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Does Israel intend to capture Gaza?

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Looking at the ground situation, all the major western powers are supporting Israel.
IDF does not seem to be backing down and there is no international pressure.

What is Israels plan, looks like they are going all in and want to capture Gaza as well.

Thoughts ?
 
Israel has a growing population and a very limited land area. They need more land to somehow survive.

It’s only inevitable they need West Bank or Gaza in future
 
Why does Egypt blockade Gaza?

Reading online, they have been doing so since 2007.
 
Israel already controls Gaza and West Bank for all intents and purposes. They control all the checkposts and pathways in and out of those territories.

What they are trying to do at present is genocide and ethnic cleansing. But because this isn't Rwanda, the Western world is content with paying lip-service and calling it a "very complicated conflict".
 
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/israel-palestine-they-will-pay-dearly-says-israeli-pm-benjamin-netanyahu-on-hamas-attacks-and-retaliation-2441895?pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Friday that Israel had no plans on relenting in its attacks against Hamas in Gaza, after heavy bombardment targeting the Islamists in the Palestinian enclave.

"They attacked our capital, they fired rockets at our cities. They're paying and will continue to pay dearly for that," he said following security consultations at the military's headquarters in Tel Aviv.

"It's not over yet."
 
gaza is tiny, why would they want that?

They believe God has given them all the holy land.

Israel cannot capture Gaza, it has already tried and failed. Zionist entity has been encolsing off this land, trying to strangle the people for years now along with air raids on a regular basis.

Any land invasion will cause lots of deaths in Gaza but will also see many Zionist soldiers perish. Their Iron Dome anti-rocket system is unable to stop all the rockets.
 
Why does Egypt blockade Gaza?

Reading online, they have been doing so since 2007.

Theyre sell outs, Sisi n his stooges are rolling in billions from the usa to keep the gazans oppressed and under siege
 
They believe God has given them all the holy land.

Israel cannot capture Gaza, it has already tried and failed. Zionist entity has been encolsing off this land, trying to strangle the people for years now along with air raids on a regular basis.

Any land invasion will cause lots of deaths in Gaza but will also see many Zionist soldiers perish. Their Iron Dome anti-rocket system is unable to stop all the rockets.

Not sure about that assessment. Palestinian rockets seem to be mostly ineffective, really just a waste of ordinance. Israelis always come out well on top in a war of missiles. They usually get their fingers burned most when they put boots on the ground, so if this turns into a land invasion then you might see some negative feedback from Israeli citizens.
 
Not sure about that assessment. Palestinian rockets seem to be mostly ineffective, really just a waste of ordinance. Israelis always come out well on top in a war of missiles. They usually get their fingers burned most when they put boots on the ground, so if this turns into a land invasion then you might see some negative feedback from Israeli citizens.

They are weak home made rockets but the fear is the key. Israelis are used to living free lives, a few months stuck in bomb shelters is too much for them to take. Rockets are not the same as the missiles used by Hezbollah, Israel lost that war very badly. Gaza is ready for the Zionists to invade by land, they will lose a lot of troops in any full scale invasion. Again Israelis cant handle a high death toll of their brethren in helmets. Lebanon war again is a great example, after 100 IDF were killed, the calls for ending the war came loud & clear, resulting in Israel running back to their pure holy land.
 
Bibi is in political trouble and wants to look hard. Hence the provocation, and subsequent rocket attacks.
 
No..they will go back once things are about to get too serious for Uncle Sam. Just about cause enough damage before western backlash can be a possibility. Israelis are sly bast###ds in this regard
 
Israel haven't put boots on the ground, they are firing from their side of the frontier. Whether they actually invade remains to be seen.

Israel are content to let the status quo continue. Recapturing and governing the Gaza Strip would be too much headache hence why in 2005 under Sharon they "withdrew" from the Gaza Strip. Politicians like Netanyahu are so extreme he even opposed that measure.
 
Why does Egypt blockade Gaza?

Reading online, they have been doing so since 2007.

