Dead rubber and nothing to lose - but Pakistan management decides to play same XI?

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">England win the toss and bowl first.<br><br>An ideal opportunity to give some of the untried players a chance but surprisingly Pakistan make no changes<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvPAK</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1414911120276692993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2021</a></blockquote>
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[Savak]

Misbah has always been a day to day, jaisay chal raha hai waisay hee chalnay doh type of guy. When he was captain his die hard supporters kept propagating his job as captain is to just do his best with the squad given to him by the selectors, it is not his job to plan and worry about the future of Pakistan Cricket, he doesn't have power authority to make selection decisions but lol now the guy has been the head coach chief selector for the last 2 years. Even his die hard supporters are out of ammunition and ideas to defend him now

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

It's not dead rubber, is it? These points (ODI league) are the criteria to qualify for the world cup

 

[Saj]

It looked like Hasnain was really going for it in the warm-ups but then he wasn't picked.

I wonder if it was a last minute decision not to play him.

 

[mac187]

should have tried some different combinations, pakistan definitely need to move away from making selections on the back of psl.

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

Everything to lose - world cup spot at stake!

 

[Concerned]

Pakistan is trying to redefine science.

They are determined the same parameters will achieve different results.

 

[Sycamore]

Management doesn't want to admit they were wrong in the team selection, if they made changes today and the team won that would mean their choices were wrong.

 

[Yasir_ch]

It's all misbah ul haq the destroyer of Pakistan cricket's fault.

As long as he is with the team Pakistan cricket can't progress.

 

[Rana]

They need to do their best for Rizwan to score a meaningless 50 or 100 so that they can give him the long rope like they did in T20s

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Management doesn't want to admit they were wrong in the team selection, if they made changes today and the team won that would mean their choices were wrong.

Bingo.

Says it all about Misbah, doesn’t like to be proven wrong even if it’s for the betterment of Pakistan cricket, he’d rather lose and not change his team so he can use the excuse “we played our best xi”.

 

[unemployedgm]

Load Management and Player Development

If you can't rest Hasan Ali and Shaheen Shah in a dead rubber I don't know what to tell you.

If you can't give the larger squad an opportunity to get their feet wet, don't expect any development.

 

[Major]

No need to make changes.

Rizwan is keeper, i dont want to see sarfraz come in. Babar is captain. SOhaib and Saud are new in the team.

Imam aswell is making a comeback and Fakahr Zaman also trying to cement his spot.

Dont want to see hacks like Azam Khan or that Salmna Agha either.

If a change was needed than only one change was needed and that was Harris Rauf.

Changing for the sake of a loss makes no sense

 

[YousafTheBeast]

No need to make changes.

Rizwan is keeper, i dont want to see sarfraz come in. Babar is captain. SOhaib and Saud are new in the team.

Imam aswell is making a comeback and Fakahr Zaman also trying to cement his spot.

Dont want to see hacks like Azam Khan or that Salmna Agha either.

If a change was needed than only one change was needed and that was Harris Rauf.

Changing for the sake of a loss makes no sense

So when do you make changes, lol? When the team is winning? Or do we wait until their old and retired?

 

[PakLFC]

Pulling my hair out in frustration. Why can't they bat like this all the time? Seems as if they need a proper bashing from fans to get in to gear. Perhaps some Pak cricketers visit this site too.

 

[Rana]

No need to make changes.

Rizwan is keeper, i dont want to see sarfraz come in. Babar is captain. SOhaib and Saud are new in the team.

Imam aswell is making a comeback and Fakahr Zaman also trying to cement his spot.

Dont want to see hacks like Azam Khan or that Salmna Agha either.

If a change was needed than only one change was needed and that was Harris Rauf.

Changing for the sake of a loss makes no sense

Ironic, what was the need to change Mickey in the first place for Misbah?

 

[Canistani Hero]

Fahim Ashraf and Haris Rauf should have made way for Mohammad Wasim and Mohammad Hasnain..the rest seems understandable

 

[Artaxerxes]

Fahim Ashraf and Haris Rauf should have made way for Mohammad Wasim and Mohammad Hasnain..the rest seems understandable

Hasnain is also not consistent.Rauf and Hasnain need to play full season of domestic cricket .

 

[MRSN]

Because Misbah is a proven stubborn and timid defensive person. He will ways want to prove others wrong by not accepting his blunders. Pathetic mentality especially when you are a coach.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Abdul Shafiq should have been given a chance in the last odi.

 

[Majid Khan]

Unfortunately both Shoaib Malik and Mohammed Hafeez were not in the squad - otherwise you could guarantee it by some chance if they were not already in the playing XI for the first game, they would have come straight back in second game , and by third game there’s more possibility of snow in Lahore in June then Hafeez not playing.

 

[mazkhan]

The cupboard is bare , it's not like any of the players on the bench inspire any confidence either

 

[Snowflake]

No need to make changes.

Rizwan is keeper, i dont want to see sarfraz come in. Babar is captain. SOhaib and Saud are new in the team.

