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India's biggest Bollywood star, Shah Rukh Khan, has said he will fund 25,000 personal protective equipment (PPE) kits for health workers on the front line in the western state of Maharashtra.
The 54-year-old actor was in the news last month after he announced several initiatives to help tackle the virus in India, including providing free meals and offering his four-storey office space for treating Covid-19 patients.
One of the country's most popular and recognisable faces, Khan has appeared in more than 90 films.
India has reported 339 coronavirus-related deaths so far.

Good one from SRK. Hope other celebrities follow the suit too.
 
UP Kerala Odisha have done very well in controlling the covid infection.

Maharashtra is by far the worst.

Delhi Telangana TN got hit by the TJ cases.

MP and Raj are still trying to fight.

Karnataka is doing well too.

May be because it’s the most honest state in India in Covid data. Still it needs to scale up testing.
 
Srinagar, Indian-administered Kashmir - Bilquees Shah, 50, a doctor in Indian-administered Kashmir, starts her day early these days and works till late night as hospitals in the region battle the coronavirus pandemic.

But she remains troubled and restless about her husband, Shabir Ahmad Shah, 65, a senior separatist leader, who is lodged in New Delhi's Tihar Jail hundreds of miles away for the last three years.

Shah was arrested on July 25, 2017, for money laundering allegedly committed in 2005. He claims he was falsely implicated, but was denied bail by a court in New Delhi.

"It is his 33rd year overall in imprisonment," said Shah's wife. "In the earlier times, we never begged the government to release him. But this time, there is a pandemic and it has no borders."

Bilquees said she remains worried about the condition inside jails. "They do not get proper food, there is no hygiene," she told Al Jazeera.

PSA detainees outside Kashmir

Hundreds of Kashmiris - including politicians, lawyers and activists - were detained when the Indian government revoked Jammu and Kashmir state's special status in August last year and moved to jails outside the disputed region.

Most of the detainees have been booked under the stringent Public Safety Act (PSA) - a law termed "lawless" by the Amnesty International rights group - for allowing detention without trial for a year.

Many of those detained under the PSA have been moved to New Delhi's Tihar Jail and a jail in Agra city in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh.

According to the official data, Tihar jail has an inmate population of 17,534 while its capacity is 10,026.

The National Crime Records Bureau data on Indian prisons last year revealed that Uttar Pradesh had the most overcrowded jails despite having the highest capacity to accommodate prisoners among all states in the country.

An official in Kashmir, on condition of anonymity, told Al Jazeera, that nearly 220 people detained during the August 5 lockdown are languishing in jails outside the Kashmir region.

"Most of the Kashmiris in Tihar Jail are diabetic like my husband or have other ailments. One Kashmiri detainee has brain tumour. They should be released this time or shifted to Kashmir on humanitarian grounds," said Shah's wife.

Like Bilquees, Zamruda Mushtaq is worried about her 22-year-old son Asif Khushoo who is in detention for the last eight months for "being a threat to public order" and "involvement in violent protests".

Mushtaq last saw him five months ago in the Agra jail. Since then, she has been waiting to know about his welfare amid mounting concerns that the spread of COVID-19 in cramped prisons could be a humanitarian disaster.

"When we watch the news and see how fast the disease is spreading, we cry day and night for our son," said Mushtaq.

Mian Abdul Qayoom, 76, is one of the top lawyers and anti-India voices in Kashmir, who remains without trial in Tihar Jail, where he was shifted from Agra two months ago.

Qayoom heads the Jammu and Kashmir High Court Bar Association and has often backed shutdowns and protests called by the region's anti-India politicians, for which he was detained several times.

His latest detention came on August 4 last year, a day before India abrogated Kashmir's limited autonomy and divided the Himalayan region into two federally-administered territories.

Mian Muzaffar, Qayoom's nephew, told Al Jazeera they have not received a word from him in a month due to a complete lockdown imposed across India to combat the COVID-19 spread.

"He has diabetes for the last 26 years and needs 30 units of insulin twice a day. He also has a single kidney for the last 26 years after he suffered a bullet injury in 1995 which also wounded his spine. He has undergone surgery nine times," Muzaffar said.

While the families of Kashmiris imprisoned without trial in jails in faraway cities were struggling to secure their release, the world was hit by the coronavirus pandemic.

A nationwide lockdown - now extended to May 3 - to prevent the disease has also shut the Indian courts, where the cases of the detained Kashmiris were being heard.

