rpant_gabba
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FTR, I'm an athiest.
Has people experienced material change in their life that can strictly attribute to prayer?
the only controlled study in this regard is the STEP study .
Seeking to assess the effect of third-party prayer on patient outcomes, investigators found no evidence for divine intervention. They did, however, detect a possible proof for the power of negative thinking.
The three-year Study of the Therapeutic Effects of Intercessory Prayer (STEP), published in the April 4 American Heart Journal, was the largest-ever attempt to apply scientific methods to measure the influence of prayer on the well-being of another. It examined 1,800 patients undergoing heart-bypass surgery. On the eve of the operations, church groups began two weeks of praying for one set of patients. Each recipient had a praying contingent of about 70, none of whom knew the patient personally. The study found no differences in survival or complication rates compared with those who did not receive prayers. The only statistically significant blip appeared in a subgroup of patients who were prayed for and knew it. They experienced a higher rate of postsurgical heart arrhythmias (59 versus 52 percent of unaware subjects).
The research team--a psychologist, clergy and doctors from six institutions, including Harvard Medical School and the Mayo Clinic--speculated that nerves might have been to blame. "We know that high levels of adrenaline from the anxiety response can make fibrillation worse," said Charles Bethea, a physician at Integris Baptist Heart Hospital, a study site in Oklahoma City, in an April press conference. "The patient might think, 'Am I so sick that they have to call in the prayer team?'" Dean Marek, chief chaplain at the Mayo Clinic, saw the problem as a possible flaw in the study design: "The sense of community was not there. You could call it impersonal prayer rather than intercessory prayer."
Stopping short of suggesting that the healing power of prayers by friends and family might reside in the personal connections rather than in the prayers, the authors stated that they have no plans for a follow-up study. This one, sponsored largely by the John Templeton Foundation, cost $2.4 million.
would love to hear your members thoughts on this.
Has people experienced material change in their life that can strictly attribute to prayer?
the only controlled study in this regard is the STEP study .
Seeking to assess the effect of third-party prayer on patient outcomes, investigators found no evidence for divine intervention. They did, however, detect a possible proof for the power of negative thinking.
The three-year Study of the Therapeutic Effects of Intercessory Prayer (STEP), published in the April 4 American Heart Journal, was the largest-ever attempt to apply scientific methods to measure the influence of prayer on the well-being of another. It examined 1,800 patients undergoing heart-bypass surgery. On the eve of the operations, church groups began two weeks of praying for one set of patients. Each recipient had a praying contingent of about 70, none of whom knew the patient personally. The study found no differences in survival or complication rates compared with those who did not receive prayers. The only statistically significant blip appeared in a subgroup of patients who were prayed for and knew it. They experienced a higher rate of postsurgical heart arrhythmias (59 versus 52 percent of unaware subjects).
The research team--a psychologist, clergy and doctors from six institutions, including Harvard Medical School and the Mayo Clinic--speculated that nerves might have been to blame. "We know that high levels of adrenaline from the anxiety response can make fibrillation worse," said Charles Bethea, a physician at Integris Baptist Heart Hospital, a study site in Oklahoma City, in an April press conference. "The patient might think, 'Am I so sick that they have to call in the prayer team?'" Dean Marek, chief chaplain at the Mayo Clinic, saw the problem as a possible flaw in the study design: "The sense of community was not there. You could call it impersonal prayer rather than intercessory prayer."
Stopping short of suggesting that the healing power of prayers by friends and family might reside in the personal connections rather than in the prayers, the authors stated that they have no plans for a follow-up study. This one, sponsored largely by the John Templeton Foundation, cost $2.4 million.
would love to hear your members thoughts on this.
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