Do you feel that Bangladesh deserve to play the semi-finals?

[Executioner]

The title says it all.

The number of people who seriously believed that Bangladesh would have headed into the semi finals were few in number. Not even an optimistic fan felt so. We were expected to be destroyed but we fought. Even in the game against England we batted well to score 305.

However we had a bit of luck considering that the match against Australia was abandoned due to rain but Australia too had their fair share of luck.

What do you folks Feel?

Oh one more thing. Now do you folks Feel BD definitely deserve to be the CT ahead of west indies? Or do we reduce the quality of the tournament?

 

[ManFan]

Why not? They have improved leaps and bounds and played good cricket. However, they do not deserve to be in the Finals because they are not good enough yet outside their den. Anyways, Congrats!

 

[RehanG]

Rain saved them.

 

[ManFan]

Just like Rain saved Pakistan in 1992? Perhaps Divine Intervention...

 

[Rayyman]

They got lucky. Australia was destroying them. [MENTION=136079]ahmedwaqas92[/MENTION]

 

[nextover666666]

Not they don't but their In the semi finals and they did win their last game in an great fashion so some credit is deserved but rain saved them

 

[saeed5646]

Aus run out of luck.they were wining against you very easily and rain saves you

 

[amit]

Bangladesh fully deserve their semi final spot. They beat New Zealand and their loss to England was closer than what New Zealand & Australia managed

 

[moghul]

Absolutely, what a marvelous innings were played by Mohammdulla and Shakib, after they were 4-33, they deserve it thoroughly.

 

[Smbhayi]

Rain saved them? well rain saved Australia too. so well-done to BD. anyway they're gonna lost to SA in semi

 

[lolpakistan]

Bangladesh should not have been in the semi finals, as had it rained just a few minutes later in the match against Australia it should and would have been curtains for them. So yes, I do feel that their position in the semi final doesn't sit well with me, specially when I think about how Australia literally had the most terrible of luck.

That being said, I do feel that Bangladesh were absolutely amazing in their final match, and it made me feel much better about their inclusion in the semi finals, from a truly tough competition and interesting-match-to-watch point of view.

 

[Major]

Anyone who comes into this thread and says Rain saved them need to first get educated regarding the matches in Group A then talk.

Bangladesh was not saved by rain.

If there were no rain games, Australia vs Nz would had ended with NZ winning. thus no points for Australia
Australia vs Bangaldesh was abandon due to rain, even though Australia could had won. Thus, Australia got a single point.
If they had won, then one could argue how it was unfair that AUs got a single point earlier from that game against NZ which was washed off.

In the end. Both Bangladesh and Australia needed to win the last game to qualify. Bangaldesh did it, Australia couldn't

so well deserved.

 

[JaDed]

Aus run out of luck.they were wining against you very easily and rain saves you

Thanks to the poster [MENTION=144269]ToeCrusher2[/MENTION] ,on checking score Aus escaped against Kiwis too apparently,so among all this its apparently Kiwis who are most unlucky here.

Your hatred against Bangla is getting the better of u.

 

[Sane.Cricket.Fan]

Luck will always be there im any sport.. Pakistan was very Lucky to be in the 1992 Cricket WC finals weren't they?

But seeing the way Bangladesh had played. Yes they deserve what they are getting. I would rate the Bangladesh team to be better balanced than Both Pakistan and Sri Lanka currently

 

[Major]

Had the acutal result of NZ game came forward and Bg game, the point tally would had been Australia 2 points

 

[DrSchultz]

Would have gotten a real hiding from Australia if rain didn't cancel their match.

 

[Ami]

As a Pak fan..well.done guys and good luck.
Who cares about rain and all that lark.
If we dont win it ...hope you do.

 

[saeed5646]

Thanks to the poster [MENTION=144269]ToeCrusher2[/MENTION] ,on checking score Aus escaped against Kiwis too apparently,so among all this its apparently Kiwis who are most unlucky here.

Your hatred against Bangla is getting the better of u.