The curbs on road, rail or air travel effectively isolated the detainees from their families.

In response to the Supreme Court's order on March 23 to decongest jails across the country amid the pandemic, the Jammu and Kashmir administration formed a committee which decided to release convicted prisoners and undertrials "on the basis of the nature of offence, the number of years [served in jail] and severity of offence".

VK Singh, director general of prisons in Jammu and Kashmir and member of the committee, told Al Jazeera 50 prisoners have been released, but the committee did not have the mandate to decide on PSA cases outside the region.

"Cases from outside Jammu and Kashmir are handled by principal secretary (home) because they are Public Safety Act cases. The committee is not dealing with PSA cases," he said.

However, a senior government official on condition of anonymity told Al Jazeera that authorities in the region are set to order the release of nearly 40 people detained under the PSA outside Kashmir.

Elena Leclerc, the Health in Detention programme coordinator for the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), said the outbreak of the disease in prisons can prove devastating for prisoners.

"An outbreak of COVID-19 in a prison could be devastating to the population there, especially an overcrowded prison where general health is already low," she said in an interview published on the ICRC website.

Khurram Parvez, a Kashmir-based human rights activist, told Al Jazeera at least 300 Kashmiris are lodged in overcrowded prisons outside the region.

"Due to the lockdown their families are unable to visit them and know nothing about their wellbeing," he said.

Amnesty also urged the Indian government to release Kashmiri detainees, saying that "building trust" with the people is "essential in fighting an unprecedented pandemic".

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...safety-kin-cramped-jails-200413103319099.html
 
May be because it’s the most honest state in India in Covid data. Still it needs to scale up testing.

They are the worst, and the reason is not the numbers, the way they handled it, local was running till 20 march or like that, they never took any action before it went out of hand
 
3000+ crowd at Bandra Station. [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION], [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION], [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION] 🤦*♂
 
3000+ crowd at Bandra Station. [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION], [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION], [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION] 🤦*♂

Migrants trying to get out, because our foresighted government allowed booking train tickets starting April 14. And then voila, extended the lockdown last minute again, leaving them vulnerable to rumour mongering and police laathis
 
Migrants trying to get out, because our foresighted government allowed booking train tickets starting April 14. And then voila, extended the lockdown last minute again, leaving them vulnerable to rumour mongering and police laathis

Yup same thing happened with Airlines too. Govt has not planned this to the minutest of detail. Blanket decision often lead to chaos.
 
They probably thought it will be over by 14th April and then the extension came. I think they badly wants to go home now.

Yes, they are missing home, normal people always do, they just don't no about virus thing as most of them are illiterate.
And sending these migrants home is also more risky in compare to what happened last in Delhi as most of these lives in slum and virus has reached slum of mumbai
 
But imagine the spread of corona even if one of them had it.
This is catch 22 because most of them are coming from slum but I have sympathy with them as normal people miss home, I am also in Goa alone so I can understand them wanting to see their family person
 
This is catch 22 because most of them are coming from slum but I have sympathy with them as normal people miss home, I am also in Goa alone so I can understand them wanting to see their family person

Even I'm in Mumbai (job here) and hometown is in chandigarh so stuck here for the time being.
 
Police disperse large crowd defying lockdown in Mumbai

Police have used force to disperse a large crowd of migrant workers who defied the lockdown in place in the western city of Mumbai.

They thought that the lockdown would end today and gathered at a railway station to return home, state Home Minister Anil Deshmukh told BBC Marathi.

The lockdown was due to end on 15 April, but on Tuesday Prime Minister Narendra Modi announced that it would be extended until 3 May.

However, opposition leaders claimed the protests were about a lack of food and job security. Many of these workers are paid daily and have been left without any income due to the lockdown.

Thousands are said to have begun walking to their villages from cities such as Mumbai and the capital Delhi. But those left behind are stuck in the city as all district and state borders in the country have been sealed.

This is the second violent incident involving migrant and daily-wage workers.

A few days ago a large number of migrant workers protested on the streets of Surat, in the western state of Gujarat. A number of shops were set on fire.
 
Even I'm in Mumbai (job here) and hometown is in chandigarh so stuck here for the time being.
We are literate so can understand about country situation but these workers don't understand and with no income coming they are missing home,coubtry is going through tough times
 
But imagine the spread of corona even if one of them had it.

