Does Yasir Shah lack cricketing intelligence?

[Slog]

I’ve always felt when things don’t go his way he literally has no major alternative plan and keeps doing the same things again and again. Ashwin on the other hand learns a lot from his bad experiences

 

[Mamoon]

He was never as smart as Ashwin but he is Einstein compared to his bowling partners in the team.

 

[m.shah]

Tell me one player in this team who has cricket intelligence. They are all duds.

 

[shah_1]

We are a minnow test team, so what do you expect?

 

[Shaddy86]

The guys picking him for this pitch bowling first are the ones that lack real intelligence.

 

[Energy]

Sure doesn't lack sheesha flavour intelligence. Usually found hanging around in there at least when he is on UAE tours.

 

[angrypathan]

Every member of the team lacks cricketing intelligence

 

[Savak]

Yasir is no sacrifical limb. This is now 6th Sena tour, he has 200 plus test wickets, by now he has enough body of work to know how to bowl in all conditions and how to keep things tight in the first innings of a test match

When you have an inexperienced bowling line up, he cannot be performing like a clueless debutant in the first innings of a test match

 

[wakkkLDN]

I've never been a big fan of Yasir Shah, I think he is a decent bowler, gets wickets due to natural variations. So yes he does lack cricketing intellect if due to his inability to create wickets, or even read game situation.

I have watched a couple of leggies in domestic cricket that I tend to think highly of:

1. Abrar Ahmad
2. Zahid Mehmood

Both from Sind, look good. Abrar is young and gets dip and drift, although doesn't spin the leg break much.

Zahid, gives it more air and certainly get turn. He is about 32 i think but spinners do tend to mature later.

 

[shah_1]

He averages 100+ in SA/Aus/NZ

Misbah is braindead for picking him. Zafar Gohar can at least bat

 

[Titan24]

Management’s cricketing intelligence is nothing to write home about as well when they select a leggie in SENA who is playing his 15th test SENA averaging 89 in Aus, 123 in SA and 38.9 in Eng. Nothing extraordinary shown in this test as well. I created a thread an year or so ago that no other team plays a specialist leggi in SENA because you have to try attack with pacers while finger spinners try to control the run rate and chip in with a few wickets on a good day. Unless you have Warne in your lineup, there is no point in playing a specialist leggy in SENA and Yasir’s stats endorse that.

When it comes to Yasir’s cricketing intelligence, he is more or less just like any other player in the except one or two maybe.

 

[Rana]

This phase overall must be pinnacle of cricketing Jahiliyat in PCBs history.

Our ‘talented’ cricketers from impoverished backgrounds are simply lacking many factors that have been letting them down at international level!

 

[Saj]

Questionable selection for this match and only time will tell if it was the right one.

Not too impressive so far.

 

[Bewal Express]

Questionable selection for this match and only time will tell if it was the right one.

Not too impressive so far.

Had he not been picked and if PK were out in the field for a long period, then we would have everyone asking why he wasn't picked.

 

[sindhiboy]

Management’s cricketing intelligence is nothing to write home about as well when they select a leggie in SENA who is playing his 15th test SENA averaging 89 in Aus, 123 in SA and 38.9 in Eng. Nothing extraordinary shown in this test as well. I created a thread an year or so ago that no other team plays a specialist leggi in SENA because you have to try attack with pacers while finger spinners try to control the run rate and chip in with a few wickets on a good day. Unless you have Warne in your lineup, there is no point in playing a specialist leggy in SENA and Yasir’s stats endorse that.

When it comes to Yasir’s cricketing intelligence, he is more or less just like any other player in the except one or two maybe.

im surprised he only averages 89 in aus. He leaked 200 runs every innings minimum without a wicket

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Management’s cricketing intelligence is nothing to write home about as well when they select a leggie in SENA who is playing his 15th test SENA averaging 89 in Aus, 123 in SA and 38.9 in Eng. Nothing extraordinary shown in this test as well. I created a thread an year or so ago that no other team plays a specialist leggi in SENA because you have to try attack with pacers while finger spinners try to control the run rate and chip in with a few wickets on a good day. Unless you have Warne in your lineup, there is no point in playing a specialist leggy in SENA and Yasir’s stats endorse that.

