Corbyn and Labour are offering to form a Government

[s28]

Theresa May failed and has no mandate and no authority.
The media if they tell the truth to the public should laugh her out of town if she tries to form a Government

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/theresa_may">@Theresa_May</a> thought that with the backing of the billionaires and the corporate elite, she could take your vote for granted. <a href="https://t.co/JpazODKMEA">pic.twitter.com/JpazODKMEA</a></p>— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) <a href="https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/873107079405330433">9 June 2017</a></blockquote>
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[s28]

Theresa May LIED to the British people

She said if she lost 6 seats Corbyn would be PM but she is desperately clinging to power (she has lost 12 seats)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If I lose just six seats I will lose this election and Jeremy Corbyn will be sitting down to negotiate with Europe: <a href="https://t.co/OwbfDseOJh">https://t.co/OwbfDseOJh</a></p>— Theresa May (@theresa_may) <a href="https://twitter.com/theresa_may/status/865855578454806529">20 May 2017</a></blockquote>
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[shaz619]

That's literally Jeremy Corbyn in the middle there and all the people of our country reaching out! that's how much he inspires! the country has spoken! WE WANT JEREMY CORBYN AS PM ! in just 6 weeks he gave the tories a bloody nose and severely wounded them, with more time a majority would not have been in doubt but nevertheless the current result is still brilliant for Labour, I been predicting a win but this is just as good; I have done my bit to gather the youngster beauties and we all came out in our numbers 72% ! compared to just 42% of 18-24 year olds last time round. uncle [MENTION=865]Big Mac[/MENTION] hehehe was waiting to lay into us but we proved all his views wrong!

The 72% proves that the youth ARE NOT politically apathetic! We just needed an honest candidate to vote for! [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION]

 

[Mamoon]

Theresa May is seemingly refusing to resign.

 

[IMMY69]

Theresa May is seemingly refusing to resign.

She would have been advised not to resign immediately by her minsters as that would cause turmoil in the markets.

The big picture (IMHO) is:-

Corbyn doing the right thing by adding pressure on May to resign and talking about an alliance... This strategy is to force an autumn election.

An autumn election will see Labour win.

Corbyn Vs Boris in October/November will be a no contest

 

[shaz619]

Theresa May is seemingly refusing to resign.

Channelling her inner-pakistani

 

[Big Mac]

That's literally Jeremy Corbyn in the middle there and all the people of our country reaching out! that's how much he inspires! the country has spoken! WE WANT JEREMY CORBYN AS PM ! in just 6 weeks he gave the tories a bloody nose and severely wounded them, with more time a majority would not have been in doubt but nevertheless the current result is still brilliant for Labour, I been predicting a win but this is just as good; I have done my bit to gather the youngster beauties and we all came out in our numbers 72% ! compared to just 42% of 18-24 year olds last time round. uncle [MENTION=865]Big Mac[/MENTION] hehehe was waiting to lay into us but we proved all his views wrong!

The 72% proves that the youth ARE NOT politically apathetic! We just needed an honest candidate to vote for! [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION]

Reverse psychology, I told you and rest of the children you were too lazy to vote so you all rushed to the polling stations and voted. Oldest trick in the book.

You're welcome.

 

[Adil_94]

seems like May is looking for a coalition with the DUP to form her government. No doubt Corbyn has given her a bloody nose though.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Jeremy 'the real deal' Corbyn has been throwing combinations from angles unseen before . A battered and bruised May is on the ropes . Saved by the bell the next round will see her weak & wobbly legs not able to withstand the certain Knockout. And the Newwww Prime Minster Of Britian..

 

[Mamoon]

She would have been advised not to resign immediately by her minsters as that would cause turmoil in the markets.

The big picture (IMHO) is:-

Corbyn doing the right thing by adding pressure on May to resign and talking about an alliance... This strategy is to force an autumn election.

An autumn election will see Labour win.

Corbyn Vs Boris in October/November will be a no contest

Another GE looks inevitable at this point. However, I wonder if Farage will try to get lucky on the 8th attempt. Another potential problem is that has a few people worried - and I share their concerns - is that a some of the first-time voters may not turn up again, because their votes "did not work".

 

[Mamoon]

Onto the Queen now. She finally has a job to do.

