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Just don’t please
He is a kind of a player he will score just to save his career
So he can torture us again for 3 years
This is the problem with pcb
They don’t have the guts to drop these kind of guys just because he scored century in a draw match bet with me in the next innings if it happened he will not score more than 5
 
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raashidkhan89079 said:
Just don't please
He is a kind of a player he will score just to save his career
So he can torture us again for 3 years
This is the problem with pcb
They don't have ******* guts to drop these kind of guys just because he scored century in a draw match bet with me in the next innings if it happened he will not score more than 5
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Absolutely cracking knock from him today. Definition of a captain's innings. He deserves to live another day.
 
Most of us know this. However its too late now. Azhar is not getting dropped now. We can only hope that shafiq fails now, otherwise he will get another year at minimum.
 
Great temprement, dedication, and knock. If it wasn't for his captain's innings, then Pakistan would've been in the middle of their second innings by tea.
 
It was an absolute flat wicket..i expect similar knock from asad shafiq next innings
 
Sir i agree with you but do keep this in your mind the so called great temperament dedication and wonderful knock was just to save his career not for saving pakistan team to Atleast draw this match
 
Yeah, I expect Shafiq to deliver a 80 odd not out in 2nd inning now :yk
 
Technics 1210 said:
Great temprement, dedication, and knock. If it wasn't for his captain's innings, then Pakistan would've been in the middle of their second innings by tea.
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We will still lose by an innings. It will still be a humiliating loss, so all he did was save his spot for at least one more year.
 
Give Kamran Akmal or Salman Butt 3 years of Test cricket, and they will give you 2-3 great innings as well. Doesn't mean they should be in the team - same goes for Azhar.

You need consistent batsmen, and that is not what Azhar is at this stage of his career.
 
It's a great knock, there can be no denying the quality of the innings. He survived tough periods against the new ball and kept going with the pressure of wickets falling from the other end.

That said I still believe his career should be over. Failure in the 2018 tour, failure in Australia, failure in South Africa and just one good innings on this tour. Unacceptable returns from a senior batsman.

You are supposed to demand consistent performance from senior batsmen not make excuses for them not performing.
 
Good innings but don't be fooled. Azhar like Malik, like Hafeez, like Wahab, and Amir are all operating on borrowed time. The decision makers view them as entities outside an egalitarian process. Hence our mediocrity.

FORM MEANS NOTHING
 
Amazing back to the wall . If he had more support at the other end it might have been an innings to remember.
 
Why are Pakistani fans driven to root against their own?

I want to add Shan, Asad, and Yasir to that list.
 
I don't agree with OP.
This is not fluke knock, absolutely one of the best innings.
 
Its a shame that there are so called pakistani fans who want azhar ali to fail just so that they can prove a point and have their favourites play.
 
Well his job is to score runs and he did that today. Can't really fault him today.
 
Give the guy a break !! Deserves another series at least , anyone can score 100 when pressure is off , but to do it when pressure is on and your team is down shows massive guts!

Deserves all the praise in the world
 
Very poor OP.

This is a hugely impressive knock by Azhar Ali and has potentially saved a drawn Test for Pakistan. He was under immense pressure and showed great mental strength, as well as considerable skill to overcome some personal technical challenges.
 
Major said:
Its a shame that there are so called pakistani fans who want azhar ali to fail just so that they can prove a point and have their favourites play.
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So true bro.

Being 20/4, Pakistan could have humiliated themselves by being 60 all out easily.

This man salvaged lost pride for himself and for Pakistan so much so some ultra positive people are even talking about an outside chance of a win here.

Then you have these sort of people who cannot bring themselves to honour someone doing well for the country. Disgraceful to day the least and I ask myself why I even bother
 
Major said:
Its a shame that there are so called pakistani fans who want azhar ali to fail just so that they can prove a point and have their favourites play.
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Just like how you were happy to see Mickey gone, so your favourite Misbah could take over from him.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
 
Major said:
Its a shame that there are so called pakistani fans who want azhar ali to fail just so that they can prove a point and have their favourites play.
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There's several on this thread that are praying for their own players to fail, it's beggar's belief!
 
Kenpachi said:
There's several on this thread that are praying for their own players to fail, it's beggar's belief!
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These same people used to hope and pray that Sarfaraz fails and never praised him when he did well or captained well, always came up with one excuse or the other.