When it comes to Yasir’s cricketing intelligence, he is more or less just like any other player in the except one or two maybe.

Good post. I'd exclude Englamd from that list as he has directly impacted the Lords trst and performed well at the Oval. He was decent this year in England too considering the lack of penetration/control shown by the seamers. Its really the southern hemisphere that he struggles in. Not his fault though. He is a spinner who always looks to attack and in these places you need a finger spinner who provides control so that you can rotate your quicks around . If Waqar and Misbah , with all their experience, don't know that, I'd question their intelligence first especially considering Yasirs past record in these countries.

 

[King_Kohli]

That's not his fault, remember that he is playing on green mats.
You guys are expecting too much.

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

Yes Yasir Shah is expected to pick truckload of wickets on a green pitch when captain elected to bowl. What are Abbas and Naseem supposed to do then? Cheerlead Yasir after every wicket?

 

[shamaan]

The guys picking him for this pitch bowling first are the ones that lack real intelligence.

Exactly if your going to pick yasir and if you win tbe toss you must bowl second were he may win the game in the 4th or 5th day

 

[shamaan]

Yasir is no sacrifical limb. This is now 6th Sena tour, he has 200 plus test wickets, by now he has enough body of work to know how to bowl in all conditions and how to keep things tight in the first innings of a test match

When you have an inexperienced bowling line up, he cannot be performing like a clueless debutant in the first innings of a test match

i dont blame him i blame the clueless management why pick a spinner then bat first.no need to play a spinner and bowl first

 

[shamaan]

Management’s cricketing intelligence is nothing to write home about as well when they select a leggie in SENA who is playing his 15th test SENA averaging 89 in Aus, 123 in SA and 38.9 in Eng. Nothing extraordinary shown in this test as well. I created a thread an year or so ago that no other team plays a specialist leggi in SENA because you have to try attack with pacers while finger spinners try to control the run rate and chip in with a few wickets on a good day. Unless you have Warne in your lineup, there is no point in playing a specialist leggy in SENA and Yasir’s stats endorse that.

When it comes to Yasir’s cricketing intelligence, he is more or less just like any other player in the except one or two maybe.

the clueless management have no idea about conditions and stats in different conditions

 

[shamaan]

Had he not been picked and if PK were out in the field for a long period, then we would have everyone asking why he wasn't picked.

Haris and fawad could havr bowled that many overs and proberly would have a better run rate or u should have game with gohar for control and better batter

 

[shamaan]

That's not his fault, remember that he is playing on green mats.
You guys are expecting too much.

agreed its the management fault they are clueless

 

[shamaan]

Yes Yasir Shah is expected to pick truckload of wickets on a green pitch when captain elected to bowl. What are Abbas and Naseem supposed to do then? Cheerlead Yasir after every wicket?

a spinners job is to control and end did he do that no do i blame him no do i blame the management YES

 

[shamaan]

Yes Yasir Shah is expected to pick truckload of wickets on a green pitch when captain elected to bowl. What are Abbas and Naseem supposed to do then? Cheerlead Yasir after every wicket?

a spinners job is to control and end did he do that no do i blame him no do i blame the management YES

 

[sweep_shot]

Not sure about lack of intelligence but he has struggled in overseas Tests for quite a while now. It is time for a new spinner perhaps.

 

[Suleiman]

Not sure about lack of intelligence but he has struggled in overseas Tests for quite a while now. It is time for a new spinner perhaps.

I’m honestly surprised he’s still playing. Especially overseas where’s he’s been p average or below average.

 

[ShoaibM]

Looked almost completely hapless and toothless. Unfortunately we are stuck with him. The real champs like Saqi and Murali would not be hanging back waiting for others to get the job done even on unhelpful tracks. Disappointing yes but the reverse sweep by Misbah to select Faheem simply because he took Williamson's wicket in a meaningless T20 is the much bigger blundell. Come on Misbah!

