Congratulations to Pakistan, finally The rule of law has won

[Clueless]

In a history filled with severe miscarriage of laws and violations of Constitution multiple times. Its a rare sight to see rule of law winning back so swiftly in Pakistan. Really commendable work by the judiciary. Such a move was expected by legal experts world over.

Army has remarkably remained stoically quiet and an observer, General Bajwa has displayed true political acumen here.

 

[Major]

Meanwhile PTI fans are not happy, and want to boycott the country because they are against rule of law..


But I am glad that supreme court stood its ground, all 5 judges. The courts are in proper order for now. Great CJ we have currently.

I am still not able to comprehend that what was Imran thinking? How did he expect that he would make this move or get away? it was the dumbest move possible, and he also consulted the AGP aswell.

What was the end goal here? To take a dumb gamble and than just hope that out of 5 judges, atleast 3 would support him?

Or does Imran Khan not know that a constitution exists.

Funny how Imran khan came with the statement that the opposition doesnt know what happened to them. Bhai, you yourself dont know what your are doing and what is happening to you

 

[Clueless]

Meanwhile PTI fans are not happy, and want to boycott the country because they are against rule of law..


But I am glad that supreme court stood its ground, all 5 judges. The courts are in proper order for now. Great CJ we have currently.

I am still not able to comprehend that what was Imran thinking? How did he expect that he would make this move or get away? it was the dumbest move possible, and he also consulted the AGP aswell.

What was the end goal here? To take a dumb gamble and than just hope that out of 5 judges, atleast 3 would support him?

Or does Imran Khan not know that a constitution exists.

Funny how Imran khan came with the statement that the opposition doesnt know what happened to them. Bhai, you yourself dont know what your are doing and what is happening to you

We are ideologically opposed, but its nice to see we agree on "the rule of law"
It was a stupid self goal by Imran Khan, i believe he has weakened himself and would come with lower numbers in the next elections whenever they happen.

 

[Major]

We are ideologically opposed, but its nice to see we agree on "the rule of law"
It was a stupid self goal by Imran Khan, i believe he has weakened himself and would come with lower numbers in the next elections whenever they happen.

i have no issue voting for Imran Khan. But the issue I have is against PTI and its fans.

The fans do bhangra on each and everything Imran does not knowing the full implications of it.

Just like how he violated the rule of law, he has done many such things with the country.

The fans will do bhangra on Ehsas or sehat card and they will share stats of how many people are using it. Offcourse the usage numbers would be high, but usage number doesnt show success. Success is based upon the sustainability of that project.
These programs are being run on loans. Loans that people like Imran take, and to repay them high tariffs are charged.

A very simple example, people cant afford cards in Pakistan. Why? Because while the actual price of a new card is 3-4 Lakh, but tariffs have made those cars 20 lakh+. Why? Because those tariffs are used to pay back the crazy loans that have been bought on projects that cant run on theemselves.

The corruption of PTI members have came forward.

This VONC is happening because PTI was not ready to do discussion in parliament. They kept on using presidential ordinance, they never held discussion with leader of oppositition. That is not how parliamentary form of govt works. You have to work with the opposition.

When Jehnagir tareen was in pti, the fans supported him and placed pardah on his corruption, when he moved, same pti fans are saying oh lookk ppp took in a corrupt person. These guys elected a corrupt person.

These guys voted Aamir Liaqut in. And in future, Mohammad Hafeez might also get voted in from Sargodah, even though he doesnt do public work.

I might vote for Imran in the next election, but he needs to get a proper team and act democratically. Not rely on the army to help him out in every problem. The army left him for one month and look at the situation right now.

 

[basitmian]

Before you two celebrate, wait until Saturday at least. Who knows the horses might run in different directions

Also, the same rule of law will allow NS to return to Pakistan, remove all the cases and allow him to run for the 4th time as PM of Pakistan.

 

[Major]

Before you two celebrate, wait until Saturday at least. Who knows the horses might run in different directions

Also, the same rule of law will allow NS to return to Pakistan, remove all the cases and allow him to run for the 4th time as PM of Pakistan.

Imran Khan himself allowed Nawaz to go in the first place.

Also, there isnt any issue in 4th time as Pm of Pakistan because he hasnt been ever allowed to complete his term. If you are suggesting that we should have a 2 term pmship, than for that you need to allow the pm to complete its term.

But it is quite an ironic issue, because many of our pti fans who bash the number of times a person could be made pm they also support Putin aswell. sooo....

 

[basitmian]

Imran Khan himself allowed Nawaz to go in the first place.

Also, there isnt any issue in 4th time as Pm of Pakistan because he hasnt been ever allowed to complete his term. If you are suggesting that we should have a 2 term pmship, than for that you need to allow the pm to complete its term.