NO bro

We have seen the trend of the pitches in the CT .after first 15 overs the pitch become flat and team

can regroup from batting collapse SO their was every chance AUs would have win the that match like

Ban did against NZ and Srilanka did against you

 

[saeed5646]

Luck will always be there im any sport.. Pakistan was very Lucky to be in the 1992 Cricket WC finals weren't they?

But seeing the way Bangladesh had played. Yes they deserve what they are getting. I would rate the Bangladesh team to be better balanced than Both Pakistan and Sri Lanka currently

yeah but did Ban win the CT or you already declare them Champions ??

 

[Khwaja]

Frankly, YES if they are against Pakistan!!!

 

[syed abbas]

Bangladesh are an exciting team.They have performed well against the top-sides which include series win against India and South Africa.They recently beat New Zealand in difficult playing conditions.Deserve to play semi-final of CT.Congrats to Bangla fans.

 

[Pete Rose]

They deserve it as much as pakistan did when the rain saved them in World Cup 92

 

[Azlan Khan]

They put up 300+ in one game. They beat New Zealand against all odds, I think they do deserve a place.

 

[Ahson8]

Probably not, but teams have had their fair share of luck in tournaments in the past too so it doesn't really matter.

Enjoy the win

 

[Major]

yeah but did Ban win the CT or you already declare them Champions ??

no one is talking about being champion here.

posters are talking about whether reaching till the SEMIs is deserving for Bangladesh or not

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Yes they desrved it.Well played Bangladesh.

 

[Pollack]

Its not Bangladesh fault that rain screwed Australia. So yes they deserve.

 

[Executioner]

NO bro

We have seen the trend of the pitches in the CT .after first 15 overs the pitch become flat and team

can regroup from batting collapse SO their was every chance AUs would have win the that match like

Ban did against NZ and Srilanka did against you

We saw Australia regrouping today by losing 5 wickets in 6 overs.

 

[saeed5646]

We saw Australia regrouping today by losing 5 wickets in 6 overs.

SMith was notout then and also head(today you should have notice in top form)Maxwell ,Wade .hasting

remaining So yeah Nz could have flatten out like they did yesterday against ban

 

[sam_ahm]

Absolutely, well deserved.

 

[Sane.Cricket.Fan]

yeah but did Ban win the CT or you already declare them Champions ??

I said they deserve whatever they are currently getting. Did not think it was that difficult to comprehend

 

[AJM-Q]

Even if aus would have lost to new zealand and had no point from there they definitely were going to beat bangladesh. Leaving bangladesh with 2 points and australia with 2 points.

Actually according to you if new zealand were to beat australia they would also have 3 point.

So how is it deserved if all 3 teams would have had 2 points without rain???

 

[zyrus]

Why not? They've been there for ages, and they are improving now. They deserve to be there. Its about time that they progress in ICC events.

 

[sticky_wkt]

BD deserve to be in the Semifinal. They had their bit of luck, but they need to capitalize on it and go all the way like what SL did in 96 WC. All the best!!

 

[DRsohail]

yess definitely deserved it.....

 

[saeed5646]

I said they deserve whatever they are currently getting. Did not think it was that difficult to comprehend

yeah but 1992 we ride our luck and become champions unlike Ban who have two matches remaining if not

the one So not a fair comparison with 1992

 

[AJM-Q]

Anyone who comes into this thread and says Rain saved them need to first get educated regarding the matches in Group A then talk.

Bangladesh was not saved by rain.

If there were no rain games, Australia vs Nz would had ended with NZ winning. thus no points for Australia
Australia vs Bangaldesh was abandon due to rain, even though Australia could had won. Thus, Australia got a single point.
If they had won, then one could argue how it was unfair that AUs got a single point earlier from that game against NZ which was washed off.

In the end. Both Bangladesh and Australia needed to win the last game to qualify. Bangaldesh did it, Australia couldn't

so well deserved.

Rain did save them.

Educate yourself.

If according to you new zealand were to beat aus and aus to were to beat bangladesh.

Then aus new zealand and bangladesh would have 2 points each.

 

[JaDed]

NO bro

We have seen the trend of the pitches in the CT .after first 15 overs the pitch become flat and team

can regroup from batting collapse SO their was every chance AUs would have win the that match like

Ban did against NZ and Srilanka did against you

Seeing the way Aus batted today,would say the opposite!

