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A Christian teenager has been beaten to death by his classmates in Pakistan.

Sharoon Masih was the only Christian in his year and was attacked after he apparently drank from the same glass as a Muslim.

The 17-year-old had only been at MC Model Boys Government School Burewala in Punjab for three days before the incident.

The teacher who was present at the time of the attack, Nazir Mol, said he did not notice the incident as he was reading a newspaper, iNews reported.

One student, Muhammad Ahmed Rana, has been arrested so far and he has apparently claimed that he lashed out at Mr Masih after he broke the screen on his phone.

Mr Rana has refused to name any of the others who were involved in the attack.

An autopsy revealed that Mr Rana died after repeated blows to his body and his head.

His mother described the death as a “huge” loss.

“No proper investigation is being done,” Mr Masih’s mother, Razia Bibi, told iNews.

“We had great intimacy and were looking to him to support us and his sibling as we grow old,” she added.

He was sent to MC Model Boys Government School Burewala after performing well academically at his school in his local village.

His family saved for years to afford the attendance fee and were not able to pay for his school uniform.

Mr Masih attended the first day in his own clothes and was apparently slapped around the face twice and made to stand outside all day as punishment for doing so.

He was also subjected to a range of insults and other students reportedly tried to force convert him to Islam.

Wilson Chowdhry, the chairman of the British Pakistani Christian Association, said this was a reminder of the struggles faced by Christians in Pakistan.

“[This] serves only to remind us that hatred towards religious minorities is bred into the majority population at a young age, through cultural norms and a biased national curriculum,” he said.

The headteacher of the school, Saleem Tahir, was suspended after the attack, but is still attending the school.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...mc-moden-boys-government-school-a7936796.html
 
Pakistan is still mired in caste culture, this is the sort of stuff you see prevalent in the subcontinent. Christians are still associated with low class professions from the old days when they converted to escape the stigma. Disgusting episode all round.
 
Totally unacceptable and racist attitude to the core. No investigation is possible in a country where Mullah's will start threatening anyone who demands justice. They cry for the Rohingya and other Muslim's while treating their own people like filth. Where are the likes of Sheikh Rasheed, IK and TuQ when such things happen or are they to afraid of Mullah's?. Even at their worst Muslim's in the west get treated far better then Christian's do in Pakistan. I don't care how minorities are treated in India. In Pakistan the religious clergy worries if your pants should cover you ankles and stupid things like that instead of human rights.
 
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This is disgusting, hang those who kill minority. Pakistan need to protect its minority and its right to be a successful nation.
 
Pakistan is a living hell for minorities..
But pakistani muslims are the first ones to point out when muslims are mistreated anywhere else..
 
Pakistan is still mired in caste culture, this is the sort of stuff you see prevalent in the subcontinent. Christians are still associated with low class professions from the old days when they converted to escape the stigma. Disgusting episode all round.

Are Pakistani christians mostly Lower caste converts ?
 
Are Pakistani christians mostly Lower caste converts ?

Rana is a Rajput caste guy.

Masih must be a Dalit.

A Dalit can never drink from the same as an upper caste guy. Religions change. Bigotry does not.
 
Such a misery that violence is our road map to peace. Across all dimensions.

And it's contagious.
 
What's the worst part of this article is that kids are forcing the other kid to covert and heckled him to death.. This shows how the upbringing of kids in Pakistan is against minorities, parents/schools should teach unity I remember growing up we were taught "Hindu Muslim Sikh isai Sab hai bhai bhai" types slogan so at least as kids we didn't have hatred amongst any fellow students..
 
Disgusting.

The teacher who was present at the time of the attack, Nazir Mol, said he did not notice the incident as he was reading a newspaper, iNews reported.
Shame on this school, this teacher should be behind bars for negligence.
 
Shame

Makes me ashamed to be Pakistani
 
Totally unacceptable and racist attitude to the core. No investigation is possible in a country where Mullah's will start threatening anyone who demands justice. They cry for the Rohingya and other Muslim's while treating their own people like filth. Where are the likes of Sheikh Rasheed, IK and TuQ when such things happen or are they to afraid of Mullah's?. Even at their worst Muslim's in the west get treated far better then Christian's do in Pakistan. I don't care how minorities are treated in India. In Pakistan the religious clergy worries if your pants should cover you ankles and stupid things like that instead of human rights.

You might not care how minorities are treated in India, but the affliction of caste discrimination is part of the same disease and it's unique to the subcontinent. You can read stories about Dalits (often Christians) getting similar treatment over the border quite regularly. But I agree with you, the mullahs should be raising a hue and cry over this issue as well as the Rohingya massacre.
 
This is disgusting. Some things make me proud to be Pakistani but this definitely isn't one of the things. Hopefully the murderers are punished
 
Pakistan is a living hell for minorities..
But pakistani muslims are the first ones to point out when muslims are mistreated anywhere else..

Get off of your high horse, everyone on this forum and anyone with any decency would condemn this.

