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Last year Iraq's parliament voted for US troops to leave their country. There is no longer any thought of Iraqis wanting Americans to occupy their land.

Biden said while being sworn in ""This is America’s day, this is democracy’s day, the day of history and hope. Today we celebrate a triumph, not of a candidate, but of a cause. We have learned again that democracy is precious democracy is fragile. At this hour my friends, Democracy has prevailed.""

Biden was one of 77 Senators to vote for the Iraq war(2003). He even championed a motion in order to persuade others who were against the invasion to support it.

Is he a hypocrite and fake or will he stick by his words of democracy previaling and give the Iraqi people the same respect or does he prefer browns to be occupied rather than have democratic freedom?
 
There is no way the Gulf nations would want the US to withdraw and leave it open for Iran. Esp now that they have recognised Israel there will be massive pressure from them on the US to not leave Iraq. I expect another massive arms deal worth billions to bribe the US to stay. Mark my words.
 
Biden and even Obama is a hypocrite. There is no democratic values in both of them. Both conspired to destroy democracies and regime change in several countries, and it is not the end. I am guaranteeing you all that atleast 1 war and 2 regime changes would be done by Biden administration in the next 3 years. You can tag this post. I infact am hearing rumours of troops being stationed in Georgia now and additional troops added to Afghanistan (instead of pulling them all out by April-2021, as per Afghan Peace Accords).
 
There is no way the Gulf nations would want the US to withdraw and leave it open for Iran. Esp now that they have recognised Israel there will be massive pressure from them on the US to not leave Iraq. I expect another massive arms deal worth billions to bribe the US to stay. Mark my words.

Cant argue against this.

But surely Biden who has been harping on about how important democracy is , should accept the democratic decision of the Iraqi people & parliament to withdraw?
 
Biden and even Obama is a hypocrite. There is no democratic values in both of them. Both conspired to destroy democracies and regime change in several countries, and it is not the end. I am guaranteeing you all that atleast 1 war and 2 regime changes would be done by Biden administration in the next 3 years. You can tag this post. I infact am hearing rumours of troops being stationed in Georgia now and additional troops added to Afghanistan (instead of pulling them all out by April-2021, as per Afghan Peace Accords).

I though he was a liberal person, caring about rights for others? He cares about brown & black people for equal rights?

Or is he wanting Yankee troops occupying Iraq and Afghanistan in order for them to be ready & present if and when he decides its time for a war with Iran?
 
Biden was rambling on how Russia interfered with the 2016 election and democracy was under attack.

Now he's won, there was no foreign interference and democracy has prevailed.

Hypocrite indeed.

As for Iraq, Biden was championing for war, we know the rest. He also supported every war as VP between 200x to 2016. Cannot believe the people voted for a warmongering President.
 
Biden was rambling on how Russia interfered with the 2016 election and democracy was under attack.

Now he's won, there was no foreign interference and democracy has prevailed.

Hypocrite indeed.

As for Iraq, Biden was championing for war, we know the rest. He also supported every war as VP between 200x to 2016. Cannot believe the people voted for a warmongering President.

It seems sleepy Joe is a champion of democracy as long as he becomes President. He hasnt mentioned giving democratic rights to dozens of nations and people occupied around the world, mainly due to US policies.

His son Beau Biden 'served' more than once in Iraq, Biden himself visited the occupied land championing his occuyping troops. His son died years later and Biden still speaks of his bravery in Iraq. The guy is a fake , a phony and a warmonger.
 
Cant argue against this.

But surely Biden who has been harping on about how important democracy is , should accept the democratic decision of the Iraqi people & parliament to withdraw?

For the US democracy only works when it's their interest. Iraq does not want the US in Iraq as they're Shia majority and close to Iran which ofcourse the Americans would never want. I do expect their power to erode though, I think China will exert themselves more this next decade
 
Biden is basically a moderate Republican, so I wouldn't be surprised if that would be the case.

However, I don't think he'll assassinate top-ranking generals like Trump did with Suleimani. Biden has a horrible track record, and a large proportion those who voted for him only did so because he was seen as the lesser of two evils.
 
It seems sleepy Joe is a champion of democracy as long as he becomes President. He hasnt mentioned giving democratic rights to dozens of nations and people occupied around the world, mainly due to US policies.

His son Beau Biden 'served' more than once in Iraq, Biden himself visited the occupied land championing his occuyping troops. His son died years later and Biden still speaks of his bravery in Iraq. The guy is a fake , a phony and a warmonger.

Biden announced a number of EOs to reverse Trump's policies. Iran deal and China tarrifs were not announced. His son is a front man for sleepy Joe's dodgy dealings.

Biden has Iran in sight.
 
Last year Iraq's parliament voted for US troops to leave their country. There is no longer any thought of Iraqis wanting Americans to occupy their land.

Biden said while being sworn in ""This is America’s day, this is democracy’s day, the day of history and hope. Today we celebrate a triumph, not of a candidate, but of a cause. We have learned again that democracy is precious democracy is fragile. At this hour my friends, Democracy has prevailed.""

Biden was one of 77 Senators to vote for the Iraq war(2003). He even championed a motion in order to persuade others who were against the invasion to support it.

Is he a hypocrite and fake or will he stick by his words of democracy previaling and give the Iraqi people the same respect or does he prefer browns to be occupied rather than have democratic freedom?

Occupied, my foot. The Iraqi government asked USA to send troops and aircraft to help them fight ISIL. Several other Western governments are helping the Iraqi government too.
 
For the US democracy only works when it's their interest. Iraq does not want the US in Iraq as they're Shia majority and close to Iran which ofcourse the Americans would never want. I do expect their power to erode though, I think China will exert themselves more this next decade

So Biden is a liar or at best hypocrite. You cannot champion democracy but only for your own people.

Yes mostly Shia but the parliament inc Sunnis all voted to removal of US troops. From day 1, the invasions of Iraq, Libya and other nations was more to do with protecting Israel.
 
Occupied, my foot. The Iraqi government asked USA to send troops and aircraft to help them fight ISIL. Several other Western governments are helping the Iraqi government too.

There was no ISIL or ISIS in 2003.

You have failed to address the key point, please try. Iraqi parliament has voted for US to leave. Why havent they and will they now we have Biden the hero of democracy?
 
There was no ISIL or ISIS in 2003.

You have failed to address the key point, please try. Iraqi parliament has voted for US to leave. Why havent they and will they now we have Biden the hero of democracy?

There were no WMDs either!

Not a single supporter of warmongering Presidents supports the withdrawal of troops in Iraq, or will condemn and support war criminal trials of Jnr Bush and Tony Blair. No, they are happy to accept the loss of 100000s innocent lives for the sake of democracy but weep when Covid 19 kills a few hundred a day.
 