Imam aswell is making a comeback and Fakahr Zaman also trying to cement his spot.

Dont want to see hacks like Azam Khan or that Salmna Agha either.

If a change was needed than only one change was needed and that was Harris Rauf.

Changing for the sake of a loss makes no sense

Agree with this. A lot of the guys in the team deserve a proper run. This approach would make more sense if the scoreline was flipped.

 

[Saj]

I would have played Mohammad Hasnain instead of Faheem

I would have played Usman Qadir instead of Shadab Khan

I would have played Abdullah Shafique instead of Imam ul Haq

 

[hitthestump]

The cupboard is bare , it's not like any of the players on the bench inspire any confidence either

I'd have fancied seeing Qadir and Dhani at least. Maybe Sharjeel too in a dead rubber.

 

[MenInG]

Misbah's reply to this question today:

We wanted to go in to all of the 3 matches with our best combination. No doubt we didn’t click in the second match but we were confident that this was our best XI. Also the new players had just come off the back of PSL and they’ve not played any 50-over cricket for a while. So after 2 matches the team was in rhythm as they had familiarised themselves with conditions and the opposition. So the players who had been playing had a better idea of conditions, so we felt that this XI had a good chance of winning the 3rd match and that’s why we never made any changes and bring in new players who hadn’t featured in the series at all. Overall the combination was based on the conditions and the pitch that we saw.

 

[cricketfan11]

It is bizarre they went for the same team.

I would have probably rested Shaheen. Seems to have pomp and show but doesn't take enough wickets. Didn't deserve the Cat A contract.

 

[Artaxerxes]

I would have played Mohammad Hasnain instead of Faheem

I would have played Usman Qadir instead of Shadab Khan

I would have played Abdullah Shafique instead of Imam ul Haq

Agree.Hasnain would have scored more runs than Faheem.He is a better bowler than Faheem.Imam is ok but what if he gets injured?.Pakistan .If upcoming players are not given chances then how is Pakistan going to have a reasonably large pool of players?

 

[freezerburn]

Should have opened bowling with a spinner on one end. Not sure why this was abandoned

 

[Energy]

Pakistan is trying to redefine science.

They are determined the same parameters will achieve different results.

This is a trademark on being uneducated.

 

[shamaan]

Should have opened bowling with a spinner on one end. Not sure why this was abandoned

Shadab doesn't bowl with the new ball.he was the only recognised spinner alongside saud

 

[Saj]

Misbah's reply to this question today:

We wanted to go in to all of the 3 matches with our best combination. No doubt we didn’t click in the second match but we were confident that this was our best XI. Also the new players had just come off the back of PSL and they’ve not played any 50-over cricket for a while. So after 2 matches the team was in rhythm as they had familiarised themselves with conditions and the opposition. So the players who had been playing had a better idea of conditions, so we felt that this XI had a good chance of winning the 3rd match and that’s why we never made any changes and bring in new players who hadn’t featured in the series at all. Overall the combination was based on the conditions and the pitch that we saw.

I asked Misbah this question at the press conference and to be honest his answer and reasons weren't that clear or convincing.

 

[gazza619]

Misbah's reply to this question today:

We wanted to go in to all of the 3 matches with our best combination. No doubt we didn’t click in the second match but we were confident that this was our best XI. Also the new players had just come off the back of PSL and they’ve not played any 50-over cricket for a while. So after 2 matches the team was in rhythm as they had familiarised themselves with conditions and the opposition. So the players who had been playing had a better idea of conditions, so we felt that this XI had a good chance of winning the 3rd match and that’s why we never made any changes and bring in new players who hadn’t featured in the series at all. Overall the combination was based on the conditions and the pitch that we saw.

Misbah can commit a murder and then come up with a lame excuse which may satisfy the judge and his supporters.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Misbah's reply to this question today:

We wanted to go in to all of the 3 matches with our best combination. No doubt we didn’t click in the second match but we were confident that this was our best XI. Also the new players had just come off the back of PSL and they’ve not played any 50-over cricket for a while. So after 2 matches the team was in rhythm as they had familiarised themselves with conditions and the opposition. So the players who had been playing had a better idea of conditions, so we felt that this XI had a good chance of winning the 3rd match and that’s why we never made any changes and bring in new players who hadn’t featured in the series at all. Overall the combination was based on the conditions and the pitch that we saw.

So basically, if there was 50 ODI’s in the series vs England, and we lost 49 of those, Misbah would still pick the same team for the last ODI because those players would be more familiarised with the conditions than those sitting on the bench.

Our coach.

This guy is doing everything he can to destroy the confidence of the players sitting on the bench.

 

[moghul]

When will Misbah's contract will expire ?

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Management doesn't want to admit they were wrong in the team selection, if they made changes today and the team won that would mean their choices were wrong.

agreed, but now it's on their face, and looks even worse after 0-3 lol ha
that was classical catch 22 situation.