 

[shaz619]

Jeremy 'the real deal' Corbyn has been throwing combinations from angles unseen before . A battered and bruised May is on the ropes . Saved by the bell &#55357;&#56596; the next round will see her weak & wobbly legs not able to withstand the certain Knockout. And the Newwww Prime Minster Of Britian.. &#55357;&#56394;&#55356;&#57342;

In the next round she will take a knee like Kell Brook, JC will force her to Quit

 

[Markhor]

For all the talk of Corbyn's sympathies for the IRA, I wonder what the same press hatchetmen will think of May joining forces with a party in the DUP who retain links to Loyalist paramilitaries, oppose abortion, are homophobic and deny climate change.

 

[IMMY69]

Another GE looks inevitable at this point. However, I wonder if Farage will try to get lucky on the 8th attempt. Another potential problem is that has a few people worried - and I share their concerns - is that a some of the first-time voters may not turn up again, because their votes "did not work".

Farage has already made a statement on Radio that he will re-join UKIP if he is needed to ensure Brexit happens.

UKIP lost voters to the Tories and I think they'll get big support in an Autumn Election with Farage as the leader.

 

[shaz619]

For all the talk of Corbyn's sympathies for the IRA, I wonder what the same press hatchetmen will think of May joining forces with a party in the DUP who retain links to Loyalist paramilitaries, oppose abortion, are homophobic and deny climate change.

Who are they?

And you're right, I know a few who have pledged not to vote for Corbyn due to his comments on Hamas, links with the IRA, support for the "Stop the War Coalition", appearances on the Iranian state funded Press TV and Vladimir Putin’s Russia Today, collusion with Islamists and anti-semites and his views on extremism being mostly influenced by foreign policy then anything else. Maybe he'd have won more seats if these concerns were addressed better.

 

[Varun]

Haha, you could have called this from miles away.

No election or referendum goes as per plan anymore. These politicos deserve what they get.

Unfortunately that means Rahul Gandhi is going to come to power against all odds in 2019.

 

[s28]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To be fair Theresa May warned of coalition of chaos propped up by extremist terrorist sympathisers. She just didn't say she'd be leading it.</p>— Liam Young (@liamyoung) <a href="https://twitter.com/liamyoung/status/873146824059760642">9 June 2017</a></blockquote>
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[James]

This won't last.

Will be Jeremy v Boris within the next 12 months.

 

[Markhor]

Who are they?

And you're right, I know a few who have pledged not to vote for Corbyn due to his comments on Hamas, links with the IRA, support for the "Stop the War Coalition", appearances on the Iranian state funded Press TV and Vladimir Putin’s Russia Today, collusion with Islamists and anti-semites and his views on extremism being mostly influenced by foreign policy then anything else. Maybe he'd have won more seats if these concerns were addressed better.

The DUP has strong historical links to Loyalist paramilitaries like the UVF and UDA - but in particular the terrorist group Ulster Resistance, which was founded by people who ended up becoming prominent DUP politicians. The party’s former leader Peter Robinson, for example, was an active member of the terror group !

Ulster Resistance has urged its activists to campaign for the DUP, a call the party has refused to dissociate themselves from.

Since the start of the year senior representatives of the DUP have met with known members of the UDA across the Six Counties. They have visited organisations and buildings under its influence, including its Belfast headquarters, have leased constituency offices from its affiliates and have jointly attended demonstrations with its leaders.

For god sake, the UDA just shot dead a man in County Down last week in front of his 3 year old son ! And Arlene Forster, the leader of the DUP, met with the head of the DUP only 48 hours after !

Loyalist Communities Council, a front-organisation for the banned terrorists of the UDA, the UVF and the Red Hand Commando, publicly endorsed the DUP at this election but Theresa May is happy to get into bed with these terrorist sympathisers after spending the whole campaign talking up Corbyn's sympathies for the IRA.

 

[the Great Khan]

This won't last.

Will be Jeremy v Boris within the next 12 months.

yup. That buffoon will be waiting to pounce. We really need to be ready to take him down!!

 

[IMMY69]

yup. That buffoon will be waiting to pounce. We really need to be ready to take him down!!

With the momentum as it is an Autumn election will result in a Labour Government.