Look at Times Now coverage on it. There is so much josh in their reporting now. They are questioning Uddhav Thackeray. I hope it has nothing to do with BJP not in power there. :inti
 
6 people from next street have been tested positive, confirmed. 3 of them surrendered before the authorities, 3 are resisting and threatening the TN state government health workers. All are from the Delhi religious event and rumors are that the 40 people from this locality attended the super-spreader event. Area got sealed day before yesterday, no milk, no vegetables, everything has shut down and we can't leave our houses. Communication isn't proper. My father was in that street to buy some essential items one day before it was sealed, even though he was wearing mask many there were being careless. Very scary times this.
 
Seems like the situation is getting bad in some parts of India.

Dangerous times.
 
3000+ crowd at Bandra Station. [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION], [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION], [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION] ��*♂

It's a sad situation bud.

I can't blame them.

Imagine biding your time for this day and then BAM...you are hit with another 19 days of lockdown.

At the same time, I can see why they must be stopped.

My heart goes out to them.

Also imagine how would others stuck in random cities be managing? Their cash would have run out....and God knows where they might be staying. 40 days to put up in one place.
 
It's a sad situation bud.

I can't blame them.

Imagine biding your time for this day and then BAM...you are hit with another 19 days of lockdown.

At the same time, I can see why they must be stopped.

My heart goes out to them.

Also imagine how would others stuck in random cities be managing? Their cash would have run out....and God knows where they might be staying. 40 days to put up in one place.

But government is providing food and shelter to these people right? The quality of food might be very debatable though
 
But if the government was not then the Uddhav Thackeray govt deserves the harshest of criticism. It is the responsibility of the govt to provide food and shelter for the homeless in these times.
 
But government is providing food and shelter to these people right? The quality of food might be very debatable though

It's not about food and shelter for them anymore.

Right or wrong.....when you make a promise and then go back on it, people feel betrayed. These people are frustrated. Mentally shot. They waited for 21 days. Now they are asked to wait for another 19 days.

To put it in perspective, we people sitting at our home and still losing our minds over this. Imagine the poor stuck in some place and asked to remain put.

It's a tough situation.

If I were them, I wouldn't be rational too.

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By the way, is there any link that I can use to check how many tests are done in each state? I mean I can see test per million (for each state) in the ICMR tracking website but saw you post 40K tests in Maharashtra as opposed to 13K tests in TN.
 
It's not about food and shelter for them anymore.

Right or wrong.....when you make a promise and then go back on it, people feel betrayed. These people are frustrated. Mentally shot. They waited for 21 days. Now they are asked to wait for another 19 days.

To put it in perspective, we people sitting at our home and still losing our minds over this. Imagine the poor stuck in some place and asked to remain put.

It's a tough situation.

If I were them, I wouldn't be rational too.

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By the way, is there any link that I can use to check how many tests are done in each state? I mean I can see test per million (for each state) in the ICMR tracking website but saw you post 40K tests in Maharashtra as opposed to 13K tests in TN.

https://www.covid19india.org
Click on the state and you can check the number test done by the state, some state information are not given like Telenagana and Laddakh, WB is hiding data so their information is also not correct, others you can check it
 
It's not about food and shelter for them anymore.

Right or wrong.....when you make a promise and then go back on it, people feel betrayed. These people are frustrated. Mentally shot. They waited for 21 days. Now they are asked to wait for another 19 days.

To put it in perspective, we people sitting at our home and still losing our minds over this. Imagine the poor stuck in some place and asked to remain put.

It's a tough situation.

If I were them, I wouldn't be rational too.

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By the way, is there any link that I can use to check how many tests are done in each state? I mean I can see test per million (for each state) in the ICMR tracking website but saw you post 40K tests in Maharashtra as opposed to 13K tests in TN.

https://www.covid19india.org/
Here scroll down. You can see the tests done
 

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[MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] yeah agree with u,
Missing home is quite common, I am missing it too, I can understand with my wife being pregnant ,bleeding going on, and there is high chances of miscarriage.
 
[MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] yeah agree with u,
Missing home is quite common, I am missing it too, I can understand with my wife being pregnant ,bleeding going on, and there is high chances of miscarriage.

Oh dear..... :(

I truly hope it goes all alright.

Where are you put up right now? And where's your family?
 
Oh dear..... :(

I truly hope it goes all alright.

