Does Pakistan deserve to be in the semi-finals of the World Cup?

[Saj]

What are your thoughts?

One game to go against England, Pakistan has already lost 4 matches, including a hammering by Afghanistan, a hammering from India, a thrashing by Australia and a match against South Africa that they should have won?

Do you think they are amongst the best 4 sides in this tournament?

Are they deserving of a place in the semi-finals?

 

[Bhaijaan]

After their record run chase vs Sri Lanka, after chasing down 400 vs Kiwis, after almost chasing down 370 vs Aussies - Yes absolutely !!!

 

[Civil]

No Sir all our wins will be against woeful sides. Aus and Ind I expected to lose, but Afg and South Africa which were all in that one week will haunt me.

 

[mominsaigol]

What are your thoughts?

One game to go against England, Pakistan has already lost 4 matches, including a hammering by Afghanistan, a hammering from India, a thrashing by Australia and a match against South Africa that they should have won?

Do you think they are amongst the best 4 sides in this tournament?

Are they deserving of a place in the semi-finals?

We already aren't in semi's, but no we didn't deserve to go through.

The fact that many on social media asked and prayed for rain showed how spineless some fans are

Afghanistan was more deserving then us to qualify. But the top 4 teams 100% deserve to be their.

They've been playing the best cricket overall

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Well honestly speaking they dont!

They haven't shown any clear intention of being competitive in this mega event.

We didnt win any major game in this tournament yet other than new zealands game, so its better to stay out and watch better teams playing in KOs.

 

[zulfiqar]

Pretty simple really - we'll know after our last game. If we occupy one of the 4 top spots then yes - otherwise no =)

 

[Cover Drive Six]

One of New Zealand and Pakistan deserves the 4th spot.

 

[Rana]

No.

Besides the poor cricket, the sheer injustice done in the last 4 years is a bigger reason.

There is Qudrat ka Nizaam

And there is God’s attribute of being “Al-Hakam” (The Impartial Judge)

The truth shall always prevail

 

[WengerOut]

NZ only beat a woeful Eng side if we consider big teams. Pak only beat NZ. Afg beat Pak and Eng. If anything, the Afghans deserve to be in SF.

 

[Savak]

Nope. When you lose badly to India, Australia and Afghanistan and choke against the tailenders of South Africa, you do not deserve to go through

 

[MenInG]

Think if we had reached the semis we would say we deserved it just like anyone else.

 

[Rana]

Nope. When you lose badly to India, Australia and Afghanistan and choke against the tailenders of South Africa, you do not deserve to go through

South Africa are tailenders?

The score close to 400 and above every time they bat first

 

[Hawkeye]

Glad we didn’t make it.

Else Babar, Imam, Shadab, Nawaz, Shaheen and Rauf would have gone home without any worry and would have been blowing trumpet they made the semifinal - a huge achievement!

Which it’s not. For any good side making semifinal should be a given.

Now there’s hope Imam, Shadab, Nawaz and Rauf will be dropped for at least a few years. Best would be permanent.

And Babar has to give up captaincy.

 

[ahmadharis1]

No. Very poor performances throughout and got very lucky at times. Terrible team selection and management in the past few years, as if "strategy" is a forbidden word at the PCB.

New Zealand and even Afghanistan were more deserving

 

[sweep_shot]

Pakistan are good enough to finish 4th but looks like they are finishing 5th here.

Do they deserve to be in semi? Yes; absolutely. But, they are falling short this time just like how it was in 2019.

 

[saqib.rai]

If New Zealand "deserve" to qualify after 4 losses, then we deserve to as well

Any team that ends up in the top 4 in a long tournament regardless of how they got there- deserve qualification

 

[JaDed]

Insane how they learnt nothing from previous tournament.

 

[Farabi]

Seems like an irrelevant question because Pakistan is not winning by 254 runs. Pak is not finishing 4th. Let’s accept it and move on.

 

[AAli98]

Of course they do look how much they done for Indian economy now theyr bakery’s & biryani restaurants going to go bust !

 

[zaidihusain]

What are your thoughts?

One game to go against England, Pakistan has already lost 4 matches, including a hammering by Afghanistan, a hammering from India, a thrashing by Australia and a match against South Africa that they should have won?

Do you think they are amongst the best 4 sides in this tournament?

