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Clean homes, dirty streets - India's civic sense problem

Heres Leicester - the Most populated hindu city here in UK:


Concerns regarding dirtiness in Leicester, UK, center on littering, overflowing bins, and neglected areas like Abbey Park, causing frustration among residents. Online discussions and reports highlight issues with garbage on streets, particularly in areas like Highfields, Greenlane Road, and near city schools. The city also faces challenges with labor exploitation in the garment industry, which has sometimes been described as a "sweatshop" environment.
BBC +5
Key points regarding the "dirty" claims in Leicester:
  • Litter and Maintenance: Residents report accumulating litter in city streets and parks, with neglected areas.
  • Specific Areas: Public reports and community discussions frequently mention high litter levels in Highfields, Greenlane Road, and around Abbey Park.
  • Garment Industry Issues: Investigations have identified illegal wage underpayments, with some workers describing the conditions as "dirty".
  • Environmental Concerns: Discussions mention unemptied bins, food waste on the ground, and litter affecting the quality of life.


Below is a very well known Indian problem here in the UK - many of the indian clothes factories here in the UK are all known for the below article

Working for £3 an hour made me feel dirty'​


 
Here is a verse from the Bhagvad Gita 16.2 - "There are three gates leading to hell—lust, anger, and greed. Every sane person should abandon these"

My guess is hindus reading that will derive their moral standard from that verse. Is that good enough for ya ?

Now please answer my question about the taliban judge since you cite Quran as the single source of truth and virtue.
You either lack the intellectual capacity to understand a point or Your capacity to keep on being dishonest is beyond the pale!
  1. In Hinduism, a person is regarded as a Hindu even when they say "I do not believe in Bhagvad Gita AT ALL"
  2. In Hinduism, a person can believe in Allah and Muhammad and still be a Hindu and it was quoted on this very forum right here.
Meaning there is no such thing as a universal baseline or creed or standard unlike Islam where a person cannot say:

  1. I believe in 4 gods or goddess
  2. I do not believe in Qura'aan at all.
The difference in interpretation is on secondary issue and Muslim DO NOT outright deny a verse but say with evidence from primary sources that this verse actually means this or that while A Hindu can reject Gita and still be a Hindu!

In a meeting so it is crystal clear what is being said but you will keep on arguing.
 
You should stop quoting me. I don't read your posts anymore since all you do is spam every thread with clips and have no observations and experiences of your own. Do something productive with your life, bud
mr cry baby, the video is relative to this thread, its a tour of the 2nd most populated indian city here in the UK, as your not from the UK, you wouldnt know the facts - so stop your crying above - jus because i again used a neutral perspective to prove that your wrong
 
You want me to post videos here about Britains muslims towns and how people lives there? How many you want?
stop your cry baby - @BouncerGuy already told you to stay on topic - this thread is about Indian civic sense problems,

you can post the lying crap you want to post - i will counter it will legit articles proving that your wrong - you shuld already know this - i keep all articles saved in different folders- ready to add on here

cmon stop your crying, and also read my post 83, also you can reply to the bbc article i listed at post 80
 
stop your cry baby - @BouncerGuy already told you to stay on topic - this thread is about Indian civic sense problems,

you can post the lying crap you want to post - i will counter it will legit articles proving that your wrong - you shuld already know this - i keep all articles saved in different folders- ready to add on here

cmon stop your crying, and also read my post 83, also you can reply to the bbc article i listed at post 80
You already started crying and I havent posted it yet. Kya hero banega re tu? Chi..

I humby differ on @BouncerGuy 's view about staying on topic. If Pakistanis in a Pakistani forum open threads dissing India, then Indians have all the right to bring Pakistan into the discussion. That is not whataboutery but showing the mirror. Never heard of the phrase 'Never throw stone while living in glass house'?

The other day another dude opened s thread mocking Indias ranking in hunger index. A quick look and at the same index Pakistan rans even higher. When that was reminded to him, his comeback was 'We never claimed to be 4th largest economy' Bwahahaha

One thing Pakistanis like you must understand, there is absolutely no metrics from head to toe, from sports to economy, from films to food where Pakistan is better than India. Absolutely nothing.

You dont believe me..debate me and prove me wrong.

#NoHimmat?