But it is quite an ironic issue, because many of our pti fans who bash the number of times a person could be made pm they also support Putin aswell. sooo....

Of course, NS was not "Allowed" to. Wonder who did not allow him?

You have me confused as a PTI supporter. I am not.

I am just against corrupt people, the 10% commission politicians, the "leaders" who run to UK mommy, the parties who allow their sons/daughters to inherit Pakistan and its provinces as their jageer, the kapain tang people, .....

 

[RajBan]

Before you two celebrate, wait until Saturday at least. Who knows the horses might run in different directions

Also, the same rule of law will allow NS to return to Pakistan, remove all the cases and allow him to run for the 4th time as PM of Pakistan.

PTI is in a catch 22 scenario. All factors considered they are better losing the NCV rather than winning it. They have mismanaged economy and murdered foreign policy. Being in power will be worse than hell for them.

 

[basitmian]

PTI is in a catch 22 scenario. All factors considered they are better losing the NCV rather than winning it. They have mismanaged economy and murdered foreign policy. Being in power will be worse than hell for them.

Agreed. They should not be in power right now.
The only course of action for them is elections.

 

[MenInG]

Opposition lawmakers, journalists, academicians and members of civil society rejoiced while government officials showed their disappointment after the Supreme Court on Thursday set aside the deputy speaker's ruling to dismiss the no-trust resolution against Prime Minister Imran Khan and the subsequent dissolution of the NA.

The court, in its short order, ruled that the deputy speaker's ruling was "contrary to the Constitution and the law and of no legal effect, and the same are hereby set aside".

PPP Chairman Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari shared a short message celebrating the news. "Democracy is the best revenge!" he said.

PML-N President Shehbaz Sharif termed the day's events as "epoch-making".

He said the "politics of lies, deceit and allegations has been buried" and the nation had won.

Reception from the government ranks was not quite as accepting, with Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry saying the "unfortunate decision" would exacerbate the political crisis in the country.

"Immediate elections could have brought stability to the country. Unfortunately, the importance of the people has been overlooked," he tweeted.

PML-N Vice President Maryam Nawaz also congratulated the nation on the "supremacy of the Constitution" and said Shehbaz would become the next prime minister.

"Supreme Court has won hearts and minds! It has not only buried doctrine of necessity but also Imran Khan’s toxic narrative of 'ghaddari' (treachery)," said PPP Senator Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar.

PTI Senator Faisal Javed said the prime minister would continue to "fight for his nation" and told the public to not panic, saying the premier would soon announce his next strategy.

Jamaat-i-Islami chief Sirajul Haq said the apex court had "buried" the doctrine of necessity and the whole nation welcomed the decision.

Special Assistant to the Prime Minister for Political Communication Dr Shahbaz Gill claimed the country had returned to the same situation as 1947.

Minister of State for Information and Broadcasting Farrukh Habib claimed that the opposition had lost while the prime minister's stance had won.

From among the journalistic community, industry veteran Hamid Mir said the Constitution had survived an "assassination attempt" and congratulated the country.

Abbas Nasir, former editor for Dawn, said the apex court had "redeemed" itself.

Anchorperson Mansoor Ali Khan claimed the ruling had "convincingly punched holes" in the prime minister's narrative of a foreign conspiracy against him.

From members of civil society, Lahore-based academic and activist Ammar Ali Jan said: "Sordid legacy of Doctrine of Necessity buried. We have moved beyond the ghosts of 1954. Long live our republic!"

"Pakistan's Supreme Court has washed away the sins of its past. [...] Important day for Pakistan's flawed and floundering democracy," added Uzair Younus, director of the Pakistan Initiative at Atlantic Council's South Asia Centre.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1683883/d...ion-journalists-rejoice-supreme-court-verdict

 

[pakistanisgreat]

it does not matter to me the outcome of saturday.

I am happy the rule of law won, the constitution of Pakistan won.

 

[Reddy]

Congratulations Pakistan, commiserations to Americans and British fans of Imran.

 

[Mamoon]

The greatest day in Pakistan’s history. These judges will be remembered as national heroes.

 

[MenInG]

The greatest day in Pakistan’s history. These judges will be remembered as national heroes.

There next heroic work would be to prosecute likes of Nawaz and his progeny.

 

[Itachi]

"constitution survived an assassination attempt."

Correctly put. It shouldn't matter to whom party your loyalty is to but loyalty to country and the constitution should supersede anything.

 

[IAJ]

Meanwhile PTI fans are not happy, and want to boycott the country because they are against rule of law..


But I am glad that supreme court stood its ground, all 5 judges. The courts are in proper order for now. Great CJ we have currently.