Where are you put up right now? And where's your family?
Well I am in Goa, posted here, wife is in Gorakhpur, my home is in Lucknow,dont know what will happen, doctor have done all the test, given her medicine,injections and has asked her to wait for 4 to 6 days,and then they will do detailed analysis if bleeding doesn't stop .
Actually they are waiting for blood reports also and according to ultrasound child heartbeat is very slow
 
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Well I am in Goa, posted here, wife is in Gorakhpur, my home is in Lucknow,dont know what will happen, doctor have done all the test, given her medicine,injections and has asked her to wait for 4 to 6 days,and then they will do detailed analysis if bleeding doesn't stop .
Actually they are waiting for blood reports also and according to ultrasound child heartbeat is very slow

Ahh fudge!! Sorry to hear that!! Hope your wife and kid recover quickly.
 
I hope the people of India overcome this corona virus. The impact on the poor is disheartening. We as people are with good ration, some income security and in the comfort of our homes.

I hope these poor people are appropriately managed by the government in a dignified manner.
 
Well I am in Goa, posted here, wife is in Gorakhpur, my home is in Lucknow,dont know what will happen, doctor have done all the test, given her medicine,injections and has asked her to wait for 4 to 6 days,and then they will do detailed analysis if bleeding doesn't stop .
Actually they are waiting for blood reports also and according to ultrasound child heartbeat is very slow

Sorry to hear brother. Think positively and hopefully everything turns out good :)
 
Well I am in Goa, posted here, wife is in Gorakhpur, my home is in Lucknow,dont know what will happen, doctor have done all the test, given her medicine,injections and has asked her to wait for 4 to 6 days,and then they will do detailed analysis if bleeding doesn't stop .
Actually they are waiting for blood reports also and according to ultrasound child heartbeat is very slow

I am soo sorry to hear it brother.

God will take care of everything.

Stay positive.
 
From what I hear...they thought with other states not locked down, they would be able to go back.

Aditya Thackerey is in favour of them going back.

He is stupid, virus has reached the slums of Mumbai, if they returned this will cause tragedy of highest order.
People are already hiding detail, one returned from TJ and another from Saudi hided their travelling history and have been tested positive, 100 doctors and nurses, healthworkers being quarantined because they didn't told the truth weather they have travelling history on not, doctors on this hunch did the test and they were found positive and two hospital being closed in Lucknow, don't know how many they have already infected
Already happend same in Basti at least 15 days back where person hided the traveling history and infected 15 persons before his deatg there also a hospital was closed .
 
Well I am in Goa, posted here, wife is in Gorakhpur, my home is in Lucknow,dont know what will happen, doctor have done all the test, given her medicine,injections and has asked her to wait for 4 to 6 days,and then they will do detailed analysis if bleeding doesn't stop .
Actually they are waiting for blood reports also and according to ultrasound child heartbeat is very slow

Very sorry to hear that. May god give you the strength to pass these turbulent times. Even if the virus ends, you two have a rough time ahead still (I pray not to). My thoughts are with you and your family.
 
Well I am in Goa, posted here, wife is in Gorakhpur, my home is in Lucknow,dont know what will happen, doctor have done all the test, given her medicine,injections and has asked her to wait for 4 to 6 days,and then they will do detailed analysis if bleeding doesn't stop .
Actually they are waiting for blood reports also and according to ultrasound child heartbeat is very slow

Guys like you are real fighters. Everything will be alright bro.
 
Thanks everybody for prayers, I am just trying to divert my mind by watching Netflix and Hotstar or messaging on pakpassion.
Hoping everything goes well
 
Shortly after the Mumbai Police launched a lathi charge to disperse hundreds of protesting migrant workers near Bandra railway station who defied a lockdown to get a ride home in other states, Maharashtra Tourism Minister Aaditya Thackeray said the Centre and states are facing a Catch-22 situation.

“The centre has taken immediate cognizance of the issue and is assisting the State actively. We understand the catch 22 situation centre and states face. I’m thankful to PM & HM for understanding the situation, while trying to ensure the safety of home states of migrants,” he tweeted.

“The migrant labour issue persists everywhere. Even as we house more than 6 lakh migrant labour, with breakfast lunch and dinner, the Union and State Govts are coordinating on further relief for the same. We will continue to ensure the comfort of all migrant labour in our camps,” he said in another tweet.

The mass gathering in the middle of a lockdown to check the spread of coronavirus also threw social distancing out of the window.

Union home minister Amit Shah had called Maharashtra chief minister Uddhav Thackeray and expressed concern over the Bandra gathering. Shah stressed that such events weaken India’s fight against coronavirus and the administration needs to stay vigilant to avoid such incidents.

