Did Inzamam-ul-Haq do the right thing by stepping down as Chief Selector?

[Slim]

Shehzad? Come on, dude. Junaid was backed to the hill by Inzamam but ended up getting thrashed by the English batsmen at the wrong time. That isn't Inzamam's fault. As for Abid, his selection could have gone either way seeing how he had a century and a duck in two matches. However, our batsmen did well in the world cup and Abid wouldn't have changed anything.

JK was dropped for the kiwi series IIRC for no reason. Then he wasnt utilized by the team management and was made into a fall guy later on.

I would say its the team management's fault and not just inzi.

Agree about Abid, but he could have been selected maybe one year earlier.

Nevertheless, Inzi is probably one of the best selectors we have had. We are going to miss him if we go back to the players of old.

 

[Slim]

Him vs msk who wins?

Pathetic comparison. MSK is nothing in front of Inzamam and [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] what a baseless and fazol opinion. Worst chief selector in history? Ridiculous.

 

[Hawkeye]

The next will be one of:

Mohsin, Rashid, Moin. Or someone unknown. They'll bring back Ahmed Shehzad, and some other railu katta as well.

You only realize someone's importance after they're gone. We're only going to get someone worse, not better.

 

[zoeyfactor]

Shahid Afridi maybe the next CS?

 

[BaankeJi]

Shahid Afridi maybe the next CS?

Yes. Most deserving.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Lol is Msk also resigning?

No haha.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Pathetic comparison. MSK is nothing in front of Inzamam and [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] what a baseless and fazol opinion. Worst chief selector in history? Ridiculous.

Apt comparison.

Lots of great players make awful coaches/selectors/analysts.

Inzi has been awful.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

If Inzi had selected proper spinners, Pak may not have got embarrassed in uae tests and did much better this WC.

And his continued backing of Malik was a joke.

 

[emranabbas]

If Inzi had selected proper spinners, Pak may not have got embarrassed in uae tests and did much better this WC.

And his continued backing of Malik was a joke.

Reality is there is no decent world class spinner in Pakistan

Malik and hafeez will be in the setup no matter who the CS is.

You can't blame inzi for that

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Reality is there is no decent world class spinner in Pakistan

Malik and hafeez will be in the setup no matter who the CS is.

You can't blame inzi for that

I am no expert but Asfghar and Zafar could have been tried in loi and as a second spinner in tests.

I have seen them bowl.

Or someone else.

It's not about who is world class. It's about whether the right process is being followed.

Yasir Shah as loi spinner? Lol.

 

[Pakpak]

Reality is there is no decent world class spinner in Pakistan

Malik and hafeez will be in the setup no matter who the CS is.

You can't blame inzi for that

What a stupid post. We haven't tried any spinner like Gohar. At all.

 

[Rellu_Katta]

The next will be one of:

Mohsin, Rashid, Moin. Or someone unknown. They'll bring back Ahmed Shehzad, and some other railu katta as well.

You only realize someone's importance after they're gone. We're only going to get someone worse, not better.

more than happy to be part of the team lol

 

[emranabbas]

What a stupid post. We haven't tried any spinner like Gohar. At all.

So your saying the next CS will 100 percent select Zafar gohar?

I've been hearing this name for a while now why hasn't the previous CS not selected him?

You can't blame inzi for not selecting your dream team

 

[Rellu_Katta]

i just hope we keep the jokers like Rashid Latif, Moin Khan, Mohsin Khan and Aamir Sohail away from the setup.. these guys are filled with racism and are fully biased about certain cricketers.

Moin Khan will try to get likes of Anwar Ali, Umar Akmal , Ahmad Shahzad Sohail Tanveer and Asad Shafiq back in the team bcz they play in Quetta where he is the coach. clearly the guy has 0 shame if he can pick Asad Shafiq and Azam Khan in PSL then huh

Rashid will only pick players from Karachi... He moans about Khurram Mazoor, Tabish Khan and some other xyz as they were world beaters where as they were just ****

Mohsin Khan has abs no clue what he is talking about. His amazing comment in one of the show in CWC was "We wasted Asad Shafiq in LOI" ... wat a joker

Aamir Sohail has an ego bigger than anything .. well probably the Doofas Younas comes close... the guy has no shame, no sense and abysimal cricketing sense ...

 

[Pakpak]

So your saying the next CS will 100 percent select Zafar gohar?

I've been hearing this name for a while now why hasn't the previous CS not selected him?

You can't blame inzi for not selecting your dream team

Another stupid post. Who else can we blame for not selecting players than the chief selector? What are you babbling on about a dream team. Who even mentioned a dream team. The point was you can't whine about no good spinners of you actually never select the spinners who deserve to be selected based on good domestic performance.

 

[silentkiller187]

Everyone here has an opinion and criticizes Inzi, but no one has mentioned any names of players that were screaming to be called up, you can only be as good as the pool of players in front of you, for whatever reason the new generation aren't as talented as before, thats not Inzi's fault. The way he conducted himself since his announcement has been very classy, a few people on here could learn a thing or two.

