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Chinese researchers have claimed that coronavirus originated in India, in the latest attempt by academics to pin blame for the pandemic outside their borders.

A team from the Chinese Academy of Sciences argues the virus likely originated in India in summer 2019 - jumping from animals to humans via contaminated water - before travelling unnoticed to Wuhan, where it was first detected.

But David Robertson, and expert from Glasgow University, called the paper 'very flawed' and concluded 'it adds nothing to our understanding of coronavirus'.

It is not the first time that Chinese authorities have pointed the finger of blame elsewhere - suggesting, largely without evidence, that both Italy and the US could be the site of the original infection.

And it comes against a backdrop of increased political tensions between India and China, with troops attacking each-other along a disputed border.

The WHO is currently looking for the source of coronavirus in China, while the body of scientific evidence suggests the disease originated there.

In their paper, the Chinese team use phylogenetic analysis - a study of how a virus mutates - to attempt to trace the origins of Covid-19.

Viruses, like all cells, mutate as they reproduce, meaning tiny changes occur in their DNA each time they replicate themselves.

China's official timeline vs The new evidence

Official timeline

Dec 8 - Earliest date that China has acknowledged an infection

Dec 31 - China first reported 'pneumonia of unknown cause' to the World Health Organisation

Jan 1 - Wuhan seafood market closed for disinfection

Jan 11 - China reported its first death

Jan 23 - Wuhan locked down

Jan 31 - WHO declared 'outbreak of international concern' as China admitted having thousands of cases

Feb 23 - Italy reports cluster of cases in first major outbreak not linked to travellers from China

New evidence

Sep - Blood samples taken in Milan found to contain Covid antibodies

Oct-Dec - Hundreds of 'pneumonia' cases near Milan may be linked to virus, and scientists are investigating

Nov - Sewage samples taken in Florianópolis, Brazil, suggest virus was present and are being investigated

Nov 17 - Leaked documents suggest case detected in China on this date

Dec 1 - Chinese researchers report an infection on this date in a peer-reviewed study, but it has not been acknowledged by Beijing

Dec 18 - Sewage samples taken in Milan and Turin suggest virus was circulating in the cities

Jan 2020 - Sewage samples from Barcelona suggest virus was in the city

The scientists argue that it should therefore be possible to track down the original version of the virus by finding the sample with the fewest mutations.

They say that using this method rules out the virus found in Wuhan as the 'original' virus, and instead points to eight other countries: Bangladesh, the USA, Greece, Australia, India, Italy, Czech Republic, Russia or Serbia.

Researchers go on to argue that because India and Bangladesh both recorded samples with low mutations and are geographic neighbours, it is likely that the first transmission occurred there.

By estimating the amount of time it takes for the virus to mutate once, and comparing that to the samples taken there, they also theorise that the virus first emerged there in July or August 2019.

They go on to say: 'From May to June 2019, the second longest recorded heat wave had rampaged in northern-central India and Pakistan, which created a serious water crisis in this region.

'The water shortage made wild animals such as monkeys engage in the deadly fight over water among each other and would have surely increased the chance of human-wild animal interactions.

'We speculated that the [animal to human] transmission of SARS-CoV-2 might be associated with this unusual heat wave.'

Researchers further argue that India's poor healthcare system and young population - who suffer less severe symptoms of Covid - allowed the virus to spread undetected for several months.

They speculate that the virus could have spread to the other countries on their list before coming to China, possibly via Europe.

'In this regard, the COVID-19 pandemic is inevitable and the Wuhan epidemic is only a part of it,' they conclude.

However, other researchers were not impressed with the findings.

In a statement to Mail Online, Professor Robertson said: 'The author's approach of identifying the “least mutated” virus sequences is... inherently biased.

'The authors have also ignored the extensive epidemiological data available that shows clear emergence in China and that the virus spread from there.

'This paper adds nothing to our understanding of SARS-CoV-2.'

Marc Suchard, an expert from the University of California, told the South China Morning Post: 'Picking the viral sequence that appears to have the least number of differences to the others in an arbitrary collection is unlikely to yield the progenitor.'

Another UK-based researcher told Mail Online that the study contains 'big claims' and that he is 'skeptical' of the findings.

Coroanvirus first emerged in China in December 2019, linked to a cluster of cases of 'pneumonia of unknown origin' at a seafood market in the city.

It then spread across China before making its way to other countires, mostly via toursits, where it spread rapidly and caused a pandemic.

But nobody has been able to identify 'patient zero' the first person known to have caught the disease, which means we do not known when or where exactly the first infection occurred.

That has led rise to intense speculation and founded many conspiracy theories, none of which have so far been substantiated.

The World Health Organisation, under pressure because of its own response to the pandemic, has sent a 10-person team to China to investigate.

While the team admit it is possible that the virus originated outside of the country, their initial searches are all focused within China's borders.

The UN agency has tried to temper expectations ahead of the investigation, warning that tracking any new pathogen is a 'riddle that can take years to solve'.

It took more than a year for scientists to prove MERS, another coronavirus, originated in camels in Saudi Arabia, and even longer to trace the original SARS back to bats in a cave in southern China.

The Chinese paper was also published shortly before the WHO released the details of scientists leading the probe in China.

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LOL.

Anyways even if true (I haven’t done any research but I’m sure not), the Chinese have lost all credibility on this and there is no reason to take them at their word.
 
It is not the first time that Chinese authorities have pointed the finger of blame elsewhere - suggesting, largely without evidence, that both Italy and the US could be the site of the original infection.

I am confused. So did it originated in India, Italy or USA?

Ridiculous.
 
We now know the claim this virus spread from China in Oct was false. It has been around since September in Europe.

I wouldnt be suprised if spread from India.
 
This is how shambling a organisation like WHO has been. They sent an investigation team to China but not to Wuhan. ridiculous.
Trump was very much right in not funding WHO further
Now China is putting on unacceptable sanctions just because Australia called for investigation on origin of coronavirus. China is hiding something big
 
The more Chinese try these finger pointing bat others, it hurts their credibility further.
 
Considering how batty their PM is it is very much possible it emerged from India
 
The Chinese just don't want to take responsibility of the mess they have created. So it originated in India in the summer of 2019 and waited for 6 months to reach China before spreading to the rest of the world? The Chinese should stick to stealing IP and leave the "research" to the rest of the world.
 
Clowns. Only absolute morons take any proclamations from the CCP at face value. Biggest scoundrels on the planet.
 
Calling it the Wuhan Virus is too kind.

Let's refer to it as the Chinese Plague.
 
Nice try. Trump is wrong about everything except calling this thing the China virus.

This is the problem, while idiots like Trump are turning Covid into a political tool, then you can hardly expect others not to try the same tactic. Wouldn't surprise me if India retaliated by blaming a joint Pakistan-China initiative for the virus.
 
Great day for Bakths. They should be celebrating on how we brought the entire world to a stand still. We have truly defeated the entire world and conquered every singleone's life style. India #1. We won. Great News.


Jokes apart, yeah right China. Of course you are right.
 
(Reuters) - Former top U.S. infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci strongly denied suppressing the theory that COVID-19 originated from a lab leak in China, telling lawmakers he never influenced research on the origins of the virus.

In his first time addressing the allegations publicly since a 14-hour hearing held behind closed doors in January, Fauci also reiterated that he believes the most likely origin of the pandemic was animal-to-human transmission.
 
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