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"Could question the need for changes, it was working well with Sarfaraz at the helm" : Mickey Arthur

Mickey Arthur speaking on Straight Drive after the 2nd T20I against Australia:

"Babar did what Babar does, but very impressed with Iftikhar. Pakistan are looking for a finisher and Ifti did a fantastic job and got Pakistan back in the game. He surprised me a bit, he scored off both front and back foot which was impressive. He hits from a very stable base which allows him to get his power through the ball. He was very impressive and I'm really happy with that performance"

"The bowlers did as well as could be expected, the batters were I think 20 runs short. As Steve Smith said, around 170 was par"

"Pakistan had no substantial partnership through the innings, no one really helped Babar. Thank God for Ifti at the back end as he finished as well as could ever be expected. Losing key wickets at crucial times is something they'll have to look at"

"Despite getting the openers out early, they had still scored quite quick and given the innings impetus. Getting Smith out after that was key, to expose the middle-order a bit more"

"Iftikhar was the biggest plus for Pakistan. It's been well documented that Pakistan have been looking for power hitters, guys who can finish an innings. If Iftikhar keeps this up, he could be that guy. He showed the ability to play the short balls, he pulled well and hit powerfully down the ground"

"The rest of the batsmen weren't good enough. Fakhar Zaman failing at the top leads to that. Rizzi is showing some promise but the ability to keep rotating the strike is missing. Haris Sohail played out of character, I'm of the opinion he should be there when the spinners are bowling"

"It's worth sending Asif Ali up the order if Fakhar Zaman falls early. Clearly 150 isn't good enough, let him go and play. At the moment, there's too much responsibility on Babar"

"Captaincy hasn't affected his batting and that's a good thing. That'll be tested as he gets more into his captaincy, he's on a honeymoon period right now. I like the way he's hitting the ball nice and late, that's key in Australia. His contact point is right under his eyes which allows him to open up the off-side. The other Pakistani batsmen are very anxious and getting out in front of them which leads to loss of shape, loss of power etc."

"I think Babar will be fine as captain, he'll figure it out. The first over should've gone to Amir, he's the leader"

"Iftikhar said they were targeting 180-190, that's dangerous. When you target a score, you end up thinking about that all the time and fall well short. If you lower that a bit, you pace yourself for that and then 1-2 big overs can get you to 180-185. A little shift in thinking. Aim a bit lower, what's par. If par is 165, aim for that and you'll probably end up getting more. If you aim big, you end up getting less because aiming big, you take more risks and those can be taken in the death overs. You can always catch up if you have wickets in hand and you have batsmen in"

"Mohammad Amir swung the ball, Irfan was OK, Shadab looked good. If Pakistan manage to get some more runs, Australia would've had to take risks against the likes of Shadab which would've possibly meant wickets. Pakistan need to look at that batting order"

"If I was in the dressing room, we'd have a brief chat. Tonight would be about lifting spirits and looking forward, and before the next training session, we'd do our review of this game and point out what we needed to work on, tweak game plans, etc"

"The dressing room will be hurting, they're very proud, they take a lot of pride in their performances as you'd expect. They need to have honest, mature performances which makes things positive going forward"

"I wonder how much of Babar's decision making is being dictated from the dressing room. I was always a coach who liked the bowler taking charge of his field, and then speak with the captain and they talk about the plan and field settings. Hopefully that's happening. Babar will be getting a load of advice. The main thing is that Babar needs to remain his own man, once he takes advice from too many quarters, he'll be put under pressure"

"I like that (Babar's reaction to Asif Ali). That's the honest conversation that needs to happen, Babar wasn't happy, there was a 2 on the previous ball if Asif is running hard. Babar is the man in form, he's looking to take charge, he needs to get back on strike. And then to get out on the next ball, that's criminal"

"The current run is beginning to develop into more of a blip... That's why one could question the need for all the change, because it's something that was working fairly well with Sarfaraz at the helm. This was the one format where we were going well. But they'll figure it out. T20 cricket is a momentum game, once you win a couple of games, the confidence will come back and once that happens, Pakistan will become a formidable unit again"

"You do need experience in the squad. The way you should select is you should have a gameplan and strategy that will win you a World Cup then select the players around that strategy, who will play those roles you require. Strategy first, players afterwards, clear role definition then back the players to create security"