I am still not able to comprehend that what was Imran thinking? How did he expect that he would make this move or get away? it was the dumbest move possible, and he also consulted the AGP aswell.

What was the end goal here? To take a dumb gamble and than just hope that out of 5 judges, atleast 3 would support him?

Or does Imran Khan not know that a constitution exists.

Funny how Imran khan came with the statement that the opposition doesnt know what happened to them. Bhai, you yourself dont know what your are doing and what is happening to you

Why didn't Gilani write the letter when there was a ruling from CJ?

 

[daytrader]

The greatest day in Pakistan’s history. These judges will be remembered as national heroes.

Time will tell. We just had a judicial martial law imposed and you're making them heroes. Right now they're being seen as nothing but Sharif cronies

 

[Itachi]

Time will tell. We just had a judicial martial law imposed and you're making them heroes. Right now they're being seen as nothing but Sharif cronies

I've heard many youtubers saying judicial martial law....

Let me get this right.

If supreme court gives verdict based upon the constitution which goes against your party, then it's judicial martial law....

Wouldn't it be better to scrap the constitution itself since it is the reason why supreme court is "supreme"?

 

[daytrader]

I've heard many youtubers saying judicial martial law....

Let me get this right.

If supreme court gives verdict based upon the constitution which goes against your party, then it's judicial martial law....

Wouldn't it be better to scrap the constitution itself since it is the reason why supreme court is "supreme"?

That's the thing, if they gave the verdict just by objectively looking at the constitution, it would've been a different result as the constitution doesn't give SC powers to over rule Parliament. It is the 'Supreme' court because it is the highest court in the country, not because it has more power than Parliament.

It's a judicial martial law because of the following reasons:
1. Court took suo moto action on a Sunday when it is closed
2. It didn't take action on any other issues such as horse trading or voting against party guidelines - which also go against the constitution
3. They invited Shahbaz Sharif, who is not even the leader of the opposition to the roster and didn't hear any other political party leaders including the government- PM or President
4. They didn't look at the 'letter' because they don't want to get involved in foreign policy affairs yet the speakers decision was based on Article 5, which the SC didn't even discuss
5. The last day, they already had riot police around the premises because they knew what decision they were going to give beforehand
6. CJ has known links to the Shariffs since his time at Lahore High Court

There's many more inconsistencies which can be pointed out, however PTI is not complaining due to Imran Khan saying we will accept whatever decision. Whereas on the other hand the opposition huffed and cried that they will resign if they don't get a favorable decision. They even had a letter sent to the court signed by over a 100 'prominent' academics requesting to over turn the speakers ruling.

Above are just examples of outside influence that were made public. Behind the scenes, it was the Mistablishment that was influencing the decision. I really wish Pakistani courts were independent but sadly that's not the case

 

[uberkoen]

That's the thing, if they gave the verdict just by objectively looking at the constitution, it would've been a different result as the constitution doesn't give SC powers to over rule Parliament. It is the 'Supreme' court because it is the highest court in the country, not because it has more power than Parliament.

It's a judicial martial law because of the following reasons:
1. Court took suo moto action on a Sunday when it is closed
2. It didn't take action on any other issues such as horse trading or voting against party guidelines - which also go against the constitution
3. They invited Shahbaz Sharif, who is not even the leader of the opposition to the roster and didn't hear any other political party leaders including the government- PM or President
4. They didn't look at the 'letter' because they don't want to get involved in foreign policy affairs yet the speakers decision was based on Article 5, which the SC didn't even discuss
5. The last day, they already had riot police around the premises because they knew what decision they were going to give beforehand
6. CJ has known links to the Shariffs since his time at Lahore High Court

There's many more inconsistencies which can be pointed out, however PTI is not complaining due to Imran Khan saying we will accept whatever decision. Whereas on the other hand the opposition huffed and cried that they will resign if they don't get a favorable decision. They even had a letter sent to the court signed by over a 100 'prominent' academics requesting to over turn the speakers ruling.

Above are just examples of outside influence that were made public. Behind the scenes, it was the Mistablishment that was influencing the decision. I really wish Pakistani courts were independent but sadly that's not the case

have you read the judgement? Are you a lawyer?

You've neither read the judgement in its details nor are you a lawyer yet you seem to know more about the law then 5 judges of the supreme court who gave a unanimous decision.

Grow up please.

 

[pakistanisgreat]

have you read the judgement? Are you a lawyer?

You've neither read the judgement in its details nor are you a lawyer yet you seem to know more about the law then 5 judges of the supreme court who gave a unanimous decision.

Grow up please.

According to them if decision comes in favor of PTI then its a great decision like in 2018. When it is against them then judges are bad. Typical talking of the Nation of Youth.

