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"Chief selector & Coach are not that important because it is the captain who has to lead" : Inzamam

Inzamam speaking on his YouTube regarding Babar Azam v Mohammad Wasim controversy:

“The important thing is that team is selected with consultation because the most important person in all this is the captain"

"The Chief selector and Coach are not that important because it is the captain who has to lead and make the team fight inside"

“Babar Azam is not impressed with the team selection and Mohammad Wasim is saying it's not your concern. How can Mohammad Wasim say such a thing to Babar Azam?"

"This is surprising and I am surprised that there no statements from the board saying that the captain will have the full authority and will have the main role in the selection?”

“I am sometimes unable to understand that what this board is actually doing. Every decision of the board is incorrect"

"IPL had 10 Covid-19 cases but they completed the tournament but we postponed the PSL which is surprising

"They seem to be unaware of what will happen to Pakistan’s image due to the closure of PSL"

"Babar Azam is unhappy whilst Mohammad Wasim is saying something else but the board is silent"

“I feel that Mohammad Wasim has been made the chief selector on behest of some and those powers are controlling him"

"The board needs to open their eyes and starting thinking about what they want to do with cricket"

"Five to six changes have been made to the side after we won the last T20"

"Same number of changes have been made to the ODI squad and we have players included in it who have played just two to three matches"

"The standard of Pakistan cricket cannot be such that a player who bowled well in two matches of PSL is selected"

"It feels like everything is being done by the board from behind the scenes"

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Inzi with his usual remarks. Surprising when he was an incompetent selector he didnt follow the above methods :)
 
"IPL had 10 Covid-19 cases but they completed the tournament but we postponed the PSL which is surprising"
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Stopped reading after this
 
Don't agree with everything Inzi is saying here but on the point of consultation in selection I absolutely do.

Yes, we have a selection panel and a chief selector and the final choice should be theirs but there needs to be communication and consultation with the team management - what kind of strategy do the coach and captain want? What kind of player would fit into this strategy? Who gels well with the other players? Who trains hard and has a good attitude? All of these things are important.

It seems that Babar didn't find out the squad until it was announced on the news and that is an absolute farce for a so called professional organisation.
 
If Chief Selector is not that important than why were you crying and begging for reward money after CT17 victory?
 
Agree with Inzamam as far as his comments on the selection process are concerned.

It is a complete farce. M Wasim is a show-off who is only interested in cheap praise from hyper fans. He is not capable of serving as the selector because he wants to take the spotlight from the team management.

The Pakistan cricket team is Babar and Misbah’s team and M Wasim needs to give them the players they want. He has no business trying to steal credit and attempting to make himself look good.

Unfortunately, this is what happens when two utterly clueless and incompetent administrators like Wasim Khan and Mani are running PCB. Both of them have zero vision, zero leadership skills and know nothing about cricket.

The fact that neither of them have been sacked in the aftermath of the PSL humiliation shows that all this talk of greater accountability in PCB is just a load of hogwash.
 
In addition to the consultation / communication, perhaps the captain should get at least 1-2 players he prefers in the team
 
Inzi I would have gathered did a better job on the consultation part with him having been a high profile former captain
 
Agree with Inzamam as far as his comments on the selection process are concerned.

It is a complete farce. M Wasim is a show-off who is only interested in cheap praise from hyper fans. He is not capable of serving as the selector because he wants to take the spotlight from the team management.

The Pakistan cricket team is Babar and Misbah’s team and M Wasim needs to give them the players they want. He has no business trying to steal credit and attempting to make himself look good.

Unfortunately, this is what happens when two utterly clueless and incompetent administrators like Wasim Khan and Mani are running PCB. Both of them have zero vision, zero leadership skills and know nothing about cricket.

The fact that neither of them have been sacked in the aftermath of the PSL humiliation shows that all this talk of greater accountability in PCB is just a load of hogwash.

I totally disagree with this. For years the Aussies used to give the team to the captain and he made do. Babar needs to make do. End of. Its not like he has been given some complete duds. The team by and large selects itself. As a new young captain he needs to get on with the job. His core is still the same and he is totally familiar with the players selected. Misbah is upset with Sharjeel and I agree with him on that but I see why he was selected. You yourself say we are devoid of massive talent so now the task is to build a team and create a winning culture no matter what the levels of talent given to you.

