Do we have any promising young all-rounders?

[TabishNator]

It's clear likes of Shadab and Imad aren't going to cut it. Less said about Nawaz and Faheem the better. Jamal is okay but bowling is trash in T20s.

We need a proper all-rounder in the team. Any young guns out there with some promise?

 

[ElRaja]

we dont have any promising young batsmen, spinners or quicks, where will we find someone who can do both, lol.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

First we must define what a promising all rounder is.

This should be the criteria:

Fast bowling AR able to bowl 140k +
6ft +
Strong build or potential to build strength and size
30+ average with bat
30 and below average with the ball

 

[The Bald Eagle]

There are some in under 19s at the moment.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Hammad Azam was meant to be the one who started the trend again

 

[GLORY OF '92]

we dont have any promising young batsmen, spinners or quicks, where will we find someone who can do both, lol.

Love the optimism. Such a cheery lot us Pakistan fans lol.

 

[RidiculousMan]

No. The other day Hafeez on a TV show was mentioning an important thing.

That when a young Cricketer gives trials for U15, U16, U19 or even for club cricket. He is asked by the coaches who is he batter or a bowler? If he says all rounder. The coach discourages him and says to pick one. The player is basically encouraged to either bat or bowl. An all rounder doesn't get time, attention or resources to practice both facets of his game.

Now the story doesn't end here. Pick up the domestic stats of your all rounders. Even the likes of Faheem Ashraf. Even in domestic Cricket before they represented Pakistan. They never batted above position 7 or 8. You can never develop a pace bowling all rounder by just batting him at 7 or 8. It doesn't work like this.

I have been saying ever since Aamer Jamal was picked in the national side that if Pakistan is serious about his development as a genuine all rounder like Razzaq lets say. Then he should be batting higher up the order for starters. Not in Pakistan Cricket but in domestic, league and county Cricket.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

No. The other day Hafeez on a TV show was mentioning an important thing.

That when a young Cricketer gives trials for U15, U16, U19 or even for club cricket. He is asked by the coaches who is he batter or a bowler? If he says all rounder. The coach discourages him and says to pick one. The player is basically encouraged to either bat or bowl. An all rounder doesn't get time, attention or resources to practice both facets of his game.

Now the story doesn't end here. Pick up the domestic stats of your all rounders. Even the likes of Faheem Ashraf. Even in domestic Cricket before they represented Pakistan. They never batted above position 7 or 8. You can never develop a pace bowling all rounder by just batting him at 7 or 8. It doesn't work like this.

I have been saying ever since Aamer Jamal was picked in the national side that if Pakistan is serious about his development as a genuine all rounder like Razzaq lets say. Then he should be batting higher up the order for starters. Not in Pakistan Cricket but in domestic, league and county Cricket.

IMHO you don't become an AR by deciding to as a kid.

You master one first then if you are able to master the other.

The fake ARs are common in Pakistan, they can just about to spin the ball and hack their way into becoming internationals

Nawaz
Shadab
Hafeez (most of his career)
Imad

 

[RidiculousMan]

No. The other day Hafeez on a TV show was mentioning an important thing.

That when a young Cricketer gives trials for U15, U16, U19 or even for club cricket. He is asked by the coaches who is he batter or a bowler? If he says all rounder. The coach discourages him and says to pick one. The player is basically encouraged to either bat or bowl. An all rounder doesn't get time, attention or resources to practice both facets of his game.

Now the story doesn't end here. Pick up the domestic stats of your all rounders. Even the likes of Faheem Ashraf. Even in domestic Cricket before they represented Pakistan. They never batted above position 7 or 8. You can never develop a pace bowling all rounder by just batting him at 7 or 8. It doesn't work like this.

I have been saying ever since Aamer Jamal was picked in the national side that if Pakistan is serious about his development as a genuine all rounder like Razzaq lets say. Then he should be batting higher up the order for starters. Not in Pakistan Cricket but in domestic, league and county Cricket.

Adding to this. I used to idolize Razzaq when I played Cricket.

I wasn't fast in pace by any stretch but was decent with both ball and the bat. Particularly when it came to longer formats. But I was never given the opportunity to play both my roles in the matches. I mostly played as a bowler because net practice with the bat was not allowed to me. There were so many kids and I basically had to be content with my bowling.

 

[Barragan]

Jamal is very promising for the Test side, but like you said absolutely trash bowler in T20's.

Hopefully he can work on bowling skills in the T20 format.

Saim can be used as a batting A/R and his bowling is good enough. Just need him to click with the bat and watch him come good.

Not much else really.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

yes we have one... Lord Faheem Stokes Ashraf... another member of roti gang!