You have to criticize for the sake of the criticism and it is true that at time minority in Pakistan aren't treated with respect they deserve but Muslim on this forum and the Muslims that' I come across would condemn it and want the perpetrators to be strictly punished, rather hanged.

Now put bandaid on your wrist before you bleed to no where.
 
You have the death penalty. Use it for something good for once. Like on the children and the teacher responsible for the murder.
 
Totally unacceptable and racist attitude to the core. No investigation is possible in a country where Mullah's will start threatening anyone who demands justice. They cry for the Rohingya and other Muslim's while treating their own people like filth. Where are the likes of Sheikh Rasheed, IK and TuQ when such things happen or are they to afraid of Mullah's?. Even at their worst Muslim's in the west get treated far better then Christian's do in Pakistan. I don't care how minorities are treated in India. In Pakistan the religious clergy worries if your pants should cover you ankles and stupid things like that instead of human rights.

You might not care how minorities are treated in India, but the affliction of caste discrimination is part of the same disease and it's unique to the subcontinent. You can read stories about Dalits (often Christians) getting similar treatment over the border quite regularly. But I agree with you, the mullahs should be raising a hue and cry over this issue as well as the Rohingya massacre.

This incident shows the upbringing these kids get from heir parents and teachers.. They are KIDS who killed another kid this issue is not your usual treatment of minorities but a bigger issue of mindset being imbibed in kids amongst minorities.. Growing up in Indian school we were taught all religions are same and everyone is our brother granted I studied in a Christian school but still that was the motto in school and family.. I would have thought in Pakistan also kids would have been taught along similar lines..
 
Disgusted.

Pakistan needs a big cultural overhaul like I've said many times before! People there who haven't experienced better think the life they're living is acceptable smh!
 
Get off of your high horse, everyone on this forum and anyone with any decency would condemn this.

You have to criticize for the sake of the criticism and it is true that at time minority in Pakistan aren't treated with respect they deserve but Muslim on this forum and the Muslims that' I come across would condemn it and want the perpetrators to be strictly punished, rather hanged.

Now put bandaid on your wrist before you bleed to no where.


Problem is much deeper and just condemnation would not address the issue.
 
You might not care how minorities are treated in India, but the affliction of caste discrimination is part of the same disease and it's unique to the subcontinent. You can read stories about Dalits (often Christians) getting similar treatment over the border quite regularly. But I agree with you, the mullahs should be raising a hue and cry over this issue as well as the Rohingya massacre.

I know India is a hell for minorities. By saying I don't care what I mean is we are in no position to lecture them on human rights abuses. Only the most biased Indian's believe for their country to be a heaven for minorities. It is not even safe for truth telling journalists since Modi became PM.
 
This is sick. But everything seems to be fine for "Muslims" in Pakistan when it comes to punishing others.

Btw that newspaper must have some heck of content that a murder goes un-noticed.
 
This incident shows the upbringing these kids get from heir parents and teachers.. They are KIDS who killed another kid this issue is not your usual treatment of minorities but a bigger issue of mindset being imbibed in kids amongst minorities.. Growing up in Indian school we were taught all religions are same and everyone is our brother granted I studied in a Christian school but still that was the motto in school and family.. I would have thought in Pakistan also kids would have been taught along similar lines..

I don't know what kids are taught, I just think that it's only in the subcontinent that lower castes can get killed for drinking water from the same glass as a higher caste. There may be some crossover with religions here but it suggests that in Pakistan they still have the hang ups from the caste hierarchy embedded in Hindu culture.
 
I don't know what kids are taught, I just think that it's only in the subcontinent that lower castes can get killed for drinking water from the same glass as a higher caste. There may be some crossover with religions here but it suggests that in Pakistan they still have the hang ups from the caste hierarchy embedded in Hindu culture.

True. Subcontinent has the highest number of syeds in the world. They took Islam, but did not give up their casteism.
 
I don't know what kids are taught, I just think that it's only in the subcontinent that lower castes can get killed for drinking water from the same glass as a higher caste. There may be some crossover with religions here but it suggests that in Pakistan they still have the hang ups from the caste hierarchy embedded in Hindu culture.

Always finding way to blame India and Hindus. What about when an theist was publicly lynched in university couple of months ago ? Was that Hindu hangover as well ?
 
The whataboutism is strong here. You'd think the kid was killed in India because of his caste and not in Pakistan because of his religion. This has become SOP in Pakistan among nationalist circles, to bring up India's lack of toilets or rising levels of religious bigotry to divert attention every time something like this happens in Pakistan which is pretty frequent.
 
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Always finding way to blame India and Hindus. What about when an theist was publicly lynched in university couple of months ago ? Was that Hindu hangover as well ?

Don't think hindus are being blamed. In fact, it is being acknowledged that sub continental muslims are still mired in casteism in spite of islam, an evil which exists among muslims, whose source can be traced back to their hindu past.
 
Muslims are taught a version of Islam that is extremely exclusive, almost like a private club only those with Muslim names are allowed to join. But those who study the Qur'an, and understand its Message, know that it is inclusive.