 

[coy0607]

mixed bag from Inzamam. He did well to give a lot of younger players a go, but some blunders from him too.

Right time to go for him, although I am certain we haven't seen the last of him with the PCB

 

[shah_1]

Inzaman should have selected Saud Shakeel.

Usman Shinwari didn't deserve to be dropped

The ill planning of selecting no 6, Asif Ali didn't play the series against South Africa and Australia then suddenly out of nowhere he gets selected for England tour.

It was baffling to see Yasir Shah and Abbas being given the chance in ODIs

Having no back up spinner in last 3 years was a disaster

I have already mentioned that Malik and Hafeez shouldn't have played after CT

 

[hadi123]

the great know it all five year olds on this forum want one of those..so they can moan about something again..

Agree with you completely. These fans have no clue how our system works. I miss Inzi already.

 

[Snowflake]

I don't even want to think about the potential replacements! *shudders*

Inzi did more than a decent job. We've unearthed players who are capable of serving the team for the next 5-8 years. These new players will only get better with time.

Getting rid of TTFs will be the biggest achievement of Inzi which none of the previous selectors have been able to do.

However, this good work can easily be erased by people like MHK or whatever washed up replacement PCB will bring in.

In a year, I'd love to hear from the same people who are calling for Inzi's head today. You have no idea what is coming.

 

[Slim]

Apt comparison.

Lots of great players make awful coaches/selectors/analysts.

Inzi has been awful.

You have no clue what you are talking about. Inzamam did have his flaws but he pushed alongwith Mickey for a younger team. We gave chances to SSA, Hasnain etc. under inzamam. He has been relatively one of the best if not the best selector for Pakistan.

Parasad on the other hand couldnt even select a proper Middle order bat for India and is unable to drop Dhoni.

Inzamam dropped Hafeez, Wahab when they were not pefroming. Malik was doing okay for Pakistan, most of the posters here including me supported his selection. His failure in WC is not on inzi.

 

[warcry]

Ramiz Raja for chief selector. Make Hafeez commentate instead. best solution

 

[big_gamer007]

Inzi was good, people don't realise his value. He did good job, in hindsight you can say someof his decisions backfired but overall for 3 years he was good for Pakistan cricket

 

[the Great Khan]

just look at the candidates to replace him..i mean cmon people..MHK is useless..amir is also useless and thinks too much of himself..latif is another uncharismatic loser. Moin khan? lol he will probably select is fat overweight son.. then you have the old guard like Bari, Rashid and Qasim. the most damaging trio to have affected our cricket..

Inzi did a good job..end of..those who hate him, hate him because of his beard and his Islam..I know it you know it..they just try to pretend they don't and use colourful rhetoric to cover their prejudices..(there some obvious culprits barring perhaps one or two)

 

[topspin]

just look at the candidates to replace him..i mean cmon people..MHK is useless..amir is also useless and thinks too much of himself..latif is another uncharismatic loser. Moin khan? lol he will probably select is fat overweight son.. then you have the old guard like Bari, Rashid and Qasim. the most damaging trio to have affected our cricket..

Inzi did a good job..end of..those who hate him, hate him because of his beard and his Islam..I know it you know it..they just try to pretend they don't and use colourful rhetoric to cover their prejudices..(there some obvious culprits barring perhaps one or two)

What a pathetic response.

No he is lazy and simply incompetent for the role, as evident by his selections over the past three years including three notable errors he made in the WC squad:

- Shoaib Malik
- No back up wicket-keeper
- No potent wicket taking spinner

What excuses do you have for him trying out Yasir Shah, just prior to the WC?

72% of PPers (who voted) want him gone because they've had enough of his incompetence, not because of his "beard" and his "Islam".

 

[the Great Khan]

What a pathetic response.

No he is lazy and simply incompetent for the role, as evident by his selections over the past three years including three notable errors he made in the WC squad:

- Shoaib Malik
- No back up wicket-keeper
- No potent wicket taking spinner

What excuses do you have for him trying out Yasir Shah, just prior to the WC?

72% of PPers (who voted) want him gone because they've had enough of his incompetence, not because of his "beard" and his "Islam".

truth hurts..he has been more competent than his predecessors...there are many on this forum who are card carrying anti muslims who masquerade as Muslims....i wont take names but you can see it in their posts..get a bearded Mullah type in a position like selector and they will hate him no matter what..these are the same type of people who were hoping Inzi had actually strangled woolmer..

sorry its controversial but ive been on here long enough to notice this..

 

[the Great Khan]

What a pathetic response.

No he is lazy and simply incompetent for the role, as evident by his selections over the past three years including three notable errors he made in the WC squad:

- Shoaib Malik
- No back up wicket-keeper
- No potent wicket taking spinner

What excuses do you have for him trying out Yasir Shah, just prior to the WC?

72% of PPers (who voted) want him gone because they've had enough of his incompetence, not because of his "beard" and his "Islam".

why did we need a backup keeper when sarfi was fit? we could have called a replacement if required.no need for a backup to then watch the backup take up the space of a batsman or bowler..