Are they deserving of a place in the semi-finals?

Well they don't deserve to be in semis as the plan was to rely on Qudrat Ka Nizam by playing mediocre cricket. Now we can see there are 3 teams competing for 4th spot with equal no.of losses i.e. 4 matches but they are separated by run rate. So, it all depends on how comprehensively you have won your matches or how closely you have lost your matches. Overall I can say Pakistan had a terrible game against India only but they could have chased against Australia if some batsman have applied themselves better and stayed on the wicket. Games against Afghanistan & SA were also very much winnable if the team had scored 320-325 runs. Pakistan's bowling was horrific throughout the tournament but at the same time many other teams have struggled in bowling. Mainly it is because of failure & inconsistency of top 6 batsmen Pakistan has failed to qualify

 

[jnaveen1980]

Not that bowling unit. Traditionally Pakistan wins tournaments due to their bowling. Pace & Spin both were inferior.

Bowling couldn't defend 280 odd at Chennai - Red Flag
Bowling couldn't restrict SL below 250 - Red Flag
Bowling couldn't finish off choking SA tail - Red Flag


Batting was average too. But they could have gotten away with that if only bowling had shown semblance of potency. New zealand bowling was not exactly stelllar against top sides. But against weaker sides they were mighty good.

Pakistan and New zealand against lower ranked sides, Afghanistan, Netherlands, Bangladesh, Srilanka. Look at the difference. NZ smokes Pakistan in every metric against minnows. Wickets, avgerage, economy, strike rate

 

[DeadlyVenom]

No such things as deserve.

Only those who make it deserve it.

 

[shokz1408]

I wanted it so much to happen. But deserve, no. Toothless bowling in the tournament. Not taking care of the NRR with the bat. Losing to Afghanistan comfortably, and collapsing like the worlds end v India.

 

[Rana]

Any team with Rizwan as it’s number 4 doesn’t deserve World Cup glory.

You’ve lost the plot as a cricketing nation if this is your number 4.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Where NZ beat Pakistan in this world cup

Pakistan/NZ vs Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Netherlands, Srilanka

This is where NZ beat Pakistan. Pakistan was unable to dispose of lower ranked sides. They even lost one. NZ thrashed them comfortably. Look at Pakistan's bowling avge/ER against these sides.

Keep in mind. NZ deliberately went with 3 main bowlers others were part timers. In some cases they lost pace bowler middle of the match. NZ has outperformed pakistan in both pace and spin against lower ranked sides. This tilted the scale massively.

Team​	Wickets​	Avge​	ER​	SR​
New zealand​	38​	20.39​	4.35​	28.0​
Pakistan​	30​	34.36​	5.56​	37.0​

Pakistan/NZ spin attack against the lower ranked sides (4 of them)

Team​	Wickets​	Avge​	ER​	SR​
New Zealand​	16​	20.56​	4.36​	28.2​
Pakistan​	7​	67.42​	5.90​	68.5​

Pakistan/NZ pace attack against lower ranked sides (4 of them)

Team​	Wickets​	Avge​	ER​	SR​
New Zealand​	22​	20.27​	4.35​	27.4​
Pakistan​	23​	24.30​	5.31​	27.9​

 

[lucky_fish]

No.

If you ignore everything else the fact that we learned nothing about NRR from the 2019 WC and could potentially end up in the same position is enough (I.e. equal in points with the 4th place team but with a lower NRR). That's criminal.

Even if we were late to cotton onto it then once the tournament started and SA, India, NZ basically spelt out the importance of NRR..we still didn't clock on. Why didn't we make more of an effort to bat out a full 50 overs in games? OK.. we lost to Afghanistan but in fairness we weren't the only ones they outplayed alot of teams. But why didn't we go harder against Bangladesh?

What on earth are the coaches doing? Babar isn't the most aware but he's our skipper. It is what it is. So who has been coaching him specifically in game awareness...field placements etc. He is an awesome batsman but as a captain who has been developing him?

It seems no one.

I wish we could have made it because I love watching our team play. But let's just hope we can learn from it.

 

[Technics 1210]

No Sir all our wins will be against woeful sides. Aus and Ind I expected to lose, but Afg and South Africa which were all in that one week will haunt me.

Please have a look at who NZ beat. NZ lost to Australia, India, South Africa, AND, lost to Pakistan.

