'Disconnected from ground reality': GOI slams Global Hunger Index ranking India behind Pakistan

[MenInG]

The Indian government today outright rejected the Global Hunger Index (GHI) 2022 report which showed New Delhi at 107th position out of 121 countries. The Indian government called it an 'erroneous measure of hunger' that suffers from 'serious methodological issues.' Notably, India is behind its neighbours Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Nepal in the current GHI 2022.

"Index is an erroneous measure of hunger & suffers from serious methodological issues. The report isn't only disconnected from ground reality but also chooses to deliberately ignore efforts made by Govt to ensure food security for population, especially during the Covid pandemic," a statement by the government of India on Global Hunger Report 2022 read.
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"Taking a one-dimensional view, the report lowers India's rank based on the estimate of the Proportion of the Undernourished (Pol) population for India at 16.3%. The FAO estimate is based on the 'Food Insecurity Experience Scale (FIES) Survey Module' conducted through Gallop World Poll, which is an 'opinion poll' based on '8 questions' with a sample size of 3000 respondents," the statement further read.

Notably, the Opposition slammed the ruling BJP over the report. "When will the Hon'ble PM address real issues like malnutrition, hunger, and stunting and wasting among children?" tweeted senior Congress leader P Chidambaram.

The said report is prepared jointly by the Irish aid agency Concern Worldwide and the German organisation Welt Hunger Hilfe and has termed the level of hunger in India 'serious'.

The GHI score is calculated on four indicators - undernourishment; child wasting (the share of children under the age of five who are wasted i.e who have low weight for their height, reflecting acute undernutrition); child stunting (children under the age of five who have low height for their age, reflecting chronic undernutrition) and child mortality (the mortality rate of children under the age of five).

https://www.timesnownews.com/india/...anking-india-behind-pakistan-article-94884344

 

[James]

107th out of 121, that’s extremely poor.

 

[KingKhanWC]

You will not solve your nations problems unless you accept reality.

Sadly many well off Indians believe India is no longer a 3rd nation because its a huge nation with a huge population bringing in a lot of money.

 

[ElRaja]

another stat where bangladesh beats Pakistan and india.

not surprising tho, Pakistani agricultural resources are terribly mismanaged, and indians project images of the wealthiest most developed states and just try to hide the poverty, like is attempted in the OP, and like posters on this forum will no doubt attempt to do.

 

[rhony]

Just another neo liberal propaganda. India has been feeding millions since pandemic and food security has been the least of the problems for three years now. One of these institutions called Sri Lanka a beacon in happiness index. It was a laughing stock when the pictures of Sri Lankans raided the presidential palace a few weeks earlier. Soros is getting desperate and we just have to wait for him to pass.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Just another neo liberal propaganda. India has been feeding millions since pandemic and food security has been the least of the problems for three years now. One of these institutions called Sri Lanka a beacon in happiness index. It was a laughing stock when the pictures of Sri Lankans raided the presidential palace a few weeks earlier. Soros is getting desperate and we just have to wait for him to pass.

How many Indian citizens(In india) are living below the poverty line?

 

[JaDed]

I’m guessing when it comes to India -Europeans are truthful and we should accept it , they are only wrong when they speak against Pakistan China or Russia.
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On the topic definitely an issue in rural areas esp far off, they need to get Midday Meals to go through quality index programs.

It’s hopefully time for Private organizations to get involved, farm bills could had so helped in our massive supply chain issues, it would remain BJPS biggest failure to not be able to pass the bills inspite of huge mandates and now Delhi will burn with the smoke anyway because farmers will not follow the law either.

 

[PakLFC]

India's obsession with everything Pakistan will not resolved their issues. I gain no joy in saying India is dirt poor and starving. Indian people would have taken this as the ultimate truth had they been shown better then Pakistan. Now that it shows them much below it is false and an attack on India.

 

[Champ_Pal]

I don't believe this stat. Sure there is poverty, but 107th place is a joke.

Its things like these that make liberals look like morons.