Shoaib Malik..yes agree but many on this forum supported this move..i was not one of them

there are no potent wicket taking spinners who could have stepped in..all the gohars etc are unproven and it was totally understandable why inzi made that decision. we had three spinners and haris in the side already..

hardly incompetent decisions..

Incompetency would be dropping babar, haris, and shaheen and selecting TTF's..

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

You have no clue what you are talking about. Inzamam did have his flaws but he pushed alongwith Mickey for a younger team. We gave chances to SSA, Hasnain etc. under inzamam. He has been relatively one of the best if not the best selector for Pakistan.

Parasad on the other hand couldnt even select a proper Middle order bat for India and is unable to drop Dhoni.

Inzamam dropped Hafeez, Wahab when they were not pefroming. Malik was doing okay for Pakistan, most of the posters here including me supported his selection. His failure in WC is not on inzi.

MSK had to listen to superstars (for most part). He's the most spineless selector I have seen.

Inzi was the big boss. He bowed to no one.

MSK is probably worse but comparison is apt.

If you are looking at all selections, then I will say:

1. MSK brought in the 2 wrist spinners whivh helped us win odi series in SA, Aus and Nz.

2. He brought in Bumrah which helped us win Aus test series.

3. He gave chances to Pant, Shubman gill which the team didn't utilize.

4. He brought in Mayank for the Aus test series and he changed the complexion of Aus attack by destroying Lyon.

So looking at all the above, he seems to have done farr better than Inzi.

But that's not the only yardstick to judge selectors is it.

It's about how they plan and build up a team overall.

 

[topspin]

truth hurts..he has been more competent than his predecessors...there are many on this forum who are card carrying anti muslims who masquerade as Muslims....i wont take names but you can see it in their posts..get a bearded Mullah type in a position like selector and they will hate him no matter what..these are the same type of people who were hoping Inzi had actually strangled woolmer..

sorry its controversial but ive been on here long enough to notice this..

He has had a toxic presence in Pakistan cricket since he was made captain, during this time he allowed TeJ to infiltrate Pakistan cricket team. Deen and cricket should be kept separate. It shouldn't be enforced, but this is a culture that has allowed to remain in this side to this very day because he was the driver of this culture change. He basically did what Gen. Zia-ul-Haq did to Pakistan when he became leader.

Moreover, look up his role in Oathgate scandal in 2009 and how he took half of the Pakistan team with him to ICL after his retirement in 2007, which at the time was an unauthoristed cricket league, as per ICC rules. These two incidents prove he didn't have the best interests of the team at heart.

Before the WC he was criticised for setting-up a team meeting with Tariq Jameel, again why is it necessary for our players to meet him? - especially when this guy once said "cricket is shaytan".

After the WC, Sarfraz revealed Inzy was involved with picking the playing XI during the tournament while he was in England for the first half of the team's fixtures. Why is a Chief Selector meddling with decisions that should be made from Sarfraz (and Mickey)? Is it because he wants to ensure they don't discard his nephew from the starting XI? - because that what it looks like.

He has also been accused of forcing his hand to ensure his son was selected for one of the youth teams.

The above makes it clear Inzy has had more than just a bad past and there's no denying it - he's been a toxic presence to Pakistan cricket. Your claim on PPers wanting him gone based on his appearance and his religious mindset simply couldn't be any further from the truth and is a quite an allegation I have to say! He's incompetent and this is compounded further with all the other issues he brings to the side.

 

[Bilal7]

Everyone who's opinion matters realizes how good Inzamam has been for Pakistan cricket. The people hating on him are the whining aunties who are never happy or clueless Indians, who have no real knowledge of Pakistan cricket.

The fact that Pakistan would have reached the World Cup semi-finals and arguably even won the whole thing if one of their matches hadn't rained off tells you everything about the supposed problems in the World Cup squad. This comes only four years after Pakistan had Younis Khan opening for them in ODIs and had a one-man bowling attack.

 

[topspin]

why did we need a backup keeper when sarfi was fit? we could have called a replacement if required.no need for a backup to then watch the backup take up the space of a batsman or bowler..

Shoaib Malik..yes agree but many on this forum supported this move..i was not one of them

there are no potent wicket taking spinners who could have stepped in..all the gohars etc are unproven and it was totally understandable why inzi made that decision. we had three spinners and haris in the side already..

hardly incompetent decisions..

Incompetency would be dropping babar, haris, and shaheen and selecting TTF's..

A back-up was imperative because Sarfraz's batting form and his captaincy going into the tournament were poor and he had a poor WC on both fronts.

In regards to spinners, this is exactly why Zafar Gohar and Mohammad Asghar should have been developed in the side. The problem with Inzy is he when there is no stand-out performer from the PSL, he resorts to familiar names. Hence why he decided to pick Yasir Shah as a back-up to Shadab, just before the WC.