Before the “Catch-22” tweet, Aaditya Thackeray had blamed the Centre for the situation leading to the lathi charge and sought a “mutual road map” to help the workers reach home in different states.

The trouble began hours after Prime Minister Narendra Modi announced an extension of the coronavirus-enforced lockdown till May 3. Hundreds of migrant workers, mostly daily wage earners, headed for the Bandra railway station in the afternoon demanding transport to return to their native places.

“The current situation in Bandra, now dispersed or even the rioting in Surat is a result of the union government not being able to take a call on arranging a way back home migrant labour. They don’t want food or shelter, they want to go back home,” Thackeray had tweeted in one of his first reactions.

He also said that the state government had raised the issue of enabling the workers to return home.

“A mutual road map set by Union Govt will largely help migrant labour to reach home from one state to another safely and efficiently. Time and again this issue has been raised with the centre,” he said in another tweet.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...andra-clash/story-2MErGUXPPXnVmQ7zZjaeJJ.html
 
Well I am in Goa, posted here, wife is in Gorakhpur, my home is in Lucknow,dont know what will happen, doctor have done all the test, given her medicine,injections and has asked her to wait for 4 to 6 days,and then they will do detailed analysis if bleeding doesn't stop .
Actually they are waiting for blood reports also and according to ultrasound child heartbeat is very slow

We hope and pray for the wellbeing of you and family bro.
 
Well I am in Goa, posted here, wife is in Gorakhpur, my home is in Lucknow,dont know what will happen, doctor have done all the test, given her medicine,injections and has asked her to wait for 4 to 6 days,and then they will do detailed analysis if bleeding doesn't stop .
Actually they are waiting for blood reports also and according to ultrasound child heartbeat is very slow

Inshallah things will get better, hang in there.
 
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Hope everything will be fine for you, Navdeep.

You'll definitely reunite with your family shortly. Have faith in almighty God.
 
Nah. Wish I had the time, energy and drive to be in the media. They let off people too easy.



I never said I am ok with them.

I said what they fact check, they fact check correctly (it's not like they completely ignore left wing claims).

If you have sources that fact checks ALL left wing claims, I would love to hear about that.



The good old the "left gave to right" song and dance.

Irrelevant.

Btw, Arnab being a **** of the earth is due to him being a **** of the earth.

If I were championing left wing biases in the past, then you may have a point.



If you keep peddling lies, then it's hard to quote you.

Not like people quote NDTV at every instance.

One is accredited.
It's quoted by all sources.
It does its job.

So just cos they have left biases doesn't mean their work and all those who quote them are wrong.



Too bad that fact check claims aren't being debunked lol.

They are not important enough to be debunked. Lol. They are getting banged on the social media for their bias and they arent mainstream to have any mass effect.
 
He is stupid, virus has reached the slums of Mumbai, if they returned this will cause tragedy of highest order.
People are already hiding detail, one returned from TJ and another from Saudi hided their travelling history and have been tested positive, 100 doctors and nurses, healthworkers being quarantined because they didn't told the truth weather they have travelling history on not, doctors on this hunch did the test and they were found positive and two hospital being closed in Lucknow, don't know how many they have already infected
Already happend same in Basti at least 15 days back where person hided the traveling history and infected 15 persons before his deatg there also a hospital was closed .

I view it a bit differently.

Obviously either decision is tough and has its challenges.

Say May 3 comes and cases explode in India. What then?

Do we keep these lockdowns for another month and ask these workers to stay put for 70 days? Where does it end?

If that's going to happen, might as well send them packing, quarantine them in their state, and after 14 days, let them go back to their villages.
 
I view it a bit differently.

Obviously either decision is tough and has its challenges.

Say May 3 comes and cases explode in India. What then?

Do we keep these lockdowns for another month and ask these workers to stay put for 70 days? Where does it end?

If that's going to happen, might as well send them packing, quarantine them in their state, and after 14 days, let them go back to their villages.

I agree with you on putting them in quarantine before sending them home, I was talking about if they were directly send to home.
My only problem if these workers breaks quarantine then what will happen they are already gathering and staging protest at large, Delhi migrants were put into some sort of quarantine and they were quite well behaved, they followed order.
I am all for sending them home, but there is huge risk because they are coming from Mumbai and Gujarat so all the concerned states should first insure what they have to do before they start exchanging workers.
 