 

[cricketjoshila]

These indexes are a joke. Made by private NGOs.

India has been sending food aid to Lanka, and Lanka is above India.

 

[rhony]

How many Indian citizens(In india) are living below the poverty line?

Around 220 million Indians living in India live in absolute poverty. They are the first ones to get government food aid. If at all there is any authenticity to the report, the quality of the food reaching these people is probably in question. Nutrition in India is questionable, not just for the poor, considering historical traditional diets which are light on meat. The skinny twigs in Bangladesh probably are ranked higher because they eat more meat. Atleast that must be the perception. So, my best guess is India is probably ranked in the 80s above most Asian nations with required improvements in protein rich diet.

 

[Gollum]

Clearly South Asia is the biggest pool of people in poverty on the face of the earth. This acceptance will be first step before working on ways to bring people out of poverty. Looks like India is not ready to accept it.

 

[Bewal Express]

The Inds are just as poor as poor us and going by these stats, their poor are even poorer than ours.

 

[Varun]

Modi and his supporters have a questionable IQ.

Just a few days ago he was all gaga that the IMF claimed India was a beacon of hope in an otherwise stale global economy. Now when a similar global body calls it like it is he and his cult followers throw a tanty.

They're playing him like a fiddle.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

So GOI's only problem is India's ranking below Pakistan? May be they wanted to boast about India's ranking in Global Hunger Index in front of jaahil andhbhakhts but couldn't do so?

 

[Zaz]

Time to face reality india burying your head in sand and getting all irate against people telling the truth isnt going to solve your third world problems

 

[MP2011]

Bhakts are hilarious. Whatever shows their master in poor light or when facts are not as per whatever their master feeds them, they throw their toys out of pram and say those rankings are biased.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Modi and his supporters have a questionable IQ.

Just a few days ago he was all gaga that the IMF claimed India was a beacon of hope in an otherwise stale global economy. Now when a similar global body calls it like it is he and his cult followers throw a tanty.

They're playing him like a fiddle.

What global body? When did a German NGO became a global body akin to IMF?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Time to face reality india burying your head in sand and getting all irate against people telling the truth isnt going to solve your third world problems

What reality? That the countries thst received food grains as aid from India are ahead of India in hunger index?

 

[ahsan17]

What reality? That the countries thst received food grains as aid from India are ahead of India in hunger index?

Why do you think the two are mutually exclusive?

 

[Technics 1210]

I agree with the article in the OP, the rankings compiled are indeed disconnected from reality, otherwise, India would be 120th in the rankings.

 

[Bewal Express]

Lest we forget, behind these terrible stats are people and as always in both countries, they are faceless. It doesn't *****k the conscience of our elites

 

[SalimBhai]

India and pakistán very poor countries , with a large percentage living in extreme poverty. Nothing to be proud of for both countries

 

[sweep_shot]

The ranking doesn't surprise me.

India have a huge population and a large percentage of that population is in poverty.

Rather than addressing the issue, I see some bakhts are getting defensive.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The ranking doesn't surprise me.

India have a huge population and a large percentage of that population is in poverty.

Rather than addressing the issue, I see some bakhts are getting defensive.

Ask Bangladesh to not ask for grains from India then.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...ks-62-mt-for-imports/article65503634.ece/amp/

India is surplus in many food grains and supplies to many countries. Including as aid.

Also we are having to feed 100s of 1000s of illegal bangladeshis, who continue to pour in into India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why do you think the two are mutually exclusive?

Because it is. India gives free ration to the poor people. Its surplus in many food grains and certain countries are dependent on India for food grains.

 

[sweep_shot]

Ask Bangladesh to not ask for grains from India then.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...ks-62-mt-for-imports/article65503634.ece/amp/

India is surplus in many food grains and supplies to many countries. Including as aid.

Also we are having to feed 100s of 1000s of illegal bangladeshis, who continue to pour in into India.

Bangladesh - 84.
India - 107.

Deflection as usual.