There were no WMDs either!

Not a single supporter of warmongering Presidents supports the withdrawal of troops in Iraq, or will condemn and support war criminal trials of Jnr Bush and Tony Blair. No, they are happy to accept the loss of 100000s innocent lives for the sake of democracy but weep when Covid 19 kills a few hundred a day.
[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] was in tears watching Biden swearing his oaths. Not sure how he will be able to defend this or perhaps he thinks the same as Biden, democracy for him and his party but the rest can suffer in war and destruction within their own lands.
 
So Biden is a liar or at best hypocrite. You cannot champion democracy but only for your own people.

Yes mostly Shia but the parliament inc Sunnis all voted to removal of US troops. From day 1, the invasions of Iraq, Libya and other nations was more to do with protecting Israel.

That's what I meant. Without US interference Iraq and Iran would be closer as both are Shia. Which would not only be unacceptable to the US but also their Gulf partners. So there is no way they will leave. As for democracy, all these slogans have been lies for decades. The US is happy supporting vile dictators from Latin America to the Middle East to Africa when it suits them.
 
[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] was in tears watching Biden swearing his oaths. Not sure how he will be able to defend this or perhaps he thinks the same as Biden, democracy for him and his party but the rest can suffer in war and destruction within their own lands.

You've highlighted a crucial point. If someone cares for human life then reagardless of where innocent lives are lost, there should be consistency.

In the West the majority are conditioned by the media to only care for their own countrymen but not abroad.

Iraq 2003 turned out to be a war driven by - wait for this - FAKE NEW and a personal agenda. Almost 20 years on, US will never pull out troops from Iraq (though Trump did reduce troops in Iraq and Afghanistan).

The worst part? Iraq was never involved in 9/11. The 'official' 9/11 report concluded this. Not to mention the Chilcot report which was delayed for years because politicians redatcted information.
 
That's what I meant. Without US interference Iraq and Iran would be closer as both are Shia. Which would not only be unacceptable to the US but also their Gulf partners. So there is no way they will leave. As for democracy, all these slogans have been lies for decades. The US is happy supporting vile dictators from Latin America to the Middle East to Africa when it suits them.

I think he told so many lies even for his own domestic audience, strange how some are so easily fooled thinking this guy is somehow here to provide justice to all. These poor people have been fooled by him too.

Thousands of asylum seekers stranded in border cities for more than a year under the Trump-era MPP have been told to stay put.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5b...tMCsjnH0D5ZwHNqpFC9vVs6Ka3fKi54DSKExk2IACxdWw

You've highlighted a crucial point. If someone cares for human life then reagardless of where innocent lives are lost, there should be consistency.

In the West the majority are conditioned by the media to only care for their own countrymen but not abroad.

Iraq 2003 turned out to be a war driven by - wait for this - FAKE NEW and a personal agenda. Almost 20 years on, US will never pull out troops from Iraq (though Trump did reduce troops in Iraq and Afghanistan).

The worst part? Iraq was never involved in 9/11. The 'official' 9/11 report concluded this. Not to mention the Chilcot report which was delayed for years because politicians redatcted information.


Biden knew there was no WMD's, he knew Iraq had nothing to do with 911, he knows no Afghani is a threat to his country. He knows Israel is oppressing people against democracy. He knows Cubans want to live in peace without US interference but he only wants them to suffer more. His own friends Antifa have been rioting for days now since his oath but suddenly CNN and his party have gone mute. Cat got their tounge?
 
I think he told so many lies even for his own domestic audience, strange how some are so easily fooled thinking this guy is somehow here to provide justice to all. These poor people have been fooled by him too.



https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5b...tMCsjnH0D5ZwHNqpFC9vVs6Ka3fKi54DSKExk2IACxdWw




Biden knew there was no WMD's, he knew Iraq had nothing to do with 911, he knows no Afghani is a threat to his country. He knows Israel is oppressing people against democracy. He knows Cubans want to live in peace without US interference but he only wants them to suffer more. His own friends Antifa have been rioting for days now since his oath but suddenly CNN and his party have gone mute. Cat got their tounge?

If you recall, with respect to CNN, they kept having COVID-19 ticket on their website with deaths, infections, etc. since the pandemic started till Nov-3rd election result date. Since the result came out, the ticker has been missing.

I notice Dawn do the same thing too
 
I think he told so many lies even for his own domestic audience, strange how some are so easily fooled thinking this guy is somehow here to provide justice to all. These poor people have been fooled by him too.



https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5b...tMCsjnH0D5ZwHNqpFC9vVs6Ka3fKi54DSKExk2IACxdWw




Biden knew there was no WMD's, he knew Iraq had nothing to do with 911, he knows no Afghani is a threat to his country. He knows Israel is oppressing people against democracy. He knows Cubans want to live in peace without US interference but he only wants them to suffer more. His own friends Antifa have been rioting for days now since his oath but suddenly CNN and his party have gone mute. Cat got their tounge?

Spot on, yet Trump was depicted the evil racist, despite his predecessors waging war on nations for no reason other than personal and Zionist agenda. The real racists.
 
If you recall, with respect to CNN, they kept having COVID-19 ticket on their website with deaths, infections, etc. since the pandemic started till Nov-3rd election result date. Since the result came out, the ticker has been missing.

I notice Dawn do the same thing too

Yes I do but didnt realise it's been taken down, Wow! Seem a deliberate attempt to paint Trump as the one to blame for those deaths. Now Biden has said the toll go up by another 250,000 while the CDC have said another 100k in a few more weeks. He wont be even questioned properly but will blame Trump along with his CNN buddies. The man is a total fraud in every aspect.
 
Yes I do but didnt realise it's been taken down, Wow! Seem a deliberate attempt to paint Trump as the one to blame for those deaths. Now Biden has said the toll go up by another 250,000 while the CDC have said another 100k in a few more weeks. He wont be even questioned properly but will blame Trump along with his CNN buddies. The man is a total fraud in every aspect.

It adds further evidence of the media agenda against Trump.
 
There was no ISIL or ISIS in 2003.

You have failed to address the key point, please try. Iraqi parliament has voted for US to leave. Why havent they and will they now we have Biden the hero of democracy?
[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] Sorry if you missed this but please confirm you respect Iraqi soverignty and democracy but agree Biden should also do so by pulling the occupying troops out of their country? Or is it onlyl democray for the white western world but the brown eastern world can be occupied, bombed, sanctioned, oppressed and controlled by the good guys, the western nations?
 