In life when you manage many times you dont get to choose your team. You make do and build a team from what you are given.

I'm tired of this nonsense. Babar is not Imran Khan or Inzi who had some gravitas and pull. He is a new captain and needs to knuckle down. When he shows what an inspirational leader he is he can start using his influence. Prior to this he needs to be humble and get his team winning.
 
I totally disagree with this. For years the Aussies used to give the team to the captain and he made do. Babar needs to make do. End of. Its not like he has been given some complete duds. The team by and large selects itself. As a new young captain he needs to get on with the job. His core is still the same and he is totally familiar with the players selected. Misbah is upset with Sharjeel and I agree with him on that but I see why he was selected. You yourself say we are devoid of massive talent so now the task is to build a team and create a winning culture no matter what the levels of talent given to you.

In life when you manage many times you dont get to choose your team. You make do and build a team from what you are given.

I'm tired of this nonsense. Babar is not Imran Khan or Inzi who had some gravitas and pull. He is a new captain and needs to knuckle down. When he shows what an inspirational leader he is he can start using his influence. Prior to this he needs to be humble and get his team winning.

It is common sense. If the captain and coach do not want a set of players you cannot hold them accountable for poor performances.

Captain influences selection in every country. This attitude that a captain has nothing to do with selection is completely wrong.

It doesn’t matter if he is not Imran or Inzamam - he is the captain of the Pakistan cricket team and you cannot hold him accountable if you give him the players he does not want.

A captain is part of the team-building process and you cannot sideline him from the selection process.

The issue here is that M Wasim is not interested in team-building; he is interested in making himself look good by making out of the box selections, hoping that some of them would fluke a performance so that everyone praises him for his great vision and eye for talent.

Pakistan is the only cricket team in the world where the selector has explicitly informed the captain that he has nothing to do with the squad selection. If people find nothing wrong with this attitude I am lost for words.
 
There are simply too many people involved in the process of selecting a team. Cricket should start following the soccer method, where the coach/manager is the one responsible for selecting the team. This also makes it easier to know who should face the axe if things go south.

Inzamam, when he was the CS, ensured that the captain and coach got the players they were hoping for. It would have been good for Pakistan cricket had he continued in that role.
 
There are simply too many people involved in the process of selecting a team. Cricket should start following the soccer method, where the coach/manager is the one responsible for selecting the team. This also makes it easier to know who should face the axe if things go south.

Inzamam, when he was the CS, ensured that the captain and coach got the players they were hoping for. It would have been good for Pakistan cricket had he continued in that role.

I agree in theory with your idea. There will always be conflict, debate and tension shackling the progress of a side when 3 different people (CS, coach and captain) are all feeling entitled to make these selection decisions.

That English white-ball side might have had input from Ed Smith and Trevor Bayliss, but it's Eoin Morgan's team. There's an identity, a direction, a decisiveness. 3 opinions/agendas all jostling for power does no good to anyone.

In practise, I'd be a little more hesitant giving one person such power and control. I don't really trust anyone in Pakistan to pull it off the way Morgan has. Perhaps with the 3-person control, agendas can be diluted, which might be beneficial.
 
Agree with Inzamam as far as his comments on the selection process are concerned.

It is a complete farce. M Wasim is a show-off who is only interested in cheap praise from hyper fans. He is not capable of serving as the selector because he wants to take the spotlight from the team management.

The Pakistan cricket team is Babar and Misbah’s team and M Wasim needs to give them the players they want. He has no business trying to steal credit and attempting to make himself look good.

Unfortunately, this is what happens when two utterly clueless and incompetent administrators like Wasim Khan and Mani are running PCB. Both of them have zero vision, zero leadership skills and know nothing about cricket.

The fact that neither of them have been sacked in the aftermath of the PSL humiliation shows that all this talk of greater accountability in PCB is just a load of hogwash.

Agreed.

Wasim needs to understand that his eye for talent is fine, but when a captain wants a player on the team, he should do as he is told.

Wasim has a lot of social media support for being organized and putting slideshows, but his behavior is almost the same as the selectors before him.

