Donald Trump and Narendra Modi warn Pakistan over terror 'launches'

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US President Donald Trump and Indian PM Narendra Modi have met for the first time in Washington DC, vowing to fight terrorism together while issuing a warning to Pakistan.

The two leaders, who hugged each other in front of reporters, also praised their countries' warm relations.
They discussed increasing trade links and security co-operation.

Mr Modi was also the first foreign dignitary to have dinner at the White House with Mr Trump.

A White House statement said the two leaders "resolved that India and the US will fight together" against terrorism which they called a "grave challenge to humanity", pledging to expand the sharing of intelligence and deepen joint counter-terrorism efforts.

They also "called on Pakistan to ensure that its territory is not used to launch terrorist attacks on other countries".

The leaders said they would strengthen co-operation against threats including Pakistan-based militant groups Jaish-e-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Taiba.


Trade and security were high on the agenda at the White House

They urged Pakistan to "expeditiously bring to justice" those behind the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks and last year's attack on an air base in Pathankot, which Indian officials have suggested were perpetrated by those two militant groups.

India has seen several terror attacks in recent years which Delhi claims were conducted by Pakistan-based militants.
It has also accused Pakistan of secretly sponsoring some of these attacks, which Pakistan has strongly denied.

India also "appreciated" the recent move by the US to label top Kashmiri militant Syed Salahuddin a "specially designated global terrorist", the White House said. The move effectively blocks him from transactions in the US.

On the same page - Sanjoy Majumder, BBC News, India correspondent

The Trump administration's strong words on Pakistan and terror will be seen as a major diplomatic victory for India.

Previous US presidents, such as Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, also came out with similar rhetoric but it never translated to anything more substantial, mainly because both were warned by the state department of the perils of isolating Pakistan.

In Donald Trump, however, Delhi senses a difference - a president who is more blunt and outspoken on Islamist terror without worrying about any potential diplomatic fallout.

So on that score, Trump and Modi are on the same page. But India's main concern is Pakistani support for Kashmiri separatist groups, at a time when the situation in Indian-administered Kashmir is particularly tense.

The US, on the other hand, is more concerned with the situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan's perceived support for militant groups operating there as well as the Taliban, at a time when President Trump has approved plans to increase American troops on the ground.

Earlier on Tuesday, Mr Modi and Mr Trump gave a joint news conference in the White House's Rose Garden.

"The relationship between India and the United States has never been stronger, never been better," President Trump said.
He praised Indian airline SpiceJet's recent order of 100 planes from US manufacturer Boeing, and said he looked forward to exporting more energy resources to India, including natural gas.

Mr Trump, who regularly posts on Twitter, also described himself and Mr Modi as "world leaders in social media".

Mr Modi said the US was India's "primary partner" for its social and economic transformation, and that his plan for a "new India" converged with Mr Trump's "vision for 'making America great again'".

He invited President Trump and his family to visit India, which Mr Trump accepted, said the White House.


Mr Modi and Mr Trump dined in the Blue Room of the White House

Earlier in his trip to the US, Mr Modi met the heads of 20 US companies, including Apple's Tim Cook and Google's Sundar Pichai.

He told them that his government had pushed through thousands of reforms to make India "business friendly".

He later tweeted: "Interacted with top CEOs. We held extensive discussions on opportunities in India."


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[Arham_PakFan]

Trump and Modi,a match made in heaven.

 

[syed abbas]

Irrespective of what Modi and Trump say,should we not take action against LT and JM.It is against the spirit of NAP to consistently ignore these non-state actors.If Pakistan still continues with the policy of good militants and bad militants,then how can we counter militancy?It is in Pakistan's,not Indian,interest to take firm action against these groups.

 

[the Great Khan]

lol..the usual nonsense. The american commanders on the ground however have other ideas. We can simply ignore this bakwaas and carry on with our current plans. the Salala massacre was a game changer and the americans cant do anything other than the odd drone attack here and there,this is all related to the shift to counter China and CPEC. It will fail.

 

[ShadabFakhar]

Tldr;

Pakistan based terrorist attacks are bad, the rest are fine.

 

[KingKhanWC]

How embarrasing for India. A country with a much bigger army has to go begging America for support.

Both are state sponsors of terrorism themselves.

 

[Syed1]

Yes Modi ji, Kulbushan Yadav was sun tanning on the beaches of Baluchistan.

 

[Lonewarrior]

first of all, Trump never used the word "Pakistan" in his whole statement. its media whos using these words.
secondly, Trump takes $366 million deal for "1" C-17 aircraft and $2 Billion for some 20 UAVs, from Modi ji to give some vague statement for Indian media/public .....
thats all .....

