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How many of you guys feel the need for everything - or at least your room (if not your house) - to be perfectly clean and presentable? The constant urge to clean and have everything be aesthetically pleasing to look at. I personally have not been diagnosed with OCD, but then again, I've never gotten it checked but I feel like I have the symptoms and sometimes it drives me a little crazy. There is a constant feeling of dissatisfaction if my room isn't clean and not looking like something straight out of a home decor magazine.

Not being able to work or even spend my leisure time unless and until my work area is perfect is routine basically. I don't think I'm a germophobe but the smallest of things will leave me thinking. For example, I recently had a little bit of paint chipped off from the corner my table and initially I thought it wouldn't be much of a problem but it started to drive me crazy and I had to have the entire polishing and paint job done for me to start functioning normally again or to use that table, at the very least. And this is just one example.

Surely, this is not normal. But I've come to accept it and don't have too many problems with it. But, I was just thinking, how many else of you suffer from this obsessiveness?
 
Get a diagnosis, and talk to a therapist. If it is OCD, then depending on your personality type, they will recommend coping techniques. It really helps.

I have first-hand experience of it myself, and my wife suffers from an acute version. I can tell you that the longer you do not see a specialist, the worse it will get. They say there are medications for it now, but the prospect of taking mind-altering drugs is terrifying. The coping techniques are better, and although it never goes away, that feeling of unease diminishes enough that you learn to keep it in check.
 
My OCD manifested itself in my desire for symmetry and balance. There was a time when, if I banged my knee on something, I would intentionally bang the other knee too, just to even things out. And then, I would try to gauge if the pain in the two knees really was equal, and if not, I would try to balance it out with another round of banging knees against the object until I finally got it right. Needless to say, it looked extremely odd to anyone watching, not to mention the waste of time and the physical pain that came with this exercise in futility.

The desire is still there, but I've learnt over time that the discomfort lasts only for as long as I dwell on it, and I've taught myself to jump into whatever I was supposed to be doing to distract myself. That is a first-level coping skill, as they call it, and for certain personality types, that alone suffices. I've had to go deeper than that, being an INFP.
 
Get a diagnosis, and talk to a therapist. If it is OCD, then depending on your personality type, they will recommend coping techniques. It really helps.

I have first-hand experience of it myself, and my wife suffers from an acute version. I can tell you that the longer you do not see a specialist, the worse it will get. They say there are medications for it now, but the prospect of taking mind-altering drugs is terrifying. The coping techniques are better, and although it never goes away, that feeling of unease diminishes enough that you learn to keep it in check.

Thanks for the comment and advice.

Yes, I may get a diagnosis some time in the future but in the past I've felt like knowing the reality may make the situation worse. You know, the self pity and all. But I agree, getting treatment is always the way forward.
 
My OCD manifested itself in my desire for symmetry and balance. There was a time when, if I banged my knee on something, I would intentionally bang the other knee too, just to even things out. And then, I would try to gauge if the pain in the two knees really was equal, and if not, I would try to balance it out with another round of banging knees against the object until I finally got it right. Needless to say, it looked extremely odd to anyone watching, not to mention the waste of time and the physical pain that came with this exercise in futility.

The desire is still there, but I've learnt over time that the discomfort lasts only for as long as I dwell on it, and I've taught myself to jump into whatever I was supposed to be doing to distract myself. That is a first-level coping skill, as they call it, and for certain personality types, that alone suffices. I've had to go deeper than that, being an INFP.

Dealing with that sounds like a pain!

I've always known I had a problem with everything having to look symmetrical and right out of a designer magazine but in my teenage years, things got really bad and I would wake up in the middle of the night and start cleaning my room. In fact, sometimes I would contemplate sleeping on the floor to avoid wrinkling my bed sheets. But gradually, I've learned to let things be, a little. But then a few things really hit me in the brain. For example, there's a little mark on the door and I know I won't be able to function properly until I get it removed.
 
Thanks for the comment and advice.

Yes, I may get a diagnosis some time in the future but in the past I've felt like knowing the reality may make the situation worse. You know, the self pity and all. But I agree, getting treatment is always the way forward.