:kp
 
Meaning there is no such thing as a universal baseline or creed or standard unlike Islam where a person cannot say:

And my point is that Islam doesn't have universal baseline standard regarding morality given that their verses are not set in stone and can be interpreted in hundreds of ways. In effect, interpreting a verse in hundreds of ways is not dissimiliar from Hindus having various sources of scriptures to derive their morality from.
 
You already started crying and I havent posted it yet. Kya hero banega re tu? Chi..

I humby differ on @BouncerGuy 's view about staying on topic. If Pakistanis in a Pakistani forum open threads dissing India, then Indians have all the right to bring Pakistan into the discussion. That is not whataboutery but showing the mirror. Never heard of the phrase 'Never throw stone while living in glass house'?

The other day another dude opened s thread mocking Indias ranking in hunger index. A quick look and at the same index Pakistan rans even higher. When that was reminded to him, his comeback was 'We never claimed to be 4th largest economy' Bwahahaha

One thing Pakistanis like you must understand, there is absolutely no metrics from head to toe, from sports to economy, from films to food where Pakistan is better than India. Absolutely nothing.

You dont believe me..debate me and prove me wrong.

#NoHimmat?

:kp

Why are you begging and crying :ROFLMAO:

2nd bolded part- its a commonn phrase here in the west


Also i've now listed around 10 videos, even from indian perspectives - they even agree that indians have a civic sense problem especially with littering



@Vikram1989 @Local.Dada @globetrotter @RexRex @Champ_Pal @Hitman @uppercut @cricketjoshila @Devadwal @deltexas - i hope you lot will not cry like raj,
 
@LordJames Btw, where do you think the Japanese get their moral code from ?

That is a country which is no.1 in civic sense and cleanliness but like the hindus, they have no gigantic central book of morals or universal baseline to learn all this from ? Japan destroys your silly theory, doesn't it ?

Maybe we must compare the cleanlines in Pakistan (which has a universal moral code) to the cleanliness in Japan....
 
mr cry baby, the video is relative to this thread, its a tour of the 2nd most populated indian city here in the UK, as your not from the UK, you wouldnt know the facts - so stop your crying above - jus because i again used a neutral perspective to prove that your wrong

You might not realise it but nobody reads any of your posts. Spammers are usually blocked by other posters so you're just wasting your time.
 
You might not realise it but nobody reads any of your posts. Spammers are usually blocked by other posters so you're just wasting your time.
so why did rajdeep respond to me ???, Plenty of indian posters reply tome and try to debate with me - just like these posters @Champ_Pal @uppercut @Theanonymousone @Devadwal @deltexas @Hitman @globetrotter.


the problem is with you, is that you still cant debate hence i've listed so many above videos, even from indians - stating that this is a problem with indians = but yet when i showed my evidence you started to cry and whaling - then you stated that you dont repy to me - but yet you have, not once but twice

your a walking talking contradiction who cries and does whaling sounds
 
Forget the streets and everything else, skipping deodorant is probably the biggest civic crime.

Are Indians Refusing to Wear Deodorant?​





yet the below indians will start to say im a troll, but yet im just listing relevant sources of info from neutrals and indians, im not showing biased source.



@Rajdeep @cricketjoshila @Champ_Pal @Devadwal @uppercut @straighttalk @Bhaijaan @Vikram1989 @Romali_rotti @Cover Drive Six @RexRex @rpant_gabba, @kron @globetrotter @Hitman @jnaveen1980 @Local.Dada @CrIc_Mystique @Van_Sri @nish_mate @SportsWarrior @kaayal @saimayubera @JaDed @Prince of Dorne @Cryin Out Loud @just a fan @deltexas @Ramsay @Hikaru @Bhimja turtle @GoogleToggle @big_gamer007 @IndoorCricket @Hellion @Theanonymousone @Mesozoic @cricket.mad @OldWarHorse @BreadPakoda
 
Majority of them have you blocked if I had to guess.