"Sarfaraz was ahead of the game in T20 cricket. He captained unbelievably well in this format. His own form let him down but he captained exceptionally well. That's a lot of experience from behind the stumps that's suddenly gone out of the equation"

"If Mohammad Hafeez and Shoaib Malik are performing, they could be brought back. Certainly room for one of them, if you look at how 3-5 are playing. Hafeez did well for us in UAE against AUS/NZ and then we had Malik at 5 to finish innings with experience. He ran hard and had enough power to hit balls out of the ground so he played an important role. I'm sure those names will be discussed"

"If you replace Fakhar, you bring in Imam-ul-Haq whose game has gone to another level, he's been proficient in the other formats. His T20 game has got a lot better but if you put him at the top, it's more of the same with Imam, Haris and Rizwan who are all similar players. If you lose Babar early, you could get caught up a bit in terms of the scoring rate. Maybe you can get Iftikhar in up the order; I'd give Fakhar till the end of the series. You've gotta keep someone there who is different and taking pressure off Babar. You've got to get Haris there when the spinners are on. What the quicks will do with him is bowl bouncers and he'll duck them. I'd give him the license to come in and take on the spinners. I'd like to see Asif going in earlier too. If you do that, you can have Iftikhar finishing the innings which gives you a better balance"

"I'd play Hasnain, you need a right-armer and he'd replace Irfan. Hasnain brings a different angle"

"Against Australia, you need bowlers who can bring the ball back in specially to their right handers and not give them any room. The likes of Hasan Ali and Faheem Ashraf did that well in UAE. With Irfan and Wahab, the batsmen go deep in their crease and the angle of the ball is going across them so they can get a lot of runs towards the off-side"
 
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The cat is out of the bag!

This guy absolutely LOVED Sarfraz, Malik and other oldies. There's a reason he not only took Malik to the world cup, but also played him in the starting XI.

Where are all the Mickey Arthur fans who used to claim he's a visionary and a tactical genius? In love with Sarfraz, actually.

Glad the dark Mickey Arthur era is over.
 
Excellent analysis from Mickey.

He clearly doesn't rate Irfan :)) However I don't think it makes a difference where Asif Ali bats as he doesn't have the ability to build an innings.
 
Excellent analysis from Mickey.

Of course. :najam

Before Mickey Arthur was fired:

"Sarfraz, what an evil! Kick him out, NOW. Inzi is responsible for selecting Sarfraz and making us lose! Mickey doesn't rate him".

After Mickey Arthur got fired:

"Sarfraz was excellent. We'll defend Sarfraz just because Mickey is now rating Sarfraz".
 
:))) :))) :)))

The cat is out of the bag!

This guy absolutely LOVED Sarfraz, Malik and other oldies. There's a reason he not only took Malik to the world cup, but also played him in the starting XI.

Where are all the Mickey Arthur fans who used to claim he's a visionary and a tactical genius? In love with Sarfraz, actually.

Glad the dark Mickey Arthur era is over.

What about the oldies Misbah has picked. Don't be such a hypocrite. Are Irfan, Wahab, Imran Khan Sr all 5 year olds?
 
Good analysis from Mickey. The only things I disagree with are keeping Sarfraz as captain, and suggesting to bring Malik back.
 
Good analysis from Mickey. The only things I disagree with are keeping Sarfraz as captain, and suggesting to bring Malik back.

At least people will stop pretending now that Mickey Arthur did not love Malik + Sarfraz.
 
What about the oldies Misbah has picked. Don't be such a hypocrite. Are Irfan, Wahab, Imran Khan Sr all 5 year olds?

It's a strategic decision. I've already replied to this point earlier, don't be a broken record and go on the block list.

Only Irfan and IK sr are questionable selections out of dozen other excellent, revolutionary selections. Can you even imagine someone else sacking Malik, Hafeez and Sarfraz?

Then taking a brand new, full of youngsters pace attack to Australia?

It has never happened before. Only Misbah could do it.

They're keeping the young pace attack fresh and a surprise for the format that matters. T20s do not matter much.

So, focus on the positives, which are overwhelming, more than 90%. You're like a broken record, bitter kid, who keeps on crying about two questionable selections while ignoring the things he did never done before.
 
It's a strategic decision. I've already replied to this point earlier, don't be a broken record and go on the block list.

Only Irfan and IK sr are questionable selections out of dozen other excellent, revolutionary selections. Can you even imagine someone else sacking Malik, Hafeez and Sarfraz?