But wait, NZ are worthy of a SF spot.

Yeah right.

 

[mominsaigol]

Please have a look at who NZ beat. NZ lost to Australia, India, South Africa, AND, lost to Pakistan.

But wait, NZ are worthy of a SF spot.

Are they in the semi finals yes or no?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Bottom line. When you beat a minnow. Beat the crap out of them.

 

[rhony]

What are your thoughts?

One game to go against England, Pakistan has already lost 4 matches, including a hammering by Afghanistan, a hammering from India, a thrashing by Australia and a match against South Africa that they should have won?

Do you think they are amongst the best 4 sides in this tournament?

Are they deserving of a place in the semi-finals?

Pak deserves it more than NZ for sure. If only they showed the intensity they did against SA in earlier games especially against Afg. Two Asian teams in Asian world cup would have been apt and deserved too. Instead we saw SL and BD performing their worst and Pak bungling up at key moments. Ind and Afg can hold their heads high in the league stages

 

[mominsaigol]

Pak deserves it more than NZ for sure. If only they showed the intensity they did against SA in earlier games especially against Afg. Two Asian teams in Asian world cup would have been apt and deserved too. Instead we saw SL and BD performing their worst and Pak bungling up at key moments. Ind and Afg can hold their heads high in the league stages

They don't deserve it more then NZ.

NZ lost to the 3 steongest teams and the 400 game was washed out + they had injured players. Who knows what would have happened if we had a full game and not a reduced over game.

Pakistan lost to 3 Strongest teams + Afghanistan.

Nz deserve it more.

 

[Mockingbird]

Afg downed Eng, Pak and had Australia on the mats for most of their match. If anybody team deserved to go through, its them. Neither NZ nor Pak deserves to go through - especially not NZ after beating only the minnows.

 

[Civil]

Please have a look at who NZ beat. NZ lost to Australia, India, South Africa, AND, lost to Pakistan.

But wait, NZ are worthy of a SF spot.

Yeah right.

Fair Enough If we get 2 points on England (even if not qualifying), and Afg get hammered by SAF. I will re-consider with your point as valid. If we lose to this hapless England team then NZ moves ahead for me.

 

[kach]

Pakistan doesn't deserve to be in the quarter-final.
Pakistan is like that office bloke who got the job on a "strong" reference from his chacha and underperformed initially but then learns slowly on the job and figures out a way in the end just to get fired.

Always underprepared and undercooked mentally and physically both individually and as a team in major tournaments and relying on Qudrat Ka Nizam at the end.

I guess they were just happy mimicking what they achieved in the 2019WC.
Go ahead - defeat a worn-out English team and then start lamenting the past.

 

[Sherazkhalid]

If New Zealand "deserve" to qualify after 4 losses, then we deserve to as well

Any team that ends up in the top 4 in a long tournament regardless of how they got there- deserve qualification

We still have a game to go, we could very well be with 5 losses.

 

[Rana]

We still have a game to go, we could very well be with 5 losses.

Yeah I get the sense fans are forgetting that the last match is against England (who are man to man better than us) and not against Nepal

 

[Firebat]

South Africa are tailenders?

The score close to 400 and above every time they bat first

The tailenders of South Africa = South Africa's tailenders.

 

[Rana]

The tailenders of South Africa = South Africa's tailenders.

This one is lost on me just like Pakistan’s nrr equation

 

[Firebat]

Whoever finishes in the top 4 deserves to be in the semi finals. Whoever doesn't, doesn't.

 

[gibsyhesperis]

If you get to the semifinal you deserve to be there, by definition.
Otherwise, you would have to say that Pakistan did not deserve to progress in the 1992 World Cup (they were truly humiliated in some early games) and only progressed by dint of rain impacting certain games.

 

[Firebat]

This one is lost on me just like Pakistan’s nrr equation

Haha, you're misunderstanding his words. He said we choked against South Africa's tailenders, not that South Africa are tailenders.

 

[soso_killer]

No!

 

[gani999]

After their record run chase vs Sri Lanka, after chasing down 400 vs Kiwis, after almost chasing down 370 vs Aussies - Yes absolutely !!!

They did not chase 400 against the Kiwis. Duckworth-Lewis manipulations in rain washed games don't count.

