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You can't expect him to throw a ball at 135 with a messed up shoulder. I'm pretty sure surfing isn't too demanding on the shoulders, rather they're just used for balance?
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He was always like Waqar: devastating when fast, but too short to enjoy a long career because when he lost his pace he could be clobbered.
He could still have a role as a strike bowler in Tests, using outswing at 135k in short bursts, in a four paceman attack where he would only bowl 12-15 overs per day.
But for racial quota reasons that won't happen.
So last year he tried to bowl in the 140's in the Perth Test, and destroyed his shoulder.
Really, I always thought he was a 140-142 Average bowler. I remember watching him pick up 5 wickets against NZ last year he still seems to be able to swing it. But yeah the pace is down a few KM's.
Wasn't Waqar more of a high 140's bowler into the 150's at the end of his career his pace dropped into the 130's? I can't say much about Waqar since I never seen him bowl live.
Correct on both counts. Waqar was seriously quick before his own injuries.
Steyn is more of a situation bowler- he bowls within himself in the first spell of the day so that he can control & use the swing. Then depending on what the ball is doing he might have bowled flat out- 145-150 depending on form- to blast out with sheer pace or if it's moving nicely he'll save his energy and keep that quick spell up his sleeve and operate at 137-142ish.
Steyn wrecked his shoulder in a car crash a few years back and has hardly strung 2 tests together since. It literally fell apart with fractures last time he came back- a clear sign the joint is so unstable that it cannot take the strain of bowling fast anymore.
I don't think we'll see Steyn in tests or ODI again- he might nurse himself through a few T20 contracts though.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All I've done for 8 months is work to get better. My time back will be soon, pace is not a concern. If you wana know the truth, just ask. <a href="https://t.co/ZkgJFGby4c">https://t.co/ZkgJFGby4c</a></p>— Dale Steyn (@DaleSteyn62) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaleSteyn62/status/896009012126375936">August 11, 2017</a></blockquote>
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he has been wrapped in cotton wool throughout his career and has missed more limited over games than he has played but he is still too weak to play 100 tests
makes me respect anderson a lot more and i have never been his fan
How many great fast bowlers have played 100 Tests?
Walsh, Kapil, Anderson, McGrath, Vaas, Broad, Pollock, Wasim, Botham, Ntini are the only fast bowlers to have played 100 Tests.
Many great pacers never went on to play 100 Tests.
How many great fast bowlers have played 100 Tests?
Walsh, Kapil, Anderson, McGrath, Vaas, Broad, Pollock, Wasim, Botham, Ntini are the only fast bowlers to have played 100 Tests.
Many great pacers never went on to play 100 Tests.
How many great fast bowlers have played 100 Tests?
Walsh, Kapil, Anderson, McGrath, Vaas, Broad, Pollock, Wasim, Botham, Ntini are the only fast bowlers to have played 100 Tests.
Many great pacers never went on to play 100 Tests.
To compare workload, you have to compare FC matches, ODIs and List A. Even someone like Shoaib who'd lost his knees by 2002 has more FC matches, 133 to 128, than Steyn, forget list A and ODIs.
You also have to consider Shoaib was bowling them two yards faster on average thus expending more energy.True. Though Steyn has bowled thousands more deliveries overall taking all FC/LA/T20 into account, and in 3-4 fewer years.
I just noticed that Marshall played 400+ each FC and List-A bowling almost 100k deliveries. That's crazy.
Anyway calling Steyn a softie due to his weakness in ODIs and in Tests against the best teams (away from home) is a point worth considering but I'm not sure how a shoulder fracture makes him a softie. He has been out for a long time though so not sure if there's been some mismanagement with his injury or what.
he has been wrapped in cotton wool throughout his career and has missed more limited over games than he has played but he is still too weak to play 100 tests
makes me respect anderson a lot more and i have never been his fan
Because Anderson has been a regular member of the ODI team.
Oh wait
Is he injured again?
He is off the fields on Day 2 of the 3rd Test vs Pakistan - shortly after he threw a ball in from the outfield and then clutched his shoulder
Back on the field again.
He was always like Waqar: devastating when fast, but too short to enjoy a long career because when he lost his pace he could be clobbered.
He could still have a role as a strike bowler in Tests, using outswing at 135k in short bursts, in a four paceman attack where he would only bowl 12-15 overs per day.
But for racial quota reasons that won't happen.
So last year he tried to bowl in the 140's in the Perth Test, and destroyed his shoulder.
Why did CSA let him play IPL when every man and his dog knows that he is very injury prone and that IPL was so close to WC? Really some idiots.
If a player makes himself available for the IPL a cricket board can't stop him lol. The funny thing is he wasn't selected initially. He got chosen by RCB after Coulter Nile was ruled of the tournament.
You should be blaming Steyn for making himself available for draft with his injury so close to the WC. Starc and Cummins pulled out of IPL as they knew about what was coming up.
It's stupid of Steyn as well, but I'm sure eyebrows must have been raised at CSA. I guess Steyn sees a few extra bucks as more important than representing your country in the world's most prestigious tournament