Now they have an issue with people not celebrating Azhar's 'performance'.


Pot. Kettle. Black



That being said it was a good knock, albeit quite meaningless.
 
I am not sure what to say. Just Wow!

Yes Azhar has been struggling for a long time now but he put his heart and soul into this knock and played brilliantly. I dont think anybody can deny that.

In my opinion he definitely should relinquish captaincy and remain in the team as a player. While Asad who never did anything of not in his career along with unfortunately Fawad whose career has been destroyed by administrators need to go to make roam for other players.
 
Syed1 said:
These same people used to hope and pray that Sarfaraz fails and never praised him when he did well or captained well, always came up with one excuse or the other.


Now they have an issue with people not celebrating Azhar's 'performance'.


Pot. Kettle. Black



That being said it was a good knock, albeit quite meaningless.
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Not meaningless. He may have saved Pakistan and earned a draw.
 
Syed1 said:
These same people used to hope and pray that Sarfaraz fails and never praised him when he did well or captained well, always came up with one excuse or the other.


Now they have an issue with people not celebrating Azhar's 'performance'.


Pot. Kettle. Black



That being said it was a good knock, albeit quite meaningless.
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Are you trying to insinuate that I was one of those praying for Sarfraz to fail?

Ive never commented about Sarfraz on this forum...
 
If he can go back to making runs consistently again I have no problems with him in the team.
 
Kenpachi said:
Are you trying to insinuate that I was one of those praying for Sarfraz to fail?

Ive never commented about Sarfraz on this forum...
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No, I was talking about others in this thread who have an issue with people not celebrating Azhar's ton.
 
Somebody who has a career average overall of 43 and 17 test hundreds is not somebody who has fired only when his place is in doubt.

Notwithstanding that his career over the last 2 years has been disappointing. However his knock today needs to be appreciated, under pressure personally and the team being under pressure he rose to the occasion .

Gives us an outside chance of saving the game .
 
Truly ridiculous OP; some wuood, not unreasonably, even call it shameful.
He showed grit , determination and courage. Exactly the qualities that we lack in so many of our batsmen.
The fact there are people who post on here who want our own players to fail is indicative of the somewhat juvenile approach of many of the so-called fans.
 
He proved you wrong OP. Wishing bad on anything is low man. Amazingknockout hopefully this will inspire the rest of the team to score wwll
 
Fantastic knock. Having said that, probably a good opportunity for him to retire on a high after this game :azhar
 
Come off it guys...we at best play 5 to 7 tests a year...one ot two every 5 months...our team is always gonna be inconsistent.
I'll just drop one of Fawad, Asad and Haris and push Rizwan at 6.
One of Shadab or Faheem at 7 or both to give the bowlers some cover.
 
Major said:
Its a shame that there are so called pakistani fans who want azhar ali to fail just so that they can prove a point and have their favourites play.
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Really?
His knock is appreciable but had he been playing for another country,he'd be retired by now. We just like to recycle trash.Same goes for Asad. They both play an innings in the series to keep their spot.
 
We all must admit at least one thing.
It was truly a hell of a knock.
 
It was a good knock albeit not a draw earning one. Only rwin can do that for Pakistan
 
azimiqbal said:
Give the guy a break !! Deserves another series at least , anyone can score 100 when pressure is off , but to do it when pressure is on and your team is down shows massive guts!

Deserves all the praise in the world
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Unbelievable knock , topped off by coming back out to bat
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with playing Azhar as an opener.

That way you can open up a middle order slot.

Chuck out shafiq and drop Abid.
 
I don’t see the point of this thread.

We all know that Azhar is an atrocious captain, Pakistan is an atrocious team, and Azhar is on his last legs as a batsman.

In the long-term, this innings will mean nothing and in the short-term, it is not going to save the match for Pakistan either.

However, it was a fantastic innings in isolation and deserves to be praised. Had he flopped, people would have criticized him so why not praise him for scoring one of his best hundreds ever?
 
Let's for a minute celebrate Azhar's useless ton here, he deserves it as it was a very good knock.

However, come Tuesday or perhaps even tomorrow, I can guarantee you that PP will be in meltdown after yet another shameful series loss.

Ultimately we want to see Pakistan win cricket other than against Zimb, Ireland and SL C teams.