 

[ask_analyse_act]

He averages 100+ in SA/Aus/NZ

Misbah is braindead for picking him. Zafar Gohar can at least bat

Yasir shah has a test hundred in Aus. Ya ppl say it’s fluke, but whatever 100 is a 100.

He is the experience spinner that u need to go with if need to pick 1, which is a wise decision because he would give the pacers some enough rest.

Why Haris Sohail so underused, last time in England Shadab Khan was underused. I remember this trend going through when Misbah was captain he was reluctant to use part time bowlers.

using the part timers would help to fetch more time for pacers and keep them fresh also utilise part timers to get 1 or 2 wickets is a bonus.


Haris Sohail should have bowled 12 -15 overs at least here and Shan Masood should have 7-10 overs as well, when the opponents play 120+ overs

Looking at shaheen afridi bowling 36 overs is simply ridiculous , Yasir bowled 37 overs just for comparison.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Looked almost completely hapless and toothless. Unfortunately we are stuck with him. The real champs like Saqi and Murali would not be hanging back waiting for others to get the job done even on unhelpful tracks. Disappointing yes but the reverse sweep by Misbah to select Faheem simply because he took Williamson's wicket in a meaningless T20 is the much bigger blundell. Come on Misbah!

The other options he has are Musa and Sohail Khan. Again those are his selections

 

[Snowflake]

100%!

Listeb to any of his interviews and you'll know. Poor guy is as basic as they come. Needs a smart captain to be successful

 

[starbuck]

Apart from him and Zafar, are there an good spinners in domestic cricket?

 

[D/DAhmed]

This is a trend with a lot of the cricketers coming out of KPK recently. A lot of them have fantastic natural talent and all the skills, but seem to lack any semblance of cricketing intellect/game awareness. The best out of all the KPK talent in this sense is Shaheen, and even he is essentially a one-trick pony in test cricket. I'm not sure what the reason is for this, but it needs to be sorted out as soon as possible, otherwise we will see more of these brainless buffoons representing Pakistan.

 

[JibranAnsari]

He has been worked out , most of his wickets were of natural variations. He doesnt get much leg spin any more , so all the opposition has to negotiate are the wicket to wicket threat. Plus he bowls a hit me ball every over which doesnt make him suitable as a containing option either.

 

[sshakir411]

Does not grip the ball right. He’s okay in the sub continent where he can owl over after over. Can’t think on his feet

 

[FearlessRoar]

n the Ramzan Ghani Tournament 2024, Yasir Shah showed he still has the skills for T20 cricket. He took 2 wickets for only 19 runs in his 4 overs.

 

[Savak]

n the Ramzan Ghani Tournament 2024, Yasir Shah showed he still has the skills for T20 cricket. He took 2 wickets for only 19 runs in his 4 overs.

He is done. Can't judge him on a Ramzan tournament. Sports reporters mention he doesn't even play domestic cricket anymore, he knows his time is up and he has been focusing on setting up his businesses outside cricket.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

He is done. Can't judge him on a Ramzan tournament. Sports reporters mention he doesn't even play domestic cricket anymore, he knows his time is up and he has been focusing on setting up his businesses outside cricket.

Well he wasn't a good bowler... luck helped him take that many wickets otherwise I have never seen any variety in his bowling.

 

[Theo_14]

He fell off dramatically. Never seen a player decline so quickly.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Yasir was just fit enough to play test cricket. He was never good enough to play a whiteball game. These random tournaments which local players should play only, will not do any favor to the guys who have played international cricket for the country. They are just there to encourage and boost the confidence of local talent.

 

[Seam Specialist]

The whole scandal of him threatening a rape victim really did a number on his career. After that, it felt that the team management and selectors itself didn't want to include him as his last series in Sri Lanka wasn't that bad and he did outperform Noman Ali consistently but they chose Noman over him after that series.