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Did anyone hear about this or is it a fake ?
 
South Asian mob violence is one of the scariest sights in the world, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy
 
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Did anyone hear about this or is it a fake ?

Let the mental gymnastics begin!!

We should wager on the over-under for the categories of mental gymnastics.
 
Remember our PM has boasted how he suffers from amnesia. There is no point burning down your own house over it. Let Allah deal with such things.
 
Incidents like this might just be the beginning. When China is in full control once they have completed major infrastructure projects etc in Pakistan and if this type of incidents happen leading to Chinese workers getting hurt, China will force a cleanse of Pakistan the way the feel fit...

Next 10 years will be telling, I always felt, Pakistan selling its soul to China will lead to the end of Islamization in Pakistan..
 
South Asian mob violence is one of the scariest sights in the world, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy

It's disgusting. In a civilised society if there was a problem you would give the company a chance to explain the supposedly offensive material and also the chance to withdraw it. It was probably a gaffe with no malicious intent.
 
It's disgusting. In a civilised society if there was a problem you would give the company a chance to explain the supposedly offensive material and also the chance to withdraw it. It was probably a gaffe with no malicious intent.

Not really.

Mob violence will exist when there is theocracy involved in politics.

Early european societies faced same problems till the time they had theocracy ruling the cities. European countries were able to eridicate thoecracy from state govt.

Pakistan and india are still young countries that have theocracy dictate them especially in Pakistan. It would take years before religion is removed from govt level.

I for one hope china ends the islaminization that is happening and has happened in our country
 
Not really.

Mob violence will exist when there is theocracy involved in politics.

Early european societies faced same problems till the time they had theocracy ruling the cities. European countries were able to eridicate thoecracy from state govt.

Pakistan and india are still young countries that have theocracy dictate them especially in Pakistan. It would take years before religion is removed from govt level.

I for one hope china ends the islaminization that is happening and has happened in our country

Not really sure how that contradicts anything I wrote, but for the most part I agree. Although theocracy doesn't seem to play a role in mob violence in gulf states so not sure it's the reason for mob violence in India or Pakistan. I think the qaum is just mostly jahil.
 
Not really.

Mob violence will exist when there is theocracy involved in politics.

Early european societies faced same problems till the time they had theocracy ruling the cities. European countries were able to eridicate thoecracy from state govt.

Pakistan and india are still young countries that have theocracy dictate them especially in Pakistan. It would take years before religion is removed from govt level.

I for one hope china ends the islaminization that is happening and has happened in our country

Your point isn't coherent.

Whether theocracy, democracy, autocracy, the strength of mob actions is directly comparable to the strength of law enforcement.

If the law isn't enforced in society, then naturally these things will arise.

In many countries, mob violence is dished out against rapists, pedos and other criminals. They aren't theocracies.
 
Did anyone hear about this or is it a fake ?

The company and its management should be tried under Pakistan's draconian blasphemy laws, if this is true, and punished if found guilty. Remains to be seen if they will do it.
 
The company and its management should be tried under Pakistan's draconian blasphemy laws, if this is true, and punished if found guilty. Remains to be seen if they will do it.

If the China man was trialed and god forbid convicted for blasphemy, that would be the end of Pakistan.

China will come down like a ton of bricks and it will bring Pakistan to its knees..

The blasphemy law wont be around for along, once China gets in control of Pakistan, it will be the end, maybe in a good way ? so far Pakistan burying its head in religion has seen them a broke, going no where country..
 
Not really.

Mob violence will exist when there is theocracy involved in politics.

Early european societies faced same problems till the time they had theocracy ruling the cities. European countries were able to eridicate thoecracy from state govt.

Pakistan and india are still young countries that have theocracy dictate them especially in Pakistan. It would take years before religion is removed from govt level.

I for one hope china ends the islaminization that is happening and has happened in our country

Liar. Mob violence exists in USA right now which has nothing to do with theocracy.

Step outside of Pakistan for once to experience the realities of the world.
 