If Egypt allowed Hamas to bring in weapons from Egypt then they would become part of the war zone and Egypt does not want its citizens to be caught up in a religious war.
 
If Egypt allowed Hamas to bring in weapons from Egypt then they would become part of the war zone and Egypt does not want its citizens to be caught up in a religious war.

This is not a religious war, it's a war between a a settler colonial state and occupied people, y'all Evangelical radicals need to stop seeing middle eastern people as pawns in your apocalyptic game
 
Israel haven't put boots on the ground, they are firing from their side of the frontier. Whether they actually invade remains to be seen.

Israel are content to let the status quo continue. Recapturing and governing the Gaza Strip would be too much headache hence why in 2005 under Sharon they "withdrew" from the Gaza Strip. Politicians like Netanyahu are so extreme he even opposed that measure.

Good to hear Layla Moran, the first ever British Palestinian MP, speak up in Parliament the other day.
 
If Egypt allowed Hamas to bring in weapons from Egypt then they would become part of the war zone and Egypt does not want its citizens to be caught up in a religious war.

Lol religious war? This is a politicsl struggle for a homeland for the palestinians not a religious war

Anyway egypt and its rulers dont care about its citizens Thousands of them have died, have been missing or been threatened and harrassed since the military coup that occured on behalf of the western powers

Theres still violence in the sinai that they cant quell

Egyot is being paid off to look the other way
 
Gaza awaits aid from Egypt as Israel readies troops for ground assault

KHAN YOUNIS, Gaza Strip — Israel pounded the Gaza Strip with airstrikes Thursday, including in the south where Palestinians were told to take refuge, as the Israeli defense minister ordered ground troops to prepare to see Gaza “from the inside”, though he didn’t indicate when the ground assault would begin.

Gaza’s overwhelmed hospitals tried to stretch out ebbing medical supplies and fuel for generators, as authorities worked out logistics for a desperately needed aid delivery from Egypt. Doctors in darkened wards across Gaza performed surgeries by the light of mobile phones and used vinegar to treat infected wounds.

Amid the violence, President Joe Biden pledged unwavering support for Israel’s security, “today and always,” while adding that the world “can’t ignore the humanity of innocent Palestinians” in the besieged Gaza Strip.

In an address Thursday night from the Oval office, hours after returning to Washington from an urgent visit to Israel, Biden drew a distinction between ordinary Palestinians and Hamas, the militant group that controls Gaza. He linked the current war in Gaza to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, saying Hamas and Russian President Vladimir Putin “both want to completely annihilate a neighboring democracy.” Biden said he was sending an “urgent budget request” to Congress on Friday, to cover emergency military aid to both Israel and Ukraine.

Meanwhile, an unclassified U.S. intelligence assessment delivered to Congress estimated casualties in an explosion at a Gaza City hospital this week on the “low end” of 100 to 300 deaths. The death toll “still reflects a staggering loss of life,” U.S. intelligence officials said in the report, seen by The Associated Press. It said intelligence officials were still assessing the evidence and their casualty estimate may evolve.

Biden and other U.S. officials already have said that U.S. intelligence officials believe the explosion at al-Ahli Hospital was not caused by an Israeli airstrike. Thursday’s findings echoed that. The Israeli military has relentlessly attacked Gaza in retaliation for the devastating Oct. 7 Hamas rampage in southern Israel. Even after Israel told Palestinians to evacuate the north of Gaza and flee south, strikes extended across the territory, heightening fears among the territory’s 2.3 million people that nowhere was safe.

Palestinian militants fired rockets into Israel from Gaza and Lebanon, and tensions flared in the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

In a fiery speech to Israeli infantry soldiers on the Gaza border, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant urged the forces to “get organized, be ready” to move in. Israel has massed tens of thousands of troops along the border.

“Whoever sees Gaza from afar now, will see it from the inside,” he said. “It might take a week, a month, two months until we destroy them,” he added, referring to Hamas. Israel’s consent for Egypt to let in food, water, and medicine provided the first possible opening in its seal of the territory. Many Gaza residents are down to one meal a day and drinking dirty water.