I do too, I just temporarily unblocked you to let you know. But hey if this gives you a sense of purpose lol, do carry on... over and out.
again like a clown, stop with your i think or i guess - they reply when they think they can counter me - then realise when i start to listed numerus of articles and videos - confirming that my opinion is deemed as more factual = they al run off - just look at @Champ_Pal in the islamophobia thread - when he lists videos and @Me i reply, when i list video's and just @him - he runs and last time he even wrote he wont reply because the videos i listed were on the previous page - so i then @ him with the videos again = he refused

@just like sanghis listed ive created - the below list isnt for replies, its cuz all of them have ran away multiple times when debating with me, hence i call it the sanghi list, hence poster @Bhaag Viru Bhaag is not listed on it:

@Rajdeep @cricketjoshila @Champ_Pal @Devadwal @uppercut @straighttalk @Bhaijaan @Vikram1989 @Romali_rotti @Cover Drive Six @RexRex @rpant_gabba, @kron @globetrotter @Hitman @jnaveen1980 @Local.Dada @CrIc_Mystique @Van_Sri @nish_mate @SportsWarrior @kaayal @saimayubera @JaDed @Prince of Dorne @Cryin Out Loud @just a fan @deltexas @Ramsay @Hikaru @Bhimja turtle @GoogleToggle @big_gamer007 @IndoorCricket @Hellion @Theanonymousone @Mesozoic @cricket.mad @OldWarHorse @BreadPakoda
 
Majority of them have you blocked if I had to guess.

I do too, I just temporarily unblocked you to let you know. But hey if this gives you a sense of purpose lol, do carry on... over and out.
nooo you dont temporarily block me- you juts dont reply when its liste dthat ive @ you - stop with the indian lies, its very obvious.... also stop going off topic, debate the topic,

ive listed many videos on the above - do you still believe that indians dont have civic sense - im got probabaly around 30 more videos to list to show you - all are from indian viewpoints
 
Which British Muslim towns would they be? In Britain most of them are just a generation or two from being called Indians anyway.
If they were to win a Gold Medal likes of Joshila and Rajdeep will be the first ones to do bhangra claiming Ind ancestry like they do with CEOs in the US. As soon as something negative comes out then they are no longer from Ind. Funny how that works.
 
Better than any city in Pakistan TBH.
Nice attempt to sidetrack the thread. Can you answer why your people throw garbage on the streets? Is this how a superpower behaves? Can you answer without deflecting or talking about Pakistan, Uganda, Mars? Your friend @Local.Dada justifies Ind mentality by saying it is because you don't have a dictatorship lol
 
Nice attempt to sidetrack the thread. Can you answer why your people throw garbage on the streets? Is this how a superpower behaves? Can you answer without deflecting or talking about Pakistan, Uganda, Mars? Your friend @Local.Dada justifies Ind mentality by saying it is because you don't have a dictatorship lol
That is not only my people though. Its mostly a sub continent problem, including Draft Nation Pakistan.

Solution to Karachi district Central’s garbage crisis nowhere in sight

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Worries pile up as waste grows in Pakistan​


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‘Dream destination’ Lahore littered with garbage​


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Now I know you will come back asking me to stick to the topic—that the thread is about India and that I should not engage in whataboutery, etc. However, the point remains the same: you must not throw stones while sitting in a glass house. If, as a Pakistani, you open a thread about the littering issue in India, the situation in Pakistan will be highlighted as well. That is not whataboutery, but rather holding up a mirror.

Here is a dose of reality for you—India has lots of flaws, agreed. However, there is not a single metric—from sports to films, from politics to education—where Pakistan is ahead of India. Not a single parameter...none what so ever. So if you open these kind of threads or hunger index which @emranabbas did...a mirror will always be shown.

Imagine this: I criticize the air conditions in Switzerland in front of a Swiss person while being an Indian. Would that not be laughable hypocrisy?

This thread and your constant whining are kind of similar—both here and in the cricket section, where you claimed Suryavanshi is 25 years old. That's why I said other day, initially your posts were funny but now you are humiliating yourself in open theatre.

#Rajdeep
 
That is not only my people though. Its mostly a sub continent problem, including Draft Nation Pakistan.

Solution to Karachi district Central’s garbage crisis nowhere in sight

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Worries pile up as waste grows in Pakistan​


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‘Dream destination’ Lahore littered with garbage​


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Now I know you will come back asking me to stick to the topic—that the thread is about India and that I should not engage in whataboutery, etc. However, the point remains the same: you must not throw stones while sitting in a glass house. If, as a Pakistani, you open a thread about the littering issue in India, the situation in Pakistan will be highlighted as well. That is not whataboutery, but rather holding up a mirror.