I view it a bit differently.

Obviously either decision is tough and has its challenges.

Say May 3 comes and cases explode in India. What then?

Do we keep these lockdowns for another month and ask these workers to stay put for 70 days? Where does it end?

If that's going to happen, might as well send them packing, quarantine them in their state, and after 14 days, let them go back to their villages.

Frankly these political agendas masquerading as concerns should stop. The government has bungled a number of measures but locking down cities and stopping free movement of people is something being seen across the world. The government has already announced that certain areas and sectors of the economy will be opened up after the 20th. Don’t understand the reason for grandstanding when there is enough information in this thread itself about what the government plans and hopes to achieve.
 
I agree with you on putting them in quarantine before sending them home, I was talking about if they were directly send to home.
My only problem if these workers breaks quarantine then what will happen they are already gathering and staging protest at large, Delhi migrants were put into some sort of quarantine and they were quite well behaved, they followed order.
I am all for sending them home, but there is huge risk because they are coming from Mumbai and Gujarat so all the concerned states should first insure what they have to do before they start exchanging workers.
How are poor states supposed to build up and host quarantine centres? How many people in 1 center? How many people migrating back to each state? What if a few are infected and they end up migrating everyone else in the train? It’s a logistical nightmare and there is a reason why smaller developed countries in Europe are not attempting it and even a hardline dictator state like China did not attempt it.
 
I agree with you on putting them in quarantine before sending them home, I was talking about if they were directly send to home.
My only problem if these workers breaks quarantine then what will happen they are already gathering and staging protest at large, Delhi migrants were put into some sort of quarantine and they were quite well behaved, they followed order.
I am all for sending them home, but there is huge risk because they are coming from Mumbai and Gujarat so all the concerned states should first insure what they have to do before they start exchanging workers.

Considering whole nation is locked down now, quarantine in new state won't be a big deal.

Issue is what if every migrant starts drama now.

All in all...it's a mess.

One of the situations where I won't question either decision. It's a tough call.

They have to let these people go on May 3 for sure or else they will riot.
 
Frankly these political agendas masquerading as concerns should stop. The government has bungled a number of measures but locking down cities and stopping free movement of people is something being seen across the world. The government has already announced that certain areas and sectors of the economy will be opened up after the 20th. Don’t understand the reason for grandstanding when there is enough information in this thread itself about what the government plans and hopes to achieve.

lol.....again your post would have validity if I attacked the government.

But I didn't.

What you call agenda....I call empathy.

What the government plans & hopes to achieve doesn't necessary mean migrants from corona prone Maharashtra will get to leave. May or may not happen. Also decision lies with Maha government too.

Workers don't give a hoot about left wing or right wing. They just wanna go home.
 
How are poor states supposed to build up and host quarantine centres? How many people in 1 center? How many people migrating back to each state? What if a few are infected and they end up migrating everyone else in the train? It’s a logistical nightmare and there is a reason why smaller developed countries in Europe are not attempting it and even a hardline dictator state like China did not attempt it.

Yeah your point is also correct, it is very tough call no matter what decision government take
 
Well I am in Goa, posted here, wife is in Gorakhpur, my home is in Lucknow,dont know what will happen, doctor have done all the test, given her medicine,injections and has asked her to wait for 4 to 6 days,and then they will do detailed analysis if bleeding doesn't stop .
Actually they are waiting for blood reports also and according to ultrasound child heartbeat is very slow

Sorry to hear that bud. Hope things get better for you soon.
 
lol.....again your post would have validity if I attacked the government.

But I didn't.

What you call agenda....I call empathy.

What the government plans & hopes to achieve doesn't necessary mean migrants from corona prone Maharashtra will get to leave. May or may not happen. Also decision lies with Maha government too.

Workers don't give a hoot about left wing or right wing. They just wanna go home.

Rationality should not be sacrificed at the altar of empathy. Everyone here is empathetic to the plight of migrants.

This lockdown has disproportionately impacted the poor, but if the virus spreads they will be the ones to die too. In the absence of a cure, lockdown and social distancing are the only measures the government has to beat the virus. And that’s not unique to India but is seen across the globe. Stating impractical things like send the migrants to quarantine centres and then onwards probably wins you imaginary kudos on an anonymous Internet forum, but makes 0 sense.
 