Yes, I went through the ignorance-is-bliss phase too. Add to that the fact that when I was growing up, people were likely to mock you for such a condition, and if you did see a psychiatrist and people found out, they would make snide remarks about you not being right in the head, crazy etc. I had to tell myself that the health of the mind is just as important as the health of the body, and there's no shame in seeking help if I need it.
 
Yes, I went through the ignorance-is-bliss phase too. Add to that the fact that when I was growing up, people were likely to mock you for such a condition, and if you did see a psychiatrist and people found out, they would make snide remarks about you not being right in the head, crazy etc. I had to tell myself that the health of the mind is just as important as the health of the body, and there's no shame in seeking help if I need it.

Thankfully I've always had a very supportive environment. Its been my own callousness that stopped me from getting treatment, or a diagnosis.
 
Dealing with that sounds like a pain!

I've always known I had a problem with everything having to look symmetrical and right out of a designer magazine but in my teenage years, things got really bad and I would wake up in the middle of the night and start cleaning my room. In fact, sometimes I would contemplate sleeping on the floor to avoid wrinkling my bed sheets. But gradually, I've learned to let things be, a little. But then a few things really hit me in the brain. For example, there's a little mark on the door and I know I won't be able to function properly until I get it removed.

The trouble is, this gets exacerbated over time, because OCD makes you feel like things are out of control, because, well, they are for someone with OCD. The desire for control makes you look at things you can control, such as the cleanliness of your room, among others. But it is never enough, because the more you engage in this exercise, the more things you'll notice that could be cleaned, and on and on and on.

My wife actually does exactly this. Our house is so clean it feels like something from a home improvement magazine. People who visit us say it feels almost sterile, as if people don't live there. But its a never-ending cycle, and the underlying cause is this desire for control.
 
The trouble is, this gets exacerbated over time, because OCD makes you feel like things are out of control, because, well, they are for someone with OCD. The desire for control makes you look at things you can control, such as the cleanliness of your room, among others. But it is never enough, because the more you engage in this exercise, the more things you'll notice that could be cleaned, and on and on and on.

This exactly describes what it feels like. A constant feeling of restlessness. Or as you refer to it in Urdu, the constant feeling of baychaini. And just like you said, its a never ending cycle, one thing leads to another and you end up spending hours and hours just cleaning.

My wife actually does exactly this. Our house is so clean it feels like something from a home improvement magazine. People who visit us say it feels almost sterile, as if people don't live there. But its a never-ending cycle, and the underlying cause is this desire for control.

I can relate very much to that and frankly speaking, having your room or house look aesthetically pleasing and really clean, or as you put it - abandoned - does make me (and other people with the same problem) feel bloody good. I've actually done a lot of research on this subject and doctors say that when people with OCD satisfy their obsessive compulsive needs, they have a serious dopamine rush leading to them feeling ecstatic. I guess from there on it turns from an obsession to an addiction and that's when things get really bad.

Also, I think its not only about how you feel after you've done whatever it is that satisfies the obsession but also the fact that their is feeling of constant of restlessness when you feel things are not the way they're supposed to be. Not only do I have problems working, studying unless my room looks like something from a show home but also I can't spend my leisure time properly. Always a lack of concentration.
 
I recommend hypnotherapy. Find someone NLP trained.
 
Do you have hyperactivity aswell? Like ADHD or something?

Dont think so. ADHD is different. Im not even sure if I have OCD to begin with since I've never really had a diagnosis. I think I'm what they call an 'Obsessive Compulsive Cleaner'.
 
I have some symptoms of OCD (doing things a certain amount of times, counting steps, words in a sentence, letters in a word etc) and ADD, but it doesn't affect me much.
 
I have heard its a problem which can be controlled but not cured. It has different forms. Some get obsessed towarda cleanliness, some get obsessed towards checking again and again that the doors are locked , gas and electric appliances are switched off etc etc.

I have a close family member who has OCD related to cleanliness and its a struggle for him. He doesnt touch anything outside his house unless it is absolutely necessary and it lands him in embarrasing situations when others ridicule him.

Once i had to travel with him. We stopped a taxi and as i entered it and sat on the back seat, this guy kept standing outside and staring at the seats. Eventually he asked me to get out and find another taxi because the seats didnt look clean enough. The seats were absolutely fine imo. The driver went nuts and kept asking for the reason we rejected him for. We literally rejected 4-5 taxis after that before finally getting in one and he looked extremely uncomfortable in the one we finally boarded. It was such an embarrasment for me personally but i didnt know what to do.