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Irrespective of what Modi and Trump say,should we not take action against LT and JM.It is against the spirit of NAP to consistently ignore these non-state actors.If Pakistan still continues with the policy of good militants and bad militants,then how can we counter militancy?It is in Pakistan's,not Indian,interest to take firm action against these groups.

How about Lashkar e Jhangvi & ASWJ ?


If we can maintain peace in AJK than why not in Balochistan & KPK areas where opressed Shia live ? When will we end Shia persecution/massacre/genocide ?

 

[Stewie]

Every American govt in front of India "bad Pakistan, don't do that again"

Behind India " please Pakistan we will pay you handsomely for using your space to launch attacks o other sovereign nations, let's be friends forever"

India gets miffed, goes crying to America again in a few months for the cycle to start all over again.


They will say whatever they want in the media but Pakistan and US are strategic allies and they can't go without each other's help.



India ko jo putna hai, put le!

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Every American govt in front of India "bad Pakistan, don't do that again"

Behind India " please Pakistan we will pay you handsomely for using your space to launch attacks o other sovereign nations, let's be friends forever"

India gets miffed, goes crying to America again in a few months for the cycle to start all over again.


They will say whatever they want in the media but Pakistan and US are strategic allies and they can't go without each other's help.



India ko jo putna hai, put le!

not really

It's more a marriage of convenience that Pakistan needs to wean out of

You can not be strategic partners if you have vastly different strategic goals for the region

India and USA are bound by economics and a common desire to contain China.

 

[Saeed]

If he feels strongly about this he will tweet about it from his personal account. But having said that all militant group should be dealt with regardless of what Trump or extremists like Modi have to say. A secure Pakistan will be stronger to deal with its enemies than the one which has terrorists running around all over the country.

 

[90MPH]

Trump since he has become president has actually not criticised Pakistan.

Infact if anything he wants a strong relationship with them - if you go by the leaked telephone calls between him and Shariff.

No doubt the Indian government want him to name and shame Pakistan publicly because it will be a massive PR victory for Modi and his supporters but think Trump and his team saw what was coming so haven't sung the tune Mr Modi wants him to.

 

[StreetSmart]

Yes Modi ji, Kulbushan Yadav was sun tanning on the beaches of Baluchistan.

Out Mushi Bhai showed them their real strength and face yet they still ignore that Lol!!!!

 

[StreetSmart]

Trump since he has become president has actually not criticised Pakistan.

Infact if anything he wants a strong relationship with them - if you go by the leaked telephone calls between him and Shariff.

No doubt the Indian government want him to name and shame Pakistan publicly because it will be a massive PR victory for Modi and his supporters but think Trump and his team saw what was coming so haven't sung the tune Mr Modi wants him to.

This is not for the first they are Forcing Trump to name Pakistan as a terrorist nation but everytime they are just getting ignored like they will be this time

 

[Enigma_]

first of all, Trump never used the word "Pakistan" in his whole statement. its media whos using these words.
secondly, Trump takes $366 million deal for "1" C-17 aircraft and $2 Billion for some 20 UAVs, from Modi ji to give some vague statement for Indian media/public .....
thats all .....

This. Nothing but a sweetner from Trump for the Arms deal.

 

[PakLFC]

What else do you expect when forcing a microphone down some American diplomats throat? This zillionth warning to Pakistan will be as effective as America's $10 million bounty on Hafiz Saeed. To Modi, Trump tells him what India wants to hear then straight on the phone to Nawaz Sharif calling him a great leader!rby How naive are these Bharatis?. Nothing to fear here at all folks, China seems more concerned then we are. http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/cata...hinese-media-1717561?pfrom=home-lateststories

 

[syed abbas]

How about Lashkar e Jhangvi & ASWJ ?


If we can maintain peace in AJK than why not in Balochistan & KPK areas where opressed Shia live ? When will we end Shia persecution/massacre/genocide ?

The security situation,dynamics and policies in AJK are different from those in KPK and Balochistan.In Balochistan,security agencies used the same tactic of using banned religious outfits to counter the nationalists and separatists.In simple words,state considered sectarian groups as "strategic assets".In return,these outfits enjoy "independence" and "immunity".
And some areas in the KPK are the hub of militant groups with strong anti-Shia views.Some of these militant groups are still considered as GOOD TALIBAN by security establishment.The notion of good Taliban is so strong that a previous ISI chief suggested to send these good Talibans to fight Indian soldiers when war hysteria was created as a result of Mumabi attacks in 2008.So,these strategic assets will continue to operate.
And the state does not feel the need to adopt the policy of using these groups in AJK because there are liberation groups in AJK like those in Balochistan.
And how to end Shia persecution?Only if military ends its policy of good and bad militant.LJ head was killed because he entered the folds of bad militant by making operational alliance with Islamic State.Shia persection will end but it will take many years.