Here is a dose of reality for you—India has lots of flaws, agreed. However, there is not a single metric—from sports to films, from politics to education—where Pakistan is ahead of India. Not a single parameter...none what so ever. So if you open these kind of threads or hunger index which @emranabbas did...a mirror will always be shown.

Imagine this: I criticize the air conditions in Switzerland in front of a Swiss person while being an Indian. Would that not be laughable hypocrisy?

This thread and your constant whining are kind of similar—both here and in the cricket section, where you claimed Suryavanshi is 25 years old. That's why I said other day, initially your posts were funny but now you are humiliating yourself in open theatre.

#Rajdeep

rajdeep digging decade old pictures to prove a point kuch sharam karo :p

agreed Pakistan isn't ahead of India in some metrics but in most metrics is on par with india if not ahead despite indi being 5x bigger. have you ever tried comparing your self with countries your own size ie USA, Russia, China etc.. even tiny UK is way ahead of you in every metric. you can only pick on small countries when it comes to big boys your like a wet pee bag.

there are more people suffering from hunger in india than there are in pakistan if you want we can do a head count :afridi
 
That is not only my people though. Its mostly a sub continent problem, including Draft Nation Pakistan.

Solution to Karachi district Central’s garbage crisis nowhere in sight

View attachment 163632


Worries pile up as waste grows in Pakistan​


View attachment 163633


‘Dream destination’ Lahore littered with garbage​


View attachment 163634


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Now I know you will come back asking me to stick to the topic—that the thread is about India and that I should not engage in whataboutery, etc. However, the point remains the same: you must not throw stones while sitting in a glass house. If, as a Pakistani, you open a thread about the littering issue in India, the situation in Pakistan will be highlighted as well. That is not whataboutery, but rather holding up a mirror.

Here is a dose of reality for you—India has lots of flaws, agreed. However, there is not a single metric—from sports to films, from politics to education—where Pakistan is ahead of India. Not a single parameter...none what so ever. So if you open these kind of threads or hunger index which @emranabbas did...a mirror will always be shown.

Imagine this: I criticize the air conditions in Switzerland in front of a Swiss person while being an Indian. Would that not be laughable hypocrisy?

This thread and your constant whining are kind of similar—both here and in the cricket section, where you claimed Suryavanshi is 25 years old. That's why I said other day, initially your posts were funny but now you are humiliating yourself in open theatre.

#Rajdeep
Again why are you deflecting? Why don't you talk about India? Air Conditions in Switzerland are not criticism worthy. To compare it to the garbage in India is ridiculous. If you are implying that the difference between Switzerland and India is the difference between India and Pakistan then you are an even bigger one than I thought.
 
rajdeep digging decade old pictures to prove a point kuch sharam karo :p

agreed Pakistan isn't ahead of India in some metrics but in most metrics is on par with india if not ahead despite indi being 5x bigger. have you ever tried comparing your self with countries your own size ie USA, Russia, China etc.. even tiny UK is way ahead of you in every metric. you can only pick on small countries when it comes to big boys your like a wet pee bag.

there are more people suffering from hunger in india than there are in pakistan if you want we can do a head count :afridi
Best comparable for them is China in terms of size and population and we see the difference. Enough said!
 
Best comparable for them is China in terms of size and population and we see the difference. Enough said!

they don't have that much aukat they are on par with Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal and Sri lanka the reason why these countries are a benchmark for them and the reason why india keep comparing them selves with these countries

when it comes to countries the same size and same resources as India they are then like wet wipes.
 
agreed Pakistan isn't ahead of India in some metrics but in most metrics is on par with india if not ahead despite indi being 5x bigger.

Nah. There is not a single metrics Pakistan is equal or higher than India. Actually Pakistan was doing better than India for first 40 years after independence but its a downfall since then. Now the gap is huge without any hope in sight.

Also 5x size means nothing. A small Island like UK colonized the enitre world once upon a time. So dont give this size non-sense.

If anything size and population is a disadvantage for India as it is easy to manage and sustain smaller nations.

have you ever tried comparing your self with countries your own size ie USA, Russia, China etc.. even tiny UK is way ahead of you in every metric. you can only pick on small countries when it comes to big boys your like a wet pee bag.