 

[Technics 1210]

To answer the OP, Pakistan deserve to be in the Semi Finals and the finals.

Every team has an EQUAL chance, but no, the same haters will claim Pakistan deserves humiliation, deserves to be knocked out, deserves to be made an example of.

Save the analysis too - as if it will make any difference.

It is the same mantra and pattern after every ICC tournament, and if you are a true Pakistan fan, you would have realised a long time ago that Pakistan doesn't do anything conventionally - this is precisely why when you expect Pakistan to win, they will lose, and vica versa vica.

 

[BDfanforever]

No doubt, 2023 Pak team was significantly stronger than 2019 version. However, pitches in 2023 were super flat for the most of the time therefore negating Pak bowling attack. I thought they were unlucky against RSA but I guess things equalize as they got lucky escape against NZ.

Overall, SENA teams dont even have to perform at top gear since most of the "Asian Bloc" teams beside India are mediocre/poor. For example, in 2007, SRL smashed NZ side in the Semi easily, but look at now.

 

[Rana]

Haha, you're misunderstanding his words. He said we choked against South Africa's tailenders, not that South Africa are tailenders.

Oh right. But SA gave us a fair chance to beat them whilst chasing. Why did we concede 200 in 30 overs against them?

SA will beat us by 150 runs or more if they bat first against us. Are we truly on their level?

 

[Technics 1210]

They did not chase 400 against the Kiwis. Duckworth-Lewis manipulations in rain washed games don't count.

Excellent so we can rule out India's CT wins as they were rain affected too, and DLS came to India's rescue.

Case closed.

 

[deltexas]

For sure NZ deserved more than Pak to be in the sf. Yes both have 4 losses and Pak maybe 5 but they played better than Pak. And their game with Pak could have gone their way as well if it was for 50 overs who knows. Also NZ lost by just 4 runs chasing 380+ against Aus. If they would have won that game - they would have qualified earlier. But nz has a heck of a sf with Ind who are in top form now and if they neat Ind in this sf , it will be a way bigger upset than the 2019 sf

 

[soso_killer]

What are your thoughts?

One game to go against England, Pakistan has already lost 4 matches, including a hammering by Afghanistan, a hammering from India, a thrashing by Australia and a match against South Africa that they should have won?

Do you think they are amongst the best 4 sides in this tournament?

Are they deserving of a place in the semi-finals?

They shouldn't have won against South Africa. In reality that game was a non contest for long stretches until our players got bored and nearly bottled it. The better side won

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

No such things as deserve.

Only those who make it deserve it.

Exactly. It's frankly quite astonishing that Pakistan were anywhere near qualification after some of their disastrous bowling performances in this tournament. If you set 270 against Afganistan and fail to defend it then can hardly complain if you don't make the SF's.

 

[Rana]

Exactly. It's frankly quite astonishing that Pakistan were anywhere near qualification after some of their disastrous bowling performances in this tournament. If you set 270 against Afganistan and fail to defend it then can hardly complain if you don't make the SF's.

Why are you only making 250-280 every time against Afghanistan though?

Australia might make that once. The next time they will pile on 380+ against them. Same and India, England and South Africa

 

[rhony]

They don't deserve it more then NZ.

NZ lost to the 3 steongest teams and the 400 game was washed out + they had injured players. Who knows what would have happened if we had a full game and not a reduced over game.

Pakistan lost to 3 Strongest teams + Afghanistan.

Nz deserve it more.

Pak made a match out of Aus game and were in the hunt. Should have won against SA. The only bad game where they capitulated was against Ind. Of course they still have to win against Eng

 

[ArabKnight]

No.

Besides the poor cricket, the sheer injustice done in the last 4 years is a bigger reason.

There is Qudrat ka Nizaam

And there is God’s attribute of being “Al-Hakam” (The Impartial Judge)

The truth shall always prevail

God does not give izaat to a corrupt nepotistic inhumane team filled with nefarious actors. Thus is why Pakistan is eliminated from the cup. If Pakistan had gone thru to the SF, then the same corrupt regime would’ve been praised & deemed acceptable by the people. Fortunately, that did not happen. The team deserves this disgrace.

God gave izaat to a honest trustworthy unselfish batter named Fakhar Zaman in the last 2 matches with beautiful victories.