Egypt and Israel were still negotiating the entry of fuel for hospitals. Israeli military spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said Hamas has stolen fuel from U.N. facilities and Israel wants assurances that won’t happen. The first trucks of aid were expected to go in Friday.

With the Egypt-Gaza border crossing in Rafah closed, the already dire conditions at Gaza’s second-largest hospital deteriorated further, said Dr. Mohammed Qandeel of Nasser Hospital in the southern town of Khan Younis. Power was shut off in most of the hospital and medical staff were using mobile phones for light.

At least 80 wounded civilians and 12 dead flooded into the hospital after witnesses said a strike hit a residential building in Khan Younis. Doctors had no choice but to leave two to die because there were no ventilators, Qandeel said. “We can’t save more lives if this keeps happening,” he said.

The Gaza Health Ministry pleaded with gas stations to give fuel to hospitals and a U.N. agency donated some of its last fuel.

The agency’s donation to Gaza City’s Shifa Hospital, the territory’s largest, would “keep us going for another few hours,” hospital director Mohammed Abu Selmia said.

Al-Ahli Hospital was still recovering from Tuesday’s explosion, which remains a point of dispute between Hamas and Israel. Hamas quickly said an Israeli airstrike hit the hospital, which Israel denied. The AP has not independently verified any of the claims or evidence released by the parties. The blast left body parts strewn on the hospital grounds, where crowds of Palestinians had clustered in hopes of escaping Israeli airstrikes. The U.S. assessment noted “only light structural damage,” with no impact crater visible.

Near al-Ahli, another explosion struck a Greek Orthodox church housing displaced Palestinians late Thursday, resulting in deaths and dozens of wounded. Abu Selmia, the Shifa Hospital director general, said dozens were hurt at the Church of Saint Porphyrios but could not give a precise death toll because bodies were buried under rubble.

Palestinian authorities blamed the blast on an Israeli airstrike, a claim that could not be independently verified. The Greek Orthodox Patriarchy of Jerusalem condemned the attack and said it would “not abandon its religious and humanitarian duty” to provide assistance.

The Gaza Health Ministry said 3,785 people have been killed in Gaza since the war began, the majority women, children, and older adults. Nearly 12,500 were injured, and another 1,300 people were believed buried under rubble, authorities said. More than 1,400 people in Israel have been killed, mostly civilians slain during Hamas’ deadly incursion. Roughly 200 others were abducted. The Israeli military said Thursday it had notified the families of 203 captives.

More than 1 million Palestinians, about half of Gaza’s population, have fled their homes in the north since Israel told them to evacuate, crowding into U.N.-run schools-turned-shelters or the homes of relatives.

For the first time since Israel captured Gaza from Egypt in 1967, a major tent camp arose to house displaced people. Dozens of U.N.-provided tents lined a dirt lot in Khan Younis.

The deal to get aid into Gaza through Rafah, the territory’s only connection to Egypt, remained fragile. Israel said the supplies could only go to civilians and that it would “thwart” any diversions by Hamas. Biden said the deliveries “will end” if Hamas takes any aid.

More than 200 trucks and some 3,000 tons of aid were positioned at or near Rafah, according to Khalid Zayed, the head of the Red Crescent for North Sinai.

Under an arrangement reached between the United Nations, Israel, and Egypt, U.N. observers will inspect the trucks before entering Gaza. The U.N., working with the Egyptian and Palestinian Red Crescent, will ensure aid goes only to civilians, an Egyptian official and European diplomat told the AP. A U.N. flag will be raised on both sides of the crossing as a sign of protection against airstrikes, said the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to brief media.

It was not immediately clear how much cargo the crossing could handle. Waleed Abu Omar, spokesperson for the Palestinian side, said work has not started to repair the road damaged by Israeli airstrikes.