There was no ISIL or ISIS in 2003.

You have failed to address the key point, please try. Iraqi parliament has voted for US to leave. Why havent they and will they now we have Biden the hero of democracy?

It isn’t 2003. The situation has changed. In 2014 the Iraqi gov asked USA and allies for help in defeating ISIL. In January 2020 the Iraqi gov asked the Americans to leave. Trump initially refused but then started draw-down. USA and Spain have handed air bases back to the Iraqi government. I believe the deployment is down to 3000.

I don’t know what Biden will do - some sort of deployment may be considered necessary as a buffer against Iran.
 
[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] Sorry if you missed this but please confirm you respect Iraqi soverignty and democracy but agree Biden should also do so by pulling the occupying troops out of their country? Or is it onlyl democray for the white western world but the brown eastern world can be occupied, bombed, sanctioned, oppressed and controlled by the good guys, the western nations?

I would say so. I guess it depends on what Iran does next as I said.
 
It isn’t 2003. The situation has changed. In 2014 the Iraqi gov asked USA and allies for help in defeating ISIL. In January 2020 the Iraqi gov asked the Americans to leave. Trump initially refused but then started draw-down. USA and Spain have handed air bases back to the Iraqi government. I believe the deployment is down to 3000.

I don’t know what Biden will do - some sort of deployment may be considered necessary as a buffer against Iran.

Unsure if it's necessary to deploy any troops in Iran. They'll sign the nuclear agreement again that Trump left. Biden was definitely a war hawk in his day, but I think he knows that his base will turn against him if he starts any new wars. So he'll probably do the right thing for the wrong reasons.

The reason for the huge tensions in Iran are due to Trump scrapping he nuclear agreement despite Iran following it to a tee, and because he executed their top general despite the US fighting with him against ISIS. For such an anti-war president, he sure loves to escalate.

The US had a great chance with Bernie Sanders, or even Andrew Yang, and they squandered it. Their last president was a crazy, insecure, conspiratorial reality TV star, and their current president is a moderate Republican masquerading as a democrat, who said he'd veto Medicare for All and has pledged his allegiance to Israel. Ah, what could have been.
 
Knew it. Iran is now a target and the public falling for it.
[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] do you agree with Trump pulling out of the Iran deal?
 
Unsure if it's necessary to deploy any troops in Iran. They'll sign the nuclear agreement again that Trump left. Biden was definitely a war hawk in his day, but I think he knows that his base will turn against him if he starts any new wars. So he'll probably do the right thing for the wrong reasons.

The reason for the huge tensions in Iran are due to Trump scrapping he nuclear agreement despite Iran following it to a tee, and because he executed their top general despite the US fighting with him against ISIS. For such an anti-war president, he sure loves to escalate.

The US had a great chance with Bernie Sanders, or even Andrew Yang, and they squandered it. Their last president was a crazy, insecure, conspiratorial reality TV star, and their current president is a moderate Republican masquerading as a democrat, who said he'd veto Medicare for All and has pledged his allegiance to Israel. Ah, what could have been.

Biden as a moderate Republican is actually a very accurate description. I knew they'd sabotage Sanders, which they did. And sadly don't think Sanders will fight for another election.
 
Biden as a moderate Republican is actually a very accurate description. I knew they'd sabotage Sanders, which they did. And sadly don't think Sanders will fight for another election.

Very true, he was one of the few good politicians left. Very strange to see the Trump cheerleaders on this forum, many of which would have stormed the Capitol if they were US citizens, it seems.
 
No war was the only positive thing from Trump’s tenure. I still deem him unfit to rule a house, let alone a whole country.

Biden would’ve been a perfect choice for dems. Sorry but Biden is just another war mongerer like bush and Obama.
 
No war was the only positive thing from Trump’s tenure. I still deem him unfit to rule a house, let alone a whole country.

Biden would’ve been a perfect choice for dems. Sorry but Biden is just another war mongerer like bush and Obama.

You mean Bernie would had been perfect,yes.
How is the keystone news being handled in your province?

I see many across social media saying, people need to evolve etc.. what they don’t realize is this will create even more disenfranchised folks.
 
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You mean Bernie would had been perfect,yes.
How is the keystone news being handled in your province?

I see many across social media saying, people need to evolve etc.. what they don’t realize is this will create even more disenfranchised folks.

Bernie was on the verge of beating Clinton in the DNC nomination back in 2016 and was cheated out of the nomination.

Bernie was on the verge on becoming the DNC nomination in 2020 until Biden came out of retirement and went into the basement.

Anyone who believes the political establishement is a fair process in the USA needs a reality check.

Corrupt to the hilt.
 
No war was the only positive thing from Trump’s tenure. I still deem him unfit to rule a house, let alone a whole country.

Biden would’ve been a perfect choice for dems. Sorry but Biden is just another war mongerer like bush and Obama.

Bernie was painted as a socialist; yet many Americans pick up the social security checks on a weekly basis.

Biden is not the perfect choice; he too is unfit mentally, he is literally losing his mind.

The Republican senators (50 of them) will make life difficult for Biden. Impeaching Trump could harm Republicans chances of maintaining the lions share of 75M votes for the Republican party.

Impeach Trump, and they risk losing a fair chunk of the votes.

The game has only just begun.
 
You mean Bernie would had been perfect,yes.
How is the keystone news being handled in your province?

I see many across social media saying, people need to evolve etc.. what they don’t realize is this will create even more disenfranchised folks.

Well in all honestly we all were expecting it. It has everything to do with politics and almost nothing to do with environment. TC energy is powering the pipeline with renewables, canadian oil and gas is #1 when it comes to emissions and environmental standards, yet they see this hate. 15,000 jobs are affected as a result of this over some myth that pipeline is bad and oil by rail is fine (they still transport it by rail).

So yeah, mood is very bad, some people like giannis is rejoicing over job losses where where majority while collar workers are visible minority.

In regards to the industry, they have 3 pipelines in operation (line 3, line 5, tmx) apart from the old keystone. So it does fulfill the bottleneck. Since demand is projected to increase this decade, a 4th pipeline is required and that is where KXL was beneficial. Well, I honestly don’t blame Biden, unfortunately Canada isn’t so divided right now and there is nothing but politics played at the expense of people’s jobs. If Canadians are like this why blame some other country?

Jagmeet talks about green jobs but he has no clue what that is. Green Party talks about the same yet they don’t have solution. You can’t export “green energy”, it is merely localized based on what the source is. There is room for all types of every, but shunning one down is just pathetic. I feel people are not educated enough on this topic, hence they just read what social media says and they become “experts”.
 