China will come down like a ton of bricks and it will bring Pakistan to its knees..

Nah, that's wishful thinking, it's not the Chinese way to take an overtly heavy-handed approach where diplomacy is concerned outside their borders. The iron fist is only reserved for the poor folks that live in that sordid country.

Not that any Chinese contractor or employee will ever face up to any criminal proceedings here, regardless of cause, they have a canny tendency to run away before things get heated.
 
Nah, that's wishful thinking, it's not the Chinese way to take an overtly heavy-handed approach where diplomacy is concerned outside their borders. The iron fist is only reserved for the poor folks that live in that sordid country.

They intervened in -

Korean War 1950
Sino-Indian War 1962
Vietnam War 1965-69
Sino-Soviet War 1969
Sino-Vietnamese War 1979
War on Terror 2001 to present
Northern Mali conflict 2012

They recently established a military base in Djibouti.

They are grabbing resources in the South China Sea and threatening their neighbours out of international shipping lanes.
 
They intervened in -

Korean War 1950
Sino-Indian War 1962
Vietnam War 1965-69
Sino-Soviet War 1969
Sino-Vietnamese War 1979
War on Terror 2001 to present
Northern Mali conflict 2012

They recently established a military base in Djibouti.

They are grabbing resources in the South China Sea and threatening their neighbours out of international shipping lanes.

They've currently for Taiwan's back to the wall
 
If the China man was trialed and god forbid convicted for blasphemy, that would be the end of Pakistan.

China will come down like a ton of bricks and it will bring Pakistan to its knees..

The blasphemy law wont be around for along, once China gets in control of Pakistan, it will be the end, maybe in a good way ? so far Pakistan burying its head in religion has seen them a broke, going no where country..

Keep dreaming Rotti bro, milk it for all it's worth before you wake up. :28::28:
 
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Did anyone hear about this or is it a fake ?

It is only being reported by Indian media.

WION is a joke, that woman Palki or whatever her name is, one of the most idiotic presenters out there. So I wouldn't be surprised if this fake.

Don't worry brother about some factory unintentionally offending Muslims. We would rather have your criticism of the intentional offence to Muslims by the BJP/RSS. We have Indians wanting Yogi to be the next PM, the guy is a fruitcake not to mention an Islamaphobic nutjob. Can you confirm you are against a person of such hate towards Muslims?
 
It is only being reported by Indian media.

WION is a joke, that woman Palki or whatever her name is, one of the most idiotic presenters out there. So I wouldn't be surprised if this fake.

Don't worry brother about some factory unintentionally offending Muslims. We would rather have your criticism of the intentional offence to Muslims by the BJP/RSS. We have Indians wanting Yogi to be the next PM, the guy is a fruitcake not to mention an Islamaphobic nutjob. Can you confirm you are against a person of such hate towards Muslims?

I am no fan of Yogi brother, I am not anti muslim either. I believe all should be on a level playing field, however I ain't no Pseudo Secular either...
 
I am no fan of Yogi brother, I am not anti muslim either. I believe all should be on a level playing field, however I ain't no Pseudo Secular either...

Never thought you would be. However it would help many millions in India, if there were more people like yourself who aren't Muslims wanting India to be communal coherent society , one of piece. Good for all, good for India.

Those who resort to violence of an insult don't understand their faith. A life is worth more than any insult or attack verbally by anyone.
 
Never thought you would be. However it would help many millions in India, if there were more people like yourself who aren't Muslims wanting India to be communal coherent society , one of piece. Good for all, good for India.

Those who resort to violence of an insult don't understand their faith. A life is worth more than any insult or attack verbally by anyone.

True words. One caveat is that it holds good for all countries not just a specific nation.
 
They intervened in -

Korean War 1950
Sino-Indian War 1962
Vietnam War 1965-69
Sino-Soviet War 1969
Sino-Vietnamese War 1979
War on Terror 2001 to present
Northern Mali conflict 2012

They recently established a military base in Djibouti.

