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Did Pakistan miss a trick by including Asif Ali in place of Abid Ali?

syedahsan

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I feel he has done nothing in this world cup other than creating insecurity for the spot he plays at. If Abid Ali was opening we could have had Imam at number 3 which Is almost an opening position specially when early wicket falls which is a usual occurence these days for Pakistan. The second person who has added to the woes is Shoaib Malik who has never historically played well in England. Just being a senior "Bhijaan" he got the ticket for being senior rather than consistent senior specially when has been playing for almost 20 years Allah some how get Pakistan thus world cup how I dont know.
 
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Imam at number 3? We will be 20/4 in quick time really lol

Imam doesn't throw it away. Asif Ali is incompetent through and through. The consistent misfieldings & the catch droppings aren't worth his 20-30 once every 5 matches.
 
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HERE Akbar-ur-Rehman VERY GOOD MIDDLE ORDER BATSMEN LITTLE BIT LEG SPIN ALSO BUT NO PRESSURE TAKING BATSMEN
 
We needed :
abid ali for imam
Umar akmal for asif ali
We have, but dont use, haris for malik
Usman khan shinwari for shaheen
Haris rauf for M. hasnain

What could have been a wonderful pak team with the potential to win the wc, is now a team fighting to stay in the competition after 4 games!

Thank you inzi and mickey!
 
Imam at 3 lmao. We’d be hopping to 280 max in these games batting first, no chance of chasing 300 let alone 300+.

Imam is fine as opener.
 
Pakistan required a fast bowling all rounder .

The team selection is no good , very pedestrian.
 
We needed :
abid ali for imam
Umar akmal for asif ali
We have, but dont use, haris for malik
Usman khan shinwari for shaheen
Haris rauf for M. hasnain

What could have been a wonderful pak team with the potential to win the wc, is now a team fighting to stay in the competition after 4 games!

Thank you inzi and mickey!

Abid Ali?? :)))
 
Abid Ali?? :)))

Abid Ali for sure would have made lots of more runs than Asif Ali, and is 5 times better fielder. If he was given 4 matches against England he would have been ready for the world cup. Asif Ali is in the team merily to hit couple 6s, which Imad, Hasan and Wahab do often, whilst also contributing in bowling.
 
Abid Ali for sure would have made lots of more runs than Asif Ali, and is 5 times better fielder. If he was given 4 matches against England he would have been ready for the world cup. Asif Ali is in the team merily to hit couple 6s, which Imad, Hasan and Wahab do often, whilst also contributing in bowling.

Abid Ali for imam is idiotic which is what I'm trying to say
 
Abid Ali is another cricketer who showed the gap between Pakistan's domestic cricket and international cricket. He is as useless as Asif Ali is .
 
Pakistan missed a trick by including some players that didn't perform. Should have included some other players instead - and if they also failed to perform, tried another set of players.
 
Abid Ali is another cricketer who showed the gap between Pakistan's domestic cricket and international cricket. He is as useless as Asif Ali is .

How by scoring an attractive century in his first match as well as scoring heavily in A games?
In the only chance he got on this tour he only faced few balls before being harshly given out lbw by trigger happy umpire. To naked eye it was a 50 50 call. How can you judge someone with one chance on the overseas tour?
 
Abid Ali for imam is idiotic which is what I'm trying to say
Yes I agree then Imam is far ahead in terms of experience he has gained above Abid Ali and also the guy has performed more often than not, but it's his had luck when he scored others do not do much.
 
Pakistan missed the trick by excluding Hussain Talat from the worl cup squad. He is far better then the hack Asif Ali but again this is what clueless fans wanted. Hope they play Harris and Shadab against India.
 
No. Abid Ali is nothing special whereas Asif Ali is the only available power-hitter
 
Pakistan did their usual trick of waiting until too close to the world cup before trying out options. It wasn't apparent until too late that Asif was a flat track bully who wilts under world cup pressure. If he'd been exposed a couple of years earlier, we could have established this before it was too late.

No doubt we will do the same thing again after this world cup is over. Talk about testing out new players, then just drift along with the same old faces as long as we are beating Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe.
 
This was a shameless and opportunistic decision by chief selector Inzamam. Nowhere in the world an opener is ousted for a 5th position batsman. But he used the opportunity to remove Abid so that his passenger nephew can't be removed. Team management and coach Arthur are terribly concerned about the accumulators in the batting order who can't even manage a 100 strike rate, they cannot even accelerate. Team management took this gamble which is useless as Asif bats in the lower order before tailenders.
You don't need a specific power-hitter if you had the likes of Sharjeel Khan, Umair Yousuf or even Abid Ali who can play and accelerate
Can't blame Asif for this.
 