Jews and Christians are Ahl-Al-Kitaab - People of The Book. All nations and peoples have to be treated with respect, this is a fundamental requirement of Islam.

The Commandment 'There is no compulsion in religion' (Q2:256) means that force or coercion cannot be employed in religious matters. Allah SwT has gifted human beings with free will so that they can choose their own belief system, choose their own path through life. Since Allah Swt does not force people to believe in Him, who are these ignorant Muslims who go about trying to impose their beliefs - in reality, will - upon others?

Every Muslim has a responsibility in conveying the truth about Islam, the true contents of the Qur'an. It is all very well bemoaning the evil acts of ignorant Muslims, but we all have to reduce the level of illiteracy about Islam that exists across the Muslim world.
 
The whataboutism is strong here. You'd think the kid was killed in India because of his caste and not in Pakistan because of his religion. This has become SOP in Pakistan among nationalist circles, to bring up India's lack of toilets or rising levels of religious bigotry to divert attention every time something like this happens in Pakistan which is pretty frequent.

It's true though. You have to ask yourself would this happen anywhere else in the world apart from the subcontinent, then you have to ask yourself why. Dalits killed for drinking water of upper castes in India, Christians (usually associated with low caste) killed for drinking water of Muslims in Pakistan. Tell me honestly there's no correlation.

In the oil rich Arab countries the best jobs go to western Christians who are headhunted from abroad. If anything even the Arab prejudices are similar to the subcontinent and based on class rather than religion, which is why a white professional will be treated with more respect than a low grade Muslim worker from the subcontinent. I'm sure you've probably made this same point yourself plenty of times.
 
It's true though. You have to ask yourself would this happen anywhere else in the world apart from the subcontinent, then you have to ask yourself why. Dalits killed for drinking water of upper castes in India, Christians (usually associated with low caste) killed for drinking water of Muslims in Pakistan. Tell me honestly there's no correlation.

In the oil rich Arab countries the best jobs go to western Christians who are headhunted from abroad. If anything even the Arab prejudices are similar to the subcontinent and based on class rather than religion, which is why a white professional will be treated with more respect than a low grade Muslim worker from the subcontinent. I'm sure you've probably made this same point yourself plenty of times.

We always give the best jobs to best people.There are many Indian corporates who are well flourished and there are also Pakistanis.
 
The whataboutism is strong here. You'd think the kid was killed in India because of his caste and not in Pakistan because of his religion. This has become SOP in Pakistan among nationalist circles, to bring up India's lack of toilets or rising levels of religious bigotry to divert attention every time something like this happens in Pakistan which is pretty frequent.

I wonder why what aboutsim is rarely used when it comes to sectarian killings. You don't see posters mentioning Syria, Iraq, Yemen etc. Maybe it's difficult to blame religion.
 
I wonder why what aboutsim is rarely used when it comes to sectarian killings. You don't see posters mentioning Syria, Iraq, Yemen etc. Maybe it's difficult to blame religion.

Sectarianism is everything to do with religion, not that it has any relevance to this topic. When you don't want to face uncomfortable questions about it, then it's a lame response to start discussing other posters motives on a completely unrelated topic.
 
Those who kill in the name of caste are disgusted individuals who should be punished severely to set an example for others.
Though I have no idea why people are whining about casteism when it's clearly a religious issue.Guess it's a sort of coping mechanism for a few middle aged uncles to connect India and her culture to every god damn thing wrong with Pakistan.
 
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I don't know how many times it needs to be repeated, but the correlation is clearly there for caste related violence in India and Pakistan. Here it might have got mixed up in Pakistan's own version of Islam, but it's there nonetheless. You can attack whoever points it out as much as you like, but you can't deny it. It's obviously a factor.
 
I don't know how many times it needs to be repeated, but the correlation is clearly there for caste related violence in India and Pakistan. Here it might have got mixed up in Pakistan's own version of Islam, but it's there nonetheless. You can attack whoever points it out as much as you like, but you can't deny it. It's obviously a factor.

I don't know how familiar you are with the intricacies of Pakistani society but religion is the primary driving factor for such incidents here, not caste. An upper caste Christian would not fare any better. What's the caste angle in, for instance, the Ahmadi situation?
 
Don't think Capt. has denied religious extremism. He has pointed that there is another form of bigotry in the form of casteism that exists too, which can be traced to their hindu past. He is only saying that the problem is greater and the focus should not be just religious extremism.
 
I don't know how familiar you are with the intricacies of Pakistani society but religion is the primary driving factor for such incidents here, not caste. An upper caste Christian would not fare any better. What's the caste angle in, for instance, the Ahmadi situation?

Seems to me that caste and religion has got mixed up quite a lot in Pakistan, hence the similarity in attacks across both sides of the border. I don't think I've ever claimed that the Ahmadi situation was down to caste, pretty clearly religious bigotry in that case. Not that it's relevant in this case but anyway. Seems to me it's you who wants to ignore intricacies when it suits you and lump every problem down to the same root cause.
 
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