What will happen is that the UKIP voters will return to UKIP/Farage further reducing the Tory vote and the caricature that is Boris Johnson will be obliterated.

 

[idrizzy]

Reverse psychology, I told you and rest of the children you were too lazy to vote so you all rushed to the polling stations and voted. Oldest trick in the book.

You're welcome.

) mate I was getting chain mail of Labour propaganda on WhatsApp, so I laboured myself to the polling station

 

[shaz619]

The DUP has strong historical links to Loyalist paramilitaries like the UVF and UDA - but in particular the terrorist group Ulster Resistance, which was founded by people who ended up becoming prominent DUP politicians. The party’s former leader Peter Robinson, for example, was an active member of the terror group !

Ulster Resistance has urged its activists to campaign for the DUP, a call the party has refused to dissociate themselves from.

Since the start of the year senior representatives of the DUP have met with known members of the UDA across the Six Counties. They have visited organisations and buildings under its influence, including its Belfast headquarters, have leased constituency offices from its affiliates and have jointly attended demonstrations with its leaders.

For god sake, the UDA just shot dead a man in County Down last week in front of his 3 year old son ! And Arlene Forster, the leader of the DUP, met with the head of the DUP only 48 hours after !

Loyalist Communities Council, a front-organisation for the banned terrorists of the UDA, the UVF and the Red Hand Commando, publicly endorsed the DUP at this election but Theresa May is happy to get into bed with these terrorist sympathisers after spending the whole campaign talking up Corbyn's sympathies for the IRA.

Insightful post, cheers mate. Would be beyond hypocritical for May to get in bed with those satanists, they should not be allowed to allowed to take part in politics never mind form a minority government!

 

[Haroon786]

I don't see how the current proposed set up will work with Brexit negotiations needing clear and unequivocal decisions. The opposition from Corbyn and co will ensure that each stage of the negotiations will be constantly challenged and thus make a second election an almost certainty.

May has made a massive political blunder - one that will most likely lead to a transfer of power to Labour from a situation where the Tories never looked like losing.

 

[s28]

And Tories will get to 'own Brexit' disaster

 

[James]

There is a fair bit of chatter about this coalition being illegal under the Good Friday Agreement. This needs looking into.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

See I don't know much about uk politics , even after loosing some seat May party is still biggest party in uk by far means she is still preferred choice compare to others or I am missing something.

 

[James]

Ruth Davidson is already using her own new 13 MPs to wield Scottish power over Brexit also. Telegraph has reported this and they are usually pretty accurate.

Theresa is on a collision course with the backbenches.

 

[Robert]

This won't last.

Will be Jeremy v Boris within the next 12 months.

I wonder. Johnson is now distrusted by the Tories - a Remainer who opportunistically turned Leaver, who is out only for himself. Will they back him?

Though he has a bit of charisma and could win over some floaters. David Davis or Amber Rudd might be a better candidate.

I bet Osborne is kicking himself now.

 

[s28]

Tories might well split. As might Labour. George Osborne going after Theresa May. Maybe form new party as previously suggested called Democrats and occupy the 'centre ground' Remain that Liberals have failed due to their patheticness

Any such Party will fail. There is not enough room for a 'centrist' party and there is no natural activist base.

 

[s28]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/theresa_may">@Theresa_May</a> thought that with the backing of the billionaires and the corporate elite, she could take your vote for granted. <a href="https://t.co/JpazODKMEA">pic.twitter.com/JpazODKMEA</a></p>— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) <a href="https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/873107079405330433">9 June 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Markhor]

See I don't know much about uk politics , even after loosing some seat May party is still biggest party in uk by far means she is still preferred choice compare to others or I am missing something.

The surprise is because most polls predicted a big win for Theresa May's party with majority of 40-100+ but instead she lost her majority and there is a hung parliament meaning she has to depend on another party to govern.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

The surprise is because most polls predicted a big win for Theresa May's party with majority of 40-100+ but instead she lost her majority and there is a hung parliament meaning she has to depend on another party to govern.

Ok friend I got it, but seeing the op that second party which got 260 seats want to make government over party which got 318 seats make me ask that question.
Even loosing majority May party is still the biggest one and that by big margin.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

There is a fair bit of chatter about this coalition being illegal under the Good Friday Agreement. This needs looking into.