Bernie was painted as a socialist; yet many Americans pick up the social security checks on a weekly basis.

Biden is not the perfect choice; he too is unfit mentally, he is literally losing his mind.

The Republican senators (50 of them) will make life difficult for Biden. Impeaching Trump could harm Republicans chances of maintaining the lions share of 75M votes for the Republican party.

Impeach Trump, and they risk losing a fair chunk of the votes.

The game has only just begun.

Trump did some good that I liked but I think he is not mentally fit to rule even a house, let alone a country. North America is way more divided because of him. It is good if he is impeached so he can never be back.
 
Unsure if it's necessary to deploy any troops in Iran. They'll sign the nuclear agreement again that Trump left. Biden was definitely a war hawk in his day, but I think he knows that his base will turn against him if he starts any new wars. So he'll probably do the right thing for the wrong reasons.

The reason for the huge tensions in Iran are due to Trump scrapping he nuclear agreement despite Iran following it to a tee, and because he executed their top general despite the US fighting with him against ISIS. For such an anti-war president, he sure loves to escalate.

The US had a great chance with Bernie Sanders, or even Andrew Yang, and they squandered it. Their last president was a crazy, insecure, conspiratorial reality TV star, and their current president is a moderate Republican masquerading as a democrat, who said he'd veto Medicare for All and has pledged his allegiance to Israel. Ah, what could have been.

I didn’t say troops will be deployed in Iran. That would start a war. But remember that Iran attacked US troops in Iraq with rocket fire in retaliation fir the assassination of the beloved General by Trump.

I would expect Biden to reimpose US support for the Iran nuclear deal that Trump pulled out of.
 
Knew it. Iran is now a target and the public falling for it.

[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] do you agree with Trump pulling out of the Iran deal?

No, it was the usual transactional thinking by Trump. Iran was playing ball with the West. Then Trump destabilised the situation with the broken deal and the assassination of the beloved General.
 
I didn’t say troops will be deployed in Iran. That would start a war. But remember that Iran attacked US troops in Iraq with rocket fire in retaliation fir the assassination of the beloved General by Trump.

I would expect Biden to reimpose US support for the Iran nuclear deal that Trump pulled out of.

It all stems from American regime change in Iran during the 50s when a democratically elected leader of Iran was ousted in favour of a USA puppet.

You cannot put blame on Iran over a few rockets, USA's love for regime change is the root cause of this, and 70 years on, the West still blames Iran and views them as the bogeyman.
 
It all stems from American regime change in Iran during the 50s when a democratically elected leader of Iran was ousted in favour of a USA puppet.

You cannot put blame on Iran over a few rockets, USA's love for regime change is the root cause of this, and 70 years on, the West still blames Iran and views them as the bogeyman.

I know about Mossadeq, MI6 helped the coup because Anglo-Iranian Oil Company was about to be nationalised. They have hated UK Gov ever since.
 
I know about Mossadeq, MI6 helped the coup because Anglo-Iranian Oil Company was about to be nationalised. They have hated UK Gov ever since.

At the behest of Truman.

So it's not Iran that has to play ball, it's the West.
 
I didn’t say troops will be deployed in Iran. That would start a war. But remember that Iran attacked US troops in Iraq with rocket fire in retaliation fir the assassination of the beloved General by Trump.

I would expect Biden to reimpose US support for the Iran nuclear deal that Trump pulled out of.

I think Biden has confirmed he will reinstate the deal, which is very good. Not a fan at all, but re-joining the Paris Climate Agreement and the Iran Deal are both good things.
 
Well in all honestly we all were expecting it. It has everything to do with politics and almost nothing to do with environment. TC energy is powering the pipeline with renewables, canadian oil and gas is #1 when it comes to emissions and environmental standards, yet they see this hate. 15,000 jobs are affected as a result of this over some myth that pipeline is bad and oil by rail is fine (they still transport it by rail).

So yeah, mood is very bad, some people like giannis is rejoicing over job losses where where majority while collar workers are visible minority.

In regards to the industry, they have 3 pipelines in operation (line 3, line 5, tmx) apart from the old keystone. So it does fulfill the bottleneck. Since demand is projected to increase this decade, a 4th pipeline is required and that is where KXL was beneficial. Well, I honestly don’t blame Biden, unfortunately Canada isn’t so divided right now and there is nothing but politics played at the expense of people’s jobs. If Canadians are like this why blame some other country?

Jagmeet talks about green jobs but he has no clue what that is. Green Party talks about the same yet they don’t have solution. You can’t export “green energy”, it is merely localized based on what the source is. There is room for all types of every, but shunning one down is just pathetic. I feel people are not educated enough on this topic, hence they just read what social media says and they become “experts”.

Thanks for the detailed post I can see no one cares unless their job gets affected. I think if Quebec and BC don't create such a fuss about pipelines this wouldn't be such a big issue.
 
Thanks for the detailed post I can see no one cares unless their job gets affected. I think if Quebec and BC don't create such a fuss about pipelines this wouldn't be such a big issue.

Pipeline is being built in Bc, but that’s the natural gas one, since their asset is involved in it. Trust me, it’s all politics, and nothing else. There is no science in disapproving northern gateway.

QC plays the environment card still but still doesn’t realize Canada isn’t #1 in terms of emission reductions. Yet their leaders are paid under the table by saudis to purchase their oil and reject such pipelines as it disturbs Saudi’s market share. Quebec just wants money and that’s all, be it from saudis or in equalization payments.

Oil & gas still accounts for 72% of Canada’s exports, 85% of it goes to US. So if the federal govt wants to finish off trillion dollar debt that we are at now, they need to invest in such infrastructure. All I see is arguments and fights between provinces, and nothing else. If this was US or any other nation (communist or not) it would’ve been approved and built 10 years ago.
 
I would say so. I guess it depends on what Iran does next as I said.

Say so? If Chinese and Russian soldiers invaded Britain because they were more powerful, you'd be in uproar but seem hesitant to call an illegal occupation out. Iran can jump up and down or do twirls, the Yanks and their lapdogs UK, Europe have no right to occupy anyones land. The western nations arent the worlds police but the opposite, their history and current policies,invasions such the worlds biggest criminals.
 
Pipeline is being built in Bc, but that’s the natural gas one, since their asset is involved in it. Trust me, it’s all politics, and nothing else. There is no science in disapproving northern gateway.

QC plays the environment card still but still doesn’t realize Canada isn’t #1 in terms of emission reductions. Yet their leaders are paid under the table by saudis to purchase their oil and reject such pipelines as it disturbs Saudi’s market share. Quebec just wants money and that’s all, be it from saudis or in equalization payments.