 

[Mirpuri Don]

What reality? That the countries thst received food grains as aid from India are ahead of India in hunger index?

Aid is a weapon in foreign policy.

The US gives a lot in aid yet has millions of poor/homeless at home.

India giving food away as a geopolitical token doesn't mean it has an excess of food.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Bangladesh - 84.
India - 107.

Deflection as usual.

Bangladesh is dependent on India for food grains.

NGO 0
Reality 1

 

[Gollum]

So GOI's only problem is India's ranking below Pakistan? May be they wanted to boast about India's ranking in Global Hunger Index in front of jaahil andhbhakhts but couldn't do so?

If it makes GoI feel better and make them do something about poverty, GHI should fudge some numbers to have India one place ahead of Pakistan.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Around 220 million Indians living in India live in absolute poverty. They are the first ones to get government food aid. If at all there is any authenticity to the report, the quality of the food reaching these people is probably in question. Nutrition in India is questionable, not just for the poor, considering historical traditional diets which are light on meat. The skinny twigs in Bangladesh probably are ranked higher because they eat more meat. Atleast that must be the perception. So, my best guess is India is probably ranked in the 80s above most Asian nations with required improvements in protein rich diet.

Do you have a source for this, imo the figure is much much higher? Acc to you 1 billion Indians are living a comfortable life? Please stop.

 

[IndoorCricket]

Do you have a source for this, imo the figure is much much higher? Acc to you 1 billion Indians are living a comfortable life? Please stop.

Take a look your self

https://www.theglobalstatistics.com/poverty-in-india-statistics-2021/

According to World Poverty Clock, the number of people who are living in poverty is 83,068,597 (83 million) or roughly 6% of the population. There are 37,767,473 males and 45,301,124 females impacted by poverty in India. Females are more affected than males.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Take a look your self

https://www.theglobalstatistics.com/poverty-in-india-statistics-2021/

According to World Poverty Clock, the number of people who are living in poverty is 83,068,597 (83 million) or roughly 6% of the population. There are 37,767,473 males and 45,301,124 females impacted by poverty in India. Females are more affected than males.

7% is extreme poverty.

These stats seems more accurate to me.

"There are more children living in poverty in India (156 million) than the populations of the UK and Germany combined.
Of the 365 million Indians living in ‘multidimensional poverty’ (meaning they lack not just money but food, housing, education, sanitation and other essentials) more than 1 in 3 are children."

In India, poor sanitation and hygiene translate into an estimated 1000 children under five years of age dying from diarrhoea every day
"

https://www.sla-india.org/about-us/... are more children living,1 in 3 are children.

 

[cricketjoshila]

7% is extreme poverty.

These stats seems more accurate to me.

"There are more children living in poverty in India (156 million) than the populations of the UK and Germany combined.
Of the 365 million Indians living in ‘multidimensional poverty’ (meaning they lack not just money but food, housing, education, sanitation and other essentials) more than 1 in 3 are children."

In India, poor sanitation and hygiene translate into an estimated 1000 children under five years of age dying from diarrhoea every day
"

https://www.sla-india.org/about-us/... are more children living,1 in 3 are children.

Ofcourse you like random NGOs stats to support your agenda.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Ofcourse you like random NGOs stats to support your agenda.

Lol. A random anonymous Indian poster calling out an NGO on credentials.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Ofcourse you like random NGOs stats to support your agenda.

Id rather take their view over a bias Indian poster.

Let me guess according to you India is no longer a 3rd world nation?

 

[JaDed]

The ranking doesn't surprise me.

India have a huge population and a large percentage of that population is in poverty.

Rather than addressing the issue, I see some bakhts are getting defensive.

Majority of your threads are against western organizations this one is quintessentially western ,atleast try to have less bias or just accept that you believe in western organizations.

 

[JaDed]

Id rather take their view over a bias Indian poster.

Let me guess according to you India is no longer a 3rd world nation?

Good on you for accepting Western standards, about time.

Now what do you think is the solution except for supply chain issue being one as grain gets wasted, for which I have already said BJP chickened out on the farm bills .