It's called manipulation, using statistics when they benefit you. He could easily bring up the batting average of players to drop, but never the batting average of players to select. There are some bang on average players on the team, and surprisingly no statistics are used against them. It's all a lie. Shahnawaz Dhani makes the team for a QEA Trophy averaging 34, whereas Irfanullah Shah is ignored with an average of 20? I mean what's the logic, just baffling.
 
There are simply too many people involved in the process of selecting a team. Cricket should start following the soccer method, where the coach/manager is the one responsible for selecting the team. This also makes it easier to know who should face the axe if things go south.

Inzamam, when he was the CS, ensured that the captain and coach got the players they were hoping for. It would have been good for Pakistan cricket had he continued in that role.

Is this the same Inzamam that gave Usman Salhuddin and Saad Ali 1 test match before disposing of them? You guys are too critical of a guy who's already showing results, it's not exactly a smart idea to slate a guy before the start of a series. Give the guys chances to perform and instill them with confidence as oppose to negativity.

Inzi contradicted himself all the time.
 
Agreed.

Wasim needs to understand that his eye for talent is fine, but when a captain wants a player on the team, he should do as he is told.

Wasim has a lot of social media support for being organized and putting slideshows, but his behavior is almost the same as the selectors before him.

It's called manipulation, using statistics when they benefit you. He could easily bring up the batting average of players to drop, but never the batting average of players to select. There are some bang on average players on the team, and surprisingly no statistics are used against them. It's all a lie. Shahnawaz Dhani makes the team for a QEA Trophy averaging 34, whereas Irfanullah Shah is ignored with an average of 20? I mean what's the logic, just baffling.

I agree to an extent about including players that a captain wants but it's only 1 or 2 guys. I mean Imad Wasim yes i agree should be in the t20 team as well as Haris Sohail in odis who both have performed but some inclusions/suggestions from Babar are clueless like Ifti, Talat and Khushdil all of which deserved the boot. However, again if we look at both the t20 and odi squad there are some very good players there and you can't say there is a lack of talent.

In terms of the test squad fair enough if Dhani was added but to be honest my only dispute about the test squad was the inclusion of Abid Ali who should really have been dropped.

I mean Wasim is there to produce the results and it's up to the captain to utilise the players given to him as well, there's still lots of talent in all 3 squads in my view and only a small percentage can be argued to say that's not right.
 
I agree to an extent about including players that a captain wants but it's only 1 or 2 guys. I mean Imad Wasim yes i agree should be in the t20 team as well as Haris Sohail in odis who both have performed but some inclusions/suggestions from Babar are clueless like Ifti, Talat and Khushdil all of which deserved the boot. However, again if we look at both the t20 and odi squad there are some very good players there and you can't say there is a lack of talent.

In terms of the test squad fair enough if Dhani was added but to be honest my only dispute about the test squad was the inclusion of Abid Ali who should really have been dropped.

I mean Wasim is there to produce the results and it's up to the captain to utilise the players given to him as well, there's still lots of talent in all 3 squads in my view and only a small percentage can be argued to say that's not right.

Haris and Imad should not have been dropped, they're a very important part of the Pakistan setup. Haris Sohail provided the much needed stability at 4, and he had runs to his name as well. A very good average at that position earned him a spot, but it seems like Wasim thinks differently.

Secondly, they dropped Imad from all formats which is quite confusing. Firstly, he's averaging 40+ with a SR of 110-ish, and he's an important batsman in the middle order. Yes, his average is bloated with not-outs, but he's very reliable at rotating strike and hitting the odd boundary too.

My issue isn't that they were dropped, my issue is that you removed two experienced batsmen from the middle order and will replace them with two debutants. If the goal was to replace them, then Danish Aziz should have slotted in for Imad and then gradually we should have found a replacement for Haris. This sudden transition could hurt our team balance in ODIs, especially before a few important series against ENG and SAF.

In the test squad, I'm not saying that Dhani didn't earn a spot, he clearly has talent, quality, and good physical signs that he can be suited for the longer format. But there were other options, players who bowled exceptionally well but were ignored. Irfanullah Shah was ignored, despite keeping a bowling average of 20 after 20 odd games. Credit to Dhani, he earned his callup, but some other options were worth considering as well.

Overall Wasim selected a good squad, apart for a few mistakes (the ones I stated above, and also the inclusion of Asif Ali, Abid Ali, etc.). Sad to see no Usman Salahuddin, the guy worked his back off in domestic but got no callup.