Oil & gas still accounts for 72% of Canada’s exports, 85% of it goes to US. So if the federal govt wants to finish off trillion dollar debt that we are at now, they need to invest in such infrastructure. All I see is arguments and fights between provinces, and nothing else. If this was US or any other nation (communist or not) it would’ve been approved and built 10 years ago.

I meant Canada is #1 in emission reduction. Was a typo [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION]
 
I meant Canada is #1 in emission reduction. Was a typo [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION]

Got it bro, as i said before this is where I feel Norway is smarter than Canada, guess being divided into provinces has its issues.

Canada has so much potential, what’s your opinion on Hydrogen economy , apparently Alberta had got excited about it in early 2000s but it didn’t come out and now it is.. esp coz Japanese automakers
 
Got it bro, as i said before this is where I feel Norway is smarter than Canada, guess being divided into provinces has its issues.

Canada has so much potential, what’s your opinion on Hydrogen economy , apparently Alberta had got excited about it in early 2000s but it didn’t come out and now it is.. esp coz Japanese automakers

Well there are quite a few ways to extract hydrogen. The best source in the world remains natural gas, which Qatar, Canada, Iran even Pakistan (mildly developed) has abundant of. The next is through your normal oil extraction. A permeable membrane in inserted into the well and it extracts hydrogen through hydo carbon when pumped out (vague explanation but there is a lot of mass transfer language would be used). The next is through electrolysis. This is absolutely weird but interesting at the same time. Water (yes water) is used to separate hydrogen from oxygen (requires crazy amount of energy). So if you want to extract hydrogen that will give you 10 MW in power, you need like 9 MW to extract it. It also uses clean water (essential source for humans) to produce energy. So this may not be economically viable as it required a lot of energy to produce just a bit more, and also uses water.

I say invest in stocks that is natural gas producer, rather than these new technologies. I admit, natural gas is the fuel of the future. Canada has been operating natural gas powered buses since like early 2000s. So it is the right technology.
 
Well there are quite a few ways to extract hydrogen. The best source in the world remains natural gas, which Qatar, Canada, Iran even Pakistan (mildly developed) has abundant of. The next is through your normal oil extraction. A permeable membrane in inserted into the well and it extracts hydrogen through hydo carbon when pumped out (vague explanation but there is a lot of mass transfer language would be used). The next is through electrolysis. This is absolutely weird but interesting at the same time. Water (yes water) is used to separate hydrogen from oxygen (requires crazy amount of energy). So if you want to extract hydrogen that will give you 10 MW in power, you need like 9 MW to extract it. It also uses clean water (essential source for humans) to produce energy. So this may not be economically viable as it required a lot of energy to produce just a bit more, and also uses water.

I say invest in stocks that is natural gas producer, rather than these new technologies. I admit, natural gas is the fuel of the future. Canada has been operating natural gas powered buses since like early 2000s. So it is the right technology.

Thanks for detailed reply!
 
Biden the champ of democracy has now confirmed he doesnt support Int law or democratic rights for others, only his chums on CNN.

Biden will not adhere to Int law, as he will continue calling Jerusalem as Israels capital, not moving his embassy out.

Since Bidens arrival the IDF have now stated they are training for an attack on Iran.

Sleepy Joe seems to be killer Joe.
 
UK jets destroy Daesh cells in Iraq

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1802091/middle-east

Biden admin likely to keep US troops in Afghanistan amid escalating violence, stalled talks

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bid...an-amid-escalating-violence/story?id=75547504

The champion of democracy, the supporter of BLM and minority rights changes policies to continue blood shedding and war in lands where the people DONT want him, his cronie allies and his invading troops.

Warmonger is truly back in action.
 
Say so? If Chinese and Russian soldiers invaded Britain because they were more powerful, you'd be in uproar but seem hesitant to call an illegal occupation out. Iran can jump up and down or do twirls, the Yanks and their lapdogs UK, Europe have no right to occupy anyones land. The western nations arent the worlds police but the opposite, their history and current policies,invasions such the worlds biggest criminals.

I'd be enlisting into HM Armed Forces, and hoping for help from NATO.
 
I'd be enlisting into HM Armed Forces, and hoping for help from NATO.

This is how almost all Iraqis and most Afghans feel. Please give them the same respect and right of sovereignty of their own land. Every invader is now a legitimate target for self defence. No invader is a hero.
 
This is how almost all Iraqis and most Afghans feel. Please give them the same respect and right of sovereignty of their own land. Every invader is now a legitimate target for self defence. No invader is a hero.

For your analogy to make sense, UK Gov would have had to have invited these hypothetical Russians or Chinese onto British soil to help deal with an insurgency.
 
For your analogy to make sense, UK Gov would have had to have invited these hypothetical Russians or Chinese onto British soil to help deal with an insurgency.

There was no invite from Iraq in 2003. Lets say it how it is, Western forces have occupied Iraq since 2003 and now use Iraq's request for help as a pretext to extend their occupation.
 
For your analogy to make sense, UK Gov would have had to have invited these hypothetical Russians or Chinese onto British soil to help deal with an insurgency.

Nobody invited the Yanks and their lapdogs into Afg or Iraq.

Even if you disagree, you cannot deny they dont want Brits and Yanks in their lands now. So why dont they leave or do you think the white man can do what he likes?

Btw I doubt you would take up arms at your age if the Chinese/Russians invade. Most Brits are fat and lazy now, they wouldnt do what the Afghans have been doing for thousands of years, sending invaders back or burying them in the ground.
 
Nobody invited the Yanks and their lapdogs into Afg or Iraq.

Even if you disagree, you cannot deny they dont want Brits and Yanks in their lands now. So why dont they leave or do you think the white man can do what he likes?

Btw I doubt you would take up arms at your age if the Chinese/Russians invade. Most Brits are fat and lazy now, they wouldnt do what the Afghans have been doing for thousands of years, sending invaders back or burying them in the ground.

I would agree that USA,UK dont have no right being in Iraq or Afghanistan. I have stated this multiple times. As the poster above said "no invader is a hero". I think that applies to the western imperialist and their shoddy record. Also applies to Ottomans or the invaders of Spain.
Coming to the 2nd part its delusional statement "sending invaders back or burying them in the ground" These western armies ( wrongly so )bombed Afghanistan to the Stone Age. What do you want them to do , put afghanistan in their pockets and take it back with them? Fat lazy brits can bomb them from 1000s of miles away. Its an absurd statement to make , with no link to ground realities.
 
Nobody invited the Yanks and their lapdogs into Afg or Iraq.