They are grabbing resources in the South China Sea and threatening their neighbours out of international shipping lanes.

Most of those are domestic territorial issues, whereas the ones in Africa are predicated upon a grab for resources. The Chinese don't really pay much heed to ideology beyond naked self-interest, which is why the idea they'll be genuinely offended if Pakistan indicts a couple of inconsequential Chinese workers on blasphemy charges is far-fetched.

Unfortunately, human rights and western liberal concepts don't really feature much in the CCP manifesto. It would obviously be a different matter if those indicted were closely related to some head honcho in the CCP.
 
Most of those are domestic territorial issues, whereas the ones in Africa are predicated upon a grab for resources. The Chinese don't really pay much heed to ideology beyond naked self-interest, which is why the idea they'll be genuinely offended if Pakistan indicts a couple of inconsequential Chinese workers on blasphemy charges is far-fetched.

Unfortunately, human rights and western liberal concepts don't really feature much in the CCP manifesto. It would obviously be a different matter if those indicted were closely related to some head honcho in the CCP.

Sure, the culture is very different. They promote ‘safety’ as their highest virtue, not freedom or liberalism. They have good reason to seek internal calm as the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution killed tens of millions of their own people. You can’t even talk about history there - you will be sent to a gulag and ‘re-educated’.
 
Sure, the culture is very different. They promote ‘safety’ as their highest virtue, not freedom or liberalism. They have good reason to seek internal calm as the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution killed tens of millions of their own people. You can’t even talk about history there - you will be sent to a gulag and ‘re-educated’.

I once tried to talk about the cultural revolution and the famine with some Chinese colleagues while I was in Shanghai and was promptly shut down with a warning about the state listening everywhere. Much the same in the early days of the pandemic and talking about the possibility of a lab leak, the level of fear in that society is even outrageous for someone that's lived in other fairly repressive regimes in the Middle East. It's inexplicably suffocating.
 
I once tried to talk about the cultural revolution and the famine with some Chinese colleagues while I was in Shanghai and was promptly shut down with a warning about the state listening everywhere. Much the same in the early days of the pandemic and talking about the possibility of a lab leak, the level of fear in that society is even outrageous for someone that's lived in other fairly repressive regimes in the Middle East. It's inexplicably suffocating.

I've always wanted to ask this to someone who experienced China. Since you've lived in China, I'm asking.

How do the normal people feel about the CCP? I'm guessing the CCP must be very popular given the unprecedented rate they reduced poverty in their country and raised the overall living standards of people. But still, as people move up the economic ladder, they would start aspiring things like personal rights, freedom of speech, etc., in any country. Many south east asian nations which are rich economies now did experience a period of authoritarian rule in the past but they gradually transitioned into a free democracy afterwards as they developed. Everyone knows it's hard to criticise the CCP in public in the country, but does the average Chinese citizen ever talk even in a slightly critical tone of CCP in personal space, say with friends. Have you ever come across such people or is it all hush hush when it comes to talking about sensitive topics in China?
 
I've always wanted to ask this to someone who experienced China. Since you've lived in China, I'm asking.

How do the normal people feel about the CCP? I'm guessing the CCP must be very popular given the unprecedented rate they reduced poverty in their country and raised the overall living standards of people. But still, as people move up the economic ladder, they would start aspiring things like personal rights, freedom of speech, etc., in any country. Many south east asian nations which are rich economies now did experience a period of authoritarian rule in the past but they gradually transitioned into a free democracy afterwards as they developed. Everyone knows it's hard to criticise the CCP in public in the country, but does the average Chinese citizen ever talk even in a slightly critical tone of CCP in personal space, say with friends. Have you ever come across such people or is it all hush hush when it comes to talking about sensitive topics in China?

The CCP were immensely clever in enacting an educational system during the 70s and 80s which allowed them to condition the populace in such a way that any criticism of the state or questioning the authority of the state is strictly taboo.

The system also suppresses any form of critical thinking at a young age, whereby children are taught rules and regulations which they have to memorize and adhere to.