Let's hope that this pool of players gets a chance. At least Danish Aziz and Saud Shakeel should get chances in my opinion, neither has featured yet and Danish could prove to be useful in the middle order.
 
Haris and Imad should not have been dropped, they're a very important part of the Pakistan setup. Haris Sohail provided the much needed stability at 4, and he had runs to his name as well. A very good average at that position earned him a spot, but it seems like Wasim thinks differently.

Secondly, they dropped Imad from all formats which is quite confusing. Firstly, he's averaging 40+ with a SR of 110-ish, and he's an important batsman in the middle order. Yes, his average is bloated with not-outs, but he's very reliable at rotating strike and hitting the odd boundary too.

My issue isn't that they were dropped, my issue is that you removed two experienced batsmen from the middle order and will replace them with two debutants. If the goal was to replace them, then Danish Aziz should have slotted in for Imad and then gradually we should have found a replacement for Haris. This sudden transition could hurt our team balance in ODIs, especially before a few important series against ENG and SAF.

In the test squad, I'm not saying that Dhani didn't earn a spot, he clearly has talent, quality, and good physical signs that he can be suited for the longer format. But there were other options, players who bowled exceptionally well but were ignored. Irfanullah Shah was ignored, despite keeping a bowling average of 20 after 20 odd games. Credit to Dhani, he earned his callup, but some other options were worth considering as well.

Overall Wasim selected a good squad, apart for a few mistakes (the ones I stated above, and also the inclusion of Asif Ali, Abid Ali, etc.). Sad to see no Usman Salahuddin, the guy worked his back off in domestic but got no callup.

Let's hope that this pool of players gets a chance. At least Danish Aziz and Saud Shakeel should get chances in my opinion, neither has featured yet and Danish could prove to be useful in the middle order.

I mean totally right bhai about this, however after listening to M. Wasim on Waheed Khan's show today it was refreshing to hear and it just goes to show he's competent in his approach.

He talked about Imad Wasim and said that having a low ER is good but you need someone to be able to pick wickets as a low ER doesn't always win matches, something i can agree with an extent to but surely if you bowl economically you build pressure and it brings about a wicket.

All i'll say is this that the day the media aren't happy about selection that's a good day lol.
 
I'm not happy with Wasim performance as selectors so far but he is still far better than the lousiest selector in recent times , Inzimam.

People like Inzimam, Akhtar, Razzaq, Akmal, just want to stay in news with their non-sense comments .
 
I'm not happy with Wasim performance as selectors so far but he is still far better than the lousiest selector in recent times , Inzimam.

People like Inzimam, Akhtar, Razzaq, Akmal, just want to stay in news with their non-sense comments .

I'd honestly give a listen to the Waheed Khan interview he had today, sounded logical and to be honest at least he puts in effort with his presentations and selection unlike the selectors before.

I mean +90% of his selections are based on merit and only a small minority you can question.
 
A captain and coach should have a say in selection. The reason is that you will judge a captain and coach on the results of the players in the 11. If we lose the SA series,Babar and Misbah can say they didn't have much say in selections.

Most captains get a say in selection, even getting some players they want selected no matter if the selector disagrees. I hope Babar gets a say in selections going forward. It's not gair on him if he doesn't get certain players he wants.
 
A captain and coach should have a say in selection. The reason is that you will judge a captain and coach on the results of the players in the 11. If we lose the SA series,Babar and Misbah can say they didn't have much say in selections.

Most captains get a say in selection, even getting some players they want selected no matter if the selector disagrees. I hope Babar gets a say in selections going forward. It's not gair on him if he doesn't get certain players he wants.

He wants Khushdil part of the squad,misbah wants Iftikhar in the squad.
 
The problem is if captains are given veto power on squad selection matters and can object against the selection of any player , then what’s the point of even having a full time chief selector and selection panel? Just let the captain pick and chose his own buddies and favourites.

The way I see it the captains job is to lead on the field , he should own the team strategy for a match and chose the playing XI along with input from coach.

However if he’s going to also decide who is good enough or isn’t good enough for the squad , then we’ll let’s just get rid of the selection panel as clearly captain knows best.
 