Then taking a brand new, full of youngsters pace attack to Australia?

It has never happened before. Only Misbah could do it.

They're keeping the young pace attack fresh and a surprise for the format that matters. T20s do not matter much.

So, focus on the positives, which are overwhelming, more than 90%. You're like a broken record, bitter kid, who keeps on crying about two questionable selections while ignoring the things he did never done before.

Why are they keeping Hasnain out then, he isn't in the test squad. Any one is an upgrade over this unfit Irfan.
 
Why are they keeping Hasnain out then, he isn't in the test squad. Any one is an upgrade over this unfit Irfan.

In the grand scheme of things, it does not matter. Hasnain hasn't done anything till now, he can't move the ball either, but he has a chance to learn and get better. Waqar wanted Irfan because of his height, things don't always work, it's a fun T20 format. They will make changes.

Now, don't be that bitter person, try to focus on the overwhelming positives. Ask yourself, the changes made by Misbah, would they have been made under anyone else? Mickey was in love with Sarfraz and Malik. He would have continued with them.

His strategy kept losing us Test matches. He didn't know how to utilize or pick spinners for the Tests, or allrounders.

Misbah is backing youngsters for not success, but making them learn. You think Naseem, et al can make us win Tests in Australia? No. But they'll learn a lot. Victory will be a bonus.

Now, the team is being rebuilt. It will take time. Don't get so impatient, and chill. We might have a settled side in 1 - 1.5 years.
 
:))) :))) :)))

The cat is out of the bag!

This guy absolutely LOVED Sarfraz, Malik and other oldies. There's a reason he not only took Malik to the world cup, but also played him in the starting XI.

Where are all the Mickey Arthur fans who used to claim he's a visionary and a tactical genius? In love with Sarfraz, actually.

Glad the dark Mickey Arthur era is over.

The dark Mickey era where we actually won a tournament. What has Misbah ever won us as captain or coach ?
 
The dark Mickey era where we actually won a tournament. What has Misbah ever won us as captain or coach ?

You mean a fluke? Okay.

We kept losing Tests, starting to lose even at home. You think that's okay? Became minnows in Tests.

We went on our longest losing streaks in ODIs. That's okay? We became used to "We're a proud team and hate losing". But kept losing.

Now to your question what we won: Beat IND in IND. Beat SA in SA (no other Asian team has done it till now). Won the Asia Cup. Became number #1 in Tests. Won more matches against the top 5 sides.

Now do I need to mention more achievements?
 
In the grand scheme of things, it does not matter. Hasnain hasn't done anything till now, he can't move the ball either, but he has a chance to learn and get better. Waqar wanted Irfan because of his height, things don't always work, it's a fun T20 format. They will make changes.

Now, don't be that bitter person, try to focus on the overwhelming positives. Ask yourself, the changes made by Misbah, would they have been made under anyone else? Mickey was in love with Sarfraz and Malik. He would have continued with them.

His strategy kept losing us Test matches. He didn't know how to utilize or pick spinners for the Tests, or allrounders.

Misbah is backing youngsters for not success, but making them learn. You think Naseem, et al can make us win Tests in Australia? No. But they'll learn a lot. Victory will be a bonus.

Now, the team is being rebuilt. It will take time. Don't get so impatient, and chill. We might have a settled side in 1 - 1.5 years.

Yes the youngster picks are a step forward. I'm not being bitter, I'm concerned. Irfan's height doesn't matter due to his pace. Many people have already said this. He is bowling mid 130s and it isn't very effective.

Wahab should never have been selected by Inzi, and Misbah shouldn't have stuck with him. Look at England, they are using their t20i series to test their youngsters, something Misbah should have done. It might not really test them for other formats, but it gives them international experience and they get used to the pressure of international cricket.
 
:))) :))) :)))

The cat is out of the bag!

This guy absolutely LOVED Sarfraz, Malik and other oldies. There's a reason he not only took Malik to the world cup, but also played him in the starting XI.

Where are all the Mickey Arthur fans who used to claim he's a visionary and a tactical genius? In love with Sarfraz, actually.

Glad the dark Mickey Arthur era is over.

The desperation is real.
 
It wasn’t working. Our number 1 ranking was an illusion. At no point during the 2016-2018 period were we the best T20 side in the world.