Yes we all know that. Not sure why you are raising this point though. You are not Amreekan, Chinese, Russian or English....you are Pakistani. They maybe your masters but you are a Pakistani at the end of the day who is surviving in IMF loans. So when you or @RizwanT20Champ opens a thread mocking India, a parallel will be drawn with Pakistan. Bringing other countries makes no sense.

There are more people suffering from hunger in india than there are in pakistan if you want we can do a head count
If that is the case why is Pakistan rank higher in hunger index? Education from which school in Bradford? :eek:
 
Best comparable for them is China in terms of size and population and we see the difference. Enough said!
Why hiding behind China? A Chinese didn't open this thread na? Being a Pakistani, why you don't want to compare with Pakistan? Scared that dirty laundry will be exposed?


:kp
 
That is not only my people though. Its mostly a sub continent problem, including Draft Nation Pakistan.

Solution to Karachi district Central’s garbage crisis nowhere in sight

View attachment 163632


Worries pile up as waste grows in Pakistan​


View attachment 163633


‘Dream destination’ Lahore littered with garbage​


View attachment 163634


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Now I know you will come back asking me to stick to the topic—that the thread is about India and that I should not engage in whataboutery, etc. However, the point remains the same: you must not throw stones while sitting in a glass house. If, as a Pakistani, you open a thread about the littering issue in India, the situation in Pakistan will be highlighted as well. That is not whataboutery, but rather holding up a mirror.

Here is a dose of reality for you—India has lots of flaws, agreed. However, there is not a single metric—from sports to films, from politics to education—where Pakistan is ahead of India. Not a single parameter...none what so ever. So if you open these kind of threads or hunger index which @emranabbas did...a mirror will always be shown.

Imagine this: I criticize the air conditions in Switzerland in front of a Swiss person while being an Indian. Would that not be laughable hypocrisy?

This thread and your constant whining are kind of similar—both here and in the cricket section, where you claimed Suryavanshi is 25 years old. That's why I said other day, initially your posts were funny but now you are humiliating yourself in open theatre.

#Rajdeep


Just goes to show, you can take Pakistan out of India, but you can't take the India out of Pakistan.

There's even some holy cows on show in that picture.
 
Yes...an Indian opened this thread.

:salute


Pakistanis do still hold onto some of the old habits from India, like caste discrimination, poor traffic management and general lack of respect for environment. But this is the thing, even back in 1960 when Pakistan was a bit more prosperous they had the foresight to build one of the cleanest and most well managed cities in the subcontinent, in Islamabad.

Now in 2026 over half a century later and world econonomic superpower India still has trash on every street and the public pooping and littering openly.
 
That is not only my people though. Its mostly a sub continent problem, including Draft Nation Pakistan.

Solution to Karachi district Central’s garbage crisis nowhere in sight

View attachment 163632


Worries pile up as waste grows in Pakistan​


View attachment 163633


‘Dream destination’ Lahore littered with garbage​


View attachment 163634


---

Now I know you will come back asking me to stick to the topic—that the thread is about India and that I should not engage in whataboutery, etc. However, the point remains the same: you must not throw stones while sitting in a glass house. If, as a Pakistani, you open a thread about the littering issue in India, the situation in Pakistan will be highlighted as well. That is not whataboutery, but rather holding up a mirror.

Here is a dose of reality for you—India has lots of flaws, agreed. However, there is not a single metric—from sports to films, from politics to education—where Pakistan is ahead of India. Not a single parameter...none what so ever. So if you open these kind of threads or hunger index which @emranabbas did...a mirror will always be shown.

Imagine this: I criticize the air conditions in Switzerland in front of a Swiss person while being an Indian. Would that not be laughable hypocrisy?

This thread and your constant whining are kind of similar—both here and in the cricket section, where you claimed Suryavanshi is 25 years old. That's why I said other day, initially your posts were funny but now you are humiliating yourself in open theatre.

#Rajdeep

@Rajdeep @Vikram1989 you 2 🤡 🤡 🤡

dawn article is from 2022

Al Jazeera is from 2014

Gulf news is from 2021


why dont you show anything recent
 
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