Even if you disagree, you cannot deny they dont want Brits and Yanks in their lands now. So why dont they leave or do you think the white man can do what he likes?

Btw I doubt you would take up arms at your age if the Chinese/Russians invade. Most Brits are fat and lazy now, they wouldnt do what the Afghans have been doing for thousands of years, sending invaders back or burying them in the ground.

I am “most Brits” am I? Know me, do you? Think I would watch my land get invaded and my womenfolk raped, do you?

But it won’t happen as UK has nuclear weapons and is part of NATO. I am much more likely to meet my fate in a car crash or from COVID.

Some two dozen nations (several not “white”) are deployed in Iraq, helping their army fight Daesh. Shall all those nations leave? Want Daesh to come back, do you? Muslims dying ok with you, as long as other Muslims do the killing? If not, how would you end the Iraqi Civil War?

Pakistan military is deployed in many nations in Africa on UN peacekeeping missions. I guess that is neo-imperialism to you?
 
I would agree that USA,UK dont have no right being in Iraq or Afghanistan. I have stated this multiple times. As the poster above said "no invader is a hero". I think that applies to the western imperialist and their shoddy record. Also applies to Ottomans or the invaders of Spain.
Coming to the 2nd part its delusional statement "sending invaders back or burying them in the ground" These western armies ( wrongly so )bombed Afghanistan to the Stone Age. What do you want them to do , put afghanistan in their pockets and take it back with them? Fat lazy brits can bomb them from 1000s of miles away. Its an absurd statement to make , with no link to ground realities.

ISAF at least tried to help the Afghans free themselves from the medieval theocracy Taliban that was in control after ten years of occupation by USSR (who were, let us not forget, invited in by the Afghan government).
 
To be fair, the West admit had they not gotton rid of the likes of Saddam/Gaddafi; Daesh et al wouldn't have spread internationally. These dictators had them under check.

Also I think it's unfair to claim Western forces are akin to peace keepers in Iraq etc. We cannot forget 2003 to 2017 - it was an illegal occupation from the get go.
 
To be fair, the West admit had they not gotton rid of the likes of Saddam/Gaddafi; Daesh et al wouldn't have spread internationally. These dictators had them under check.

Also I think it's unfair to claim Western forces are akin to peace keepers in Iraq etc. We cannot forget 2003 to 2017 - it was an illegal occupation from the get go.

Let us be precise on Libya - the no-fly zone mandated by the UN and supported by the Arab League was to stop Gaddafi slaughtering his own people by air strikes during the Arab Spring. Gaddafi was “gotton rid of” by Libyans.

How do the nations supporting the Iraqi Army (and feeding and clothing and treating injured Iraqis) pull out without Daesh coming back? Having kicked the anthill over in error, surely they have a responsibility to help fix it?
 
Let us be precise on Libya - the no-fly zone mandated by the UN and supported by the Arab League was to stop Gaddafi slaughtering his own people by air strikes during the Arab Spring. Gaddafi was “gotton rid of” by Libyans.

How do the nations supporting the Iraqi Army (and feeding and clothing and treating injured Iraqis) pull out without Daesh coming back? Having kicked the anthill over in error, surely they have a responsibility to help fix it?

Daesh didn't exist pre 2003.

Do you think young Iraqis, Syrians, or Libiyans want to grow up to become teachers, engineers, or doctors after seeing their families murdered by Western forces? No, they want to become martyers. The west has ensured this.

Plus if western forces really did want to help Iraq, there was no need to fabricate evidence in 2003. Then you have other nations such as Zimbabwe where its people were victims of a brutal dictator too but nothing to overturn Mugabe. This is why the excuses of instilling democracy and overturning a dictator and liberating people have worn thin.

Western forces never had a backout plan in the ME, it was never their intention to backout. Their goal is Iran. This is the end game.
 
Daesh didn't exist pre 2003.

Do you think young Iraqis, Syrians, or Libiyans want to grow up to become teachers, engineers, or doctors after seeing their families murdered by Western forces? No, they want to become martyers. The west has ensured this.

Plus if western forces really did want to help Iraq, there was no need to fabricate evidence in 2003. Then you have other nations such as Zimbabwe where its people were victims of a brutal dictator too but nothing to overturn Mugabe. This is why the excuses of instilling democracy and overturning a dictator and liberating people have worn thin.

Western forces never had a backout plan in the ME, it was never their intention to backout. Their goal is Iran. This is the end game.

Not just Iran, Saudi too. All the ME dictatorships were to be toppled and democracy installed, according to Ken Clarke after he spoke with the American neocons.

But the Iraq operation bogged down and the US leadership has changed three times since.

Given the terrible decision to invade, I think it is only right that the invaders stay to help fix the damage. Yes Daesh were not there in 2003 but they are now, and will come back in force if the multinational deployment leaves.
 
Not just Iran, Saudi too. All the ME dictatorships were to be toppled and democracy installed, according to Ken Clarke after he spoke with the American neocons.

But the Iraq operation bogged down and the US leadership has changed three times since.

Given the terrible decision to invade, I think it is only right that the invaders stay to help fix the damage. Yes Daesh were not there in 2003 but they are now, and will come back in force if the multinational deployment leaves.

I disagree. The whole problem is this incorrect perception. You really want things to improve and help bring development and prosperity to a country, you can do that without military presence. Military presence itself and the way US and western powers go about installing puppet governments in these countries in indicate they just want a modern day colonized region and not an independently thinking country.

You want to bring democracy to a country then let them do it. You can fund them but there is no use in stoking militant fires there.
 
I disagree. The whole problem is this incorrect perception. You really want things to improve and help bring development and prosperity to a country, you can do that without military presence. Military presence itself and the way US and western powers go about installing puppet governments in these countries in indicate they just want a modern day colonized region and not an independently thinking country.

You want to bring democracy to a country then let them do it. You can fund them but there is no use in stoking militant fires there.

Not if the Iraqi Civil War kicks off again you can’t. Democratic institutions, development and prosperity have to be safeguarded by fire and steel.
 
Biden the champ of democracy has now confirmed he doesnt support Int law or democratic rights for others, only his chums on CNN.

Biden will not adhere to Int law, as he will continue calling Jerusalem as Israels capital, not moving his embassy out.

Since Bidens arrival the IDF have now stated they are training for an attack on Iran.

Sleepy Joe seems to be killer Joe.

Bump!

Well killer Joe indeed. Started off by bombing Syria. Not withdrawing troops form Iraq (resolution from Iraqi parliament) and Afghanistan (afghan peace talks resolution).

Biden is a dictator hiding behind the curtain of democracy.
 
Bump!