It was an average side that was making hay at a time when the proper teams weren’t giving two hoots about the format. T20 cricket at the international level loses significance when it is not the WT20 season.

Sarfraz and his so-called number 1 team were in for a massive reality check in the WT20 next year. It was going to be as humiliating as the Asia Cup last year.

We simply don’t have the caliber to compete with full-strength India, England or Australia.
 
^ but we need to point out the fact that Misbah is making things worse instead of steering the team in the right direction.
 
It wasn’t working. Our number 1 ranking was an illusion. At no point during the 2016-2018 period were we the best T20 side in the world.

It was an average side that was making hay at a time when the proper teams weren’t giving two hoots about the format. T20 cricket at the international level loses significance when it is not the WT20 season.

Sarfraz and his so-called number 1 team were in for a massive reality check in the WT20 next year. It was going to be as humiliating as the Asia Cup last year.

We simply don’t have the caliber to compete with full-strength India, England or Australia.

You're one of those who did look beyond our fake rankings, so have to give you credit for that.

"We're a proud team and hate losing". His sweet-talk and playing to the gallery, despite perpetual losses, was called out by you.

Anyway, we're only going to get better, and can agree to disagree on this. The first step to solving issues is realizing there's an issue. New management and Misbah knows that. Should have a better side by WT20.
 
^ but we need to point out the fact that Misbah is making things worse instead of steering the team in the right direction.
Give Misbah time before making these kind of judgements. Give him a year or two for him to build his team and we can judge then. Right now it's fresh changes and remnants of Mickey Arthur's team.
 
Give Misbah time before making these kind of judgements. Give him a year or two for him to build his team and we can judge then. Right now it's fresh changes and remnants of Mickey Arthur's team.

Yes, the dark Mickey Arthur era's effects won't fade away in such a short time. Team is being rebuilt and experiments will be done.

Mickey does want Malik and Sarfraz back. People in the PCB too want that.
 
You mean a fluke? Okay.

We kept losing Tests, starting to lose even at home. You think that's okay? Became minnows in Tests.

We went on our longest losing streaks in ODIs. That's okay? We became used to "We're a proud team and hate losing". But kept losing.

Now to your question what we won: Beat IND in IND. Beat SA in SA (no other Asian team has done it till now). Won the Asia Cup. Became number #1 in Tests. Won more matches against the top 5 sides.

Now do I need to mention more achievements?

Well, Misbah can't even fluke a single win, let alone a tournament. :yk
 
You're one of those who did look beyond our fake rankings, so have to give you credit for that.

"We're a proud team and hate losing". His sweet-talk and playing to the gallery, despite perpetual losses, was called out by you.

Anyway, we're only going to get better, and can agree to disagree on this. The first step to solving issues is realizing there's an issue. New management and Misbah knows that. Should have a better side by WT20.

Give Misbah time before making these kind of judgements. Give him a year or two for him to build his team and we can judge then. Right now it's fresh changes and remnants of Mickey Arthur's team.

ODIs and T20s are outside Misbah’s domain. He has no working understanding of the shorter formats - he doesn’t know how to construct a winning team and what tactics to employ.

His captaincy is all the proof anyone needs. He is not capable of taking Pakistan up a level in ODIs and T20s, but he can make things worse.

However, I am fairly certain we will start winning Tests in the UAE again. Mickey goofed up big time on that front.
 
Nothing was darker than the Limited Over era under Misbah. The Champions Trophy 2017 was a fluke but it still happened under Mickey.
 
Yes, the dark Mickey Arthur era's effects won't fade away in such a short time. Team is being rebuilt and experiments will be done.

Mickey does want Malik and Sarfraz back. People in the PCB too want that.

Nothing wrong with that. They are the reasons we qualified for Champion Trophy and improved our rankings after Misbah and his protege, Azhar Ali, left Pakistan at the bottom of the line.

We were proven world beater, qualified and won Champion Trophy, maintained consistency in T20 that is no longer the case now with Misbah at helm ——— AGAIN.
 
I would attribute the CT win to the fact that the rest of the world decided to over look a new look Pakistani team with Fakhar, Babar, Shadab, Imad, Hasan Ali and these players took full advantage of the novelty factor.

Unfortunately as has been the past tradition, these players did not take their games to the next level and coasted on whatever ability they had and thought the rest of the world will not acclimitize. The game has now become survival of the fittest, if you don't keep working on your skills, fitness and weak areas you will not survive.
 