Unfortunately, this is all we have been reduced to, celebrating moral victories or individual scores that have no significance other than booking said individual's spot for the next tour.

Pakistan is the second biggest cricket nation on earth and we should at least be able to compete with the top teams if not win. But a lot of our fans are content with the minnow mentality.
 
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Kenpachi said:
There's several on this thread that are praying for their own players to fail, it's beggar's belief!
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just so that their favorites could play some way in the Pakistan cricket team.

No surprises with this mentality, you have these kinds on the media aswell and thats where others learn.

Will you ever see English commies like Nasser or Athers not being happy when their countrymen score runs? Wonder had they been sad when Alistair cook regained his form back in 2010
 
Mamoon said:
I don’t see the point of this thread.

We all know that Azhar is an atrocious captain, Pakistan is an atrocious team, and Azhar is on his last legs as a batsman.

In the long-term, this innings will mean nothing and in the short-term, it is not going to save the match for Pakistan either.

However, it was a fantastic innings in isolation and deserves to be praised. Had he flopped, people would have criticized him so why not praise him for scoring one of his best hundreds ever?
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I think he should continue as batsmen but relinquish the captaincy.
 
Major said:
just so that their favorites could play some way in the Pakistan cricket team.

No surprises with this mentality, you have these kinds on the media aswell and thats where others learn.

Will you ever see English commies like Nasser or Athers not being happy when their countrymen score runs? Wonder had they been sad when Alistair cook regained his form back in 2010
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By all means people should promote other players who deserve a chance at international level.

I don't think several players deserve to be in the team but i dont hope/pray they flop.

You have to be a plastic fan in order to do that!
 
This century defiantly earned him a spot for a year or so. Until he starts performing consistently I won’t value these runs.
 
Shazzam said:
This century defiantly earned him a spot for a year or so. Until he starts performing consistently I won’t value these runs.
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Too often these runs come in yet another shattering defeat but fans are jumping up and down with joy.
 
He needs to give up the captaincy and fight for a place in the side through consistent performances.

Excellent knock today, but in the overall scheme of things wont change the result of the game one bit. We couldve certainly used half of those runs in the 2nd innings of the first test match.
 
Kroll said:
Let's for a minute celebrate Azhar's useless ton here, he deserves it as it was a very good knock.

However, come Tuesday or perhaps even tomorrow, I can guarantee you that PP will be in meltdown after yet another shameful series loss.

Ultimately we want to see Pakistan win cricket other than against Zimb, Ireland and SL C teams.

Unfortunately, this is all we have been reduced to, celebrating moral victories or individual scores that have no significance other than booking said individual's spot for the next tour.

Pakistan is the second biggest cricket nation on earthand we should at least be able to compete with the top teams if not win. But a lot of our fans are content with the minnow mentality.
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“Pakistan is the second biggest cricket nation on earth”
You cannot judge a country’s prowess at a sport by its population. By that measure China would be the “biggest” football side in the world etc. Germany with a population of 80million has consistently been one of the leading football teams.
We have never really been a leading cricket country and probably never will be. Isolated moments of excellence linked by mediocrity is actually what we have seen for the best part of fifty years. Anything else is delusional.
 
Kroll said:
Too often these runs come in yet another shattering defeat but fans are jumping up and down with joy.
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Yeah its like we forgot the past few games. If he had scored these runs in early Tests we would not be in this position right now.

A draw here means we lose the series. A loss here means we lose this series. In order to prevent a series loss we gotta win this Test match. Can this innings win us the Test match? That we got to see.
 
Mamoon said:
I don’t see the point of this thread.

We all know that Azhar is an atrocious captain, Pakistan is an atrocious team, and Azhar is on his last legs as a batsman.

In the long-term, this innings will mean nothing and in the short-term, it is not going to save the match for Pakistan either.

However, it was a fantastic innings in isolation and deserves to be praised. Had he flopped, people would have criticized him so why not praise him for scoring one of his best hundreds ever?
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Fair points though “atrocious” is a bit harsh. We are a very average side and England at hone are a very good one.
 
Shazzam said:
Yeah its like we forgot the past few games. If he had scored these runs in early Tests we would not be in this position right now.