I really wish the best of luck to all such people and pray that it doesnt happen to anyone.
 
I suffered from an OCD for around three months as a result of being intolerant towards my thyroid medicine (Levothyroxine and Liothyronine). I´d reset the position of my glasses on my nose all the time, especially whilst watching TV.

Let me assure you, that that was just the beginning of a horror!
With time, the intolerance of the aforementioned medicine led to extreme restless behaviour, tremors and insomnia. So as [MENTION=22846]Nostalgic[/MENTION] said, over time, if left untreated and if it has already become an issue, it can get really worse.

Quitting on that particular thyroid medicine relieved the urge to re-position my glasses with a day! OCD can often be brought about by any medicine that causes you to become hyper, especially if you are taking a dose beyond your body´s tolerance level.

A note though, I´d been taking the thyroid medicine since years but it´s from February to May 2016 that I developed an intolerance, because of an antibiotic by the name of Ciprofloxacin that has caused damages to my heart, my CNS and my digestive system. So in a nutshell, the OCD was actually brought upon by Ciprofloxacin, a medicine that has destroyed the lives of a huge number of people, physically, mentally and emotionally!
 
My advice to any OCD sufferer out there is to consider any medicine that they might be taking right now, or to keep a track of any medicine that they might´ve taken before these episodes began. Also to re-consider the amount of caffeine and sweetened drinks or sweets like pastries etc. that they eat, and to avoid artificial sweeteners that diabetes patients use - and are also used by others sometimes to limit their sugar intake - or even Stevia sweetener.

Some or all combined can cause your brains to become hyper and cause such issues.

Also, OCD can often be brought upon by a hidden fear or anxiety that you don´t even think about or pay attention to. For example, if you´re stressed about what your boss might´ve to say about yourself not coming to work recently, the inner fear can cause you to become anxious and result in your OCD being at its worst on certain days.
 
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I suffered from an OCD for around three months as a result of being intolerant towards my thyroid medicine (Levothyroxine and Liothyronine). I´d reset the position of my glasses on my nose all the time, especially whilst watching TV.

Let me assure you, that that was just the beginning of a horror!
With time, the intolerance of the aforementioned medicine led to extreme restless behaviour, tremors and insomnia. So as [MENTION=22846]Nostalgic[/MENTION] said, over time, if left untreated and if it has already become an issue, it can get really worse.

Quitting on that particular thyroid medicine relieved the urge to re-position my glasses with a day! OCD can often be brought about by any medicine that causes you to become hyper, especially if you are taking a dose beyond your body´s tolerance level.

A note though, I´d been taking the thyroid medicine since years but it´s from February to May 2016 that I developed an intolerance, because of an antibiotic by the name of Ciprofloxacin that has caused damages to my heart, my CNS and my digestive system. So in a nutshell, the OCD was actually brought upon by Ciprofloxacin, a medicine that has destroyed the lives of a huge number of people, physically, mentally and emotionally!

Ciplox even though a well tolerated drug should never be given without a thorough medical history , to pediatric cases and to those with flouroquinolone hypersensitivity.
 
I have heard its a problem which can be controlled but not cured. It has different forms. Some get obsessed towarda cleanliness, some get obsessed towards checking again and again that the doors are locked , gas and electric appliances are switched off etc etc.

I have a close family member who has OCD related to cleanliness and its a struggle for him. He doesnt touch anything outside his house unless it is absolutely necessary and it lands him in embarrasing situations when others ridicule him.

Once i had to travel with him. We stopped a taxi and as i entered it and sat on the back seat, this guy kept standing outside and staring at the seats. Eventually he asked me to get out and find another taxi because the seats didnt look clean enough. The seats were absolutely fine imo. The driver went nuts and kept asking for the reason we rejected him for. We literally rejected 4-5 taxis after that before finally getting in one and he looked extremely uncomfortable in the one we finally boarded. It was such an embarrasment for me personally but i didnt know what to do.

I really wish the best of luck to all such people and pray that it doesnt happen to anyone.

