Chris Woakes walking out with an arm in sling - Necessary risk or "dramaybazi"?

[MenInG]

What a game it was! Whilst I enjoyed the drama and the emotion, I am not too convinced if Chris Woakes walking with a sling etc was needed.

What if he had a collision with a fielder or slipped and fallen on his injured arm? I am not a medical expert but if someone is in so much pain, that is a sure sign of discomfort and seriousness of an injury.

It's also funny how the Indian win is getting equal kudos with Woakes "Heroics"

Fact is that the game was pretty much gone by the time he showed up and some incredible miracle would have been the only way England would have won.

 

[Devadwal]

Kudos to Woakes, playing with only one hand. Respect

But no player should feel compelled to put themselves at risk of serious, potentially career-ending injury. It's time for test cricket to have a serious discussion about playing substitutes. Of course there will be moments where rules like that can be exploited.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

He put himself on the line for his country. It's not a task for everyone

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

He put himself on the line for his country. It's not a task for everyone

Bumrah won us a world cup. He's done his bit.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I don't think it was a dumb move but yes it was evident all along, that he was just there to allow Atkinson have a wild go at the target and he did well to add 10 more runs and fell short by 6. One can't imagine what would have been scenes had Atkinson pulled it off.

Woakes was always supposed to be there at the non strikers end. And it was worth a risk.

 

[Vikram1989]

Did he announce before the series that he would have a cold and only play certain matches?

What's the difference as per u when someone is backstabbing ur team announced or not ? Most teams are happy to take known risk .

 

[Bhaijaan]

Salim Malik did it against West Indies. Heroic stuff. Also incredibly skilled to actually put bat to ball against such bowlers.

I thought it was brave. Forget batting, even running was agonizing but he ran 2s. So huge respect to him for turning up and even allowing India a fair moment of winning. Would have been bit dull if they just shook hands with 9 down. I think sometimes it’s not just about yourself either but you should also allow your opponent t the closure they deserve. He did that.

 

[jnaveen1980]

England was desperate. That could have gone real ugly if a bouncer had hit his shoulders.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Having said that we were robbed of a classic moment of seeing him face even one delivery.

I know the game is bigger and it being on the line Atkinson had no reason to give him strike. It was up to India to make it happen but Krishna bowled a poor 6th delivery in the penultimate over otherwise we would have had a roaring Mohammad Siraj bowling at Woakes batting with one hand and the other being plastered. It would have ended in cricketing folklore for sure.

 

[sweep_shot]

I say it was a necessary risk because England were close to the target.

It almost paid off as England fell short by merely 7 runs.

 

[rpant_gabba]

Meh. Malcolm marshal bowled with one arm in a cast, took 7 wickets, had a caught and bowled

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/west-indies-tour-of-england-1984-61869/england-vs-west-indies-3rd-test-63377/full-scorecard

 

[shariqnoor]

I am biased in this situation because I had a shoulder dislocation playing cricket in December last year and had my right arm in a sling for a month. It's still not fully healed. The fact that Woakes came out is in itself a feat to be lauded. Deep down inside I was hoping he gets to play 1 ball. It would've been epic.

 

[Technics 1210]

You cannot blames Woakes. The ICC Laws should made exceptions for situations like this and allow a sub.

 

[Smbhayi]

Kudos to Woakes, playing with only one hand. Respect

But no player should feel compelled to put themselves at risk of serious, potentially career-ending injury. It's time for test cricket to have a serious discussion about playing substitutes. Of course there will be moments where rules like that can be exploited.

No sub pls.. don't like sub for even concussion..

 

[pillionrider]

You cannot blames Woakes. The ICC Laws should made exceptions for situations like this and allow a sub.

You had similar feelings when Pant walked out to bat with a broken toe?

btw did you enjoy his somersault? Remember you being concerned after his accident that he wouldn't be the same player and that his back would be a lifelong issue

 

[pillionrider]

I think we should just judge the player for his behavior and not be swayed by all the hullaballoo around. Woakes did a selfless thing to help his team try to win the series. Just because the notorious British media make a lot of noise about it shouldn't influence. Just like how we as fans on either side should try to not judge each other's players based on what idiot fans on either side post. It's very hard to do and I personally have noticed myself succumbing to this. For eg: I would have enjoyed Babar's batting back when he was on the rise better, if I hadn't read all the hype and dethroning Kohli rubbish.

 

[pillionrider]

Salim Malik did it against West Indies. Heroic stuff. Also incredibly skilled to actually put bat to ball against such bowlers.

This is crazy. Never seen this before.

 

[Mamoon]

Salim Malik did it against West Indies. Heroic stuff. Also incredibly skilled to actually put bat to ball against such bowlers.

I thought it was brave. Forget batting, even running was agonizing but he ran 2s. So huge respect to him for turning up and even allowing India a fair moment of winning. Would have been bit dull if they just shook hands with 9 down. I think sometimes it’s not just about yourself either but you should also allow your opponent t the closure they deserve. He did that.

This is crazy. Never seen this before.

Many shades of Salim Malik.

Not only was a he a match fixer but he also put his body on the line for Pakistan. Shaytaan confused as well.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Many shades of Salim Malik.

Not only was a he a match fixer but he also put his body on the line for Pakistan. Shaytaan confused as well.