 

[Stewie]

In a history filled with severe miscarriage of laws and violations of Constitution multiple times. Its a rare sight to see rule of law winning back so swiftly in Pakistan. Really commendable work by the judiciary. Such a move was expected by legal experts world over.

Army has remarkably remained stoically quiet and an observer, General Bajwa has displayed true political acumen here.

This is NOT the first time this has happened. The courts have come in and made rulings over the ruling party or government several times, from Justice Naseem Hasan Shah during Bhutto and GIK era and now this.

Lets not make it sound like Pakistani courts have never followed the rules of Judiciary.

 

[MenInG]

I see so a person who is in middle of court cases against him - on bail I believe - Shehbaz Sharif will be appointed PM.

Good going.

 

[daytrader]

have you read the judgement? Are you a lawyer?

You've neither read the judgement in its details nor are you a lawyer yet you seem to know more about the law then 5 judges of the supreme court who gave a unanimous decision.

Grow up please.

Buddy I have read the short judgement that was released and yes I do have a background in law. You know what they say about assumptions....
I gave you the background of the CJ, what you wanna believe is upto you. You don't have to take my word for it, go read up on the events that took place. Everything was under media scrutiny so it's on record.

Better yet, why don't you get a group of 5 legal experts you know, show them this as a case law, give them a copy of the Pakistani constitution and see if they agree 5-0.

 

[saeedhk]

I see so a person who is in middle of court cases against him - on bail I believe - Shehbaz Sharif will be appointed PM.

Good going.

Democracy is the best revenge! Serves Imran Khan right because he did not pursue corruption cases against these goons wholeheartedly. Now, he is paying the price! IK was too lenient Shahbaz and co.

It is awful to see a corrupt man will become the leader of 225 million people!

 

[MenInG]

Democracy is the best revenge! Serves Imran Khan right because he did not pursue corruption cases against these goons wholeheartedly. Now, he is paying the price! IK was too lenient Shahbaz and co.

It is awful to see a corrupt man will become the leader of 225 million people!

Was it his job to pursue the cases? The same 5-0 people who are being praised as God's gift to mankind were asleep it seems.

 

[Major]

I see so a person who is in middle of court cases against him - on bail I believe - Shehbaz Sharif will be appointed PM.

Good going.

Really poor stuff from the opposition leader imran khan i guess. As an opposition leader his first task could be arguing on this tomr

 

[daytrader]

Really poor stuff from the opposition leader imran khan i guess. As an opposition leader his first task could be arguing on this tomr

Hosla rakho, he's still the PM. Whether SS gets to wear his sherwani or not is still to be seen

 

[MenInG]

Really poor stuff from the opposition leader imran khan i guess. As an opposition leader his first task could be arguing on this tomr

And you are fine with that?

 

[Major]

Hosla rakho, he's still the PM. Whether SS gets to wear his sherwani or not is still to be seen

Congratulations on becoming 2 din ka pm.

I am hoping against hope that he tries to do something stupid this time. Plz plz do so imran khan..

Contempt of court will result in him going to jail

This is why supreme court said session will be held on saturday and connot be extended or delayed any further..

 

[Major]

And you are fine with that?

Fine with what?
If i am not mistaken, shebaz sharef case is in high court not supreme court. The 5-0 verdoct came from supreme court.

I have issues with the foreign funding case not being used to charge the 2 din ka pm....

Anyways, if this was a constitutional issue where a person on bail cannot be pm, than imran khan could had proposed amendment and held discussions on it

 

[topspin]

We are ideologically opposed, but its nice to see we agree on "the rule of law"
It was a stupid self goal by Imran Khan, i believe he has weakened himself and would come with lower numbers in the next elections whenever they happen.

The greatest day in Pakistan’s history. These judges will be remembered as national heroes.

Agreed.

It's a shame to see that most PTI fans can't accept this because their obsession for IK exceeds the importance of following the rule of law.

I commend the judges for doing obeying and applying the law.

 

[MenInG]

Fine with what?
If i am not mistaken, shebaz sharef case is in high court not supreme court. The 5-0 verdoct came from supreme court.

I have issues with the foreign funding case not being used to charge the 2 din ka pm....

Anyways, if this was a constitutional issue where a person on bail cannot be pm, than imran khan could had proposed amendment and held discussions on it

Think you are missing the point.

I am asking you, as a person of high principles, if you feel that a person who is involved in multiple court cases is being allowed to become a PM.

This is the same justice system that you are praising.

Think about it.

 

[daytrader]

Think you are missing the point.

I am asking you, as a person of high principles, if you feel that a person who is involved in multiple court cases is being allowed to become a PM.

This is the same justice system that you are praising.

Think about it.