A draw here means we lose the series. A loss here means we lose this series. In order to prevent a series loss we gotta win this Test match. Can this innings win us the Test match? That we got to see.
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Surely you did not have any realistic expectation that Pakistan would win (or even draw) this series. That’s is unrealistic given the gulf in quality between the two sides. The best we can hope for is some decent performances (Shan and Azhar’s hundreds) and that’s about it. Don’t be delusional
 
gibsyhesperis said:
Surely you did not have any realistic expectation that Pakistan would win (or even draw) this series. That’s is unrealistic given the gulf in quality between the two sides. The best we can hope for is some decent performances (Shan and Azhar’s hundreds) and that’s about it. Don’t be delusional
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If I am not watching my team to win whats the point of me watching the match? We sent our best 11 did we not? If so it surely means they are there to win. So I should be expecting them to win.
 
At least this thread is consistent with what 90% of this forum was echoing yesterday. Can't understand the sudden u-turn of some.

No one is taking the glory away from Azhar, yes great ton, excellent milestone. But surely you have to take a holistic view of his performance this series as batter and skipper and have to be honest with yourself.
 
gibsyhesperis said:
“Pakistan is the second biggest cricket nation on earth”
You cannot judge a country’s prowess at a sport by its population. By that measure China would be the “biggest” football side in the world etc. Germany with a population of 80million has consistently been one of the leading football teams.
We have never really been a leading cricket country and probably never will be. Isolated moments of excellence linked by mediocrity is actually what we have seen for the best part of fifty years. Anything else is delusional.
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I'm not asking them to be the leading side, but I think we should be better than the current mediocrity. At least in the 90s we beat End in Test series in 92 and 96. We were also able to beat teams like NZ away until recent times.

Although we haven't beaten Aus, we also had our chances even as late as 2010 if it wasn't for Kamran Akmal. So there has been some consistency there. But now we can't even compete, never mind any isolated moments of excellence.
 
Unblievable, the guy might have just saved pakistan from a innings hammering if you consider the weather forecast for next 2 days
 
Manunited18 said:
Unblievable, the guy might have just saved pakistan from a innings hammering if you consider the weather forecast for next 2 days
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Doesn't matter, we had to go for the win to save the series not save Pak from inns defeat. Although Rizwan thinks we can still do it.
 
Ab Fan said:
Yeah, I expect Shafiq to deliver a 80 odd not out in 2nd inning now :yk
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Usually I would say so as well, but I don’t know this whole series he’s looked like he’s about to get out any minute here. So I don’t expect him to score his typical flamboyant 50+ score to book his spot for the next series.
 
What if he comes out and scores big again tommorow? Say a double hundred?

Anyhow this was an amazing knock and he deserves appreciation for it.
 
Credit to him for this innings However team pakistan needs more consistentcy from him

He cant be avging like a tailender for series on end
 
Buffet said:
3-4 years at least, until Misbah is in control.
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I'm not averse to Azhar staying in the team for a long period, just not as a batsmen.

Personally i think Azhar should be playing at 4 or maybe even a 5 given he can succeed in the middle of the game once the new ball has died down a bit.
 
Those calling for Azhar to relinquish the captaincy , I just want to know who are the candidates .

Babar - still finding his feet and has had rather quiet series . Burdening captaincy will just add to the weight on his shoulders .

Shan - nope

Rizwan - Way to early -

I don’t really see who else . Making Babar captain of all 3 formats will do more harm than good to him .

I think as long as azhar can score runs he will be captain for the next few series so that Babar or someone else can further consolidate their position in the team before taking over .
 
GreenKhan said:
Those calling for Azhar to relinquish the captaincy , I just want to know who are the candidates .

Babar - still finding his feet and has had rather quiet series . Burdening captaincy will just add to the weight on his shoulders .

Shan - nope

Rizwan - Way to early -

I don’t really see who else . Making Babar captain of all 3 formats will do more harm than good to him .

I think as long as azhar can score runs he will be captain for the next few series so that Babar or someone else can further consolidate their position in the team before taking over .
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Till that happens its best to expect us to lose series against too teams. Solid plan.
 
I expected him to score a 50 but he scored a century so well done to him. Asad will score a 70 in 2nd innings!

Just before they are dropped these 2 score always, can't drop and will not score consistently again, this is torturous for fans :facepalm:
 
First of all, Azhar's knock today was terrific.

