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10 people shot at Philadelphia block party

(CNN)Ten people, including three children, were shot at a Philadelphia cookout and block party Saturday night.

According to Philadelphia police incident report, witnesses said "that two unknown black males had fired (at the crowd) with a shotgun at least once and then (drove) down the street in a gold or silver four door sedan and fired several more shots, possibly with a handgun."

"It looks like they just fired randomly into the street and hit whoever was in their way," said Philadelphia police Lt. John Walker. "It's a terrible situation."

Victims' injuries included gunshot wounds to the leg and face. The youngest victim, an 11-month-old, was shot in the neck, according to CNN affiliate KYW.

All victims were taken to local hospitals and listed in stable condition, according to Philadelphia police.

CNN's Sheena Jones contributed to this report.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/21/us/philadelphia-block-party-shooting/index.html

Is this a revenge shooting now? Not looking good.
 
Labels don't have any power at all, the person interpreting the label gives it power. To me a label may have no power at all but to you it may have immense power but that is due to how we perceive the label the label itself is inert.

Or how we are made to perceive particular label, most American are more brain washed than any other nation in the world, this shooting is another perfect example of it.
 
Another question that addresses this failure of America to deal with its historical legacy of racism is why are racists and white supremacists still openly celebrated in America ?

For example, the Southern Democrat Richard Russell. A man who fiercely opposed the Civil Rights Act and any action to end segregation, lynching and disenfranchisement of black people.

He has elementary schools named after him, a bronze statue of him on the lawn of the Georgia State Capitol and even a submarine named after him !

Imagine if here in the UK we started renaming libraries and schools after Nick Griffin. How do these things happen in America without it even batting an eyelid ? Why on earth would you want to celebrate such a man ?
 
The Governor of South Carolina announces the Confederate flag will be taken down from the State Capitol.

Good. Burn the rag whilst you're at it. A symbol of hate and racism that deserves to be consigned to the dustbin of history.
 
The Governor of South Carolina announces the Confederate flag will be taken down from the State Capitol.

Good. Burn the rag whilst you're at it. A symbol of hate and racism that deserves to be consigned to the dustbin of history.

for a lot of southerners its not a symbol of hate and racism.

its a symbol of autonomy and state rights

don't believe all what the biased history books written by Yankee victors and the media tells you abt Civil War. Slavery was not the dominant reason for the civil war
 
Or how we are made to perceive particular label, most American are more brain washed than any other nation in the world, this shooting is another perfect example of it.

Are we allowed to pick examples like this for other countries and see where US stands when compared to many other countries in brainwashing?

How about brainwashed to start killing people with different faith in many countries? Is is smaller or bigger scale than what's happen in this incident in US?
 
for a lot of southerners its not a symbol of hate and racism.

its a symbol of autonomy and state rights

don't believe all what the biased history books written by Yankee victors and the media tells you abt Civil War. Slavery was not the dominant reason for the civil war

If the Confederate flag is a part of "southern history" then should Germany be proud to wave the Nazi flag ? After all its also their history too. There are some things better off left in the past and that flag is one of them.

To deny slavery wasn't the main reason behind the civil war would be a denial of the historical facts. Sure there were economic differences, issues over tariffs and the divide between the industrial north and the agricultural south - BUT if slavery wasn't the main issue then why did a third of Confederate soldiers own slaves ?

And when we look at the Southern soldiers who owned slaves, the soldiers who lived with a family member who owned slaves, lived in households headed by non-family members who did; we see that nearly half of all Confederate soldiers in the early part of the war either lived with slaveholders or were slave owners themselves.

The fact that their paper notes frequently depicted scenes of slaves demonstrated the institution's central role and symbolic value to the Confederacy. States' rights was an issue - the right to own slaves ! I would say that both sides were equal in terms of individual racism, but in the South, it was institutionalized. Slavery was a part of the "southern way of life" that the Confederate Army sought to protect.
 
Anybody read the guys manifesto? Some ridiculous thoughts.
 
If the Confederate flag is a part of "southern history" then should Germany be proud to wave the Nazi flag ? After all its also their history too. There are some things better off left in the past and that flag is one of them.

Concur.

To deny slavery wasn't the main reason behind the civil war would be a denial of the historical facts. Sure there were economic differences, issues over tariffs and the divide between the industrial north and the agricultural south - BUT if slavery wasn't the main issue then why did a third of Confederate soldiers own slaves ?