T20Is are supposed to be used to identify potential white ball prospects (at the very least), yet he picked the same set of players against the likes of Ireland, Scotland, Zimbabwe and etc. How are you supposed to figure out your best XI, if you don't test out your bench strength?

Now compared to his predecessors, he is only the Chief Selector that has held this position whilst Pakistan cricket has had a high profile domestic competition (PSL). This alone reflects how miserably he failed during his time in the role, which is why I assume [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] feels Inzy is the worst CS to have ever been appointed by the PCB.

It is simply inexcusable for a CS not be able to rotate the squad for the bilateral T20Is (and some ODIs) even though he has the added benefit of a PSL competition.

Given his lazy approach there is no doubt he would have struggled immensely without PSL finds.

 

[Bilal7]

He has had a toxic presence in Pakistan cricket since he was made captain, during this time he allowed TeJ to infiltrate Pakistan cricket team. Deen and cricket should be kept separate. It shouldn't be enforced, but this is a culture that has allowed to remain in this side to this very day because he was the driver of this culture change. He basically did what Gen. Zia-ul-Haq did to Pakistan when he became leader.

Moreover, look up his role in Oathgate scandal in 2009 and how he took half of the Pakistan team with him to ICL after his retirement in 2007, which at the time was an unauthoristed cricket league, as per ICC rules. These two incidents prove he didn't have the best interests of the team at heart.

Before the WC he was criticised for setting-up a team meeting with Tariq Jameel, again why is it necessary for our players to meet him? - especially when this guy once said "cricket is shaytan".

After the WC, Sarfraz revealed Inzy was involved with picking the playing XI during the tournament while he was in England for the first half of the team's fixtures. Why is a Chief Selector meddling with decisions that should be made from Sarfraz (and Mickey)? Is it because he wants to ensure they don't discard his nephew from the starting XI? - because that what it looks like.

He has also been accused of forcing his hand to ensure his son was selected for one of the youth teams.

The above makes it clear Inzy has had more than just a bad past and there's no denying it - he's been a toxic presence to Pakistan cricket. Your claim on PPers wanting him gone based on his appearance and his religious mindset simply couldn't be any further from the truth and is a quite an allegation I have to say! He's incompetent and this is compounded further with all the other issues he brings to the side.

The only thing that your rant makes clear is that you love indulging in gossiping like an aunty who has nothing better to do. Let me show you exactly why there is not a shred of truth is any of your accusations:

1) If Inzamam was forcing players to join the Tableeghi Jamaat or become more practicing Muslims, why have the players not said anything about it? It makes no sense for known liberals (at least during Inzmam's time) like Akhtar, Asif or Younis to just go along with whatever Inzamam was feeding them. It makes even less sense for these players, along with the last non-Muslim to play for Pakistan, Danish Kaneria, to feature so prominently during Inzamam's captaincy tenure. The fact of the matter is that the Pakistan cricket team as a whole has become closer to the Deen since the 80s and 90s and that is reflective of Pakistani society at large. No one was forced to do anything by Inzamam, they all did it willingly which isn't really a surprise for anyone but a closet atheist or hypocrite.

2) He had no role in the spot-fixing saga. This is a stupid lie that came from the mouth of Intikhab Alam, who wasn't there and didn't know anything about it. One of the players actually involved in the oath-taking, Shoaib Malik, confirmed that the players met up in MoYo's hotel room and that is where they took an oath against Younis Khan. Inzamam was retired by the time the Younis and Yousuf spat emerged and no longer had a stake in the team. He was busy with better things and the fact that he kept those two from each other's throats for that long, as well as keeping away spot-fixing, durg abuses etc from the team in general is simply a credit to his leadership.

3) Once again, you fail to consider that the players might have been thrilled to meet Maulana Tariq Jameel, who is a world-renowned Islamic scholar. As long as no one was forced and there is no indication of that happening, this is a non-issue and once again, only a closet atheist or hypocrite would have an issue with something as minor as this.

4) Imam played pretty much every match in the World Cup and averages 55 in ODIs. It is silly to assume anyone in the team management has even thought of dropping Imam from the playing-XI. He was involved in the team selection because unlike previous selectors, he is not lazy or content with doing the bare minimum but actually wants to see the team do well. That is why he took the initiative to help select the XI when he could have easily sat on a couch like you and criticized the captain and coach.

5) Yes, just like he was accused of forcing everyone's hand to get Imam in the team. Fact of the matter is, there is no proof for this and unless you can find anyone who has been in these meetings accusing Inzamam of nepotism, it is simply not true.

I'm not informed on the ICL stuff so I did not comment on that but looking at the rest of your post, that is most likely another baseless accusation that highlights the ignorance of people peddling it.

 

[Bilal7]

A back-up was imperative because Sarfraz's batting form and his captaincy going into the tournament were poor and he had a poor WC on both fronts.

In regards to spinners, this is exactly why Zafar Gohar and Mohammad Asghar should have been developed in the side. The problem with Inzy is he when there is no stand-out performer from the PSL, he resorts to familiar names. Hence why he decided to pick Yasir Shah as a back-up to Shadab, just before the WC.