It's quite careless of the Conservatives too. In NI the British Government is supposed to play the role of neutral third party. How on earth can this image remain in a DUP plus Conservative UK government?

This could effectively end any chance of the Assembly restarting for the time being.

 

[s28]

New poll out tonight from Survation who were the most accurate of the pollsters

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Westminster voting intention:<br><br>LAB: 45% (+5)<br>CON: 39% (-3)<br>LDEM: 7% (-)<br>UKIP: 3% (+1)<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/Survation">@Survation</a> / 10 Jun)<br>Chgs. w/ GE2017</p>— Britain Elects (@britainelects) <a href="https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/873674408224862210">10 June 2017</a></blockquote>
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[s28]

Also news that 150,000 have joined Labour since the General Election !

Labour membership now circa 800,000 and they are targeting 1 million

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In last 3 days, 150,000 people have joined Labour. We now have 800,000 members. Great news! Let's make it a million! <a href="https://t.co/2ES1YE7ghi">https://t.co/2ES1YE7ghi</a></p>— Richard Burgon (@RichardBurgon) <a href="https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/873650441124548608">10 June 2017</a></blockquote>
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[s28]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FINISH HER BIG JEZZA <a href="https://t.co/ZGYl6wbNj5">https://t.co/ZGYl6wbNj5</a></p>— Nooruddean (@BeardedGenius) <a href="https://twitter.com/BeardedGenius/status/873638859132858368">10 June 2017</a></blockquote>
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[s28]

Interesting days ahead

Corbz to announce his new Shadow Cabinet (will the supposed soft-left / centrist / Blairite 'big hitters' be brought back?)

Labour to issue alternative Queen's Speech and challenge legitimacy of May/Tory Government

 

[James]

TM is really going to struggle to stay on her feet here.

Conservative Prime Ministers are rarely popular with the public, but not only is this one particularly despised, she barely has a mandate - at least Cameron, Thatcher, Major etc could point to clear majorities.

Methinks we are heading for another day at the polling stations.

 

[Couch Cricketer]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] Are you praising or cursing DUP as the satanists or Church of Satan followers are better people and humans than all religon based parties all over the world.

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[s28]

Queens Speech delayed. Tories Coalition of Chaos unravelling ?

 

[s28]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"Jeremy Corbyn Is Leading the Left Out of the Wilderness and Toward Power" - my new column on the UK election result<a href="https://t.co/i2379mTKty">https://t.co/i2379mTKty</a></p>— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) <a href="https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/873932388484689920">June 11, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[s28]

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tory Chaos. The Queen's speech, which was due to be made on 19 June, has been delayed <a href="https://t.co/aZFEcp1iST">pic.twitter.com/aZFEcp1iST</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JC4PM?src=hash">#JC4PM</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Labour?src=hash">#Labour</a></p>— ScouseGirl (Sarah) (@NameChangeGirl) <a href="https://twitter.com/NameChangeGirl/status/874257912834777090">June 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[s28]

Corbyn on fire as Parliament resumes today

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We look forward to welcoming Queen's Speech once "coalition of chaos" has been negotiated - Jeremy Corbyn <a href="https://t.co/YtRxj7tGtH">https://t.co/YtRxj7tGtH</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GE2017?src=hash">#GE2017</a> <a href="https://t.co/Xzp7svjAlR">pic.twitter.com/Xzp7svjAlR</a></p>— BBC News (UK) (@BBCNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/874632421622243329">13 June 2017</a></blockquote>
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[s28]

stirring words from Tony Benn

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[s28]

Corbyn is like the real Prime Minister or something...

 

[Robert]

He is going to do a deal with the Tories to enact Brexit even though 74% of Labour supporters are Remainers. He will betray you all. You can't trust him.

 

[ShadabFakhar]

He is going to do a deal with the Tories to enact Brexit even though 74% of Labour supporters are Remainers. He will betray you all. You can't trust him.

They are mostly remainers who accept the result of the referendum. They trusted him to get a better deal than the Maybot. Out of the three party leaders who can potentially negotiate Brexit, he has the most credibility.

 

[Markhor]

I stumbled upon a recent interview on YouTube with Norman Tebbit (yes he's still alive).