Maybe a third of the Officers owned slaves, if they came from the Southern aristocracy. General Lee did, but Generals Jackson and Longstreet did not. Lee sold some of his slaves to the Quakers, who employed as free men on their farms. He released as many as he could that way without bankrupting his estate. On the other hand there were virulent racists such as Nathan Bedford Forrest made a fortune in slave trading and who founded the KKK after the War ended.

I'm sure the private soldiers and NCOs didn't own slaves. They were ordinary working people for the most part.

Some fought because they felt that the Federal govt was interfering in the affairs of the Southern States over slavery and taxation issues. It's interesting that Delaware and Kentucky were slave states, yet fought on the side of the Union.

And a lot of blokes saw their State invaded by the Federals and took up arms to resist it. Slavery was not an issue for them. They were fighting for their home soil.

It is, however, true that the War would not have started unless the Northern Abolitionist movement had not agitated for it, and Lincoln had not been elected.

So..... it's a bit more complicated than it looks on the surface.
 
Dylann Roof guilty of South Carolina killings

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dylann Roof guilty of S Carolina killings <a href="https://t.co/b3AzXPS3Ns">https://t.co/b3AzXPS3Ns</a></p>— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/809496846154481664">December 15, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Charleston church shooter: ‘I would like to make it crystal clear, I do not regret what I did’

CHARLESTON, S.C. — Six weeks after he shot and killed nine people at a Charleston church, Dylann Roof lamented in a jailhouse journal that he could no longer go to the movies or eat good food. But he still felt the massacre was “worth it” because of what he perceived as the wrongs perpetrated by the black community.

“I would like to make it crystal clear, I do not regret what I did,” Roof wrote. “I am not sorry. I have not shed a tear for the innocent people I killed.”

The journal was the centerpiece of prosecutors’ opening bid to convince jurors that Roof, 22, deserves the death penalty for slaying nine black parishioners of the city’s historic Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in 2015. Roof was convicted last month of federal hate crimes for the shooting, and Wednesday marked the first day in the penalty phase of his trial.

Prosecutors had held back dramatic evidence for the occasion, adding more emotion to an already harrowing trial. A woman whose husband was slain told jurors that she had listened from another room, urging her young daughter to be quiet, while Roof shot and killed her husband. Friends and family members of the slain testified of the bright futures cut short. Some shared funny stories that drew laughter in the courtroom. Others cried.

“I literally did not know what to do,” the Rev. Anthony Thompson said of the moment he learned that his wife, Myra, had been killed. “If she’s gone, then what am I here for?”

Even as they present such horror, prosecutors have a difficult task. Since the federal death penalty statute was reinstated in 1988 and expanded in 1994, the government has taken a little more than 200 such cases to trial, and juries have handed down punishments of life in prison about twice as often as they have opted for the death penalty, according to the Federal Death Penalty Resource Counsel Project. Roof’s case presents a complication because the ninth-grade dropout has chosen to represent himself — and to offer almost no real defense.

Roof used a brief opening statement only to tell jurors that he had fired his lawyers because he did not want them to present evidence about his mental health. He complained that the lawyers, outside of the view of the jury, “forced me to go through two competency hearings,” which he said would eventually become part of the public record.

“So, in that respect, my self-representation accomplishes nothing, so you can say, what’s the point?” Roof said. “And the point is that I’m not going to lie to you, either by myself or through anyone else.”

“There’s nothing wrong with me psychologically,” he added later.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Nathan Williams said that Roof’s crimes were awful enough to deserve the ultimate penalty. Roof killed not one person, but nine, and “he killed them because of the color of their skin,” Williams said. He researched and scouted the church full of innocent people, whom he targeted for their vulnerability and “to magnify and incite violence in others,” Williams said.

And even six weeks after the massacre was over, Williams said, Roof wrote about his racial hatred and desire to spark mayhem in a journal that investigators took from his jail cell. He said he sometimes lamented the loss of some of the things he enjoyed doing while free, but remarked, “Then I remember how I felt when I did these things, when I committed these murders, and how I knew I had to do something. And then I realized it was worth it.”

Jurors on Wednesday heard firsthand from a survivor of the attack: Jennifer Pinckney, who listened from another room in the church while Roof gunned down her husband, the Rev. Clementa C. Pinckney, who also was a state senator, and the others.