Yes Inzi, which is why you forcefully rested Sarfraz Ahmed from the 2019 series against Australia in UAE, and made Malik captain?

Not to mention, stuffing Imam-ul-haq down our throats as a Test opener.
 
I agree in theory with your idea. There will always be conflict, debate and tension shackling the progress of a side when 3 different people (CS, coach and captain) are all feeling entitled to make these selection decisions.

That English white-ball side might have had input from Ed Smith and Trevor Bayliss, but it's Eoin Morgan's team. There's an identity, a direction, a decisiveness. 3 opinions/agendas all jostling for power does no good to anyone.

In practise, I'd be a little more hesitant giving one person such power and control. I don't really trust anyone in Pakistan to pull it off the way Morgan has. Perhaps with the 3-person control, agendas can be diluted, which might be beneficial.

There is nothing wrong with having an agenda, as long as it leads to positive results. In Imran Khan's heyday, Pakistan cricket was a one-man show with Imran having the final say on who plays and who doesn't.

It does lead to one man having a lot of power but like I said, it's quite easy to replace that man if he's not delivering. That said, instead of a player, I would prefer the coach/manager having the most power over selection matters.
 
Looks like we finally found a good selector and all these leeches are out to sucking his blood. No wonder we don't prosper in cricket.
Also, Wasim will not last long if he goes against tradition. Senior players will be always there regardless the performance and they get massive support from out of touch formers and bias media. Win win situation for Misbah and his dummy. Loose this series and Wasim is out. Then PCB will either make Misbah coach cum selector or bring back oldies and yesman like Inti/Qasim/Salu....
 
I mean totally right bhai about this, however after listening to M. Wasim on Waheed Khan's show today it was refreshing to hear and it just goes to show he's competent in his approach.

He talked about Imad Wasim and said that having a low ER is good but you need someone to be able to pick wickets as a low ER doesn't always win matches, something i can agree with an extent to but surely if you bowl economically you build pressure and it brings about a wicket.

All i'll say is this that the day the media aren't happy about selection that's a good day lol.

True. There must have been reasons surely, but then again, are making this many changes ahead of the World Cup really in our best interest? That question will get answered in the near future through our performances.
 
True. There must have been reasons surely, but then again, are making this many changes ahead of the World Cup really in our best interest? That question will get answered in the near future through our performances.

At the moment it's a case of pushing buttons and seeing what's the best combo and so experimenting right now is not a bad idea. Only thing i will say is that i wouldn't include Malik just based off of his low SR which is 116 in World Cups.
 
just thinking what would be the newly blooded players thinking about this. BA didnt want them in the team and it will be really difficult for them to go to their captain and ask for help. Added pressure on them now to perform. As well as on Babar to now to play neutral and control his instincts.
 
At the moment it's a case of pushing buttons and seeing what's the best combo and so experimenting right now is not a bad idea. Only thing i will say is that i wouldn't include Malik just based off of his low SR which is 116 in World Cups.

True.
 
just thinking what would be the newly blooded players thinking about this. BA didnt want them in the team and it will be really difficult for them to go to their captain and ask for help. Added pressure on them now to perform. As well as on Babar to now to play neutral and control his instincts.

I didn't think Babar is any long term Graeme Smith / Ricky Ponting or even an Inzamam type captain, but he seems to be mis-stepping and burning out very early in his tenure. Concerning.
 
https://cricketpakistan.com.pk/en/news/detail/senior-players-should-be-considered-if-needed-inzamamul-haq

Pakistan’s legendary former cricketer Inzamamul Haq, in a Youtube video on Sunday, stated that senior players should be considered to play for the national side if they are needed by the team.

The 51-year-old believed that the recent selection of the team was not right.

“Our selection is not right. We need to do better in that regard. I don’t think that Pakistan does not have players who can come in and play well in the middle order. I don’t think they should be ignored. They should definitely be considered. Even if they are senior players, they should be considered if the team needs them,” Inzamam said.

The former captain claimed that a lot of improvements were needed for the future.

“When you are selecting the team you have to realise that you aren’t selecting an under-19 team nor is this a team for 30-year-olds. Whoever is good for Pakistan should be considered. Congratulations to Pakistan for the victory but it has raised many questions. We need a lot of improvements,” he said.
 
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