 

[ahsan17]

Because it is. India gives free ration to the poor people. Its surplus in many food grains and certain countries are dependent on India for food grains.

Well US has food stamps and other programs for poor people (e.g. Medicaid) yet they often go hungry and have poor access to healthcare. So I just don't see how your conclusion follows from your premise.

 

[sweep_shot]

Well US has food stamps and other programs for poor people (e.g. Medicaid) yet they often go hungry and have poor access to healthcare. So I just don't see how your conclusion follows from your premise.

He is clueless.

He seems to think just because India gives food to other countries, India has surplus of food.

 

[Hitman]

I'm sure Barkha Dutt would gladly lose 25 kgs to prove the list to be accurate.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

India and their thin-skinnedness never fails to disappoint

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

I’ve heard from many non Asians who have visited india that poverty there is a different level than one can fathom. The images of the migrants walking back to villages still give me shudders

 

[SalimBhai]

I’ve heard from many non Asians who have visited india that poverty there is a different level than one can fathom. The images of the migrants walking back to villages still give me shudders

The poverty level in India is very similar to Pakistan.

 

[IndoorCricket]

7% is extreme poverty.

These stats seems more accurate to me.

"There are more children living in poverty in India (156 million) than the populations of the UK and Germany combined.
Of the 365 million Indians living in ‘multidimensional poverty’ (meaning they lack not just money but food, housing, education, sanitation and other essentials) more than 1 in 3 are children."

In India, poor sanitation and hygiene translate into an estimated 1000 children under five years of age dying from diarrhoea every day
"

https://www.sla-india.org/about-us/... are more children living,1 in 3 are children.

Not sure how posting stats from world poverty watch is bias posting. You can check yourself https://worldpoverty.io/map

This is actually backed by world data watch datasets and it is supported by german federal ministry for economic cooperation & development. You link has just has a statement without any actual data backing. It just shows your confirmation bias and you are ready to trust any source which suites your agenda.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Well US has food stamps and other programs for poor people (e.g. Medicaid) yet they often go hungry and have poor access to healthcare. So I just don't see how your conclusion follows from your premise.

Again. Some people going hungry doesn't mean India is at 107.

 

[cricketjoshila]

He is clueless.

He seems to think just because India gives food to other countries, India has surplus of food.

India has surplus thats why India gives.

 

[Varun]

Again. Some people going hungry doesn't mean India is at 107.

Which rank should we be in your world, and what methodology will you use to evaluate the hunger in all 200 countries on the map to arrive at that figure?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The poverty level in India is very similar to Pakistan.

No one is under any illusions that Pakistan is a poor country.

 

[sweep_shot]

India has surplus thats why India gives.

So, nobody is hungry in India. Right?

India should be #1 then.

Can't believe you are this naive. You don't seem to have any idea how these "giving" stuffs work.

 

[RajBan]

Folks contesting this rank have no clue what happens in the interiors. The scene in Swadesh movie 20 years back is actually how it happens in several parts of the country even today. Yes, we are a food surplus nation, but it is equally true that grain does not reach to every poor household. Distribution of grains due to lack of storage and infrastructure, stockpiling by rich farmer, hoarding by corrupt brokers has been rampant and you will only realize the suffering of little kids when you travel through those remote areas. The ranking can very well be 101 or 93 instead of 107 but it does not negate the suffering and the fact that we need to do lot more to get to a position of dignity.

 

[RajBan]

Again. Some people going hungry doesn't mean India is at 107.

India is actually at 107 unless we have data to prove otherwise. Not everything is a conspiracy theory.

 

[gani999]

So, nobody is hungry in India. Right?

India should be #1 then.

Can't believe you are this naive. You don't seem to have any idea how these "giving" stuffs work.

The report is based on 'undernourishment' and not 'hunger'. These are two different things.
A lot of the rich and middle class Indians are undernourished too, thanks to their carbohydrate-rich, vegetarian diet low on protein. They are not hungry by any means. The same holds for India's poor.