He wants to throw IK in jail for contempt of court but is willing to support criminals and absconders - definitely a person of high principles

 

[pakistanisgreat]

[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]

just heard news that government members will be doing long speeches tomorrow. So the oppostion may not be able to vote. I know it is against the court order. do you think another blunder is on the way?

 

[Major]

Think you are missing the point.

I am asking you, as a person of high principles, if you feel that a person who is involved in multiple court cases is being allowed to become a PM.

This is the same justice system that you are praising.

Think about it.

1. It depends upon the corruption case. Whether those are actual cases or just govt backed agencies making others political victims.

This is what aleem khan said that whenever cm punjab issue came he would be getting notification by nab even though there wasnt a corruption case against him.

2. If an mna is proven corrupt, than it depends upon the constitution what it says.

3. I think shebaz case is on going

 

[Kianig89]

Judiciary has no business messing up the parliament, as they say parliament is supreme so what happened now also an assembly with horse traders does it will have any worth

 

[Major]

[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]

just heard news that government members will be doing long speeches tomorrow. So the oppostion may not be able to vote. I know it is against the court order. do you think another blunder is on the way?

I actually want them to commit blunders now and not give opposition the chair tha easy. This way he digs a hole for himself and hopefully goes to jail for contempt of court...

Its either this, or the president calling in sick.

 

[Major]

Judiciary has no business messing up the parliament, as they say parliament is supreme so what happened now also an assembly with horse traders does it will have any worth

Judiciary interprets laws.

NCM when submitted you have to do voting.. you cannot call it off. Deputy speaker called it off.

Deputy spekaers powers arennot unlimitted.

Besides, this was not 1 judge deciding. This 5 judges who decided upon this.

The agp who went their to defend the case said that he cant make an argument against the constitutional violation

 

[pakistanisgreat]

Judiciary has no business messing up the parliament, as they say parliament is supreme so what happened now also an assembly with horse traders does it will have any worth

Let's say supreme court does not interfere then what would happened when next government comes and they would do the same thing. Someone has to stop them.

 

[daytrader]

1. It depends upon the corruption case. Whether those are actual cases or just govt backed agencies making others political victims.

This is what aleem khan said that whenever cm punjab issue came he would be getting notification by nab even though there wasnt a corruption case against him.

2. If an mna is proven corrupt, than it depends upon the constitution what it says.

3. I think shebaz case is on going

Bro I'm really starting to think you're on their payroll or you're just not reading the news. You know very well Aleem Khan was given a NAB notice before PTI came into power due to corruption in his housing society projects.

 

[Major]

Bro I'm really starting to think you're on their payroll or you're just not reading the news. You know very well Aleem Khan was given a NAB notice before PTI came into power due to corruption in his housing society projects.

@mods honestly I wish PP was mobile friendly so I can upload such documents to show these liars as it's too much work to go and upload them on a computer

So pti took in a knowing corrupt? Wow

 

[daytrader]

So pti took in a knowing corrupt? Wow

Every Saint has a past, every sinner a future. He gave people a chance to change. IK is a forgiving guy, hence why your supreme leader is sitting in the UK.

No mercy though this time

 

[Major]

Every Saint has a past, every sinner a future. He gave people a chance to change. IK is a forgiving guy, hence why your supreme leader is sitting in the UK.

No mercy though this time

Wait what? How can imran khan forgive corruption? That is the court to decide.

 

[daytrader]

Wait what? How can imran khan forgive corruption? That is the court to decide.

So take him to court then. Aleem is your problem now

 

[IMMY69]

The CJ who opened the court on Sunday night, what's his connection to the PMLN?

Anyone?

 

[Pakpak]

The CJ who opened the court on Sunday night, what's his connection to the PMLN?

Anyone?

Daughter married to the son of PMLN's president if I am not mistaken.

 

[IMMY69]

Daughter married to the son of PMLN's president if I am not mistaken.

So there you have it.

The only thing that has won is corruption.

Think this thread should be thrown in the bin

 

[Kianig89]

If SC was so concerned then first they should have looked into the murky business of horse trading and all fishy stuff, clear agenda also with that 5-0 verdict they were hell bent hopefully PTi will resist tomorrow and let these black sheep's of country get exposed infront of all

 

[Kianig89]

Daughter married to the son of PMLN's president if I am not mistaken.

So there you have it.

The only thing that has won is corruption.

Think this thread should be thrown in the bin

Shaista Malik MNA from lahore her daughter in law is CJs daughter case closed

 

[Kianig89]

Daughter married to the son of PMLN's president if I am not mistaken.

So there you have it.

The only thing that has won is corruption.

Think this thread should be thrown in the bin

Let's say supreme court does not interfere then what would happened when next government comes and they would do the same thing. Someone has to stop them.