Must be embarrassing! Like I mentioned, gladly, I'm not a germophobe, so thankfully, I don't have to deal with that. I bet it must be harder for someone with germophobia because it would stop them for doing simple, essential daily tasks.

On the bright side, I always have my house looking like a show-home. :P
 
Ciplox even though a well tolerated drug should never be given without a thorough medical history , to pediatric cases and to those with flouroquinolone hypersensitivity.

Dear Kaayal, my beloved sister :), other Fluorquinolones that have been taken off the market (Temafloxacin, grepafloxacin, Trovafloxacin and Gatifloxacin) too were considered "Well tolerated" by doctors till an evening before they were finally banned due to severe side-effects that they caused (amongst them being sudden death due to "Heart stop"). I´m yet to come across a single doctor in life who has called any medicine that´s up for prescription anything other than "Generally safe and very well tolerated!" Fair enough, a part of their job is not to scare the hell out of their patients, although as a general rule, if you knock their door after experiencing a problem, they conclude "All medicines have side-effects", but add that "The one that you as patient are complaining about doesn´t cause any of the symptoms that have."

Also, I´m in contact with my health insurance and exploring the possibility of myself having taken Cipro before some years ago without much trouble, and there´re documented many cases of people who experienced a flood of issues not before the second or the third time they took.

I don´t think there´s any other medicine in the world that has received as much intensive coverage on the TV channels and newspapers as (Flour)Quinolones, even documentaries have been made on it. There´re support groups and communities all over the world of people effected by these medicines, in America, Germany, UK, Australia, New Zealand etc. and even India I think.

Often, in many cases patients themselves don´t realise that Cipro is a trigger due to the fact that its adverse effects often show up weeks and weeks after its course, and if a patient is able to connect the dots, then good luck with convincing your doctor that the medicine that you were prescribed in January began to cause a flood of issues from February onwards!

But but but! Hello, read this!

".... These reactions can occur within hours to weeks after starting CIPRO. Patients of any age or without pre-existing risk factors have experienced these adverse reactions.... "

Link:
https://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DrugSafety/ucm500143.htm

"... An FDA safety review found that both oral and injectable fluoroquinolones (also called "quinolones") are associated with disabling side effects involving tendons, muscles, joints, nerves and the central nervous system. These adverse effects can occur soon after administration to weeks after exposure, and may potentially be permanent. Patients should discuss the use of fluoroquinolones with their healthcare provider... "

Link:
https://www.drugs.com/article/antibiotics-for-uti.html

This is from FDA, not from a patient with "All in his head". And then it says.....

"The fluoroquinolones, such as ciprofloxacin (Cipro) and levofloxacin (Levaquin) have also been commonly used for uncomplicated cystitis; however, July 2016 FDA recommendations strongly suggest that the fluoroquinolone class be reserved for more serious infections, and only be used if other appropriate antibiotics are not an option."

Seven months after I took it, the FDA decided to pack it with a black box warning, and hence they advise for this generally well tolerated medicine to be reserved for cases where other antibiotics aren´t an option.

I fully realise how useful it can be, certainly when a patient is facing a life-threatening infection or no other antibiotics works, and I´d therefore never say that it should be banned (although, when I´m really unwell it slips out of my mouth in frustration!).

PakPassion was till today the only online platform that I hadn´t yet polluted with discussions on Ciprofloxacin. I´m tired of it, I don´t even say anymore that it was Cipro that has caused me so many issues, because a mere mention of it shoots up my BP! Any PP friends of mine wondering at my cold behaviour and the lack of replies to messages, I´d just tell them to read this post to understand what I´m going through since what feels like an eternity. I won´t even discuss my symptoms and issues, I´d just say that I´d give an arm to reverse that week when I took it.
 
Training and exercising too helps with anxiety and OCD, as does doing morning walks.

On the topic about hidden fears or tension worsening OCD, take the example of any person who bites his nails. He´ll it at a rapid rate when in tension, like Ganguly did when Balaji would bowl in a tense run-chase.

Often, if the OCD is too severe, the person in question will have other OCDs or jerk moments that he may not even notice. Again, remember Ganguly blinking his eyes like 30 times a minute in tense matches?
 