Well killer Joe indeed. Started off by bombing Syria. Not withdrawing troops form Iraq (resolution from Iraqi parliament) and Afghanistan (afghan peace talks resolution).

Biden is a dictator hiding behind the curtain of democracy.

The chump of democracy has been in office less than two months and already commiting acts of state terrorism across the globe. Then people wonder why the US is hated so much across the world.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/26/joe-biden-iraq-mustafa-al-kadhimi-us-military-combat-mission

Joe Biden and the Iraqi prime minister, Mustafa al-Kadhimi, are expected to announce on Monday an agreement to end the US military combat mission in Iraq by the end of the year, according to a senior Biden administration official.

The plan to shift the US military mission, whose stated purpose is to help Iraq defeat the Islamic State, to a strictly advisory and training role will be spelled out in a broader communique to be issued by the two leaders following a White House meeting on Monday afternoon, said the official.

The official said Iraqi security forces were “battle-tested” and have proved themselves “capable” of protecting their country. Still, the Biden administration recognizes that Isis remains a considerable threat, the official said.

Isis was largely routed on the battlefield in 2017. But it can still carry out high-casualty attacks. Last week, the group claimed responsibility for a roadside bombing that killed at least 30 and wounded dozens in a suburban Baghdad market.

The US and Iraq agreed in April that the transition to a train-and-advise mission meant the US combat role would end, but did not settle on a timetable. The announcement comes less than three months before parliamentary elections.

Kadhimi faces no shortage of problems. Iranian-backed militias inside Iraq have stepped up attacks against US forces while a series of devastating hospital fires left dozens dead and coronavirus infections have soared.

For Kadhimi, the ability to offer the Iraqi public a date for the end of the US combat presence could be a feather in his cap ahead of the election. Biden officials say Kadhimi also deserves credit for improving Iraq’s standing.

Last month, King Abdullah II of Jordan and the Egyptian president, Abdel Fatah al-Sisi, visited Baghdad for joint meetings – the first time an Egyptian president has made an official visit since the 1990s, when ties were severed after Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait.

In March, Pope Francis made a historic visit to Iraq, praying among ruined churches in Mosul, a former Isis stronghold, and meeting with Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, an influential Shia cleric, in the holy city of Najaf.

Kadhimi has made clear he believes it is time for the US to wind down the combat mission.

“There is no need for any foreign combat forces on Iraqi soil,” he told the Associated Press.

The US troop presence has stood at about 2,500 since late last year when Donald Trump ordered a reduction from 3,000. The announcement to end the combat mission comes as the US is in the final stages of ending its war in Afghanistan, nearly 20 years after George W Bush launched that conflict in response to the September 11, 2001 attacks.

The US mission of training and advising Iraqi forces has its origins in Barack Obama’s decision in 2014 to send troops back to the country. The move was made in response to an Isis takeover of large portions of western and northern Iraq and a collapse of Iraqi security forces that appeared to threaten Baghdad. Obama had fully withdrawn US forces from Iraq in 2011, eight years after the US invasion.

The distinction between combat troops and those involved in training and advising can be blurry, given that the US troops are under threat of attack. But it is clear that US ground forces have not been on the offensive in Iraq in years, other than largely unpublicized special operations missions aimed at Isis.

A major complication is the periodic attacks on bases housing US and coalition troops by Iraqi militia groups aligned with Iran. The vulnerability of US troops was demonstrated in January 2020 when Iran launched a missile attack on al-Asad air base in western Iraq. No Americans were killed but dozens suffered traumatic brain injury.

That was shortly after a US drone strike killed the Iranian military commander Qassem Suleimani and a senior Iraqi militia commander, Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, at Baghdad airport.

Monday’s meeting was also expected to detail US efforts to assist the Iraqi government’s Covid-19 response, education system and energy sector.
 
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/polls-open-iraq-general-election-state-tv-2021-10-10/

Iraq on Sunday held a parliamentary election that drew one of the smallest turnouts on record, electoral officials indicated, a result that suggested dwindling trust in political leaders and the democratic system brought in by the 2003 U.S.-led invasion.

The established, Shi'ite Islamist-dominated ruling elite whose most powerful parties have armed wings is expected to sweep the vote, with the movement led by populist Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, who opposes all foreign interference and whose main rivals are Iran-allied Shi'ite groups, seen emerging as parliament's biggest faction.

Such a result would not dramatically alter the balance of power in Iraq or the wider Middle East, say Iraqi officials, foreign diplomats and analysts, but for Iraqis it could mean that a former insurgency leader and conservative Islamist could increase his sway over the government.

In Baghdad's Sadr City, a polling station set up in a girls’ school saw a slow but steady trickle of voters.

Election volunteer Hamid Majid, 24, said he had voted for his old school teacher, a candidate for the Sadrists.

“She educated many of us in the area so all the young people are voting for her. It’s the time for the Sadrist Movement. The people are with them,” Majid said.

Two electoral commission officials told Reuters that nationwide turnout of eligible voters was 19 percent by midday. Turnout was 44.5 percent in the last election in 2018. Polling stations closed at 6 p.m. (1500 GMT).

It appeared to be the lowest turnout in any election since 2003, according to election commission counts at polling stations that Reuters visited across the country.

The election is being held several months early under a new law designed to help independent candidates - a response to mass anti-government protests two years ago.

High school teacher Abdul Ameer Hassan al-Saadi said he boycotted the election.

”I lost my 17-year-old son Hussain after he got killed by a tear gas canister fired by police during Baghdad protests," said al-Saadi, whose house is close to a polling station in the mainly Shi'ite Baghdad district of Karrada.

"I will not vote for killers and corrupt politicians because the wound inside me and his mother we suffered after losing our boy is still bleeding."

The chief Iraq election observer of the European Union, Viola von Cramon, said the relatively low turnout means a lot.

"This is a clear, of course a political signal and one can only hope that it will be heard by the politicians and by the political elite of Iraq," she told reporters.

Nonetheless, some Iraqis were keen to vote in what is Iraq's fifth parliamentary vote since 2003 - and are hopeful of change. In the northern city of Kirkuk, Abu Abdullah said he arrived to vote an hour before polling stations opened.

"We expect the situation to improve significantly." he said.

At least 167 parties and more than 3,200 candidates are competing for parliament's 329 seats, according to the election commission. Iraqi elections are often followed by protracted talks over a president, a prime minister and a cabinet.

Prime Minister Mustafa al-Kadhimi is not running for election but the negotiations after the vote could yet see him get a second term. Kadhimi, who is viewed as Western-friendly, has no party to back him.

The Kurds have two main parties that rule the autonomous Kurdistan region, and Sunnis this time have two main blocs.