Why not deal with horse trading first

 

[SpiritOf1903]

It was always too good to be true. I thought the devil is locked up this month

 

[MenInG]

Daughter married to the son of PMLN's president if I am not mistaken.

Incredible.

 

[SM1989]

Why not deal with horse trading first

Because horse trading is not illegal. Stop whining. Let this be a lesson to your beloved leader to not compromise on principles and not ally with saleable horses in the future

 

[daytrader]

Because horse trading is not illegal. Stop whining. Let this be a lesson to your beloved leader to not compromise on principles and not ally with saleable horses in the future

What? LOL horse trading is not illegal where do you people come from

 

[IMMY69]

Because horse trading is not illegal. Stop whining. Let this be a lesson to your beloved leader to not compromise on principles and not ally with saleable horses in the future

Oh boy.

 

[Manunited18]

Because horse trading is not illegal. Stop whining. Let this be a lesson to your beloved leader to not compromise on principles and not ally with saleable horses in the future

Good God.

 

[Kriketer]

Look at all the fans of corrupt leeches of Pakistan. They are all out celebrating in this thread lol and cheering for making absolute corrupt mafia, party baap ke jageer members as heroes... waah. You lot really are a sad case and why countries like Pakistan don't move forward. Educated jahils is the best way to describe your type, equal curse on this nation but worry not there are many others who won't let this happen. Bring on the next election, all these corrupt chochas will be running away to London once again when Imran Khan ll win the election with majority. Have a very strong feeling once IK wins again with majority, he won't spare these corrupt chochas and ll make sure they rot in bars for eternity

 

[bones]

The most important thing in Pakistan is the constitution, let's totally ignore the fact that the opposition are criminals and frauds. Yep let's ensure the consitution is adhered to even if it means criminals run our country.

 

[Itachi]

Look at all the fans of corrupt leeches of Pakistan. They are all out celebrating in this thread lol and cheering for making absolute corrupt mafia, party baap ke jageer members as heroes... waah. You lot really are a sad case and why countries like Pakistan don't move forward. Educated jahils is the best way to describe your type, equal curse on this nation but worry not there are many others who won't let this happen. Bring on the next election, all these corrupt chochas will be running away to London once again when Imran Khan ll win the election with majority. Have a very strong feeling once IK wins again with majority, he won't spare these corrupt chochas and ll make sure they rot in bars for eternity

MenInG has clearly stated that no personal remarks are tolerated. You are using way degratory words.

 

[Itachi]

The most important thing in Pakistan is the constitution, let's totally ignore the fact that the opposition are criminals and frauds. Yep let's ensure the consitution is adhered to even if it means criminals run our country.

If criminals are running while adhering to the constitution, it simply means the constitution has too many loopholes which till now no govt has addressed and amended. Fault lies in PTI too.

 

[Mamoon]

Look at all the fans of corrupt leeches of Pakistan. They are all out celebrating in this thread lol and cheering for making absolute corrupt mafia, party baap ke jageer members as heroes... waah. You lot really are a sad case and why countries like Pakistan don't move forward. Educated jahils is the best way to describe your type, equal curse on this nation but worry not there are many others who won't let this happen. Bring on the next election, all these corrupt chochas will be running away to London once again when Imran Khan ll win the election with majority. Have a very strong feeling once IK wins again with majority, he won't spare these corrupt chochas and ll make sure they rot in bars for eternity

This “very strong feeling” is a mental health disorder called delusions of grandeur, a disorder found among all PTI supporters including their supreme leader.

 

[KingKhanWC]

This “very strong feeling” is a mental health disorder called delusions of grandeur, a disorder found among all PTI supporters including their supreme leader.

Begging India to bombing Pakistani school children is not a sign of Mental health disorder ? The PDM leaders are all mentally challenged just like their treacherous supporters. Get it right

 

[daytrader]

Look at all the fans of corrupt leeches of Pakistan. They are all out celebrating in this thread lol and cheering for making absolute corrupt mafia, party baap ke jageer members as heroes... waah. You lot really are a sad case and why countries like Pakistan don't move forward. Educated jahils is the best way to describe your type, equal curse on this nation but worry not there are many others who won't let this happen. Bring on the next election, all these corrupt chochas will be running away to London once again when Imran Khan ll win the election with majority. Have a very strong feeling once IK wins again with majority, he won't spare these corrupt chochas and ll make sure they rot in bars for eternity

But bro some of them are really high IQ folks, 150+ certified in Peshawar

 

[Kriketer]

This “very strong feeling” is a mental health disorder called delusions of grandeur, a disorder found among all PTI supporters including their supreme leader.

When all the corrupt of the country have to unite to take one man down, one would know where all the delusions lie. Not sure if you recall your supreme leaders run away to London in a heart beat.