 

[Stewie]

Well
If they win by 287 runs against England, I would say they earned a spot. Lol

 

[deltexas]

Guys over here bash Pak batting and Babar & co for their batting - but the thing is the Pak bowling cost them this WC. The batting has been decent I would say. No batting line up incl Ind or Aus can keep chasing 350 totals no matter who flat the pitch is or if there is dew . That is a fact. Pak bowlers conceded runs like free Christmas candy. I will say the only game Pak batting really failed is with Ind. Pak bowlers were horrible this WC period.

 

[rhony]

Excellent so we can rule out India's CT wins as they were rain affected too, and DLS came to India's rescue.

Case closed.

Both teams had the same number of overs in that CT final. I'm not discounting Pak's win against NZ but these are different scenarios

 

[W63L35]

From the results standpoint, NZ and PAK will be at par if we beat England.
So in that case, yes... Pak deserved to be in Semi-Final as much as NZ did but... per rules of the tournament (NRR), of course NZ will and should advance.

 

[RidiculousMan]

What are your thoughts?

One game to go against England, Pakistan has already lost 4 matches, including a hammering by Afghanistan, a hammering from India, a thrashing by Australia and a match against South Africa that they should have won?

Do you think they are amongst the best 4 sides in this tournament?

Are they deserving of a place in the semi-finals?

What's the point of this question really?

All the deserving teams are in top 4 right now. We have an open league format table in World Cups now. If Pakistan deserve it they should be in that top 4 position. The games are fair and square. As simple as that.

 

[Technics 1210]

Whether you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning. In this case 2 points.

Who the heck cares how NZ hammer minnows compared to Pakistan? It's all about the 2 points per match!

Remember, NZ have been in EVERY ODI WC Semi-Final since 2007, lost in the final of 2015 and 2019, it is NZ that do not deserve to be in the SF!

 

[Ab Fan]

Probably No.

1. They lost to Afghanistan
2. They lost to South Africa inspite of asking them to chase.

The win vs NZ was thanks to D/L calculation and things could have gone either way in a full fledged game. Pakistan also lost to India and Australia far poorly than New Zealand who competed well against them.

The team that started off well deserves the spot more than the team who wake up late in the tournament.

 

[shah9425]

Not at all

Failed to beat Afghanistan and South Africa

 

[Third Man]

Guys over here bash Pak batting and Babar & co for their batting - but the thing is the Pak bowling cost them this WC. The batting has been decent I would say. No batting line up incl Ind or Aus can keep chasing 350 totals no matter who flat the pitch is or if there is dew . That is a fact. Pak bowlers conceded runs like free Christmas candy. I will say the only game Pak batting really failed is with Ind. Pak bowlers were horrible this WC period.

Completely agree. Bowling really did us in. If anything, the batting has been much better than the batting efforts we showed in the last two ODI world cups. The bowlers weren't even as good as the NED bowlers, and that's not a hyperbole. The Dutch at least did the basics well and tried to hit a consistent line and length. Our Lumber 1 bowling attack wasn't even able to bowl two consecutive deliveries at the same spot. This is before you even consider our spinners who were not fit for a good club side and that's not a hyperbole either.

 

[mominsaigol]

Pak made a match out of Aus game and were in the hunt. Should have won against SA. The only bad game where they capitulated was against Ind. Of course they still have to win against Eng

They didn't make a match of aus. They were exposed badly and collapsed in the same fashion against India. Their innings was a virtual repeat.

Why should they have won against sa? Its umpire call, we didn't complain on quinton's umpire call either? It's the umpire decision, it was a proper decision.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

It is what it is . Ultimately Pakistan needs root and branch reform. They've had since '99 to sort it!

 

[Bewal Express]

You deserve it if you go through and don't if you don't go through. It's Sport, not synchronised swimming

 

[Buffet]

Bowling has been really poor by Pakistan in this WC. Babar and Co. playing for ranking and average was not really going to compensate for this poor bowling. Anyway, Pakistan is virtually out but not out yet.

6.25 ER and Avg of 39 - Really poor performance by bowlers. Competing against SL for bowling here.


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Bowling Units - By ER

 

[Bewal Express]

Bowling has been really poor by Pakistan in this WC. Babar and Co. playing for ranking and average was not really going to compensate for this poor bowling. Anyway, Pakistan is virtually out but not out yet.