Migrants trying to get out, because our foresighted government allowed booking train tickets starting April 14. And then voila, extended the lockdown last minute again, leaving them vulnerable to rumour mongering and police laathis

Maha govt had declared extension till 30th april 2 days before Modi.

Rumours were spread that trains are starting. A group of people led by a anti CAA protestor has already been arrested for this. But he may only be a pawn.
 
Maha govt had declared extension till 30th april 2 days before Modi.

Rumours were spread that trains are starting. A group of people led by a anti CAA protestor has already been arrested for this. But he may only be a pawn.

Yes read that. Still very surprising how he managed to gather such a huge crowd without the authorities knowing. Could be more people involved if this is true
 
Rationality should not be sacrificed at the altar of empathy. Everyone here is empathetic to the plight of migrants.

This lockdown has disproportionately impacted the poor, but if the virus spreads they will be the ones to die too. In the absence of a cure, lockdown and social distancing are the only measures the government has to beat the virus. And that’s not unique to India but is seen across the globe. Stating impractical things like send the migrants to quarantine centres and then onwards probably wins you imaginary kudos on an anonymous Internet forum, but makes 0 sense.

No one is sacrificing rationality at the altar of empathy.

If you cared to check my first post about this, you would see me talking about them staying put. This whole allowing them to move was not my idea but Maha govt idea (who wanted to collaborate with centre). I said if quarantine is done, I wouldn't blame either decision.

First it was political agenda. Now imaginary brownie points (like seriously lol). Any other assumptions left?

If I wanna say anything, I will say it. I won't be sneaky about it lol.
 
Well I am in Goa, posted here, wife is in Gorakhpur, my home is in Lucknow,dont know what will happen, doctor have done all the test, given her medicine,injections and has asked her to wait for 4 to 6 days,and then they will do detailed analysis if bleeding doesn't stop .
Actually they are waiting for blood reports also and according to ultrasound child heartbeat is very slow
My prayers are with you, God willing everything will be fine.
 
Looks like india has started to control the virus and probably next lockdown will bring down the numbers drastically . Fingers crossed

We have now realised looking at just active cases is not a good indication, on how the curve is behaving . Doing a calculation of active cases v/s tests is a good indication however

Doing some quick calculations as of today on testing to active cases;

India ~4% , 4 percent test positive and rest negative

Usa ~17%
Uk ~20%
Italy ~10%
Spain ~14%
Australia ~1%
Pakistan ~ 6%

So this needs to be actively monitored to see how the numbers change in next week

the active cases to testing ratio has started decreasing, very encouraging and positive outlook. It’s standing at 3.97% now
Again this week is crucial to efforts that have been put by the brave medical fraternity until now
 
India releases new guidelines for extended lockdown

A day after the lockdown was extended to 3 May in India, new guidelines from the Ministry of Home Affairs have been relased.

They say that all agriculture and farming activities will be allowed after 20 April.

Public transport, flights and train services will continue to be suspended except for those carrying health and emergency workers.

Schools and universities too will remain closed as well as all religious places of worship and sports facilities.

Hospitals and health services will function as usual.
 
India to ease farming restrictions but travel remains banned

A day after extending a nationwide lockdown to 3 May, India has relaxed restrictions on farming, banking and public works.

The new rules - which will come into effect on Monday - are expected to ease the supply chain and alleviate the impact on the economy.

Under the new guidelines, the government has said agricultural businesses can open. These include dairy, aquaculture, tea, coffee and rubber plantations as well as shops selling farming products.

Public works programmes, which are a crucial source of employment for daily-wage earners, will also reopen while following social distancing norms.

But heavy travel restrictions remain in place, including no train or flight services and all public gathering - social, political or religious - are still banned.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Breaking?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Breaking</a> | Tablighi menace continues. A Tablighi threatened & harassed female doctors in Delhi. <a href="https://t.co/kkxhY5y1MI">pic.twitter.com/kkxhY5y1MI</a></p>— TIMES NOW (@TimesNow) <a href="https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/1250279122942578688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
No one is sacrificing rationality at the altar of empathy.

If you cared to check my first post about this, you would see me talking about them staying put. This whole allowing them to move was not my idea but Maha govt idea (who wanted to collaborate with centre). I said if quarantine is done, I wouldn't blame either decision.

First it was political agenda. Now imaginary brownie points (like seriously lol). Any other assumptions left?

If I wanna say anything, I will say it. I won't be sneaky about it lol.