 

[saeed5646]

Seeing the way Aus batted today,would say the opposite!

if smith was not their i would have agree and the way nz bowl yesterday after epic start

 

[Executioner]

With regards to BD and Australia. BD scored some 305 runs against England. Australia scored 277 and Bangladesh definitely performed well against NZ with the bat and ball. We got NZ at 266-8 at the end of 50. Australia had NZ at 291-9 after 46 overs.

True we did struggle in the match against Australia. But hey it was a straight out equation for every team. Win their next match and qualify. NZ and Australia failed. Bangladesh triumphed

 

[Ramez]

The most lucky team would be the one that wins ind vs SA game. A direct entry into the finals provided pak vs SL game doesn't get one sided.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Australia deserved to be in the semi-final. 2 of their 3 matches against the weaker teams were washed out and they only lost their toughest game.

They were going to defeat Bangladesh with at least 7 wickets. Game against NZ was 50/50.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

India is the biggest winner here, just like WC 2015.

 

[saeed5646]

With regards to BD and Australia. BD scored some 305 runs against England. Australia scored 277 and Bangladesh definitely performed well against NZ with the bat and ball. We got NZ at 266-8 at the end of 50. Australia had NZ at 291-9 after 46 overs.

True we did struggle in the match against Australia. But hey it was a straight out equation for every team. Win their next match and qualify. NZ and Australia failed. Bangladesh triumphed

why bother to create the thread then ??you are also not sure about it

Secondly The way Nz bowling was toothless after first 15 their was good chance for AUS

 

[Shaan]

Australia had their chance today they couldn't make it, so, whom to blam?e england that they didn't lose the game? left New Zealand which lost to BD yesterday. BD deserves it as like Aus or NZ deserves but they failed to grasp the opportunity. About luck, it is something every team has got in different occasion in their favor.

 

[BDwarriors]

Because of the performance against australia i dont think they deserve to be in semi final.

 

[Sane.Cricket.Fan]

yeah but 1992 we ride our luck and become champions unlike Ban who have two matches remaining if not

the one So not a fair comparison with 1992

Different Era, Different Ways to play the game, Different Players..

Why even Compare?

At face value I rate Bangladesh as a good team

 

[saeed5646]

Different Era, Different Ways to play the game, Different Players..

Why even Compare?

At face value I rate Bangladesh as a good team

i did not you compare it you give a wrong example

 

[Buffet]

Ideally, CT should have reserve day or simply don't play in venues where rain is impacting pretty much all matches. It's poor situation where one team is getting 1 match with result and that also was curtailed by rain.

BD or any team deserving is simply a by product of this entire situation.

 

[Sane.Cricket.Fan]

yeah but 1992 we ride our luck and become champions unlike Ban who have two matches remaining if not

the one So not a fair comparison with 1992

What was this about?

 

[Shutdown Corner]

They got lucky. Australia was destroying them. [MENTION=136079]ahmedwaqas92[/MENTION]

and NZ were destroying them before they got destroyed by BD...so AUS and NZ and BD would have all been on 2 points.

moreover all 3 teams net run rates would have been pretty close as well.

 

[Titan24]

Luck will always be there im any sport.. Pakistan was very Lucky to be in the 1992 Cricket WC finals weren't they?

But seeing the way Bangladesh had played. Yes they deserve what they are getting. I would rate the Bangladesh team to be better balanced than Both Pakistan and Sri Lanka currently

Lol! Let me clear the air here, 1992 world cup was played in the round robin format and there were 9 teams and every team was supposed to play every team. Pakistan beat the newszelanders who were unbeaten in the round robin stage as well as semi finals. Pakistan won total of 4 matches. Pakistan beaten Nz, Aus, Sri and Zimbabwe unlike Bangla here which has just won one match.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

We were pretty poor against Australia and also horrible against India in the warm up, Australia would have been a better semi finalist. Best of luck to Bangladesh nevertheless, already achieved enough, as I wasn't expecting them to win against the Kiwis.