Lol Rawal bro, take a deep breath and calm down..:D

Ciplox-TZ is a common drug we use for gastroenteritis and Norflox in cases of UTI. I myself have taken these drugs whenever i was ill. But you are right it's better to use other antibiotics if possible.:)
 
Lol Rawal bro, take a deep breath and calm down..:D

Ciplox-TZ is a common drug we use for gastroenteritis and Norflox in cases of UTI. I myself have taken these drugs whenever i was ill. But you are right it's better to use other antibiotics if possible.:)

You're right, I need to calm down a bit on this. So, sorry for firing all cylinders here. :D

I'm fighting. I'm trying everyday for things to improve, and to distract myself by doing things I loved doing, but these tremors (and many other problems) are a constant reminder of where I stand now in life.

As a very important side-note, I must add that my post shouldn't be interpreted as a rant on doctors. I love, take interest and greatly admire the medical science. I'm equally thankful to a number of doctors who've been of great help to me throughout my life. Even the GP who prescribed me Cipro is otherwise a very nice lady, listens to me with much attention and has been treating me since years now. Maybe God will make my problems go away through her? She didn't wish ill for me after all.
 
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[MENTION=141922]ExpressPacer[/MENTION] Sometimes, anxiety and hence OCD can be brought upon by an underlying medical condition that hasn´t yet been addressed. Does your heart pound and flutter in the chest, or do you feel that it skips beats? If so, then seeing a cardiologist is a must. An over or even underactive thyroid can cause strange symptoms, which can be diagnosed through a blood test and be treated.

Very rarely, the deficiency of certain vitamins or minerals too can cause issues beyond you´d expect.
 
[MENTION=141922]ExpressPacer[/MENTION] Sometimes, anxiety and hence OCD can be brought upon by an underlying medical condition that hasn´t yet been addressed. Does your heart pound and flutter in the chest, or do you feel that it skips beats? If so, then seeing a cardiologist is a must. An over or even underactive thyroid can cause strange symptoms, which can be diagnosed through a blood test and be treated.

Very rarely, the deficiency of certain vitamins or minerals too can cause issues beyond you´d expect.

Thanks for talking about this bro. And yes, I haven't talked about it much, but I've had anxiety problems throughout my childhood, in my teens and now going into my youth. In fact, so much so, I actually had a lot of white hair by the time I was 17 (I don't know if that's related to anxiety tho). OCD has always been there but there was also always a sense of panic. You know, the feeling of terror. As if something was wrong. I had, and still to this day have many sleepless nights being worried about losing my parents, my family and my loved ones. So, I'm pretty sure anxiety's been there. As for the heart pounding; that happens quite a lot. Even when I'm going into a normal situation, something like meeting an old friend or if I see someone I know, my heart begins pounding and I get sweaty hands, but I'm assuming that's normal.

Also, my father had hyperthyroidism and I've never gotten a diagnosis so I'm not sure.
 
Don't know if it comes under OCD, but I am always fighting with my mind to stop me from saying something that can land me in trouble. Had this habit of saying profanities aloud when I was alone, and say Allah-hu-akbar when I was in a crowd. Now that I am married, I have this urge of saying me exes name in front of my wife. She asks me why are you sounding lost, but often I am fighting with myself not to say something like that. She has heard me say profanities when I am alone in the kitchen, and asked me what was that for? I always come up with some excuse, like it was a reaction to a bad memory. In office, I used to get drawn into debates and say the most mean things that would draw gasps from females for my backward and misogynist views, but I didn't mean them..it was just a need to be as mean as possible.
 
Don't know if it comes under OCD, but I am always fighting with my mind to stop me from saying something that can land me in trouble. Had this habit of saying profanities aloud when I was alone, and say Allah-hu-akbar when I was in a crowd. Now that I am married, I have this urge of saying me exes name in front of my wife. She asks me why are you sounding lost, but often I am fighting with myself not to say something like that. She has heard me say profanities when I am alone in the kitchen, and asked me what was that for? I always come up with some excuse, like it was a reaction to a bad memory. In office, I used to get drawn into debates and say the most mean things that would draw gasps from females for my backward and misogynist views, but I didn't mean them..it was just a need to be as mean as possible.