I hear that a lot. Once again what can we buy from these brownie points? If any of these intolerant and sensitive souls who can't even take opinions different to theirs can tell please? It's like when they have nothing else left to counter your argument they start saying these things lol.

Can't we say the same about them that they are paid by BJP? But no we shouldn't say that because then there will be no difference between us and them. :inti
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Breaking?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Breaking</a> | Tablighi menace continues. A Tablighi threatened & harassed female doctors in Delhi. <a href="https://t.co/kkxhY5y1MI">pic.twitter.com/kkxhY5y1MI</a></p>— TIMES NOW (@TimesNow) <a href="https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/1250279122942578688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Times Now? Seriously?
 
A day after extending a nationwide lockdown, India has relaxed restrictions on farming, banking and public works, but transport services and most businesses remain closed.

The rules which come into effect on 20 April, are expected to ease the supply chain and alleviate economic impact.

The lockdown which began on 25 March to contain the spread of the coronavirus will now end on 3 May.

India has reported 9,756 active cases and 377 deaths so far.

Although the country recorded its first case at the end of January, the numbers began to spike only by early March.

It was one of the first countries to impose heavy travel restrictions, including suspending most visas and eventually stopping all international flights. It also banned trains and flights within the country when the lockdown began.

But the continued restrictions will likely prove to be a challenge to implement. The news of the extension on Tuesday prompted thousands of migrant workers to take to the streets in some cities, demanding they be allowed to return home to their villages.

Apart from the restrictions on both international and domestic travel, schools, colleges, malls, cinema halls and most businesses - except those providing essential services such as groceries and pharmacies will remain shut. All public gatherings - social, political or religious - are also still banned.

But the government has said it will allow agricultural businesses to open.

This includes dairy, aquaculture, tea, coffee and rubber plantations, as well as shops selling farming products - such as fertilisers or machinery.

Public works programmes, which are a crucial source of employment for daily-wage earners, will also reopen, but under strict instructions to follow social distancing norms.

Trucks, trains and planes carrying cargo will also be allowed to operate as India has faced a supply crunch in recent weeks with goods being stuck at state borders.

Banks will also reopen, as will government centres distributing social security benefits and pensions.

Who do the new rules affect?

Most of the rules affect those involved in farming or businesses that support it. Agriculture employs more than 50% of Indians, and with the winter crop just harvested, getting food from the villages to the cities has become important to avoid shortages.

E-commerce will also benefit as courier services will restart from 20 April - and once restrictions on cargo are lifted, many goods that were in short supply are likely to be available again. This is especially likely to help small or boutique retailers who rely on online orders for food items or other products such as tea and coffee.

The self-employed - such as plumbers, electricians and carpenters - will also be allowed to work, which will be welcome news to people working from home.

And roadside eateries on highways will also reopen - with social distancing norms in place - so lorry drivers transporting cargo have regular access to food.

But the government has said none of these new rules will apply in what they call "containment zones". State and district officials will actively take steps to identify virus hotspots and demarcate such zones, which will, in effect be sealed off, allowing only emergency vehicles or police to enter or leave these areas. And the new rules will not apply in these areas.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-52290761
 
Brilliant interview! So articulate.


Sorry, this interview is very bad, doctor is talking about mass genocide of highest order even assuming that no elders will get the disease.
I am little bit good at maths and statistics, when people say it don't affect younger generation, only 1 percent or less than one percent are dying in less than 60 age group,what they don't realize that one means per hundred, that may look low but is not low in big picture.
With 90 percent of Indian less than 60 age group, it will still kill more than10 millions of people easily and I am being conservative with numbers and assuming that no elder ever get the disease.
Herd immunity is the natural selection but it will come with price, a huge price.
 
Sorry, this interview is very bad, doctor is talking about mass genocide of highest order even assuming that no elders will get the disease.
I am little bit good at maths and statistics, when people say it don't affect younger generation, only 1 percent or less than one percent are dying in less than 60 age group,what they don't realize that one means per hundred, that may look low but is not low in big picture.
With 90 percent of Indian less than 60 age group, it will still kill more than10 millions of people easily and I am being conservative with numbers and assuming that no elder ever get the disease.
Herd immunity is the natural selection but it will come with price, a huge price.

This is what everyone will end up doing anyway, one way or the other. The other option is to lock everything down three weeks, three weeks down the line, on and on and on, for a year or two?
 
One important gain of the lockdown in India, perhaps the only one which will make a difference in the endgame, is that people have become aware of the great danger.
 
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