Egyptian Foreign Minister Sameh Shoukry told Al-Arabiya TV that foreigners and dual nationals would be allowed to leave Gaza once the crossing was opened. Israel said it agreed to allow aid from Egypt because of a request by Biden — which followed days of intense talks with the U.S. secretary of state to overcome staunch Israeli refusal.

Israel had previously said it would let nothing into Gaza until Hamas freed the hostages taken from Israel. Relatives of some of the captives were furious over the aid announcement.

“The Israeli government pampers the murderers and kidnappers,” the Hostage and Missing Families Forum said.

The Israeli military said Thursday it killed a top Palestinian militant in Rafah and hit hundreds of targets across Gaza, including militant tunnel shafts, intelligence infrastructure, and command centers. Palestinians have launched barrages of rockets at Israel since the fighting began.

Violence was also escalating in the West Bank, where Israel carried out a rare airstrike Thursday, targeting militants in the Nur Shams refugee camp.

Six Palestinians were killed, the Palestinian Health Ministry said, and the Israeli military said the strike killed militants and resulted in 10 Israeli officers being wounded. More than 74 Palestinians have been killed in the West Bank since the war started.
 
Looking at the ground situation, all the major western powers are supporting Israel.
IDF does not seem to be backing down and there is no international pressure.

What is Israels plan, looks like they are going all in and want to capture Gaza as well.

Thoughts ?
Total occupation of gaza.. they are waiting for Egypt to open up refugee flow through rafah crossing.
 
No doubt about it, the intention is of mass ethnic cleansing followed by total occupation of Gaza. These are traits of a criminal and facist state. But there will come a time where even the rocks will speak when the zionests will face their ultimatum.
 
Israel gave Gaza and Westbank to Palestinians to govern themselves. If Israel wanted to capture Gaza, they would have never given it to Palestinians in the first place.

Ideally, Gaza should join with Egypt and become part of their country. Such a tiny stretch of land with zero industries cannot survive. Even now, the primary source of income for Gaza people is charity or working in Israel. Gaza has no economy of their own.
 
No doubt about it, the intention is of mass ethnic cleansing followed by total occupation of Gaza. These are traits of a criminal and facist state. But there will come a time where even the rocks will speak when the zionests will face their ultimatum.
Are you talking about the judgement day Hadith?
 
That's what it seems like.

I think they want to steal both Gaza and West Bank slowly. They want to steal entire Palestine.

But, they will be defeated one day (in sha Allah).
 
That's what it seems like.

I think they want to steal both Gaza and West Bank slowly. They want to steal entire Palestine.

But, they will be defeated one day (in sha Allah).
Absolutely. The zionests fate was written. Firaun (phairo) , the most evil of the evelist of humans was made a great example of from the Almighty God, the zionests will face the consequences
 
That's what it seems like.

I think they want to steal both Gaza and West Bank slowly. They want to steal entire Palestine.

But, they will be defeated one day (in sha Allah).
One day the earth will be eaten by the expanding sun.
 
One day the earth will be eaten by the expanding sun.
Still 2 billion years away from it before Sun goes Supernova. Humans will be long gone by then. Either extinct or moved to different parts of Galaxy and beyond.
 
Absolutely. The zionests fate was written. Firaun (phairo) , the most evil of the evelist of humans was made a great example of from the Almighty God, the zionests will face the consequences
That God was YHWH and he punished the Pharoah to rescue Jews from slavery.
 
Still 2 billion years away from it before Sun goes Supernova. Humans will be long gone by then. Either extinct or moved to different parts of Galaxy and beyond.
Sun will not go supernova, a fact
Sadly none of the holy books if any religion could predict it 😕
 
Sun will not go supernova, a fact
Sadly none of the holy books if any religion could predict it 😕
We are all waiting for Kalki, Imam Mahdi, Jesus or whoever to come and put an end to human misery. People have been waiting for centuries only to be fooled into this kind of thinking.
 
Yes they want , and this is not last , they will attack other neighbors in near future and get more land and Establish Greater Israel. They will have down fall after that , when they will pay heavily for all atrocities they have committed.
 
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