Must be a real pain, I bet. In this day and age, you better watch what you say. I bet anyone shouting Allah-hu-Akbar in a crowd even in a Muslim-majority country like Pakistan and Bangladesh would cause a lot of panic. But I understand where you're coming from, the constant urge from within to do something is really hard to deal with.

I suggest meditation.
 
Must be a real pain, I bet. In this day and age, you better watch what you say. I bet anyone shouting Allah-hu-Akbar in a crowd even in a Muslim-majority country like Pakistan and Bangladesh would cause a lot of panic. But I understand where you're coming from, the constant urge from within to do something is really hard to deal with.

I suggest meditation.

I have mentioned this issue 4 years back.http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?177090-Mental-illness&p=5748269#post5748269

anyway..another odd thing i have been experiencing is that i suddenly say Allah hu akbar for no reason..sometimes i say that randomly and look back if some american heard me or not..because i dont want them to think i am some radical..and i am not a muslim either. it is like no matter how hard i try to curb it..that phrase comes out. and no i dont think it is some divine call..just my mind playing games with me.

My wife asked me if I am a muslim when she heard me say it randomly a few times. I told her it is just a habit I developed after spending time on pakistani websites.
 
I have mentioned this issue 4 years back.http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?177090-Mental-illness&p=5748269#post5748269



My wife asked me if I am a muslim when she heard me say it randomly a few times. I told her it is just a habit I developed after spending time on pakistani websites.

I see. Allah-Hu-Akbar literally translates to God is the Greatest and it can apply to a person of any religious faith. Allah is Arabic for God and therefore you can worship anyone but in Arabic, you would refer to your God as Allah.

Anyway, going back to the topic, 4 years ago, the situation was still not as bad as it is now. Saying Allah Hu Akbar or I bet even a Muslim sounding name like "Abdullah" or "Abdul Rahman" could be very dangerous since South Asians are already under very close scrutiny.

Best of luck on solving this problem!
 
[MENTION=136588]CricketCartoons[/MENTION] just read your old thread. How is your situation now regarding that?

Thankfully, I don't have any such problems. I just struggle with the need for everything to look absolutely symmetrical, beautiful and something like from a designer, home magazine.
 
[MENTION=136588]CricketCartoons[/MENTION] just read your old thread. How is your situation now regarding that?

Thankfully, I don't have any such problems. I just struggle with the need for everything to look absolutely symmetrical, beautiful and something like from a designer, home magazine.

Situation is much better. My brain is not sharp anymore, but I am more at peace. Involved in multiple startups and working from home, staying with my wife, and earning well (though under lot of debt which will take a year to pay off). Worried about uttering something in front of my wife, which can ruin my marriage.
 
The literal translation of "anxiety" into Urdu would be "khouf", but I prefer "gabraahat" ("restlessness") due to the context in which the former is used in our culture. Tell some desi, especially an elder, that a person suffers from khouf and they´ll ask you whether he/she fears jinnaat and bhoot (ghosts and spirits), and it isn´t their fault. For a lot of people actually it needs to be stated what kind of khouf results in certain OCDs:

As a complete opposite to the OCD of tidying up and cleaning the room all the time, there´s one of leaving all things (especially clothes and letters received in post) open, on the carpet, and such individuals hate tidying up and cleaning. Their "hidden" fear often is that when they´ll need these things they won´t be able to find them, especially letters, or that it´ll take too much time. People with anxiety often lack patience, self-confidence and don´t trust themselves and their memory much, have focus and concentration issues.

Thanks for talking about this bro. And yes, I haven't talked about it much, but I've had anxiety problems throughout my childhood, in my teens and now going into my youth. In fact, so much so, I actually had a lot of white hair by the time I was 17 (I don't know if that's related to anxiety tho). OCD has always been there but there was also always a sense of panic. You know, the feeling of terror. As if something was wrong. I had, and still to this day have many sleepless nights being worried about losing my parents, my family and my loved ones. So, I'm pretty sure anxiety's been there. As for the heart pounding; that happens quite a lot. Even when I'm going into a normal situation, something like meeting an old friend or if I see someone I know, my heart begins pounding and I get sweaty hands, but I'm assuming that's normal.

Also, my father had hyperthyroidism and I've never gotten a diagnosis so I'm not sure.

And this post perfectly explains everything. Well done, it´s an incredibly brave thing to admit such a thing.