Good analysis from Mickey. The only things I disagree with are keeping Sarfraz as captain, and suggesting to bring Malik back.

Why was Sarfaraz removed as T20 captain though? He was rightly taken out from Test and ODIs but he was successful as T20 captain and pretty much only had one bad series . He also led his team to the PSL title, he is probably the best T20 captain in Pakistan at least on paper.
 
It's a strategic decision. I've already replied to this point earlier, don't be a broken record and go on the block list.

Only Irfan and IK sr are questionable selections out of dozen other excellent, revolutionary selections. Can you even imagine someone else sacking Malik, Hafeez and Sarfraz?

Then taking a brand new, full of youngsters pace attack to Australia?

It has never happened before. Only Misbah could do it.

They're keeping the young pace attack fresh and a surprise for the format that matters. T20s do not matter much.

So, focus on the positives, which are overwhelming, more than 90%. You're like a broken record, bitter kid, who keeps on crying about two questionable selections while ignoring the things he did never done before.

Akmal, shehzad:irfan
 
I would attribute the CT win to the fact that the rest of the world decided to over look a new look Pakistani team with Fakhar, Babar, Shadab, Imad, Hasan Ali and these players took full advantage of the novelty factor.

Unfortunately as has been the past tradition, these players did not take their games to the next level and coasted on whatever ability they had and thought the rest of the world will not acclimitize. The game has now become survival of the fittest, if you don't keep working on your skills, fitness and weak areas you will not survive.

Biggest load of nonsense ever.

Going by this logic, I must ask why did Misbah's team (coached by Waqar) fall so short in the previous CT? Let me also remind you like the 2017 edition of the tournament, this was also held in England, yet Pakistan lost every single game.
 
Nothing was darker than the Limited Over era under Misbah. The Champions Trophy 2017 was a fluke but it still happened under Mickey.

I agree, I've watched Pakistan cricket since the 1999 World Cup and there is no doubt that in the last twenty years, Pakistan's darkest era in white ball cricket was under Misbah's captaincy between 2011 until 2015 World cup.

But the doom and gloom did not exactly stop there because he somehow managed to convince the PCB to bring Azhar Ali as captain, who didn't even warrant a place in Pakistan's ODI side. This pretty much sums up Misbah's lack of cricketing intelligence.
 
Biggest load of nonsense ever.

Going by this logic, I must ask why did Misbah's team (coached by Waqar) fall so short in the previous CT? Let me also remind you like the 2017 edition of the tournament, this was also held in England, yet Pakistan lost every single game.

Misbah had a much stronger bowling line up i.e. An inform Junaid Khan, Mohd Irfan (who was bowling at 140-148 km/hr and had a much less injury striken body at the time), a pre 15 degree and in form Hafeez and Ajmal. 4 quality bowlers in the line up.

The batting line up was filled with TTF's i.e. Imran Farhat, Hafeez, Kamran Akmal, Shoaib Malik, Asad Shafiq and then Umar Amin who was played lower down the order. It is no surprise that team failed.
 
Misbah had a much stronger bowling line up i.e. An inform Junaid Khan, Mohd Irfan (who was bowling at 140-148 km/hr and had a much less injury striken body at the time), a pre 15 degree and in form Hafeez and Ajmal. 4 quality bowlers in the line up.

The batting line up was filled with TTF's i.e. Imran Farhat, Hafeez, Kamran Akmal, Shoaib Malik, Asad Shafiq and then Umar Amin who was played lower down the order. It is no surprise that team failed.


Junaid Khan and Irfan in the 2013 CT were not better than Amir and Hasan Ali of the 2017 CT. As for the spinners, Hafeez and Ajmal were chucking it but ICC only decided to act a year later.

You've pointed out the deficiencies in the batting line-up of 2013 side but you have conveniently not disclosed who were responsible for these TTFs. It was none other than Misbah. Most of those players wouldn't have played if Mickey was coach. Although Sarfraz was a mediocre captain, he wasn't as awful as Misbah in ODIs.
 
Nothing was darker than the Limited Over era under Misbah. The Champions Trophy 2017 was a fluke but it still happened under Mickey.
All the time u said the same thing that 2017 was a fluke. Pak won against top teams in wc 2019 also, they did beat both finalists in the groups, which is not a fluke. They lost to Australia, India and Windies, it happens in a cwc. They lost to two good teams, windies loss was just bad day whr the batting collapsed and totally unexpected.
 