Apparently young Corbyn voters were "uneducated" and opinion polls are not truly representative as there's so many ethnic minorities now and you can't talk to "Muslim women locked up in the basement".

Had to switch off there. What a sad, out of touch old man whose only legacy is of destroying working-class communities with relish and presiding over 3 million unemployed, rising homelessness and soaring suicide rates. A man whose government opposed sanctions in Apartheid South Africa and opposed the Good Friday Agreement.

Strange he criticises the deal with the DUP, he'd be right at home with the homophobes in that party. After all, Tebbit for many years said LGBT people should never become Home Secretary.

It never fails to amuse me to see him getting wheeled out in his pyjamas after the ceiling crashed in on him in Brighton.

 

[s28]

Labour are in full on campaigning mode

This is the list of Tory marginals they're targeting over coming weeks

Boris Johnson's seat is at row 65 and looks eminently achievable his majority went from c.10k to 5k in last Election

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M0d0ggXmH18VBXVLxYaLjqD4YQ5YL8Sh1Z555USAfyQ/edit#gid=0

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=107620]s28[/MENTION] is another general election certain this year ?

 

[ShadabFakhar]

Labour are in full on campaigning mode

This is the list of Tory marginals they're targeting over coming weeks

Boris Johnson's seat is at row 65 and looks eminently achievable his majority went from c.10k to 5k in last Election

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M0d0ggXmH18VBXVLxYaLjqD4YQ5YL8Sh1Z555USAfyQ/edit#gid=0

Saw a video where he told IDS he was targeting his seat, I laughed and enjoyed it but it's too much too soon. Labour first need to consolidate before they move forward, his calling out for an election could backfire because he'll be accused of divisive politics. He needs to be a lot more patronising and expose the divisions in the Tory party, let them self-destruct and let them call an election.

 

[s28]

[MENTION=107620]s28[/MENTION] is another general election certain this year ?

dunno difficult with FTPA and Labour will want Tories to own Brexit so probably don't want election until 2019

 

[s28]

sass

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dear <a href="https://twitter.com/theresa_may">@theresa_may</a>, you asked for ideas so I've sent you our manifesto. I hope it helps to “clarify and improve” your policies <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ForTheMany?src=hash">#ForTheMany</a> <a href="https://t.co/mWu1ezlzLQ">pic.twitter.com/mWu1ezlzLQ</a></p>— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) <a href="https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/884826906255929344">11 July 2017</a></blockquote>
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[ShadabFakhar]

sass

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dear <a href="https://twitter.com/theresa_may">@theresa_may</a>, you asked for ideas so I've sent you our manifesto. I hope it helps to “clarify and improve” your policies <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ForTheMany?src=hash">#ForTheMany</a> <a href="https://t.co/mWu1ezlzLQ">pic.twitter.com/mWu1ezlzLQ</a></p>— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) <a href="https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/884826906255929344">11 July 2017</a></blockquote>
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The twitter response is exactly what I feared. He's walked right into the Tory trap.

 

[James]

In Britain we mock the Americans for choosing Trump - but at least they chose him. He progressed all the way through an acknowledged democratic process, got convincingly elected, and he has earned a mandate to govern his country.

In contrast this Parliament feels like a bit of a 'post-government', completely inert - unable to say or do anything. It is clearly functioning to some degree, because the country itself is still ticking over in a modest fashion; but that is all that is happening. We will be in this holding pattern until TM finally throws in the towel.

 

[Robert]

Time for cross-party co-operation, then. The Germans make it work.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Is this offer still open?

2 years old and we're no close to a Corbyn government than we were back then. And now we're going to be stuck with Boris led government.

 

[s28]

Odd then that all the messaging in Tory Leadership race was 'Only i can beat Corbyn'

Maybe you are more intelligent than the next PM ?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Only <a href="https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BorisJohnson</a> can deliver Brexit by 31st October, unite our country, and stop Jeremy Corbyn getting into Downing Street.<br><br>Join the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BackBoris?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BackBoris</a> team &#55357;&#56393; <a href="https://t.co/qXXcCvWsiR">https://t.co/qXXcCvWsiR</a> <a href="https://t.co/uOqGAay84P">pic.twitter.com/uOqGAay84P</a></p>— Back Boris (@BackBoris) <a href="https://twitter.com/BackBoris/status/1146081627761729537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 2, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Gabbar Singh]

So Corbyn supporters are now relying on the words of someone like Boris in order to show us that Corbyn is a serious PM contender. Brilliant!