1. I was known within relatives for the amount of hair I had, as does my brother. Ever since my struggles post the medicine that I´ve mentioned in this thread already, I´ve had a tremendous hairloss. It could be down to the insomnia and the stress that I´m going through.

2. The element of shock and surprise can often result in heart palpitations, but anxiety-sufferers have it to the extreme without them even realising it; and that´s what anxiety does to you my friend. In the next paragraph, I´m going to say something that you´ll remember forever and will one day come back to quote it:

No anxiety-sufferer will ever realise what a horror anxiety is and what a world of peace it is outside that till you´ve lived a day or two completely without it. If anyone does that, he´ll never want to go back to the life of his untreated anxiety. It´s a world of its own, a lot of peace and a place where you feel that you always have more time to perform tasks than others think, or than you yourself used to think. Think of MS as an example. No wonder that he used to drink four litres milk a day! That amount of protein, and especially calcium, is bound to have an influence on your brain and nerves, hence your personality.

Don't know if it comes under OCD, but I am always fighting with my mind to stop me from saying something that can land me in trouble. Had this habit of saying profanities aloud when I was alone, and say Allah-hu-akbar when I was in a crowd. Now that I am married, I have this urge of saying me exes name in front of my wife. She asks me why are you sounding lost, but often I am fighting with myself not to say something like that. She has heard me say profanities when I am alone in the kitchen, and asked me what was that for? I always come up with some excuse, like it was a reaction to a bad memory. In office, I used to get drawn into debates and say the most mean things that would draw gasps from females for my backward and misogynist views, but I didn't mean them..it was just a need to be as mean as possible.

It may or may not be any relevant here, but the urge to voice one´s opinion on every matter, especially controversial, the inability to tolerate others´ likes and to utter profanities has been observed in some people as a compulsive behaviour, sometimes all or two of those in the same person. Some of these individuals draw satisfaction and pleasure from "owning" others in debates.

Situation is much better. My brain is not sharp anymore, but I am more at peace. Involved in multiple startups and working from home, staying with my wife, and earning well (though under lot of debt which will take a year to pay off). Worried about uttering something in front of my wife, which can ruin my marriage.

Don´t tell me here about the brain not being as sharp anymore! Again to mention the devil (Cipro), ever since my health troubles, my senses seem to have been numbed. The sense of humour, poetry, philosophies.... I miss my old self, but I challenge to be once again one day what I was!

Say my salaam to my bhaabhi :). Let her know of the blasts from the past. To this day, I talk to my girl about an alien who came to my life years ago but disappeared suddenly in late spring 2013, exactly the day she entered my life. However, his legacy lives on as I still hail him as my guru who gave my funny side a direction and the gut to tell jokes about myself in open, to make others (and myself) laugh. Before that, I would focus on making jokes about others and situations, and that too was good within relatives and friends, but the stuff that I learnt from him was/is too addictive. When he left, I took over and made sure at least others don´t miss him at the place where he was once most famous.

He disappeared though, but I happily accepted that within weeks. He was a troubled soul and needed to sort out things in his own life. Everyone has the right to dedicate a bit of his focus to his own troubles and problems. Just because we behave normal and are funny doesn´t mean we´re without issues. It may sound harsh and bad, but I don´t miss him anymore. I just cherish the times! But he´ll understand what I exactly mean by that.
 
It may or may not be any relevant here, but the urge to voice one´s opinion on every matter, especially controversial, the inability to tolerate others´ likes and to utter profanities has been observed in some people as a compulsive behaviour, sometimes all or two of those in the same person. Some of these individuals draw satisfaction and pleasure from "owning" others in debates.

Don´t tell me here about the brain not being as sharp anymore! Again to mention the devil (Cipro), ever since my health troubles, my senses seem to have been numbed. The sense of humour, poetry, philosophies.... I miss my old self, but I challenge to be once again one day what I was!

Have you stopped taking the medicine which affected your brain? After stopping mine, I have been pushing my mind to solve maths and puzzles, something I could do easily earlier.

Bhabhiji is aware of everything and that I was supposed to take her to Germany for vacation ( went to France instead).
 
Have you stopped taking the medicine which affected your brain? After stopping mine, I have been pushing my mind to solve maths and puzzles, something I could do easily earlier.