Give Misbah time before making these kind of judgements. Give him a year or two for him to build his team and we can judge then. Right now it's fresh changes and remnants of Mickey Arthur's team.

oh, please cut the nonsense about "build his team"! He got a free uninterrupted reign as captain, what kind of team did he leave us with? Why don't we EVER have an already built team? Whenever someone new takes charge, we come up with this fazool logic of building a team! This team has been crafted over the past several years - this IS your built team!
 
Beautiful by Arthur - it's like sans-bahu soap opera..... Arthur is trying to return the compliment of what Misbah did to him few months back. First, how messy this PAK squad is, how exciting the young players are ...... then what Babar (read they) could achieve ....finally Sarfraz, the guy instrumental for his exit....

He has learned the tricks and learned the tough way - won't be surprise if he returns back to PCB HQ, in Head Coach's office room .....
 
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But it was'nt working for the mafia in PCB that hates people whose only backing are results and performances. PCB only appreciates non-performing players with political backing.

Biased PCB wanted to keep Sarfaraz in the squad [to divert blame from Misbah] but wanted him to resign from all 3 formats, and Sarfaraz opted for PCB to remove him and a complete exit. It has been a great decision personally for him but bad overall for Pakistan.

One can see how this Pcb mafia is trying to find players to blame.

This currently is the worst time to be in Pakistan team, we all know this Misbah led team can't win anything, the way it lost every outside series under him in 2014-5 minus Dubai's sub standard slow pitches.
 
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It's a strategic decision. I've already replied to this point earlier, don't be a broken record and go on the block list.

Only Irfan and IK sr are questionable selections out of dozen other excellent, revolutionary selections. Can you even imagine someone else sacking Malik, Hafeez and Sarfraz?

Then taking a brand new, full of youngsters pace attack to Australia?

It has never happened before. Only Misbah could do it.

They're keeping the young pace attack fresh and a surprise for the format that matters. T20s do not matter much.

So, focus on the positives, which are overwhelming, more than 90%. You're like a broken record, bitter kid, who keeps on crying about two questionable selections while ignoring the things he did never done before.

Only questionable selection is Qadir, other than that his selections are completely justified, this team was going to fail whether Mickey was coaching it or whichever world-class coach you want. These people believe this is the effect of Misbah's coaching, but it's not we're only the 2nd T20 series in this is still the mess Mickey gave us especially with that fabricated T20 number 1 ranking.

Our fans have the memory of a goldfish and forget the horrendous losses in tests and the 12 game ODI losing streak. Mickey would bang on about fitness but then keep players like Imad, Haris and Sarfraz even when they would not perform well on the fitness tests.

Thank God and everyone at Pakistan cricket for appointing Misbah, we've already seen that useless fake captain Sarfraz get removed and he has introduced Iftikhar Ahmed, Naseem Shah, Musa and also Babar as rightful T20 captain.
 
I agree, I've watched Pakistan cricket since the 1999 World Cup and there is no doubt that in the last twenty years, Pakistan's darkest era in white ball cricket was under Misbah's captaincy between 2011 until 2015 World cup.

But the doom and gloom did not exactly stop there because he somehow managed to convince the PCB to bring Azhar Ali as captain, who didn't even warrant a place in Pakistan's ODI side. This pretty much sums up Misbah's lack of cricketing intelligence.

I loved misbah to bits, but I have a particular issue with this point.

He knew our top order was rubbish and he would have to come in in crisis most of the time,but never promoted himself from number 5 to stop the crisis from happening in the first place.

He then thought Azhar Ali was the answer AFTER misbah retired from playing Odis, yet he never played Azhar n his own era to stop the collapses from happening!!

Made me think all along that he preferred coming in at 50-3 so he could block the rest of the innings, cos that was the only way he could play and couldn't play quicker unless he was facing spin!!

I never understood it
 
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Hasnain for irfan is an interesting one considering irfan had good figures
No comment on riaz’s no balls

The mix up with order of batting is also something that is interesting
He sees Haris as a number 5 slotter although he has been Pakistan’s best player on the last two tours and played bounce very well in England
Asif up the order and asking fakhar to stay up there too is just inviting trouble
 
I loved misbah to bits, but I have a particular issue with this point.