6.25 ER and Avg of 39 - Really poor performance by bowlers. Competing against SL for bowling here.


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SSA has been poor and brainless.
Hasan is a poor bowler and has been poor
Rauf has been awful, truly awful
Shadab is a awful bowler, has been truly awful
Nawaz is a terrible bowler who has been truly awful

Usama is an awful bowler, who has been awful

Did I miss anyone.

 

[sweep_shot]

Bowling has been really poor by Pakistan in this WC. Babar and Co. playing for ranking and average was not really going to compensate for this poor bowling. Anyway, Pakistan is virtually out but not out yet.

6.25 ER and Avg of 39 - Really poor performance by bowlers. Competing against SL for bowling here.


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In bowling department, Netherlands did better than Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Sri Lanka. Damn!

Pakistan's main weakness was their spin attack. It was pretty benign.

 

[Sunzi]

No. We didn't play well enough. The stats that @Buffet posted are a damning indictment of our inability to restrict teams and thus, our bowling was writing cheques our batting couldn't cash.

And that cost us.

Overrated bunch of losers.

 

[Buffet]

SSA has been poor and brainless.
Hasan is a poor bowler and has been poor
Rauf has been awful, truly awful
Shadab is a awful bowler, has been truly awful
Nawaz is a terrible bowler who has been truly awful

Usama is an awful bowler, who has been awful

Did I miss anyone.

Not sure if anyone else bowled, but I found Pakistani bowling simply poor in this WC. Pacers were not great and spinners were totally missing. I don't think there was any proper spinner even, it was all part timers. Not sure why Pakistan did not have 2-3 proper spinners for WC in India. All teams have at least 1.

 

[Bewal Express]

Not sure if anyone else bowled, but I found Pakistani bowling simply poor in this WC. Pacers were not great and spinners were totally missing. I don't think there was any proper spinner even, it was all part timers. Not sure why not have 2-3 proper spinners for WC in India. All teams have that.

We don't have proper spinners. Abrar may have got a look in but we said that about Usama and he was also awful. Our domestic cricket produces civil servants, not entrepreneurs.

 

[RyanRyan10]

If they can beat England by 287 runs then yes.

Pakistan should not give up like they did in 2019. Two teams have already won by 300+ runs in this tournament.

 

[Sunzi]

If they can beat England by 287 runs then yes.

Pakistan should not give up like they did in 2019. Two teams have already won by 300+ runs in this tournament.

Not with the 2nd worst attack in the tournament, my friend.

 

[batandballbattle]

To be honest, Afghanistan deserves it more.
Had it not been for a herculean effort, they would have gone into the South Africa game brimming with confidence, which would have risen exponentially if they are to bat first.

 

[Buffet]

We don't have proper spinners. Abrar may have got a look in but we said that about Usama and he was also awful. Our domestic cricket produces civil servants, not entrepreneurs.

Does Usama play first class? He seems to have very little control and gave 2-3 hit me ball every over despite bowling well in same over. I think he needs more time in first class.

 

[Sunzi]

To be honest, Afghanistan deserves it more.
Had it not been for a herculean effort, they would have gone into the South Africa game brimming with confidence, which would have risen exponentially if they are to bat first.

110%

 

[jnaveen1980]

To be honest, Afghanistan deserves it more.
Had it not been for a herculean effort, they would have gone into the South Africa game brimming with confidence, which would have risen exponentially if they are to bat first.

Certainly. Just for the two clinical chaes alone they deserved it. One man Mujeeb ruined it for them.

 

[RyanRyan10]

Not with the 2nd worst attack in the tournament, my friend.

England batting has been poor. They habe been destroyed all teams except Bangladesh and the Netherlands.

 

[Sunzi]

England batting has been poor. They habe been destroyed all teams except Bangladesh and the Netherlands.

It has, but not poor enough to lose to the second worst attack in the tournament by 300 runs.

Pak would need to score 400 to start with. On a sporting wicket, England haven't bowled too badly... let alone poor enough to concede 400.

All of this is fairytale stuff.

 

[deltexas]

England batting has been poor. They habe been destroyed all teams except Bangladesh and the Netherlands.

Yes but eng will be back with a bang in the 24 t20 WC. They will rectify the things that went wrong and be back. More so it's t20 a for.at they are really strong in..