Most of the fixers of the 90s were great cricketers

It’s only recent they started approaching Sreesanth, Umar Akmal type people

 

[Bhaijaan]

This is crazy. Never seen this before.

The amount of skill to pull it off is insane. We all tried this at some point in backyard cricket and failed miserably.

Pulling it off against Marshal, Walsh, Patterson lol

 

[pillionrider]

Many shades of Salim Malik.

Not only was a he a match fixer but he also put his body on the line for Pakistan. Shaytaan confused as well.

I am old enough to have watched him bat. He and Ijaz Ahmed were two of my favorite players back then.

 

[Mamoon]

I am old enough to have watched him bat. He and Ijaz Ahmed were two of my favorite players back then.

Ijaz was an entertaining player to watch because he was quite different from other Asian batsmen and which is why he did really well in Australia, but he was one of the reasons why the 90’s Pakistan struggled so much in home Tests.

He was poor vs spin bowling. That team would have been a very formidable one if they had someone like Younis Khan at 3.

 

[pillionrider]

The amount of skill to pull it off is insane. We all tried this at some point in backyard cricket and failed miserably.

Pulling it off against Marshal, Walsh, Patterson lol

That 2nd ball he's shown facing here is

 

[RexRex]

It was great theatre, I wanted to see Woakes actually face a ball. He would have been immortalised in cricket history had he got them close to the line.

 

[RexRex]

Salim Malik did it against West Indies. Heroic stuff. Also incredibly skilled to actually put bat to ball against such bowlers.

This is great footage, never seen this before.

 

[nish_mate]

He put himself on the line for his country. It's not a task for everyone

Akram would agree with you......

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Ijaz was an entertaining player to watch because he was quite different from other Asian batsmen and which is why he did really well in Australia, but he was one of the reasons why the 90’s Pakistan struggled so much in home Tests.

He was poor vs spin bowling. That team would have been a very formidable one if they had someone like Younis Khan at 3.

Ijaz was a good ODI batter and really slapped the ball hard. Remember SA and NZ found him hard to get out in 2000 tri series.

 

[TheSultan]

This is not something new:

Malcolm Marshall and Paul Terry in the same series in 1984. (Incidentally Marshall went on to get his career best (up to that point) bowling figures in the 4th innings)

Salim Malik as we all know.

Woakes went out to bat and England reduced the target from 17 to 6. They were one hit away from victory. Was worth it.

And regardless, it was good audition for Woakes’ character for Ashes selection. Personally I thought he had a poor series with the ball, but he’s trying to find a way to get in to that Ashes squad. Good on him

 

[pratiktc]

It is a failure of the game and its rules that it puts sportspersons and teams in such position.

Athletes are driven by pride, esprit de corps and some patriotic fervour and being young they do not really see beyond the task at hand while not seeing what are term risk implications for themselves as individuals and professionals.

Media people love these things because it is a free article for lauding bravery and sportsman spirit and other fuzzy nonsense.

Some players, analysts and comms say that injury substitute rule is unworkable because teams will try to game them for advantages.

Well, It would stop being inspiring pretty quickly if Woakes/Pant ended up with a Phil Hughes like outcome while being compromised so severely in their ability to bat.

I would much rather have a sport where some captain whines about the pacer being replaced by a leggie rather than where someone has ro explain to parents of a young cricketer that their kid is in a coma or worse because he was trying to win a game of cricket while being handicapped.

 

[pratiktc]

Ridiculous that the rulemakers spend time and effort detailing intricacies of what is permitted and how many jumps are allowed in a boundary catch but can't come up with a fair and equitable injury sub rule.

 

[saimayubera]

Still remember Wasim Akram ruling himself out like a coward in that Bangalore WC classic. Given the way Waqar was slaughtered, he probably did well to choose the dishonorable option.

He didn't even have an injury cloud lol and did it 15 minutes before toss.

 

[harshjoshi87]

Ijaz was an entertaining player to watch because he was quite different from other Asian batsmen and which is why he did really well in Australia, but he was one of the reasons why the 90’s Pakistan struggled so much in home Tests.

He was poor vs spin bowling. That team would have been a very formidable one if they had someone like Younis Khan at 3.

Even i liked the way Ijaz batted. Ijaz holding his bat like an axe weilder just before facing the ball was very entertaining to watch.

 

[Sachin fan]

It is a failure of the game and its rules that it puts sportspersons and teams in such position.

Athletes are driven by pride, esprit de corps and some patriotic fervour and being young they do not really see beyond the task at hand while not seeing what are term risk implications for themselves as individuals and professionals.

Media people love these things because it is a free article for lauding bravery and sportsman spirit and other fuzzy nonsense.

Some players, analysts and comms say that injury substitute rule is unworkable because teams will try to game them for advantages.

Well, It would stop being inspiring pretty quickly if Woakes/Pant ended up with a Phil Hughes like outcome while being compromised so severely in their ability to bat.

I would much rather have a sport where some captain whines about the pacer being replaced by a leggie rather than where someone has ro explain to parents of a young cricketer that their kid is in a coma or worse because he was trying to win a game of cricket while being handicapped.

Yep, it's pseudo machoism, it can very well lead to a career ending injury for players and for what?

 

[BouncerGuy]

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[BouncerGuy]

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