T20Is are supposed to be used to identify potential white ball prospects (at the very least), yet he picked the same set of players against the likes of Ireland, Scotland, Zimbabwe and etc. How are you supposed to figure out your best XI, if you don't test out your bench strength?

Now compared to his predecessors, he is only the Chief Selector that has held this position whilst Pakistan cricket has had a high profile domestic competition (PSL). This alone reflects how miserably he failed during his time in the role, which is why I assume [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] feels Inzy is the worst CS to have ever been appointed by the PCB.

It is simply inexcusable for a CS not be able to rotate the squad for the bilateral T20Is (and some ODIs) even though he has the added benefit of a PSL competition.

Given his lazy approach there is no doubt he would have struggled immensely without PSL finds.

Yet again, you engage in 'what-ifs'. The reality is that Inzamam found several players with great potential during his tenure instead of recycling the same, old TTFs like his predecessors. The key to building a good team is to give players the confidence to play their natural game which is why Inzamam opted for consistency in selection. This is particularly important when your team primarily consists of new players who are still figuring out their game. When the opportunity came, he did try out the bench during the series against Australia and we found a couple of potential gems in Mohammad Hasnain and Mohammad Rizwan.

Rizwan was unlucky to miss out on the World Cup squad but selecting the hard-hitting Asif Ali was the right decision going into a tournament where everyone thought the average score would be 320.

 

[topspin]

The only thing that your rant makes clear is that you love indulging in gossiping like an aunty who has nothing better to do. Let me show you exactly why there is not a shred of truth is any of your accusations:

1) If Inzamam was forcing players to join the Tableeghi Jamaat or become more practicing Muslims, why have the players not said anything about it? It makes no sense for known liberals (at least during Inzmam's time) like Akhtar, Asif or Younis to just go along with whatever Inzamam was feeding them. It makes even less sense for these players, along with the last non-Muslim to play for Pakistan, Danish Kaneria, to feature so prominently during Inzamam's captaincy tenure. The fact of the matter is that the Pakistan cricket team as a whole has become closer to the Deen since the 80s and 90s and that is reflective of Pakistani society at large. No one was forced to do anything by Inzamam, they all did it willingly which isn't really a surprise for anyone but a closet atheist or hypocrite.

2) He had no role in the spot-fixing saga. This is a stupid lie that came from the mouth of Intikhab Alam, who wasn't there and didn't know anything about it. One of the players actually involved in the oath-taking, Shoaib Malik, confirmed that the players met up in MoYo's hotel room and that is where they took an oath against Younis Khan. Inzamam was retired by the time the Younis and Yousuf spat emerged and no longer had a stake in the team. He was busy with better things and the fact that he kept those two from each other's throats for that long, as well as keeping away spot-fixing, durg abuses etc from the team in general is simply a credit to his leadership.

3) Once again, you fail to consider that the players might have been thrilled to meet Maulana Tariq Jameel, who is a world-renowned Islamic scholar. As long as no one was forced and there is no indication of that happening, this is a non-issue and once again, only a closet atheist or hypocrite would have an issue with something as minor as this.

4) Imam played pretty much every match in the World Cup and averages 55 in ODIs. It is silly to assume anyone in the team management has even thought of dropping Imam from the playing-XI. He was involved in the team selection because unlike previous selectors, he is not lazy or content with doing the bare minimum but actually wants to see the team do well. That is why he took the initiative to help select the XI when he could have easily sat on a couch like you and criticized the captain and coach.

5) Yes, just like he was accused of forcing everyone's hand to get Imam in the team. Fact of the matter is, there is no proof for this and unless you can find anyone who has been in these meetings accusing Inzamam of nepotism, it is simply not true.

I'm not informed on the ICL stuff so I did not comment on that but looking at the rest of your post, that is most likely another baseless accusation that highlights the ignorance of people peddling it.

I get it you have an obsession with beards as we all know and is very much evident with the way you champion Moeen Ali and Hashim Amla along with Inzy.

Now as you've insinuated I'm an "atheist or hypocrite", I'm going to given you a brief lesson on akhlaq since your post is filled with various inaccuracies and lies. For e.g. Younis Khan being a liberal, oath-gate (the onus is on you to prove Intikhab was lying) and you not being informed about ICL stuff, like you really expect me to believe that?

My Islamic advice to you is if you're going to be dishonest or insincere, don't use the first kalima as a footer of your posts because I take offence to the nature of your material being associated with Allah (SWT) and the Prophet (PBUH).

Secondly, the Prophet (PBUH) said always tell the truth even if it goes against yourself.

Now I will make my way to Jummah and I will ensure to keep you in my prayers, so you can be guided to the straight path.

 

[Bilal7]

I get it you have an obsession with beards as we all know and is very much evident with the way you champion Moeen Ali and Hashim Amla along with Inzy.

Now as you've insinuated I'm an "atheist or hypocrite", I'm going to given you a brief lesson on akhlaq since your post is filled with various inaccuracies and lies. For e.g. Younis Khan being a liberal, oath-gate (the onus is on you to prove Intikhab was lying) and you not being informed about ICL stuff, like you really expect me to believe that?

