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Could Jasprit Bumrah make it into Pakistan's all-time XI, assuming he were a Pakistani cricketer?

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Personally, I believe Bumrah is the greatest fast bowler of all time from Asia. However, I want to check with esteem posters in this site, whether he gets into all time Pak team as per their own assessment.

Jasprit Bumrah in 45 test matches got 205 wickets at a staggering avg of 19. This is better than most Pakistani bowlers and I think on merit he deserves a place in the team. Below will be my all time Pak XI:

Hanif Mohammed

Saeed Anwar

Javed Miandad

Younis Khan

Mohammed Yusuf

Misbah ul Haq

Imran Khan

Wasim Akram

Saqlain Mushtaq

Fazal Mehmood

Jasprit Bumrah
 
Jasprit Bumrah is good no doubt but where are Mohammad Asif, Waqar Younis and Rawalpindi Express here?
Personally, I believe Bumrah is the greatest fast bowler of all time from Asia. However, I want to check with esteem posters in this site, whether he gets into all time Pak team as per their own assessment.

Jasprit Bumrah in 45 test matches got 205 wickets at a staggering avg of 19. This is better than most Pakistani bowlers and I think on merit he deserves a place in the team. Below will be my all time Pak XI:

Hanif Mohammed

Saeed Anwar

Javed Miandad

Younis Khan

Mohammed Yusuf

Misbah ul Haq

Imran Khan

Wasim Akram

Saqlain Mushtaq

Fazal Mehmood

Jasprit Bumrah
 
He would definitely get in to the line-up, and then get called immediately.
All our resident Indian friends know this to be the truth.
 
He probably edges out Waqar or Fazal Mahmood. Might just be recency bias though. Waqar played long enough past his peak that the younger of us remember older Waqar a bit more than younger wrecking ball Waqar. Bumrah hasn't yet played long enough to know if that will happen to him also.

Probably fairer to assess when he has 300 test wickets or has played nearer a decade.
 
Bumrah is joint second greatest fast bowler of all time along with Malcom Marshal and only second to Sydney Barnes. It is hilarious you compare him with Asif, Waqar and Akhtar.
Not even in distance to Mcgrath
 
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Bumrah hasn't yet played long enough to know if that will happen to him also.

Anything can happen, but chances are very slim for having 1 5-fers in 40-50 tests. I don't recall anyone playing so many tests with 1 5-fer.

Waqar during his decline:

waqar_after_1994.png
 
What next can Bumrah break into WI side of late 70s & 80s

Greenidge
Haynes
Viv
Kalicharran
Lloyd
Sobers
Dujon
Roberts
Holding
Bumrah
Garner
-‐------------

Selected Bumrah ahead of Marshall he deserves it :dada
 
That looks unbelievable for a bowler like Waqar. A great decline indeed

Some fans argue that his stellar record pre-injury compensates for 1 5-fers in 40-50 tests.

I don't think it does. Against all non-minnows, Waqar had an elite record against WI/NZ in total 10-15 tests. I am picking less than 20 avg for elite output pre-injury to compensate for a very ordinary output after injury.

How much mileage a bowler can get for an elite record in 10-15 tests against non-minnows in entire career? I don't think it compensates for a very ordinary record in 40-50 tests.

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Bumrah would be first pick, then Imran .. Akram and Akhtar.

India finally gets their first decent pace bowler ever, and he also happens to be the potential GOAT. Love it. Remember when pakistanis used to mock Kumble as india's best pace bowler ? 😁
 
Yes, he would. Why is Misbah included in Op list and not picked any keeper?

Anwar
Hanif
Younis
Miandad
Inzamam
Yousuf
Rizwan(wkt)
Imran(c)
Wasim
Saqlain
Bumrah

Greatest Asian test team of all time in my opinion.
 
Yes sure, why not... Bumrah would make it easily. Bumrah, Wasim, Imran. Top bowling lineup...
Imran at 7
Kapil at 8
Wasim at 9
Bumrah at 10
Waqar/shami at 11

Who will beat this team? From non Asia

Remember Asian pacers don't get to stat pad in seaming tracks like sena pitches. So reduce averages of Asian pacers by 3 points easily.
 
Imran at 7
Kapil at 8
Wasim at 9
Bumrah at 10
Waqar/shami at 11

Who will beat this team? From non Asia

Remember Asian pacers don't get to stat pad in seaming tracks like sena pitches. So reduce averages of Asian pacers by 3 points easily.
Legendary line up. pure carnage all of these guys are for any opposition... Dream Bowling line up from Asia.
 
I find this thread disrespectful to Bumrah and coming from a Bharatiya it’s a disgrace. Bumrah is a legit GOAT contender as a test fast bowler which means he’s beyond such discussions already. You wouldn’t make a thread about whether Tendulkar will make an All Time Sri Lanka test XI because who even cares when he’s already GOAT batsman.
 
Legendary line up. pure carnage all of these guys are for any opposition... Dream Bowling line up from Asia.
Sorry I forgot a spinner.