And speaking of disorders, if you still have to support corrupt mafia after all what they have done to the country and people of Pakistan, where the disorder lies is again a given.

 

[Mamoon]

When all the corrupt of the country have to unite to take one man down, one would know where all the delusions lie. Not sure if you recall your supreme leaders run away to London in a heart beat.

And speaking of disorders, if you still have to support corrupt mafia after all what they have done to the country and people of Pakistan, where the disorder lies is again a given.

Imran Khan is the biggest beneficiary of corruption. He is a freeloader who has been living off the black money of his corrupt mafia friends who financed his election campaign and have sponsored him for decades.

Do you think Imran did not know that Jahangir Tareen was corrupt when he using him as a sponsor?

Imran is a conman. He doesn’t care about corruption as long as it benefits him. He welcomed corrupt politicians in his party because they win votes. He has no morals and no integrity.

The humiliation that he is facing is fully deserved. It is game over for him, he has lost.

 

[Kriketer]

Begging India to bombing Pakistani school children is not a sign of Mental health disorder ? The PDM leaders are all mentally challenged just like their treacherous supporters. Get it right

Indeed I still recall that post from Mamon, that was the lowest of the lowest post on this forum. Don't mean to directly attack anyone but one really has to be very unstable sanity wise to post such a terrible thing. Also says why such people support the corrupt mafia.

 

[Kriketer]

Imran Khan is the biggest beneficiary of corruption. He is a freeloader who has been living off the black money of his corrupt mafia friends who financed his election campaign and have sponsored him for decades.

Do you think Imran did not know that Jahangir Tareen was corrupt when he using him as a sponsor?

Imran is a conman. He doesn’t care about corruption as long as it benefits him. He welcomed corrupt politicians in his party because they win votes. He has no morals and no integrity.

The humiliation that he is facing is fully deserved. It is game over for him, he has lost.

You have been saying game over for a very long time. After game over the parties you support still had to unite to take him down, so where the game is running out of lifelines and coins is a given.

Pakistani politics is a cestpool of corruption and in order to clean it up one will end up having such members in his own party. Other than IK, I don't trust anyone else in PTI but thats how politics is played. Cleaning job is not done overnight and neither he's there to fix it all in such a short time, he neither can and anyone with a bit of common sense ll understand that. It takes generations to come out of where Pakistan stands after all its mafia rule and loot-mari of many decades. IK is the only right choice to direct Pakistan on the right path, whether you like it or not. He's not immortal and neither he can fix it all but he is definitely million miles better than the corrupt to core, many times tried n tested failures you support.

 

[Mamoon]

You have been saying game over for a very long time. After game over the parties you support still had to unite to take him down, so where the game is running out of lifelines and coins is a given.

Pakistani politics is a cestpool of corruption and in order to clean it up one will end up having such members in his own party. Other than IK, I don't trust anyone else in PTI but thats how politics is played. Cleaning job is not done overnight and neither he's there to fix it all in such a short time, he neither can and anyone with a bit of common sense ll understand that. It takes generations to come out of where Pakistan stands after all its mafia rule and loot-mari of many decades. IK is the only right choice to direct Pakistan on the right path, whether you like it or not. He's not immortal and neither he can fix it all but he is definitely million miles better than the corrupt to core, many times tried n tested failures you support.

No convincing answers as usual. More deflections, but that’s the hallmark of PTI supporters. They all read from the same script.

Once again - Imran himself is beneficiary of corruption. He is a freeloader who has been sponsored by mafias for decades who viewed him as an investment.

His election campaign was funded by the black money of his mafia friends, so what credibility does he have? None.

He is a hypocrite. I would have ignored his hypocrisy if he was actually a competent politician and public administrator, but he doesn’t know the first thing about politics and administration.

He has proved to be the most incompetent PM this country has ever seen. Totally clueless and out of his depth. He is still high on his cricket euphoria and his vocabulary is still limited to cricket.

Politics is not his forte. Should have become a cricket coach or commentator.

He was selected as a PM by the establishment but now he is rejected. Game over for the flop PM.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Indeed I still recall that post from Mamon, that was the lowest of the lowest post on this forum. Don't mean to directly attack anyone but one really has to be very unstable sanity wise to post such a terrible thing. Also says why such people support the corrupt mafia.

It’s not an attack, posters is proud of his view . It’s interesting those who are supporting PDM tend to be fans of enemy foreign nations , want to move out & even believe Pakistan should never have existed & shouldn’t exist . You couldn’t make this up if one tried

 

[Kriketer]

No convincing answers as usual. More deflections, but that’s the hallmark of PTI supporters. They all read from the same script.