Need as much practice as possible before the World Cup. Soumya has failed in three matches along with Sabbir, these two needs to click

 

[ethan hunt]

Anyone who comes into this thread and says Rain saved them need to first get educated regarding the matches in Group A then talk.

Bangladesh was not saved by rain.

If there were no rain games, Australia vs Nz would had ended with NZ winning. thus no points for Australia
Australia vs Bangaldesh was abandon due to rain, even though Australia could had won. Thus, Australia got a single point.
If they had won, then one could argue how it was unfair that AUs got a single point earlier from that game against NZ which was washed off.

In the end. Both Bangladesh and Australia needed to win the last game to qualify. Bangaldesh did it, Australia couldn't

so well deserved.

How do you know newzealand would have won against australia . Bangla won the other day from a worse position . Australia could have too .

 

[santos11]

How do you know newzealand would have won against australia . Bangla won the other day from a worse position . Australia could have too .

Agree with this, NZ were favorites but Australia had a chance too.

However, Australia Bangladesh match was totally in Australia's favor and there could have been no other winner than Australia.

 

[The_Odd_One]

How do you know newzealand would have won against australia . Bangla won the other day from a worse position . Australia could have too .

Most teams have won batting 2nd after losing early wickets. Bangladesh did it yesterday and England today. Australia-NZ game was 50-50 when it was abandoned.

 

[MMHS]

Great arguments - after that "WI deserving CT more than BD" thread, this was required.

 

[ethan hunt]

Frankly no .Australia were pretty unlucky. I think Bangladesh's performance in the semifinal will define their tournament .Its great for the sport though. Bangladesh has a passionate fan base and good enough resources . Its time to start performing like Srilanka of the 90s even if they dont quite have the skill level to repay the unwavering support of the fans. Good luck to them.

 

[Madplayer]

These rain excuses could have been made for NZ as well if they had beaten BD yesterday. Final story is BD have earned their way by beating a formidable side like NZ in a knockout game. No one can take it away from them. Full credit to the team.

 

[proud_pakistani]

Well they started off slow but they have pulled it together. Champions Trophy u need to have 3-4 consecutive good games and you can win the tournament. From now on for each team it's like a knockout game. And Bangladesh won where it mattered so yes they deserve a place.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

They got lucky. Australia was destroying them. [MENTION=136079]ahmedwaqas92[/MENTION]

Had Australia lost to NZ. They would be heading home today even if they had won. It would be NZ and not Bangladesh in that case.

 

[bujhee kom]

People are being ridiculous and jealous.

Rain is part of the game. Aus have no lower order anyway so they were not assured of a win against our quality attack. They were as lucky with rain as we were as they were tiring and we were just getting to them.

We will win this CT, I am sure.

Joy Bangla!

 

[Pakpak]

The title says it all.

The number of people who seriously believed that Bangladesh would have headed into the semi finals were few in number. Not even an optimistic fan felt so. We were expected to be destroyed but we fought. Even in the game against England we batted well to score 305.

However we had a bit of luck considering that the match against Australia was abandoned due to rain but Australia too had their fair share of luck.

What do you folks Feel?

Oh one more thing. Now do you folks Feel BD definitely deserve to be the CT ahead of west indies? Or do we reduce the quality of the tournament?

No denying BD are lucky, but destinies are made from luck. Pakistan won the WC due a game being rained out at the start, SL won because no team played in SL (though they had a side with ATGs). Australia are unlucky but after today only themselves to blame.

 

[Major]

How do you know newzealand would have won against australia . Bangla won the other day from a worse position . Australia could have too .

235 needed in 33 overs, plus three down.

Just because Bangladesh did it the other day doent mean every team could do it.

Smith was the only batsmen australia had out there.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

How do you know newzealand would have won against australia . Bangla won the other day from a worse position . Australia could have too .

then Bangla could have equally won vs Australia had it not rained and we're right back to where we are now.

in fact BD already did it on the trickiest pitch of the tournament vs NZ. Aussies got a flat track vs England and were even in a dominant position but they threw it away. thats not rains fault nor is it Banglas fault either.

in fact Bangla are disadvantaged more than other sides because we dont get to play in England. same thing happened in 2015 WC. the odds are actually stacked against us.