He knew our top order was rubbish and he would have to come in in crisis most of the time,but never promoted himself from number 5 to stop the crisis from happening in the first place.

He then thought Azhar Ali was the answer AFTER misbah retired from playing Odis, yet he never played Azhar n his own era to stop the collapses from happening!!

Made me think all along that he preferred coming in at 50-3 so he could block the rest of the innings, cos that was the only way he could play and couldn't play quicker unless he was facing spin!!

I never understood it

Make no mistake - Misbah has always played like a scared chicken to save his place in the side. This has been apparent since Mohali, which was by far the most unforgivable innings I've personally seen from a Pakistani batsman.

He could have played another 200 ODIs and still failed to reach his first ton.
 
You mean a fluke? Okay.

We kept losing Tests, starting to lose even at home. You think that's okay? Became minnows in Tests.

We went on our longest losing streaks in ODIs. That's okay? We became used to "We're a proud team and hate losing". But kept losing.

Now to your question what we won: Beat IND in IND. Beat SA in SA (no other Asian team has done it till now). Won the Asia Cup. Became number #1 in Tests. Won more matches against the top 5 sides.

Now do I need to mention more achievements?

Lol. You seem adamant on making Misbah work and I do wish you and him the best. Because if he does finally and magically work out it'll be good for Pakistan cricket. No disrespect to Misbah's achievements and his role in getting Pakistan out of the 2010 spot-fixing era can't be understated.

But nothing in his past record or his present decisions suggest he has what it takes to lead Pakistan to limited overs victories over the long-term. The test team will likely get pummelled in Australia whoever might be coaching and under Misbah the UAE test records might get better again. But he was never a great leader in ODIs and T20s and despite supposedly experimenting, he has yet to give out a T20 debut in 5 games so far. All other teams are handing out T20 caps each game and we are going over our best of 2010 records.
 
Only questionable selection is Qadir, other than that his selections are completely justified, this team was going to fail whether Mickey was coaching it or whichever world-class coach you want. These people believe this is the effect of Misbah's coaching, but it's not we're only the 2nd T20 series in this is still the mess Mickey gave us especially with that fabricated T20 number 1 ranking.

Our fans have the memory of a goldfish and forget the horrendous losses in tests and the 12 game ODI losing streak. Mickey would bang on about fitness but then keep players like Imad, Haris and Sarfraz even when they would not perform well on the fitness tests.

Thank God and everyone at Pakistan cricket for appointing Misbah, we've already seen that useless fake captain Sarfraz get removed and he has introduced Iftikhar Ahmed, Naseem Shah, Musa and also Babar as rightful T20 captain.

Good post.

Mickey has already called for Sarfraz and Malik to be brought back. Immense pressure on Misbah from the PCB too.

I'm glad our fake rankings are being exposed well before the world T20. We'll have time to build a proper team now.

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The cat is out of the bag!

This guy absolutely LOVED Sarfraz, Malik and other oldies. There's a reason he not only took Malik to the world cup, but also played him in the starting XI.

Where are all the Mickey Arthur fans who used to claim he's a visionary and a tactical genius? In love with Sarfraz, actually.

Glad the dark Mickey Arthur era is over.

Sarfraz is miles ahead of all the captaincy options we have.

He is not wrong.

I hope he joins Quetta Gladiators and they both win the PSL this year that would be a slap on the face of Misbah
 
Wasn't Mickey himself recommending Sarfraz be relieved of captaincy just back in August when he was trying to keep the coaching job? I'm not anti-Mickey, but just surprised. What has changed for him?
 
[MENTION=150928]Boiz Played Well[/MENTION],

You have a right to disagree. But, it wouldn't be hard at all to be better than Mickey Arthur. Under Misbah we won far more matches against the top sides (there's a thread on it).

In Tests, there's obviously no dispute, as Mickey made us minnows in the premier format. We started losing at home - fortress was breached.

In ODIs we went on our worst losing streak under Arthur. The last 2 years have been a disaster, our darkest period.

Good things await us. Give it time.

Sarfraz is miles ahead of all the captaincy options we have.

He is not wrong.

I hope he joins Quetta Gladiators and they both win the PSL this year that would be a slap on the face of Misbah

Okay, genius.

There's a reason why Karachi Kings has been the worst PSL team, and why Mickey has been fired from all his major coaching jobs.
 
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