My Islamic advice to you is if you're going to be dishonest or insincere, don't use the first kalima as a footer of your posts because I take offence to the nature of your material being associated with Allah (SWT) and the Prophet (PBUH).

Secondly, the Prophet (PBUH) said always tell the truth even if it goes against yourself.

Now I will make my way to Jummah and I will ensure to keep you in my prayers, so you can be guided to the straight path.

I already proved that Intikhab was misinformed because his statement is contradicted by Shoaib Malik's, who was actually present at the oath-taking. Read more carefully. The history of Pakistan players and the ICL is something I am not informed about which is why I did not resort to speaking out of my bum. I'm not sure how that constitutes a lie or inaccuracy.

You're clearly flustered and that is okay. Go take a break and ensure you do not peddle lies again because you will be called out sooner rather than later. It's ironic that you're yet again accusing someone of something they did not do which is slander and expressly forbidden in our Deen. Please do pray for me but don't forget to pray for yourself after you do istigfar for dealing in slander and gossip.

 

[Markhor]

For all those claiming Inzamam is the worst CS ever in history of Pak cricket, here's a reminder of Haroon Rasheed's chargesheet and how we lurched from one disaster to another under him.

Any objective observer can see how Inzamam was a massive upgrade over his predecessor.

I thought Iqbal Qasim was bad but this guy is on another level. There are so many blunders I've lost track. Shehryar Khan after this Asia Cup debacle MUST disband the selection committee.

1) The biggest one BY FAR - selecting Khurram Manzoor, a player who didn't even get picked up for the PSL or has even played a single T20I. A batsmen with a SR of 116 in domestic T20 deemed good enough for a T20 WC. If he was in selector's plans why not pick him for the ENG or NZ series ?

2) Selection of Iftikhar Ahmed and Riffatullah Mohmand, two players looking totally inept at international level.

3) Persistence with Anwar Ali come hell or high water.

4) Ahmed Shehzad being given chance after chance, failing, and now possibly on his way back after Manzoor's car crash of an Asia Cup !

5) Complete absence of long-term planning and muddled thinking. Evident in the fact Sami Aslam plays 1 ODI and is dropped, Zia-ul-Haq gets called up for the T20s vs Sri Lanka, doesn't play at all and is dropped. Aamer Yamin plays 3 ODIs and scores a fifty in one and dropped without explanation.

There's just no stability whatsoever ! Far from identifying a core group of 15-20 players and building around them, we've adopted a scattergun selection policy. Instead of rewarding consistency they pick a flavour of the month player who's had one good tournament. Instead of naming an unchanged ODI/T20 squad from one series to another they make mass changes every time. Waqar Younis and Shahid Afridi are also part of the decision making process and MUST be held accountable.

We've got a tough programme of tours this year and god forbid if this guy is still in charge for them.

 

[topspin]

I already proved that Intikhab was misinformed because his statement is contradicted by Shoaib Malik's, who was actually present at the oath-taking. Read more carefully. The history of Pakistan players and the ICL is something I am not informed about which is why I did not resort to speaking out of my bum. I'm not sure how that constitutes a lie or inaccuracy.

You're clearly flustered and that is okay. Go take a break and ensure you do not peddle lies again because you will be called out sooner rather than later. It's ironic that you're yet again accusing someone of something they did not do which is slander and expressly forbidden in our Deen. Please do pray for me but don't forget to pray for yourself after you do istigfar for dealing in slander and gossip.

No you're the flustered one and that's because I exposed your beloved hero, just as I have done with you numerous times - remember when you backed Junaid Khan over Shaheen? Stop making a fool out of yourself and stick to sports in your local region.

No you don't want to speak on Inzamam's involvement in ICL because you will always defend him no matter what he does because you're a sad blind follower who has to go out of his way to portray him to be infallible.

You would choose to go with Shoaib Malik's story because it simply suits your narrative.

If you had any shame you would apologise for indirectly calling me an "closet atheist or hypocrite" but if you feel too proud of doing so, make astaghfar for yourself.

 

[Syed1]

For all those claiming Inzamam is the worst CS ever in history of Pak cricket, here's a reminder of Haroon Rasheed's chargesheet and how we lurched from one disaster to another under him.

Any objective observer can see how Inzamam was a massive upgrade over his predecessor.

So if I get yours and others line of argument correctly, we should have held on with Inzi despite his blunders just because he had fewer blunders than his predecessors? Yeah remind me again how that is a recipe for success. I'll wait.


The only time your argument will make sense if tomorrow we get the news that someone like Haroon Rashid, Iqbal Qasim, Moin Khan or any other numpty is made chief selector, then it would have made sense to keep Inzi.

 

[Markhor]

So if I get yours and others line of argument correctly, we should have held on with Inzi despite his blunders just because he had fewer blunders than his predecessors? Yeah remind me again how that is a recipe for success. I'll wait.