Bhabhiji is aware of everything and that I was supposed to take her to Germany for vacation ( went to France instead).

The kind of medicine that you´re referring to, although not contesting that they too have side-effects, but the biggest problem with them is the withdrawal syndrome that one goes through after discontinuing them, which explains the maths and puzzles trouble that you´re referring to.

Cipro though is an antibiotic used to treat infections. I took it for a week in January 2016 and life has never been the same anymore. Google "Floxie Hope" to understand, in a nutshell, its potentially permanent harms. I´ve, as a last hope, a blood test on Friday to determine lest that it might´ve effected my parathyroid function, which´s a whole lot different thing to the thyroid function.

Everyone kept enquiring over here too as to where that funny guy went. I said to them that maybe that funny guy wasn´t human like us and has ascended back to where he came from. Incredible memories! I´d give one arm to reverse the days when I took Ciprofloxacin, the other to relive those awesome days! Although, I realise the fact that those days weren´t after all the best phase of your life. Those funny stories were just your method to distract yourself.
 
[MENTION=136588]CricketCartoons[/MENTION] I can imagine yourself being very happy and delighted after seeing my signature for the first time. A lot of people motivated and supported me, but you were different. You "knew" that I´ll do it. You always knew ke mere dimaagh ka keeda bohatt ziddi hai.
 
The kind of medicine that you´re referring to, although not contesting that they too have side-effects, but the biggest problem with them is the withdrawal syndrome that one goes through after discontinuing them, which explains the maths and puzzles trouble that you´re referring to.

Cipro though is an antibiotic used to treat infections. I took it for a week in January 2016 and life has never been the same anymore. Google "Floxie Hope" to understand, in a nutshell, its potentially permanent harms. I´ve, as a last hope, a blood test on Friday to determine lest that it might´ve effected my parathyroid function, which´s a whole lot different thing to the thyroid function.

I had withdrawal symptoms too. Was afraid that I will have to take medicines forever for daily functioning, but took the risk and stopped taking the medicines. Had a period of self doubt if I was capable to even make a living and fulfil the expectations of those around me. Been forcing myself and doing mental workouts..like multiplying/dividing numbers in my head, and been a gradual improvement. Yes had followed you finally reaching Ms Perry. I was supposed to draw her...
 
I highly recommend any anxiety-sufferer or even outsiders to study the Fight-or-Flight response. It makes for a fascinating read and explains the technical details of anxiety and how it occurs.

I had withdrawal symptoms too. Was afraid that I will have to take medicines forever for daily functioning, but took the risk and stopped taking the medicines. Had a period of self doubt if I was capable to even make a living and fulfil the expectations of those around me. Been forcing myself and doing mental workouts..like multiplying/dividing numbers in my head, and been a gradual improvement. Yes had followed you finally reaching Ms Perry. I was supposed to draw her...

I fully understand the thought process behind people not wanting to be put on a medicine for long-term basis, and all medicines have side-effects, but if the withdrawal symptoms are so severe as to interfere so much with one´s daily life, then I´d personally advise to talk to a doctor to again to see whether you need to be put to something again. Perish the thought that you chose it for yourself. No, circumstances brought it upon yourself, like high or low BP or poor function of the lungs brings a package of medicines upon some people - and for a whole lifetime, and with severe side-effects too. My father for example has a dangerous biuld up of fluids in his feet and legs due to a BP medicine that he takes, but it can´t be helped as he can´t discontinue its therapy. So the edema is being treated separately. My mother takes steroids (yes, steroids) for a lungs-related condition and it has brought a flood of side-effects upon her that would require a whole new thread for them to be explained!

I did often think that you were never going to give up on stalking, but then thought maybe you´ve got busy with your own stuff now. However, now that you´ve let out a secret, then let me tell you that I too have my sources. I followed you till you were seen in West Bengal one day (or some other city it was perhaps. Basically, in India) and had got the confirmation of yourself having got married later on. So stalking was another legacy that you left upon me, and hence it was RAW versus ISI in full flow!

You better not draw Ellyse now, because 'someone' is going to give your supaari if you do that. And since you followed me till late 2013 or early 2014, then you´d be knowing full well I suppose as to who that someone is.
 
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