Abid Ali and Asif Ali? How does the comparison stands unless Abid Ali is the aggressive middle order batsman we have all been waiting for.

You could have argued for Khushdil Shah (Avgs 47 with SR of 98 and 8 centuries, 24 years of age with decent off spin bowling) and Iftikhar Ahmed who is a big hitter and a better off spinner than many of our batting all rounders. You could have even argued with Umar Akmal over him but Abid Ali is not a man to man comparison with Asif Ali in anwway unless we are comparing two guys with Ali as their surname.
 
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Pakistan missed the trick by excluding Hussain Talat from the worl cup squad. He is far better then the hack Asif Ali but again this is what clueless fans wanted. Hope they play Harris and Shadab against India.

Talat is awful, barely FC.
 
Abid Ali and Asif Ali? How does the comparison stands unless Abid Ali is the aggressive middle order batsman we have all been waiting for.

You could have argued for Khushdil Shah (Avgs 47 with SR of 98 and 8 centuries, 24 years of age with decent off spin bowling) and Iftikhar Ahmed who is a big hitter and a better off spinner than many of our batting all rounders. You could have even argued with Umar Akmal over him but Abid Ali is not a man to man comparison with Asif Ali in anwway unless we are comparing two guys with Ali as their surname.

Abid Ali has a solid back foot game but here the who issue is nonsensical.

All over the world
Power hitter or pinch hitters are put in top order or middle order not before tailenders at #6 or #7.

Team management is suffering as it can't replace Imam, Malik or Babar who are useless if the target is above 6 runs per over. Counting on Fakhar to fire at the top with these accumulators slumbering along till the 40 overs with another power hitting by Asif Ali. This strategy is bound to fail 7 out of 10 times.
 
Asif Ali is terrible and his list A average suggests that.

He shouldn't be in the team unless the team has a good no 6, then come at 7 to do some slogging.
 
All over the world
Power hitter or pinch hitters are put in top order or middle order not before tailenders at #6 or #7.

Solid point made. I agree Pak is missing the trick here but we have been witnessing such poor strategies and planning since couple of years now so what can we expect.
 
Asif Ali is terrible and his list A average suggests that.

He shouldn't be in the team unless the team has a good no 6, then come at 7 to do some slogging.

Haris is not good either because he is lazy but he should be in the team at 4 because he is better than Asif and Malik,with Hafeez at 5.
 
Abid Ali has a solid back foot game but here the who issue is nonsensical.

All over the world
Power hitter or pinch hitters are put in top order or middle order not before tailenders at #6 or #7.

Team management is suffering as it can't replace Imam, Malik or Babar who are useless if the target is above 6 runs per over. Counting on Fakhar to fire at the top with these accumulators slumbering along till the 40 overs with another power hitting by Asif Ali. This strategy is bound to fail 7 out of 10 times.

Any top order must have the ablity to play over 60 to 70 balls to create an impact , don't think we have those players that can hit big and occupy crease. 99% of them are hacks in our domestic circuit.

Make no mistake, likes of Roy, Bairwtow, Dhawan, Rohit, De Qock, Kohli and Warner(when in form) are proper batsmen who can hit at will but defend when its needed. They know how to occupy crease with a decent SR. Fakhar is not their league and shouldn't be a benchmark for young Pakistan batsmen
 
Any top order must have the ablity to play over 60 to 70 balls to create an impact , don't think we have those players that can hit big and occupy crease. 99% of them are hacks in our domestic circuit.

Make no mistake, likes of Roy, Bairwtow, Dhawan, Rohit, De Qock, Kohli and Warner(when in form) are proper batsmen who can hit at will but defend when its needed. They know how to occupy crease with a decent SR. Fakhar is not their league and shouldn't be a benchmark for young Pakistan batsmen

Agree, he's a glorified slogger who has no sense when to go and when to hold. I find it tiresome seeing him compared to guys who are clearly far better developed batsmen. Fakhar scored spectacularly when he first came on the stage, but he has a limited range of strokes and footwork so the better teams have already worked him out. Sharjeel is a far better quality left hand hitter, but he's sold out so not really worth talking about now.
 
No matter which way you look at it, Inzi and his selection minions are responsible for selecting just one spare batsman in Haris Sohail for the squad. Obviously Abid Ali would never have made it since he is a direct threat to nephew's spot, but they could have fostered and selected other middle order batsmen who could have been brought in place of Malik and Asif.
 
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