Second, I am amazed at many of the Indian posters responses on Azhar. They would have dropped Azhar from their team 2 years ago but of course they have to show their disingenuity wherever they can. Please find a better use of your time.

Now for those who are calling shame on the Pakistani posters who were hoping for Azhar to fail, lets get real for a real fan there is no such thing. When the game is on no fan roots against any single individual, none nada. I am a big critic of Azhar's spot in the team but not for a second would I want him to fail in a middle of a match. That is ridiculous to me as a fan. Because to me country comes before any cricketer.

Azhar should gracefully retire. He is way past his due date. He shouldn't have been picked in this team let alone captain it. One innings should not define a player. 2 years of mediocrity 100% should put a ribbon on your spot in the team. What struck me was the high 5ing of Misbah and Younis when your team is on the brink of losing a series they SHOULD HAVE WON had your batter didn't choke. It is just the kind of mindset that leads to losing over and over again, and its just the mindset our seemingly friendly Indian posters want us to continue to have but of course they wouldn't never put up with it when it comes to their team.

We are out of the this test championship. What does backing 4 aged players in our batting lineup get us? Abid, Asad, Azhar and Fawad, what is the return on investment? Maybe you can take 1 of these forward for the changing of the guard but you can't have 4 players on the wrong side of 32. It boggles my mind the thought process that goes in when selecting such an aged batting lineup. For bowlers we want 17-20 year olds and for batters 32+, are there no players in Pakistan in between that deserve a chance to fight for their place in the side?

We can celebrate Azhar innings in isolation but to say that he should continue to lead the Zimbabwe series is pathetic. This is exactly what keeps us mediocre. Seniors fail, get an easy series on flat tracks and then we head to NZ to fail again. All the while we could be giving younger players a go and build their confidence. We can let Babar captain the ZIM series so he has experience going into NZ. But of course the real captain is the one sitting in the dugout. What a debacle it was when we decided to go with Misbah as coach.
 
GreenKhan said:
Those calling for Azhar to relinquish the captaincy , I just want to know who are the candidates .

Babar - still finding his feet and has had rather quiet series . Burdening captaincy will just add to the weight on his shoulders .

Shan - nope

Rizwan - Way to early -

I don’t really see who else . Making Babar captain of all 3 formats will do more harm than good to him .

I think as long as azhar can score runs he will be captain for the next few series so that Babar or someone else can further consolidate their position in the team before taking over .
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You think just like Wasim Akram..."there is no lines of captain waiting"....yepp in all other countries captains are born at birth

fact is real captain is Misbah sitting in dugout, would never want any player with a spine captain
 
UsmanhailsAfridi said:
We are out of the this test championship. What does backing 4 aged players in our batting lineup get us? Abid, Asad, Azhar and Fawad, what is the return on investment? Maybe you can take 1 of these forward for the changing of the guard but you can't have 4 players on the wrong side of 32. It boggles my mind the thought process that goes in when selecting such an aged batting lineup. For bowlers we want 17-20 year olds and for batters 32+, are there no players in Pakistan in between that deserve a chance to fight for their place in the side?
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It's worse than that.

Pakistan has several guys aged 24-28 whose numbers suggest they are ready for Test cricket - Sami Aslam, Saud Shakeel and Imran Butt for starters.

But the whole batting order consists of Over Thirty batsmen plus Babar Azam.

The guys who can still develop are being deprived of that opportunity, just as Fawad Alam was when he was yoiung enough to improve.

And then when the seniors leave in a cluster, the younger guys will all be rookies together.
 
UsmanhailsAfridi said:
You think just like Wasim Akram..."there is no lines of captain waiting"....yepp in all other countries captains are born at birth

fact is real captain is Misbah sitting in dugout, would never want any player with a spine captain
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I have no issue with somebody else being captain . However who else can be captain ? Suggestions would be interesting .
 
Junaids said:
The other team's Number 3 scored 267.

This is a dead, dead wicket.
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So how do you explain the fact that we were 29/4 if it was a dead wicket, with the remainder of the top 6 failing to cross 20 including Babar .

If it was a dead wicket we would have been 300-6.

This is just another example of egg in your face . Where you are finding reasons for undermine a player succeeding just because you have a personal dislike towards them either due to them being over 30 or for what ever other reason .

Stop hating just for the sake of it .
 
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