David Warner's innings of 335* - The best coaching Babar Azam can get

[big_gamer007]

David Warner's innings has been a masterclass in terms of fitness.

He is playing at 300+ and still running his heart out for doubles, triples. This is what separates the very best from good players, FITNESS.

The quality of attack is poor, the bowlers are meek and subservient and lack aggression and pace. However, the silver lining is that Babar Azam is watching this innings from the front seat. If he has hunger to be the very best in the world he should have realised how important a role fitness plays. He needs to go to Warner after the end of day's play or maybe when match is over and talk to him for 30-40 minutes and understand his fitness regime, his diet and mindset to keep himself in the best of shape.

He should learn not to be content at scoring 100-130 and getting tired and giving up his wicket. If he really wants to be he very best in the world he needs to understand the art of playing daddy innings. For that you need top level fitness. In countries like Australia where boundaries are long you need high level of fitness to be able to take 2s and 3s.

Another important point, when you are out of form (which will happen to Babar eventually), you can get your confidence back by taking quick ones,twos and threes easily. It's easier for a Kohli, AB, Smith or Warner to come back to form and regain their confidence than for someone like a Gayle or Sehwag or ganguly type players.

Even if Pakistan lose by innings and 200 runs from here, this match can still be good for Pakistan if it gives Babar the understanding he needs to elevate his game to next level.

Will he take this opportunity? Time will tell.

 

[Hawkeye]

He definitely is an example for home track bullying.

However, you just need to look at his scores in England to see what kind of coaching Babar needs.

Don't go too far, just the last Ashes.

 

[big_gamer007]

He definitely is an example for home track bullying.

However, you just need to look at his scores in England to see what kind of coaching Babar needs.

Don't go too far, just the last Ashes.

Way to miss the point

I hope for Pakistan crickets stake, Babar doesn't have your brains

 

[adil79]

lol. nothing beats selfish 50/100, it has its own charms.

 

[Savak]

Don't think fitness has ever been an issue for Babar Azam. His issue is throwing it away after getting 50

 

[Hyperion66]

The match is gone already, no pressure whatsoever, let's see how Babar does from here.

 

[big_gamer007]

Don't think fitness has ever been an issue for Babar Azam. His issue is throwing it away after getting 50

Can he runs 2s and 3s after making 200? Is he fit enough?
Will he run 2s and 3s for the other batsmen?

 

[Varun]

He should learn not to be content at scoring 100-130 and getting tired and giving up his wicket.

Easy, Babar has only scored like 2 100s.

 

[Relic]

Can he runs 2s and 3s after making 200? Is he fit enough?
Will he run 2s and 3s for the other batsmen?

He has a 250 in first class cricket. So I guess he is fit enough

 

[Ab Fan]

Too early for all these, it's very fine if during early days, I take pride in hundreds. But not after you are 25. Babar is 25 and it's time for him to maintain the consistency with his batting. A long way to go but the guy has the potential. It will never be about one odd game but consistency for years.

 

[Aman]

He's a Fab 5 player so at least 500.

 

[big_gamer007]

He has a 250 in first class cricket. So I guess he is fit enough

First class you get plenty of lose balls to hit boundaries, in international matches you won't get that luxury against top teams.

 

[Relic]

First class you get plenty of lose balls to hit boundaries, in international matches you won't get that luxury against top teams.

It's not about the quality of the attack or scoring 250. It's about the fitness levels. Does he have the fitness to last 400-500 balls?
If he can play 500+ balls in a first class match then he can surely do it in a test match

 

[big_gamer007]

It's not about the quality of the attack or scoring 250. It's about the fitness levels. Does he have the fitness to last 400-500 balls?
If he can play 500+ balls in a first class match then he can surely do it in a test match

Modern Batting is not just about playing 500+ balls. It's about scoring runs as well. Players throw their wickets away if they are not keeping the scoreboard ticking, that's where fitness comes in where you can run quick singles, convert ones I to twos, take threes etc when boundaries are hard to come by.

That's why players like Kohli, Smith, Warner (in certain conditions) are the best.

We are talking about Babar becoming the best, it's not about him being a Pakistani great which he will be eventually even witb half decent level of fitness.

 

[Majid Khan]

I would have thought batting alongside Hafeez for a couple of years was Babar’s best education on batting as during this time Babar would have witnessed every mode and variety of dismissal and text book demonstration of how NOT to bat against pace/bounce/seam/in swing/out swing/ reverse swing.

 

[Virat_Kohli_fan]

Babar could get 300 too if he was playing against the Pakistani attack in this match. He's gonna be facing Starc and Cummins instead.

 

[Abdullah]

The match is gone already, no pressure whatsoever, let's see how Babar does from here.

I know the next hour is gonna be tough but we should be looking to get to 400 if we can get through that period. There is rain around too so we can eke out a draw. Shan and Babar are the keys and have to bat long

 

[Hyperion66]

I know the next hour is gonna be tough but we should be looking to get to 400 if we can get through that period. There is rain around too so we can eke out a draw. Shan and Babar are the keys and have to bat long

There is no match, Babar knows it, Misnah knows it, everyone who matters knows it. You are losing by an innings and 100 something runs, accept it now and the pain will be a lot less.