As an aside, this method of learning ties in well with the inherent way of learning the Chinese language, with the need to memorize characters and tones at a young age, which is vastly different to how someone learns English or French or even Urdu.

I found that the common Chinese person is conditioned to not argue or question the authority of the state, in much the same way people in Pakistan are conditioned to not argue or question the sanctity of religion. Even in private settings, people would generally be fearful to criticize the government.

That is not to say in any way that Chinese people are unintelligent or lack critical faculties to pose existential questions about life, but the culture rips out that natural inclination and the vast majority of people consider it normal to believe that the state is all-knowing and powerful. In fact those existential questions invariably occur when the state flounders, such as at the beginning of the pandemic last year.

It is at those moments that the state's vast intelligence machinery (i.e. surveillance network) ramps up to snub out any criticism (including private or even that implied in jest) given that all social media networks are carefully tracked.

The level of repression in big towns is greater than the case in rural areas or small provincial towns away from the centre, which makes sense as the overall idea for the CCP is to control the centre at all costs while the peripheries virtually take care of themselves with patronage and opportunities for graft from state-owned enterprises and infrastructure projects for the local officials.

When the party makes a mistake, people tend to take out their anger at a local level i.e. at government officials operating at provincial level, given that the writ of the central apparatus is unquestioned and beyond reproach.
 
It is only being reported by Indian media.

WION is a joke, that woman Palki or whatever her name is, one of the most idiotic presenters out there. So I wouldn't be surprised if this fake.

Knowing China, it's real, and they have continually and once again proven that they can do what they want. As their senior CCP leader remarked earlier this year - "Every Muslim has a price", and they have the funds to buy them out.
 
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Knowing China, it's real, and they have continually and once again proven that they can do what they want. As their senior CCP leader remarked earlier this year - "Every Muslim has a price", and they have the funds to buy them out.

Can you send a link to that muslim has a price statement?
 
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The CCP were immensely clever in enacting an educational system during the 70s and 80s which allowed them to condition the populace in such a way that any criticism of the state or questioning the authority of the state is strictly taboo.

The system also suppresses any form of critical thinking at a young age, whereby children are taught rules and regulations which they have to memorize and adhere to.

As an aside, this method of learning ties in well with the inherent way of learning the Chinese language, with the need to memorize characters and tones at a young age, which is vastly different to how someone learns English or French or even Urdu.

I found that the common Chinese person is conditioned to not argue or question the authority of the state, in much the same way people in Pakistan are conditioned to not argue or question the sanctity of religion. Even in private settings, people would generally be fearful to criticize the government.

That is not to say in any way that Chinese people are unintelligent or lack critical faculties to pose existential questions about life, but the culture rips out that natural inclination and the vast majority of people consider it normal to believe that the state is all-knowing and powerful. In fact those existential questions invariably occur when the state flounders, such as at the beginning of the pandemic last year.

It is at those moments that the state's vast intelligence machinery (i.e. surveillance network) ramps up to snub out any criticism (including private or even that implied in jest) given that all social media networks are carefully tracked.

The level of repression in big towns is greater than the case in rural areas or small provincial towns away from the centre, which makes sense as the overall idea for the CCP is to control the centre at all costs while the peripheries virtually take care of themselves with patronage and opportunities for graft from state-owned enterprises and infrastructure projects for the local officials.

When the party makes a mistake, people tend to take out their anger at a local level i.e. at government officials operating at provincial level, given that the writ of the central apparatus is unquestioned and beyond reproach.

Thanks for the detailed reply. And yes, I've always felt the Chinese online criticise their local governments if they have to, but never the central command in CCP. But then again, the Chinese people I've come across online have never felt like real people to me because all they do is boast how China is the most perfect society in the world and how Chinese mindset is always geared towards growth and development. While Indians and Pakistanis often abuse each other online, they also often criticise their own governments as well a lot for their failures and call names of their own leaders. All the Chinese I've encountered online have felt like bots to me lol.
 
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