No convincing answer?
All corrupt leeches had to unite against IK, that is convincing enough and the biggest n sweetest victory in itself, there is nothing else to prove here. Your usual scripts cannot save the old tried tested failed mafia you support, they all soon will becoming overseas Pakistanis of London that we know you adore quite a lot, or better ll be rotting behind bars for good.

 

[Itachi]

No convincing answer?
All corrupt leeches had to unite against IK, that is convincing enough and the biggest n sweetest victory in itself, there is nothing else to prove here. Your usual scripts cannot save the old tried tested failed mafia you support, they all soon will becoming overseas Pakistanis of London that we know you adore quite a lot, or better ll be rotting behind bars for good.

Even if the opposition were leeches, PTI violated the constitution and went for dirty tricks. Got embarrassed as repercussion. What PTI did was similar to assassination of the constitution which SC rightly prevented.

 

[SM1989]

Imran Khan is the biggest beneficiary of corruption. He is a freeloader who has been living off the black money of his corrupt mafia friends who financed his election campaign and have sponsored him for decades.

Do you think Imran did not know that Jahangir Tareen was corrupt when he using him as a sponsor?

Imran is a conman. He doesn’t care about corruption as long as it benefits him. He welcomed corrupt politicians in his party because they win votes. He has no morals and no integrity.

The humiliation that he is facing is fully deserved. It is game over for him, he has lost.

Totally agree. His supporters are very selective when it comes to moaning about corruption. I would have forgiven his shady approach had he shown some competence in his tenure, which he did not. He is a big talker but action wise is clueless.

 

[MenInG]

Stay on topic.

 

[SM1989]

The most important thing in Pakistan is the constitution, let's totally ignore the fact that the opposition are criminals and frauds. Yep let's ensure the consitution is adhered to even if it means criminals run our country.

Yes because the reality is a bit more complicated than “IK - good, PDM - bad”

No one should be allowed to play with the constitution, otherwise anyone in future will
use it to get away with any crime.

 

[daytrader]

Yes because the reality is a bit more complicated than “IK - good, PDM - bad”

No one should be allowed to play with the constitution, otherwise anyone in future will
use it to get away with any crime.

That's exactly the point, no one should be able to abuse the constitution, including the Supreme Court. Asad Umar raised a very good point in Parliament today that even if the Speaker's decision was considered wrong, the constitution doesn't allow the SC to interfere in Parliamentary affairs. Same way if a court takes a wrong decision (which we have a vibrant history of) it doesn't give Parliament the right to interfere with the court. These barriers are clearly outlined in Article 68 and 69 of the constitution.

 

[maqbool]

Rule of law is being stretched to the max. Speaker is constantly delaying voting.

Just goes to show what a sore loser Imran Khan is… The opposition is going to use this and delay next elections for sure…

 

[daytrader]

Rule of law is being stretched to the max. Speaker is constantly delaying voting.

Just goes to show what a sore loser Imran Khan is… The opposition is going to use this and delay next elections for sure…

It's not just about PDM vs PTI. It has now become a battle between Parliament and court supremacy. SC shouldn't have meddled in parliamentary affairs.

It's funny to see elected parliamentary members, crying for court supremacy. Lotas will be lotas, they're not even loyal to the office they're sitting in

 

[maqbool]

It's not just about PDM vs PTI. It has now become a battle between Parliament and court supremacy. SC shouldn't have meddled in parliamentary affairs.

It's funny to see elected parliamentary members, crying for court supremacy. Lotas will be lotas, they're not even loyal to the office they're sitting in

From what I heard, lotas are controlled by army to bring whosoever they want to power. Hopefully next elections, one party gets majority and no more lotas are needed.

 

[cricketjoshila]

That's exactly the point, no one should be able to abuse the constitution, including the Supreme Court. Asad Umar raised a very good point in Parliament today that even if the Speaker's decision was considered wrong, the constitution doesn't allow the SC to interfere in Parliamentary affairs. Same way if a court takes a wrong decision (which we have a vibrant history of) it doesn't give Parliament the right to interfere with the court. These barriers are clearly outlined in Article 68 and 69 of the constitution.

Who interprests the constitution in pakistan?

Also, does pakistan has anything like

Article 142 of Indian constitution

Something like this

Definition of Article 142 in Constitution of India

“142. Enforcement of decrees and orders of Supreme Court and unless as to discovery, etc.-

(1) The Supreme Court in the exercise of its jurisdiction may pass such decree or make such order as is necessary for doing complete justice in any cause or matter pending before it, and any decree so passed or orders so made shall be enforceable throughout the territory of India in such manner as may be prescribed by or under any law made by Parliament and, until provision in that behalf is so made, in such manner as the President may by order prescribe.