Eating well does not always mean providing adequate nourishment.

 

[cricketjoshila]

India is actually at 107 unless we have data to prove otherwise. Not everything is a conspiracy theory.

What's the data used by this German NGO?

How come countries which depend on grains from India are placed ahead in the ranking?

Lanka is ahead? How? 2 months back they didn't have money to pay for import of grains. India donated them.

These NGO rankings are as per their wishes.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Again. Some people going hungry doesn't mean India is at 107.

Are we talking about 2-3k people here?

 

[RajBan]

What's the data used by this German NGO?

How come countries which depend on grains from India are placed ahead in the ranking?

Lanka is ahead? How? 2 months back they didn't have money to pay for import of grains. India donated them.

These NGO rankings are as per their wishes.

That's really a reputed organization who conducts this study and universally acknowledged.

 

[gani999]

What's the data used by this German NGO?

How come countries which depend on grains from India are placed ahead in the ranking?

Lanka is ahead? How? 2 months back they didn't have money to pay for import of grains. India donated them.

These NGO rankings are as per their wishes.

They are looking at undernourishment and associated factors like child stunting and mortality. These are parameters related to malnourishment and not hunger.

India may produce surplus foodgrains but eating grains along will not give you enough nutrition. You can stuff yourselves with rice and wheat and still be malnourished.

Sri Lanka may not have enough foodgrains, but they can eat fish from the sea and still be better nourished than Indians.

As I've said before, even plenty of rich and middle class Indians are malnourished despite having plenty to eat.

It's the lack of protein and excessive carbohydrate intake that is to blame.

 

[ZafarKhan2022]

good report

 

[gani999]

Pakistan, ranked at 99, is not all that higher than India.

Very worrying for an agrarian country with a sixth of India's population, and where most people are meat eaters.

Looks like there is quite a lot of real hunger out there.

 

[cricketjoshila]

That's really a reputed organization who conducts this study and universally acknowledged.

Reputed? NGOs work as per their funding.

 

[cricketjoshila]

They are looking at undernourishment and associated factors like child stunting and mortality. These are parameters related to malnourishment and not hunger.

India may produce surplus foodgrains but eating grains along will not give you enough nutrition. You can stuff yourselves with rice and wheat and still be malnourished.

Sri Lanka may not have enough foodgrains, but they can eat fish from the sea and still be better nourished than Indians.

As I've said before, even plenty of rich and middle class Indians are malnourished despite having plenty to eat.

It's the lack of protein and excessive carbohydrate intake that is to blame.

Malnutrition and hunger index are two different things. Not at all interchangeable.

Pulses, Soyabean etc have good protein content.

Also Protein Energy Malnutrition are different for different scales

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Pakistan, ranked at 99, is not all that higher than India.

Very worrying for an agrarian country with a sixth of India's population, and where most people are meat eaters.

Looks like there is quite a lot of real hunger out there.

Pakistan imports grain so not all that surprising. But you aren’t seeing any Pakistanis denying it issue so hope is that people will look at it seriously. Way better than putting head in sand like an ostrich.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Pakistan imports grain so not all that surprising. But you aren’t seeing any Pakistanis denying it issue so hope is that people will look at it seriously. Way better than putting head in sand like an ostrich.

That's true. I have hardly seen any Pakistani defending this. Pakistanis in general are the biggest critiques of their own country, politicians and their sports teams. Whereas most of our people turn a blind eye to problems like these and never accept this. Look at some of the above posts for example.

 

[Gollum]

There is no poverty in India and everyone goes to sleep with their belly full (even the most developed of countries don't make this kind of ridiculous claim).

Let's close this thread and proceed to sue this God-forsaken NGO immediately!

 

[ahsan17]

Again. Some people going hungry doesn't mean India is at 107.

Pakistan donates to countries (e.g. Afghanistan) in natural disasters even though it probably really needs the money. Lot of other countries do similar. How do you explain poor countries donating even though they could really use the money at home?