 

[iRfaN_LA]

I would have played Mohammad Hasnain instead of Faheem

I would have played Usman Qadir instead of Shadab Khan

I would have played Abdullah Shafique instead of Imam ul Haq

Spot on but the issue with this team is Misbah's mindset. Will he ever think out of the box? He will only make changes when things hit rock bottom. This defensive mindset has caused great harm to Pakistan cricket.

 

[Rana]

Misbah ul Haq and his lack of experimentation in inconsequential matches

England have been experimenting throughout this tour! Not a single time have England shown that the sides they are fielding are those that will play in the T20i World Cup first group game.

What harm is there to try out a Fakhar/Sharjeel opening combo to see if it works or not????!

Some of us have been screaming for this for far too long but we keep getting shut down by so called know it alls who think it will never work! How will we actually know if it will work or not without even trying it?!?!

What harm is there to try Babar and Rizwan as Middle order batsmen instead of openers for once???

What harm is there to try Sohaib Maqsood even as an opener with only two fielders in the ring for the first six?????

Why are we so scared to experiment and see what could be the best outcome instead of playing the same old rubbish brand of cricket because ‘the World Cup is very close’? There are still plenty of T20s to come before the World Cup, even though Misbah should have been trying all of his combinations since the New Zealand tour.

He is the worst coach in the world for a reason!

 

[hitthestump]

It's not just batting of course.

We persist with rock thrower Rauf and spray gun Hasnain why?

Because those two are the only two we every give opportunities to in LOI's.

The 3rd seamer role has been wide open for years and it's now a fact that Misbah and Bekaar Younis are incapable of filling it.

 

[m.shah]

When Misbah was captain he used to do this too.

 

[MenInG]

5 debutants for India in a dead rubber.

Something to be learn't here.

 

[ex-q-zit]

5 debutants for India in a dead rubber.

Something to be learn't here.

The main reason is the fear of losing and the criticism that comes with the loss.

 

[OMB]

The main reason is the fear of losing and the criticism that comes with the loss.

No pain no gain

 

[Sir-fraz]

The main reason is the fear of losing and the criticism that comes with the loss.

They already think they will lose. Thats what wrong here. Losers mentality from misbah is being passed onto babar

 

[silentkiller187]

The main reason is the fear of losing and the criticism that comes with the loss.

The fear for the criticism when we lose even with our best xi should be higher.

When you try out new combinations your in a win win situation like England during the odi's , if you win great if you lose at least you have the excuse of blooding new players etc, Pak are stuck in the same cycle with the same faces over and over again even when they do make changes, we got a young kid for example dahani , they take him to zim and don't even play him, he has a stellar PSL (different format) i know however he gets dropped afterwards, i can tell you for a fact he would have been on par if not better than rauf and hasnain. .

Hope they don't treat him the same way in west indies tour.

 

[MenInG]

Rahul Dravid-led Team India demolished Sri Lanka in the first two ODIs, of the three-match series, to take an unassailable lead. Hence, they took on the field with as many as five debutants during the third and final tie, at R Premadasa Stadium, Colombo on Friday (July 23).

It became only the second instance of Team India coming out with five debutants in an ODI after their inaugural match in the 50-over format. The first instance was against Australia at the MCG in Dec 1980 when the likes of Dilip Doshi, Kirti Azad, Roger Binny, Sandeep Patil & Tirumalai Srinivasan had made their debuts.

This time around, Nitish Rana, Sanju Samson, Chetan Sakariya, Rahul Chahar and Krishnappa Gowtham made their debuts for Shikhar Dhawan-led India, with the series well in their kitty. While India lost the third and inconsequential ODI, by 3 wickets in defence of 226 in the rain-affected 47-overs contest, former Pakistan captain Ramiz Raja lauded Dravid & Co. for their mindset to field five newcomers.

'Not many teams in Asia take the field with such a mentality'

Raja pointed out on his YouTube channel, "5 players were handed debuts for the third ODI which is a very good thing. It was a great decision taken by the management. Though they have won the series already, there are not many teams in Asia that take the field with such a mentality."

"Several teams select their final XI in a reserved manner despite winning the series. They have a timid approach for introducing fresh talent, with a fear of losing the game. But you won’t expect such things when Rahul Dravid is around."

“The reason is – he has a completely different mindset. A win or loss doesn’t bother him much. He might have got the directive to test the bench strength, especially after capturing the series. So that, the canvas of Indian cricket gets bigger and new players could be introduced who can serve the country in future,” he added.

Barring Rana (8), all the other debutants made a mark. Sakariya returned with 2/34 (8), Sanju Samson looked good for his run-a-ball 46, Gowtham ended with a wicket whereas Rahul Chahar finished with match figures of 10-0-54-3.

The action will now shift to the three-match T20I series, with India set to take on Dasun Shanaka-led Sri Lanka in the series opener on Sunday (July 25) at R Premadasa Stadium, Colombo.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...says-coach-is-unfazed-with-win-or-loss/789893