Pinckney said she urged her daughter to be quiet, so that they, too, would not be killed, and when she went to retrieve her phone, she told the young girl: “Regardless of what happens to Mommy, you stay under this desk.” Earlier, she said, she had heard Roof say, “I’m not crazy, I had to do this,” and what sounded like him attempting to open the locked door.

“I was just like, ‘This is it, this is it,’ ” Pinckney said.

As Pinckney testified, Roof sat motionless — looking downward or straight ahead. Given an opportunity to question her himself, Roof said, “No questions.” He also declined to question other witnesses, although he took notes and leafed through papers during some testimony.

Roof did not contest his guilt in the case. Jurors saw a video of him matter-of-factly confessing to the crime in an interview with FBI agents and even chuckling at times.

“I am guilty,” he said. “We all know I’m guilty.”

In the same interview, though, Roof said that he regretted the crime “a little bit” and that the fact that nine people were killed “makes me feel bad.” Jurors took less than two hours to find him guilty of all 33 counts they were asked to consider.

Even some involved in the investigation and prosecution — including William Nettles, the former U.S. attorney in South Carolina, and Vanita Gupta, the head of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division — advised against Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch’s decision to seek Roof’s execution. The victims’ church, popularly known as Mother Emanuel, opposes the death penalty on religious grounds, and victims’ family members and those representing them have expressed complicated views on the subject.

Asked in his interview with FBI agents what he thought should happen to him, Roof responded, “I don’t know how to answer that.” But asked what should happen to a black man who killed nine white people in a church, Roof said: “He should probably die, too, I guess.”

In court Wednesday, victims’ family members focused not on the death penalty, but on fond memories of their loved ones. Some of the most poignant testimony came from Thompson, who said that typically when his wife left their home, he walked her to the door, kissed her and told her he loved her. But on the day she died, he missed his chance.

“It just didn’t happen that day,” Thompson said, wiping tears from his eyes.

Andrew J. Savage III, who represents several survivors of the attack and family members of those slain, said many — though not all — of his clients initially opposed the death penalty. They included Felicia Sanders, who was there during the shooting and whose son, Tywanza Sanders, 26, was killed.

“She wanted him to live so he could think about what he did and recall her son’s statement during the shooting, which was, ‘We mean you no harm,’ ” Savage said.

But Savage said Sanders’s and others’ views have evolved, especially since they saw Roof’s videotaped confession. Sanders, he said, is not a supporter of the death penalty but feels “that government has its responsibilities that she does not control.”

Federal death sentences are a rarity, and federal executions even more so. The Justice Department has executed only three inmates in the modern death penalty era, and the last such execution was in 2003.

In some ways, Savage said, there is no good outcome for the victims’ loved ones. If Roof is sentenced to death, Savage said, the families will have to endure years of appeals. If he isn’t, they will still have to wrestle with an upcoming state trial, where a jury could impose a death sentence.

“The thing that they probably won’t get, and the thing that I want the most for them, is some form of closure,” Savage said. “The closure is not coming.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...b0061e-d1da-11e6-a783-cd3fa950f2fd_story.html
 
Maybe he is trying to sound as bad as possible so he could get a death sentence and this all be over instead of decades of suffering in case of life sentence.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Dylann Roof sentenced to death for killing 9 black church members; 1st to get death penalty for federal hate crimes.</p>— The Associated Press (@AP) <a href="https://twitter.com/AP/status/818939789328207873">January 10, 2017</a></blockquote>
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By doing this they'll just give him an easy way out and make him a martyr.

Put him in isolation for the rest of his natural life.
 
By doing this they'll just give him an easy way out and make him a martyr.

Put him in isolation for the rest of his natural life.

Agree. They're giving him the easy way out, give him prison for life and make him suffer.

10 to 20 years on deathrow before being executed. During those years he will be beat up and raped by other prisoners constantly who will predominantly be black. He is in for a ride. Police officers won't do much, they only look out for not so violent criminals being attacked and raped. As matter of fact there has been many reports of rapists and child molesters being told by prison guards to say they that they are in for "bank fraud"(just an example)in order to avoid being attacked and raped by other prisoners. What they don't know is that "bank fraud" is the code word for pedophilia.
 
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