I mean take your pick. I guess murali ashwin jaddu(if you need a batsman who can bowl)
Saqlain etc.
 
Bumrah will not even make it to the Pakistan XI even if it turned into Pakistan 50.

What a preposterous thread.
 
Yes.

He and Wasim will take the new ball. Imran will be a one change bowler. Saqlain will be the frontline spinner supported by leg spinner Mushtaq Mohammad.

Waqar and Shoaib will be net bowlers or may chip in for one off test when the main pacers require rest.
 
Not if Pakistani bowlers were allowed to use bottle caps.
Oh zip it with this nonsense, even Dravid and Sachin were caught tampering. Inds creating hoo haa and threatened match referee and Teenda got away with it. Everyone did it, it was just convenient to pick on Pakistanis.
 
No way, his run up is to short and bowling action is all wrong it as has to be CORRECTED first!
 
Waqar declined by the time I started watching cricket. And even numbers doesn't take him near to other Greats. But seen few videos of his bowling. I like his rhythm while bowling.

For what separates Bumrah is along with his bowling, his ability to understand the batsman and the situation. You cant teach those things and player has to develop that to become more effective.

Thats why Bumrah is the hardest to hit in the current generation. He has both the best SR and best Average in bowling in his generation and that separates him from other greats.

I watched Wasim’s interviews and by far he has the best cricketing mind in Pakistan from what I have heard.

Bumrah, Wasim, Asif and Ashwin would be my picks from what I have seen in India-Pakistan combined 11.

Haven't watched Imran, Akhtar is too volatile and gets demotivated easily. Zaheer and Shami misses out as I feel Asif had one of the best swing bowling from Asia post - 2000’s.

I will probably use Asif and Akram as opening pair in a test and then use Bumrah - He is so good that he can have the same impact even at first change unlike others, such a trump card. And Ashwin for his cricketing mind.
 
Oh zip it with this nonsense, even Dravid and Sachin were caught tampering. Inds creating hoo haa and threatened match referee and Teenda got away with it. Everyone did it, it was just convenient to pick on Pakistanis.
Sachin wasn’t. Icc exonerated him
 
Yes.

He and Wasim will take the new ball. Imran will be a one change bowler. Saqlain will be the frontline spinner supported by leg spinner Mushtaq Mohammad.

Waqar and Shoaib will be net bowlers or may chip in for one off test when the main pacers require rest.
Abdul Qadir was a much better leg spinner bowler (in fact, the best that Pakistan has produced in its history) than Mushtaq Mohammad who was primarily a batting all rounder. Hell, even Mushtaq Ahmed was a better leg spinner bowler than Mushtaq Mohammad.
 
What is cope about it?They are T20 trophies.What ODI trophies or test trophies has Bhumrah won?No CT, no ODI WC, no WTC. COPE!
At least he won t20 trophies, the stat padders you support, babar, rizwan, waqar, akhtar, have won nothing.

Now be a good troll and move the goal posts again like you always do.
 
At least he won t20 trophies, the stat padders you support, babar, rizwan, waqar, akhtar, have won nothing.

Now be a good troll and move the goal posts again like you always do.
Lies, Babar won CT 2017 - an ODI ICC tournament win something Bhumrah cannot even dream about. Now be a good troll and lie more like you always do.
 
He is good, but he is way overhyped by the indians as he is the only good fast bowler they have had in years so for them he is wasim akram.

He takes a wicket, indians tend to go gaga and do over analysis of how he ran in, delivered his ball, bought his arm in, his stride, foot mark etc.

Back in 2021, indians overhyped shaheen after the world t20, and than after he sucked they realized that oh look shaheens head is not even straight when landing.

As for whether Bumrah would had made the Pakistani team. He would had made it but he would had been out of the team before playing 20 games.

Reason being we dont know how to strategize in Australia, we love to play injured bowlers till they are dead and Aqib Javed made a living changing bowling actions.

The first step is the bowling action stage. Aqib Javed is one of the pioneers of changing the bowling action of bowlers. Alot of our bowlers that got natural advantage due to their bowling actions had to change it because Aqib Javed would head the NCA and he would assume an injury scare would shortern the bowling career. So Bumrah would have had a bowling action change, lose his pace and swing and would had toiled in domestic cricket.

But lets assume if he somehow passed the Aqib Javed test, than the next stage was being bowled to the ground. Im not sure if it was wt2022 or wc 2023 when Bumrah was injured or rehab and India had to make the hard decision of resting him. They did so, he regained his health and is still bowling well. Meanwhile, Shaheen Afridi was half fit, but we still played him as we assumed he would destroy India and the guy just broke down like a truck and never recovered.

Thirdly, one single Australia tour with the Pakistani team was always enough to end a fast bowlers career. We tend to play in Australia without any strategy. Our tours are two or three games only, and by the 2nd game we learn what to do, the tour is over. We have had pacers like Abdur Rauf and Mohammad Sami that were good pacers, were better than Bumrah. But since we sucked and had no strategy in Australia, those bowlrrs never performed the way they should had and were discarded

So Bumrah might have played but would never have had a career here in pakistan
 
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