"Looking to get 400" Lmao, score 200 first. You are losing it with or without rain.

 

[Abdullah]

Learn some manners first, don't quote me if you can't maintain some basic civility.

There is no match, Babar knows it, Misnah knows it, everyone who matters knows it. You are losing by an innings and 100 something runs, accept it now and the pain will be a lot less.

"Looking to get 400" Lmao, score 200 first. You are losing it with or without rain.

Sorry bro. Emotions running high with what's been going on!!! And saying there is no pressure i didn't agree with. In fact it's harder for Babar as he can not win in this situation. Will get pelterd if he does score and pelterd if he doesnt

I did say if we get through the next hour which we didn't do... We were 4 down.

I think batting will be easy in the morning, except there is only 1 guy there who will now have to overplay

 

[Markhor]

They can also look at an example closer to home in Younis Khan. Whilst a jittery starter, he was difficult to remove once set and was exceptional at converting 100s to 150s and 200+ scores.

 

[Napa]

David Warner's innings has been a masterclass in terms of fitness.

He is playing at 300+ and still running his heart out for doubles, triples. This is what separates the very best from good players, FITNESS.

The quality of attack is poor, the bowlers are meek and subservient and lack aggression and pace. However, the silver lining is that Babar Azam is watching this innings from the front seat. If he has hunger to be the very best in the world he should have realised how important a role fitness plays. He needs to go to Warner after the end of day's play or maybe when match is over and talk to him for 30-40 minutes and understand his fitness regime, his diet and mindset to keep himself in the best of shape.

He should learn not to be content at scoring 100-130 and getting tired and giving up his wicket. If he really wants to be he very best in the world he needs to understand the art of playing daddy innings. For that you need top level fitness. In countries like Australia where boundaries are long you need high level of fitness to be able to take 2s and 3s.

Another important point, when you are out of form (which will happen to Babar eventually), you can get your confidence back by taking quick ones,twos and threes easily. It's easier for a Kohli, AB, Smith or Warner to come back to form and regain their confidence than for someone like a Gayle or Sehwag or ganguly type players.

Even if Pakistan lose by innings and 200 runs from here, this match can still be good for Pakistan if it gives Babar the understanding he needs to elevate his game to next level.

Will he take this opportunity? Time will tell.

Forget about Warner, I would say the model for Test batsmen playing for teams under the pump is Pujara’s innings of 525 balls. Any team with a couple of batsmen capable of playing such innings is virtually unbeatable. Pujara’s innings turned the series around in India’s favor. The greatest Test batsmen are those with the mental ability to play long innings.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/18949258/pujara-plays-india-longest-innings

 

[Relic]

Forget about Warner, I would say the model for Test batsmen playing for teams under the pump is Pujara’s innings of 525 balls. Any team with a couple of batsmen capable of playing such innings is virtually unbeatable. Pujara’s innings turned the series around in India’s favor. The greatest Test batsmen are those with the mental ability to play long innings.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/18949258/pujara-plays-india-longest-innings

How's he supposed to play for so long if he doesn't even have anyone to support him.
The guy came in at 2 down and hasn't even reached his 50 yet and we're 6 down.

 

[Napa]

How's he supposed to play for so long if he doesn't even have anyone to support him.
The guy came in at 2 down and hasn't even reached his 50 yet and we're 6 down.

Very true. A Test team needs multiple batsmen capable of playing long innings, not just one. Pujara's success would not have been possible without Saha's 233 balls innings.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...india-vs-australia-3rd-test-ind-v-aus-2016-17

I actually rate Pujara the most important Test batsman for India, ahead even of Kohli. His ability to play a long innings is what brought us victory in the Australia series.

My point is that being able to play attractives strokes and being able to run hard are good things, but the most important characteristic of a Test batsman is the ability to play a long innings. YK had it too.

 

[Relic]

Very true. A Test team needs multiple batsmen capable of playing long innings, not just one. Pujara's success would not have been possible without Saha's 233 balls innings.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...india-vs-australia-3rd-test-ind-v-aus-2016-17

I actually rate Pujara the most important Test batsman for India, ahead even of Kohli. His ability to play a long innings is what brought us victory in the Australia series.

My point is that being able to play attractives strokes and being able to run hard are good things, but the most important characteristic of a Test batsman is the ability to play a long innings. YK had it too.

Yep I understood your point and I completely agree.
We just batsmen who are going to bat ahead of babar and before who can actually play for long. We're really lacking in this aspect

In our first Nz tour in 2019 babar was left stranding on 90 despite coming in at no.3. Imagine the difference it would have made if he had scored his first hundred there and then. He completely flopped in his next tour (the aus one) and failed to recover till 2018.

 

[moghul]

Mathew Hayden made 380 against Zimbabwe in 2003 against Heath Streak, Bilgnaut, Ervin and Price, not a legendary bowling attack but better than the "attack" David Warner scored his triple ton.

 

[TeamPak95]

Very true. At the same time, for Babar to score daddy hundreds he also needs his partners at the other end sustaining their wicket and scoring as well. Warner's had Labu, who does Babar have that he can rely on?