The only time your argument will make sense if tomorrow we get the news that someone like Haroon Rashid, Iqbal Qasim, Moin Khan or any other numpty is made chief selector, then it would have made sense to keep Inzi.

No selector has a 100% record. Even Imran made a mistake backing Mansoor Akhtar to the hilt.

PCB from reports seem set to appoint another fossil from the Bronze Age like Mohsin. Then these Inzy bashers will be asking for his return.

 

[topspin]

No selector has a 100% record. Even Imran made a mistake backing Mansoor Akhtar to the hilt.

PCB from reports seem set to appoint another fossil from the Bronze Age like Mohsin. Then these Inzy bashers will be asking for his return.

Inzy largely benefited from the commencement of PSL, which has given greater exposure for the best performing domestic players in white ball cricket.

If there is no stand-out emerging talents, Inzy will go back to familiar names. This is why he chose Yasir Shah, when Shadab was rested just before the WC. If he wasn't so lazy and incompetent he would have had the vision of developing someone like Zafar Gohar or Mohammad Asghar. It's not just about them suceeding, it's about following the correct process in accordance to appropriate timescales i.e. allowing ample time to develop players in time for the next World Cup, as we did with Babar Azam after the 2015 WC.

We need someone like Bazid Khan or a foreigner as CS. We should not have to settle for Inzy just because we're fearful next guy might be worse.

 

[the Great Khan]

Inzy largely benefited from the commencement of PSL, which has given greater exposure for the best performing domestic players in white ball cricket.

If there is no stand-out emerging talents, Inzy will go back to familiar names. This is why he chose Yasir Shah, when Shadab was rested just before the WC. If he wasn't so lazy and incompetent he would have had the vision of developing someone like Zafar Gohar or Mohammad Asghar. It's not just about them suceeding, it's about following the correct process in accordance to appropriate timescales i.e. allowing ample time to develop players in time for the next World Cup, as we did with Babar Azam after the 2015 WC.

We need someone like Bazid Khan or a foreigner as CS. We should not have to settle for Inzy just because we're fearful next guy might be worse.

I don't think anyone is saying he didn't make mistakes but at the same time listen to what those who have recently retired say about our domestic system. At the end of the day we have failed to develop attacking spinners because they arent used in our four day competition and thus teh PSL has to rely on youngsters like Umar khan.

However this band baaja about Inzi being the antichrist of selectors needs to stop. He wasn't perfect because nobody is but he did a decent job. Sometimes people need to put their prejudices to one side and acknowledge the good..

 

[Markhor]

Inzy largely benefited from the commencement of PSL, which has given greater exposure for the best performing domestic players in white ball cricket.

If there is no stand-out emerging talents, Inzy will go back to familiar names. This is why he chose Yasir Shah, when Shadab was rested just before the WC. If he wasn't so lazy and incompetent he would have had the vision of developing someone like Zafar Gohar or Mohammad Asghar. It's not just about them suceeding, it's about following the correct process in accordance to appropriate timescales i.e. allowing ample time to develop players in time for the next World Cup, as we did with Babar Azam after the 2015 WC.

We need someone like Bazid Khan or a foreigner as CS. We should not have to settle for Inzy just because we're fearful next guy might be worse.

Haroon Rasheed had the benefit of PSL 1 and we bombed spectacularly out of the group stage at the Asia Cup and World T20 !

 

[Mainul]

He did a good job with ODI team but failed miserably with the test side

 

[Obaidd]

No selector has a 100% record. Even Imran made a mistake backing Mansoor Akhtar to the hilt.

PCB from reports seem set to appoint another fossil from the Bronze Age like Mohsin. Then these Inzy bashers will be asking for his return.

Imran was never a selector and nor is he the epitome of cricketing sense. ‘Even Imran’ is a phrase that upsets my gut.

 

[topspin]

Haroon Rasheed had the benefit of PSL 1 and we bombed spectacularly out of the group stage at the Asia Cup and World T20 !

I believe PSL 1 was played in Jan or Feb 2016 and Inzy took over from Haroon Rasheed in time for the Engand tour later that year, so he only really had a few months to exploit this advantage and in all fairness he didn't hinder Sharjeel Khan's progress to the Pakistan T20 side after a terrific showing in the first edition of the PSL, where his runs led him on to be the recipient of the man of the tournament accolade. I don't rate Haroon Rasheed even in the slightest, but this clearly show to me could have lazily just relied upon PSL finds like Inzy did and would have probably gone on to pick more or less the same personnel.

We were always going to crash out of the Asia Cup and World T20 because the team was led by Afridi and we had Waqar as our head coach. This is what you call a perfect recipe for disaster.

 

[Kroll]

Had to go due to the terrible results and WC failure. Selecting Hafeez and Malik as the "backbone" of the ODI team, should be booted for that alone.

 

[Hasan123]

Don't think he is the worst selector , don't think he is the best ever through.

But without a doubt I can say he is the worst type of person to have a selector. This guy couldn't even keep himself looking like an athlete during his playing days. If he could not even do that , how would you expect him to sit through hours of domestic games ? Also he clearly has his favourites which we have seen during his captaincy days.