Kadhimi told reporters as he cast his ballot: “I call on Iraq people: there’s still time. Go out and vote for Iraq and vote for your future.”

Kadhimi's government called the vote early in response to protests in 2019 that toppled the previous administration.

Protesters' demands included the removal of a ruling elite most Iraqis view as corrupt. The demonstrations were brutally suppressed and some 600 people were killed over several months.

Iraq is safer than it has been for years and violent sectarianism is less present since Iraq vanquished the Sunni ultra-hardline Islamic State in 2017 with the help of an international military coalition and Iran. But corruption and mismanagement has meant many of Iraq's 40 million people lack jobs, healthcare, education and electricity.

"Why won't I vote? Because I have no faith in people. Those we elected, what have they done?," asked Mohammed Hassan, a resident of Basra. "Look at the garbage, the filth ... The previous government's projects, where are they?"

The United States, Gulf Arabs and Israel on one side and Iran on the other compete to influence Iraq, which provides Tehran with a gateway to back armed allies in Syria and Lebanon.

The 2003 invasion toppled Saddam Hussein, a Sunni Muslim, and catapulted to power the country’s majority Shi’ites and the Kurds, who were oppressed under Saddam. It unleashed years of sectarian violence, including the takeover of a third of the country by Islamic State between 2014 and 2017.
 
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/baghdad-clashes-hurt-30-iran-aligned-parties-dispute-iraq-vote-results-2021-11-05/

An investigation has begun into the deaths and injuries of demonstrators and security forces after clashes in Baghdad on Friday, the Iraqi News Agency (INA) reported, citing Iraq's Joint Operations Command.

Prime Minister Mustafa al-Kadhimi ordered the formation of a committee to investigate following clashes between Iraqi security forces and supporters of parties that are disputing the results of a general election in October.

A Joint Operations Command statement did not mention the number of deaths and injuries.

The statement added that "the negligent will be brought to legal accountability for their negligence and violation of the explicit orders of the commander in chief, which stressed that live bullets should not be fired under any circumstances," INA reported.

Al-Kadhimi also ordered compensation for victims of the clashes and decided to personally supervise the progress of the investigation, INA said.

It was the first significant violent clash between government forces and supporters of the political parties, most of which have armed wings and are aligned with Iran, since those groups lost dozens of parliament seats after the Oct. 10 vote.

Police fired tear gas and live ammunition into the air as scores of the protesters threw stones and tried to advance towards Baghdad's fortified Green Zone, which houses government buildings and foreign embassies, the security sources said.

Hospital sources said that more than 21 protesters were hurt mostly from smoke inhalation and nine policeman injured from being pelted by stones.

The parties that made the biggest gains in Iraq's October election include that of populist Shi'ite Muslim cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, who publicly opposes Iranian interference in Iraqi politics and has called for all remaining Western troops to withdraw from the country.

The Iran-backed groups disputing the election result are also Shi'ite but follow an Iranian model of theocratic governance which the nationalist Sadr and many ordinary Iraqi Shi'ites reject.

As per al-Kadhimi's orders, the investigation committee will include the security of the Popular Mobilisation Forces (PMF), a state-sanctioned umbrella organisation of mostly Shi'ite militias backed by Iran, INA said.

Iraq's majority Shi'ites have dominated government since the U.S.-led overthrow of Sunni dictator Saddam Hussein in 2003. Sunnis and Iraqi Kurds, the next biggest religious and ethnic groups in Iraq, lead significant alliances in parliament.

The election result was seen as a rejection by voters of foreign influence, especially that of Iran.

The parties disputing the result say there were irregularities in the voting process and vote counting, but have not provided compelling evidence for their claims.
 
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iraqs-newly-elected-parliament-starts-first-session-statement-2022-01-09/

Iraq’s parliament held its first session since October’s national election on Sunday but failed to elect a speaker, in what should have been the first step toward forming a new government.

The speaker selection process was disrupted as competing political blocs each claimed to hold a parliamentary majority. After heated debates and shouting among lawmakers, the temporary leader of the assembly, Mahmoud al-Mashahadani, decided to adjourn the session and it is not known when parliament will resume.

In a further complication, Mashahadani, who at 73 is the oldest member of parliament, was suddenly taken ill and transported to hospital by ambulance. A new temporary speaker will need to be appointed before parliament can resume, parliament's media office said. It did not give further details about Mashahadani's condition except to say that his blood pressure was being checked.

Parliament had been due to elect a speaker and two deputies during its first meeting.

Parliament also has 30 days from the first session to elect the country's new president, who will then ask the largest bloc in parliament to form a government.
 
What’s going on down there? Is the Baghdad government stable? Are the elections free and fair?
 
What’s going on down there? Is the Baghdad government stable? Are the elections free and fair?

Elections are neither free nor fair in the West.

Democracy is a hoax until one man equals one vote; and the last time this happened, UK government and opposition were hell bent to overturn a democratic result.

West should stop preaching about fair and free elections.
 
Hundreds of Iraqi protesters have breached Baghdad's parliament building in a protest against the selection of a nominee for prime minister by Iran-backed parties.

Only security forces were inside the building and they appeared to allow the protesters in with relative ease.

Many were followers of an influential cleric and some were seen walking on tables and waving Iraqi flags.

The breach comes amid the biggest protest since Iraqi elections were held in October.

The demonstrators were protesting against the recent nomination of Mohammed al-Sudani as the official nominee of the Co-ordination Framework bloc, a coalition led by Iran-backed Shiite parties and their allies.
 
Hundreds of Iraqi protesters have breached Baghdad's parliament building in a protest against the selection of a nominee for prime minister by Iran-backed parties.

Only security forces were inside the building and they appeared to allow the protesters in with relative ease.

Many were followers of an influential cleric and some were seen walking on tables and waving Iraqi flags.

The breach comes amid the biggest protest since Iraqi elections were held in October.

The demonstrators were protesting against the recent nomination of Mohammed al-Sudani as the official nominee of the Co-ordination Framework bloc, a coalition led by Iran-backed Shiite parties and their allies.

The US are still meddling , still determined to cause a sectarian war in Iraq. 2500 US occupying troops still remain in Iraq and wont leave even after demands by Iraqi parliament.
 
Biden cannot even stand straight, read off a teleprompter, let alone uphold democracy.

The lowest rates US President in history. He make Trump look like a noble prize winner.
 
Biden cannot even stand straight, read off a teleprompter, let alone uphold democracy.

The lowest rates US President in history. He make Trump look like a noble prize winner.

Does this clown remember what day of the week it is! Another war mongering criminal, bring back Trump.
 
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