 

[Pakpak]

David Warner was playing our absolute horrific bowling.

 

[Mean&Green]

The match is gone already, no pressure whatsoever, let's see how Babar does from here.

I know it’s paining you that babar is on 43 not out though regardless the Match is gone but for the sake of that babar vs rahul thread you must be eagerly waiting for him to fail.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I think he has alrady done enough on this tour to get everyone to notice. Decent tour match. One decent innings in the first test. His series against lesser fancied Srilankan team will give us an idea how far he has grown as Test player.

 

[Hyperion66]

I know it’s paining you that babar is on 43 not out though regardless the Match is gone but for the sake of that babar vs rahul thread you must be eagerly waiting for him to fail.

Yes I am in so much pain but on the other hand happy to be able to contribute to your 'Choti choti khushiyan' fund.

 

[Hyperion66]

I know it’s paining you that babar is on 43 not out though regardless the Match is gone but for the sake of that babar vs rahul thread you must be eagerly waiting for him to fail.

Rahul got a hundred against England in a similar situation when all seemed lost and he was bashed mercilessly here by Indian fans for supposedly scoring an inconsequential ton for a lost cause on a dead rubber. You guys seem happy as long as Babar scores irrespective of the results, good for you.

 

[Mean&Green]

Rahul got a hundred against England in a similar situation when all seemed lost and he was bashed mercilessly here by Indian fans for supposedly scoring an inconsequential ton for a lost cause on a dead rubber. You guys seem happy as long as Babar scores irrespective of the results, good for you.

Yeah well of course our team is crap but babar is class and of course these choti choti khushiyan are fine as wel atm as well as it’s clearly making you very dukhi that you had to quote me two times on the same post.

 

[Hyperion66]

Yeah well of course our team is crap but babar is class and of course these choti choti khushiyan are fine as wel atm as well as it’s clearly making you very dukhi that you had to quote me two times on the same post.

I don't mind a little 'dukh' as long as it gives you some 'khushiyan'. Win win for both I guess. Good to see my mistakenly quoting you twice made you even happier. Feels like doing charity, couldn't have asked for a better start of my Sunday.

Have great day.

 

[Mean&Green]

Rahul got a hundred against England in a similar situation when all seemed lost and he was bashed mercilessly here by Indian fans for supposedly scoring an inconsequential ton for a lost cause on a dead rubber. You guys seem happy as long as Babar scores irrespective of the results, good for you.

I know our team is crap but babar is class. It’s not about the team when you already know what they are capable of but this is a reality check for guys like you who doubt him and compare him to hacks like some kl rahul. Irrespective of the result these choti choti khushiyan are good for us as clearly they are making you very dhukhi that you had to quote me two times on the same post.

 

[Hyperion66]

I know our team is crap but babar is class. It’s not about the team when you already know what they are capable of but this is a reality check for guys like you who doubt him and compare him to hacks like some kl rahul. Irrespective of the result these choti choti khushiyan are good for us as clearly they are making you very dhukhi that you had to quote me two times on the same post.

Irony is you just quoted me twice with almost same post. Anyways enjoy Babar's almost century, after all your team hardly gives anything to cheer about.

 

[Relic]

Irony is you just quoted me twice with almost same post. Anyways enjoy Babar's almost century, after all your team hardly gives anything to cheer about.

Why're you so salty all the time?
Cheer up mate.
Depression ain't gonna cure itself

 

[Abdullah]

David Warner was playing our absolute horrific bowling.

He wouldn't last 2 minutes against Hazelwood Cummins and starc with a new cherry.

 

[Hyperion66]

Why're you so salty all the time?
Cheer up mate.
Depression ain't gonna cure itself

I am a'ight mate, just our neighbors being manhandled made me sad. I have a big heart full of empathy for the less fortunate fans.

Thanks for checking on me mate.

 

[big_gamer007]

So for everyone dismissing this thread, Barbar's dismissal today was classic example of laziness. No footwork and trying to hit the ball through covers without footwork, this happens when you feel tired, if it connects it looks good but you always give bowler chance for a wicket. He should have bought his foot closer to ball and head on top then hit through covers. He would have done that if he was playing at 20. Looked a tired or casual/lazy shot which shouldn't happen at this level.

These little things casual fans don't realise which will hamper Babar from being SRT/Lara/Smith/Kohli level.

 

[big_gamer007]

David Warner was playing our absolute horrific bowling.

Not about quality of bowling but approach to game. Babar got out to a lazy/tired looking shot without any footwork, whereas, Warner was running 3s after making 300. Fitness is most important factor of babar wants to be tier 1. He has potential and natural ability, he should work on athlete level fitness and he can be considered tier 1 in future.

 

[Mean&Green]

Irony is you just quoted me twice with almost same post. Anyways enjoy Babar's almost century, after all your team hardly gives anything to cheer about.

I didn’t actually it’s cause the mods deleted the post of mine anyways he’s still miles ahead of some kl rahul. Babar gets compared to the elite in the world by commies and everyone kl rahul doesn’t even come in that bracket. Maybe we should make a kl rahul vs yasir shah thread that will be more appropriate