the daring route. By giving more priority to the families you temporarily block youths from arriving. Canada will never receive many refugees from Syria as Europe. Due to the high cost of illegal procedure to enter Canada, we will only get educated and or wealthy refugees who are generally trouble free. Since most of the new arrivals are expected to be families with young children the parents will be more grateful and the kids can be easily accommodated to the society. It only takes few months for a child to catch on to English. I worked for a school board for few months and visited at least 35+schools mostly in the morning and during the dismissals. Kids don't see colour, race or even gender for the most part. I saw a little girl with hijab introduce her new friends to her mom one by one and it was very heart warming to see. Syrian refugees have faced lot of trauma, they will be happy to have a country that welcomes them unlike the Iraqi,Afghan refugees and Somalian refugees. We already have 15,000 Syrian refugees here and no one even notice that they are already here. Trudeau's government is approving tons of new public infrastructures and expanding the ones we currently have. No body cares how much debt our country has but long as more buses, subways, trains, parks and so on are coming Trudeau will always be ahead. Recently we are told that we don't have to pay our student loans until we start making more than $25,000 a year and starting 2017-September University and Colleges will be free for family making less than $50,000 a year. Families making more than $50,000 a year are generally conservative supporters anyway as they don't support high taxes. When next election comes along even if conservative nominates a strong leader people will look back at what he did and will surely vote for him. He is here for another 15 to 20 years.

He is gone in the next election.

 

[Robert]

You know what's the system of the Dajjal ? It's not falsehood, because even a child can prefer the day over the night, instinctively ; it's falsehood under a prude jihab.

Like Obama, who's administration dropped 26 000 bombs on 7 Islamic majority countries in a suit and with a smile (not even mentioning the "moderate rebels" he financed in Syria in order to not sacrifice "precious" American blood), after the bogus Cairo speech, Trudeau's Canada has sold weapons worth billions to Saudi Arabia, ultimately participating in the massacre of the Yemenis.

If Trump bans all Muslims but also stops all wars in the MENA region and stop pampering Wahabbi thugs (all of which I doubt), he'll be better than Trudeau - apart from the slogans, of course.

But he won't.

If the Canucks stop selling to the Saudis, they will get their weapons elsewhere, perhaps from the Russians or the French.