Corbyn can barely land a blow on what is arguably the worst Conservative government in history.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Labour down to 18%, record low in poll<br><br>CON 24%(+2)<br>BREX 23%(+1)<br>LDEM 20%(+1)<br>LAB 18%(-2)<br>GRN 9%(-1)<br><br>Lowest ever rating with <a href="https://twitter.com/YouGov?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@YouGov</a> back to 2002<br><br>Only time as low as 18% was IpsosMORI in May’09<br><br>57% of Lab ‘17 voters back other parties<a href="https://t.co/DdJkLH2g8b">https://t.co/DdJkLH2g8b</a> <a href="https://t.co/WJrZaHwXXv">pic.twitter.com/WJrZaHwXXv</a></p>— Matt Chorley (@MattChorley) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattChorley/status/1146524127160872960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Robert]

Unless they get a credible leader and come out for Remain, they will drop below the Greens.

 

[the Great Khan]

Unless they get a credible leader and come out for Remain, they will drop below the Greens.

what is a credible Labour leader? New labour is dead you should accept it. Corbyns policies are what will matter in a GE and they will settle on a brexit position quite soon.

just like in 2017 Corbyn had more resilience and has a coherent message to give to the electorate. If he is removed and replaced with a new labour racist pro isreal stooge you can kiss goodbye to Labour. theyll look nice in the polls and youll get a puffy chest. then on election night youll get the beating of your life like with miliband when you were all hopeful..

You can even ship in david miliband and watch labour disintegrate..Corbyns policies and progressive message is the way to go. Nobody else within labour has a better message..

Labours problem is balancing the needs of their remain and leave voters..

 

[the Great Khan]

Is this offer still open?

2 years old and we're no close to a Corbyn government than we were back then. And now we're going to be stuck with Boris led government.

due to the fixed parliament act you'll be stuck with the tories for the forseeable future..Corbyn cant come in unless their is a GE. You need to stop acting like a political illiterate.

 

[Robert]

what is a credible Labour leader? New labour is dead you should accept it. Corbyns policies are what will matter in a GE and they will settle on a brexit position quite soon.

just like in 2017 Corbyn had more resilience and has a coherent message to give to the electorate. If he is removed and replaced with a new labour racist pro isreal stooge you can kiss goodbye to Labour. theyll look nice in the polls and youll get a puffy chest. then on election night youll get the beating of your life like with miliband when you were all hopeful..

You can even ship in david miliband and watch labour disintegrate..Corbyns policies and progressive message is the way to go. Nobody else within labour has a better message..

Labours problem is balancing the needs of their remain and leave voters..

One who convinces enough voters to have a chance of winning a GE. The Last Labour Leader to do that was Tory Blair. Before him you had to go back to Harold Wilson (though I believe John Smith would have been PM in 1997 had he lived).

Get a leader who can unite the party from its centre and command the PLP. My suggestion is David Lammy. Personable, a Remainer, and unlike Corbyn possessed of brains and ability..

 

[the Great Khan]

One who convinces enough voters to have a chance of winning a GE. The Last Labour Leader to do that was Tory Blair. Before him you had to go back to Harold Wilson (though I believe John Smith would have been PM in 1997 had he lived).

Get a leader who can unite the party from its centre and command the PLP. My suggestion is David Lammy. Personable, a Remainer, and unlike Corbyn possessed of brains and ability..

David Lammy anti palestinian. Just another LFI stooge..no thanks..also his judgement hasnt yet been tested. His policies are incoherent. He has none..just sound bites..

 

[the Great Khan]

oh the centre is used to be new labour..it has proven to be a complete failure..you will get destroyed at a GE with that approach.

 

[James]

Boris is going to become Prime Minister and I think he would defeat Corbyn in a GE as well.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Boris is going to become Prime Minister and I think he would defeat Corbyn in a GE as well.

Hilary benn is labours best bet

 

[Robert]

oh the centre is used to be new labour..it has proven to be a complete failure..you will get destroyed at a GE with that approach.