 

[backfootpunch]

Just like Rain saved Pakistan in 1992? Perhaps Divine Intervention...

They needed that luck without Waqar and Saeed Anwar. This is a full strength Bangladesh that relies on rain against Aussies to make it to the semis.

This makes the CT awful because Australia were one of the contenders. Reminds of 2007 WC when Pak and India got knocked out at the expense of Ireland and Bangladesh - made that tournament a disaster.

 

[Hasan123]

They were extremely lucky imo

 

[Naim]

Why not they are in the semi final so they deserve this.

 

[Syed1]

They got there by some degree of luck but you cannot hold that against them. Unfortunately whoever plays them in the semis will have an easy route to the final.

 

[Syed1]

Why not they are in the semi final so they deserve this.

They only won one match in the entire tournament so far.

 

[Slog]

They got there by some degree of luck but you hold that against them. Unfortunately whoever plays them in the semis will have an easy route to the final.

Thats what NZ thought.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

They deserve it as much as pakistan did when the rain saved them in World Cup 92

To set the record straight: Rain did not save Pakistan in 1992. Pakistan were destroyed by rain in their game against South Africa. Here is what cricinfo wrote:

When Pakistan was 74/2 after 21.3 overs, rain halted the play for an hour and the target was revised to 194 in 36 overs. (a Duckworth/Lewis calculation under the rules in 2006 would have set a target of 162)


Imagine going from 211 to chase in 50 overs to 194 to chase in 36. Asking rate went from 4.7 an over to 8.5 an over.

The England game merely evened the injustice.

Agree with the broader point though. Bangladesh richly deserve to be in the semi finals. They belong.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Here is the link to the game: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/65139.html

 

[Last Monetarist]

You can't take it away from them, deserved a bit of luck against the Australians with the abandonment. Overall all credit to their team.

 

[BDfanforever]

Aus would have made better semi finalist no doubt, and are a much better team than BD. But they were playing very poorly in the group stage. You can't just expect to go to semi final just by beating BD.

BD went to seminal by virtue of the following events: competitive total against Eng, beating NZ, and lucky rain against Aus.

As someone said BD was at a huge disadvantage because of the conditions and how tough the group was.

 

[Macho Mann]

i dont think so, the abandoned game vs australia was clearly going in aussie favour bangladesh surely had luck

 

[Slog]

Its not Bangladesh's fault Australia match got rained out. And they were very comeptitive in the other two.

I have to admit Bangladesh proved me wrong big time (regardless of them going into semis) I was expecting them to get hammered and had been under the impression that they would be duds outside Asia and fail to adapt their game.

But they did as well as they could have. Even if Australia had won today and Bangladehs got knocked out the Bangla cricketers would have gone home with their heads held high

Mind you they dont get many opportunities to play abroad either. Not sure when was the last time they played a series in England.

 

[Haroon786]

To set the record straight: Rain did not save Pakistan in 1992. Pakistan were destroyed by rain in their game against South Africa. Here is what cricinfo wrote:

When Pakistan was 74/2 after 21.3 overs, rain halted the play for an hour and the target was revised to 194 in 36 overs. (a Duckworth/Lewis calculation under the rules in 2006 would have set a target of 162)


Imagine going from 211 to chase in 50 overs to 194 to chase in 36. Asking rate went from 4.7 an over to 8.5 an over.

The England game merely evened the injustice.

Agree with the broader point though. Bangladesh richly deserve to be in the semi finals. They belong.

Thank you for this.

The next time, any hurt 'poster's brings up 1992, we will have this reality to counter the myth that has been peddled so often on this board.

 

[Slog]

i dont think so, the abandoned game vs australia was clearly going in aussie favour bangladesh surely had luck

yes but i dont think it matters and is certainly not a case of Bangladesh 'stealing' the Aussie's spot

Aussie team had a mediocre tournament and were under the cosh even against NZ

 

[Ocelot]

Bangladeshi fans are really vicious and giving Indians a taste of their own medicine.

For the past 4 days, it has been a nightmare for Indians on social media, with Bangladeshi fans raining abuses bashing and trolling the crap out of them. Not a good sight for Indians I must say. Pakistanis have become too soft..