There are extreme people here. Some think he is a great selector which is a myth. Some think he is a awful selector , which is not the case. He did pick some decent selections like Abbas for tests , Fakhar and Hasan Ali for ODIs.

But after witnessing 3 years of his selections, I do not want him to be a selector ever again due to the reasons I mentioned. Our next selector needs to be willing to take risks and also be able to watch domestic games.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think Inzamam left at the right time (just after the World Cup). It should allow Pakistan to get a fresh start for 2023 World Cup.

 

[Savak]

Azhar Mahmood has clarified that Mickey Arthur was the dominant person in team selections and squad selections in comparison to Sarfaraz and Inzamam.

This needs to be stickied

 

[Cricketrenew]

Great player but as a selector should have been sacked not given the opportunity to step down.

 

[Savak]

Great player but as a selector should have been sacked not given the opportunity to step down.

On what basis? Azhar Mahmood the teams bowling coach under Mickey Arthur has confirmed that Mickey Arthur was given absolute authority on team selection and used to over rule Sarfaraz and Inzamam

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Would be something if we get someone even worse. Now that would be some level of karma.

 

[Cricketrenew]

On what basis? Azhar Mahmood the teams bowling coach under Mickey Arthur has confirmed that Mickey Arthur was given absolute authority on team selection and used to over rule Sarfaraz and Inzamam

It seems like Azhar is passing the blame.....I am pretty sure Mickey would have been given a Squad of lets say 15 then maybe he had complete say on who gets picked for a match..... that doesn't excuse Inzamam….……….

 

[MenInG]

I fell that the selection committee was the real culprit. It was their failure to find better quality players that hurt us more. So good that Inzi left.

 

[kamz]

I fell that the selection committee was the real culprit. It was their failure to find better quality players that hurt us more. So good that Inzi left.

ooooh mening on fire no more politeness and diplomacy, i like it

but what if the farm isnt churning quality players? how would one measure the performance of the selection committee?

Lets put it this way, how would you describe Pakistan cricket's objectives, realistically?

Is it fair to expect that, we shouldnt expect a dip in test performance, post Misbah and Younis?

that is like saying you losing 2 most experienced chaps in your department at work, and your function performance doesnt dip?

Would that be HR's fault?

or shoudl all departments have the objective of winnign the world cup and be number in tests? or should they have different objectives, like in any organisation, with the overall objective being the number 1 in region, or having the most market share

But then the question is again, what should have Pakistan's realistic objective be?

Did we really expect really to win the WC?

I dont think in such scenarios we can blame a single function, its all of them when the company doesnt achieve its objectives, not a fault of a single function or individual

I am sure that Mickey Arthur and Sarfaraz would have been consulted on the squad selected, which means there would have been discussions? so Mickey and Sarfaraz equally at fault

And lets say if the case is that Inzi is of strong character and not easy to argue or debate with, then still that reflects the coach and captain would be of meek character and lack leadership skills or the PCB management lacked leadership skills to allow incompetence in such manner, where one function head dictates other functions role and deliverables

 

[Firebat]

There were certainly some strange selections under Inzi.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Islamabad: Former captain Inzamam-ul-Haq has raised eyebrows on Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) selection committee's decision to announce a big squad for the England tour, fearing that instead of serving the good it may hit back.

Pakistan on Friday announced a 44-member extended squad for the three Tests and three T20s for England trip, slated to be held in in August-September.

"There are 29 players and 15 officials in the squad. I've never seen such a big management and a big team like that," Inzamam said in a video on his YouTube channel.

The 50-year-old, who also served as chief selector national team from April 2016 to July 2017, said that the announcement of an extended team would put extra pressure on the players as each one of them would remain concerned as who would be picked up to become part of the playing eleven.

"It's very surprising. I don't know who has floated the idea to take a tough decision of sending 44 people on the tour. Let's hope that it will benefit Pakistan cricket. But controlling and looking after such a big squad will not an easy task. West Indies are there. I don't think they've brought such a big squad. Our players need confidence; the more they'll have it the better they'll perform. But if a player will keep on worrying during the entire tour that if he will fail to perform he may be replaced with someone else, then it will damage for the team.

https://gulfnews.com/amp/sport/cric...tended-squad-for-england-tour-1.1592151418190

 

[Nasty Naz]

The 50-year-old, who also served as chief selector national team from April 2016 to July 2017, said that the announcement of an extended team would put extra pressure on the players as each one of them would remain concerned as who would be picked up to become part of the playing eleven.

Why is that a bad thing?

Man, the complacency in Pakistan is truly astonishing. Even previous selectors don't want players pushing for each other's job in a competitive way to improve and outperform the person he is competing with. Instead, its more "oh but the player will have too much pressure on him if he even sees someone trying to compete for his job".

Guaranteed selection and no pressure to perform has been a trademark of Pakistan for a long time and its precisely that, which has destroyed Pakistan cricket.