New Labour won three general election on the bounce. Even Attlee only won two.

If you read what I posted you will see that I refer to the centre of the Labour Party, not the centre of British politics.

 

[Robert]

Boris is going to become Prime Minister and I think he would defeat Corbyn in a GE as well.

A populist vs a populist. I guess you are right as if he goes for No Deal then BXP will collapse, while Labour continues to haemorrhage Remainer support to Lib Dems and Greens.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

due to the fixed parliament act you'll be stuck with the tories for the forseeable future..Corbyn cant come in unless their is a GE. You need to stop acting like a political illiterate.

But the opinion polls don't lie - we're into the 9th year of a Tory or Tory led government and Labour should be miles ahead at this stage yet they are not.

Sure these polls aren't always 100% accurate but they're pretty good at giving us the trend.

As for a GE - circumventing the fixed term parliament act is pretty simple as we saw in 2017.

Corbyn may be a decent man - I'm sure he is - but what's the point if he can't convince enough of the general population to vote for him? He cannot even unite his own party never-mind the country.

 

[Robert]

due to the fixed parliament act you'll be stuck with the tories for the forseeable future..Corbyn cant come in unless their is a GE. You need to stop acting like a political illiterate.

Ah but the Fixed Parliament Act doesn’t apply if the PM calls for an election for some reason and a majority of MPs agree. If Johnson goes for No Deal there could be a No Confidence motion which enough Tories support to crash the government.

 

[the Great Khan]

But the opinion polls don't lie - we're into the 9th year of a Tory or Tory led government and Labour should be miles ahead at this stage yet they are not.

Sure these polls aren't always 100% accurate but they're pretty good at giving us the trend.

As for a GE - circumventing the fixed term parliament act is pretty simple as we saw in 2017.

Corbyn may be a decent man - I'm sure he is - but what's the point if he can't convince enough of the general population to vote for him? He cannot even unite his own party never-mind the country.

alot of the disadvantage Corbyn has is the way he is portrayed in the media..as soon as he put his manifesto to the people they voted for him. He doesnt need to be miles in front..he needs to be just in front or touching distance, considering we are facing brexit..this narrative that he should be miles in front does not take into account brexit..

If you think for one second labour can win an election with someone like Tom watson in charge you have another thing coming..

 

[Gabbar Singh]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whoever becomes the new Prime Minister should put their deal, or No Deal, back to the people in a public vote.<br><br>In those circumstances, Labour would campaign for Remain against either No Deal or a Tory deal that does not protect the economy and jobs.</p>— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) <a href="https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1148539785193107457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Robert]

alot of the disadvantage Corbyn has is the way he is portrayed in the media..as soon as he put his manifesto to the people they voted for him. He doesnt need to be miles in front..he needs to be just in front or touching distance, considering we are facing brexit..this narrative that he should be miles in front does not take into account brexit..

If you think for one second labour can win an election with someone like Tom watson in charge you have another thing coming..

Well the landscape has shifted as Labour are for a second referendum now.

That’s critical. I think the U.K. could survive a term of Corbyn as PM as long as Starmer and Watson are pulling the levers, but Brexit will cause dreadful long term harm, putting millions in the dole, collapsing the NHS and splitting the Union.

 

[the Great Khan]

Well the landscape has shifted as Labour are for a second referendum now.

That’s critical. I think the U.K. could survive a term of Corbyn as PM as long as Starmer and Watson are pulling the levers, but Brexit will cause dreadful long term harm, putting millions in the dole, collapsing the NHS and splitting the Union.

watson should never be near any leadership role. He is a snake and I hope he is disposed of as soon as possible. I dont want any of the LFI crew anywhere near the top roles. They betrayed the BME's of the uk and working class people. There will not be a no deal brexit, we will get a soft version or none at all. the oct 31st date will be extended and we will not be leaving..

 

[Robert]

watson should never be near any leadership role. He is a snake and I hope he is disposed of as soon as possible. I dont want any of the LFI crew anywhere near the top roles. They betrayed the BME's of the uk and working class people. There will not be a no deal brexit, we will get a soft version or none at all. the oct 31st date will be extended and we will not be leaving..

LFI crew?

 

[Gabbar Singh]

LFI crew?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Friends_of_Israel