 

[Nostalgic]

In Balochistan,security agencies used the same tactic of using banned religious outfits to counter the nationalists and separatists.In simple words,state considered sectarian groups as "strategic assets".In return,these outfits enjoy "independence" and "immunity".

Precisely. It is an open secret that these outfits are "allowed" to target the Hazaras, as long as they also target the BLA. I can't think of a more sickening quid pro quo.

 

[syed abbas]

Precisely. It is an open secret that these outfits are "allowed" to target the Hazaras, as long as they also target the BLA. I can't think of a more sickening quid pro quo.

And sadly,no one questions this policy of military and a few people are aware of this policy being followed in Balochistan.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

The security situation,dynamics and policies in AJK are different from those in KPK and Balochistan.In Balochistan,security agencies used the same tactic of using banned religious outfits to counter the nationalists and separatists.In simple words,state considered sectarian groups as "strategic assets".In return,these outfits enjoy "independence" and "immunity".
And some areas in the KPK are the hub of militant groups with strong anti-Shia views.Some of these militant groups are still considered as GOOD TALIBAN by security establishment.The notion of good Taliban is so strong that a previous ISI chief suggested to send these good Talibans to fight Indian soldiers when war hysteria was created as a result of Mumabi attacks in 2008.So,these strategic assets will continue to operate.
And the state does not feel the need to adopt the policy of using these groups in AJK because there are liberation groups in AJK like those in Balochistan.
And how to end Shia persecution?Only if military ends its policy of good and bad militant.LJ head was killed because he entered the folds of bad militant by making operational alliance with Islamic State.Shia persection will end but it will take many years.

Go Government's move than to go for DAWN LEAKS was Spot On ?

Will any Gov have the courage to Cut Defence budget if these terrorists outfits are not dismantled by the establishment ?

 

[syed abbas]

Go Government's move than to go for DAWN LEAKS was Spot On ?

Will any Gov have the courage to Cut Defence budget if these terrorists outfits are not dismantled by the establishment ?

I doubt that military has started go government move solely due to DAWN LEAKS.I think that military does not want a prime minister to complete five year term.They do not a civilian government to become too powerful to challenge army.By removing prime minister,they want to weaken the civilian government to let themselves run the government without being public.And this is the essence of SOFT COUP.That is why,they will not allow to Nawaz Sharif to complete his term,though his government may complete its term.
No civilian government will be courageous enough to cut defence budget to compel the establishment to end the policy of good and bad Taliban.Only China can persuade military to end this policy.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

What about all the thousands of Pakistani Shia militants fighting for Iran and Assad in Iraq and Syria when they come home?...

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

I doubt that military has started go government move solely due to DAWN LEAKS.I think that military does not want a prime minister to complete five year term.They do not a civilian government to become too powerful to challenge army.By removing prime minister,they want to weaken the civilian government to let themselves run the government without being public.And this is the essence of SOFT COUP.That is why,they will not allow to Nawaz Sharif to complete his term,though his government may complete its term.
No civilian government will be courageous enough to cut defence budget to compel the establishment to end the policy of good and bad Taliban.Only China can persuade military to end this policy.

I don't blame entire Military but the think tank. God knows who devised the structure & system of a sub department of Army whose middle management has hold over entire Establishment. It's a complete mystery.

Even with one Head being close relative of Sharif's they are helpless.


I don't think Super Power USA or CHINA can or have been able to persuade or mold them. Naa.


The Same Sharif who are anti at the moment will once again be there best friend once they want to weaken or bring down Zardari, Gillani or Imran. This is there policy.


Gillani, GOD knows whether He was or is Corrupt had to pay heavily for his Honest Comment of " State within a State " comment until He had to grab their feet to get his Son back God knows by paying how many Crore ransom.


It is believed that the same Establishment was behind Sharif to knock on the door of SC in Memogate Scandal aswell as in Judges reinstatement movement and than KIANI helped him gain 2/3rd majority.


This Musical chair with 52 years Old God father continues....



With a Massive Army & Massive budget we should not need these terrorist outfits who disgrace Us worlwide and also are the major force behind Sectarian killings especially Shia killings but no matter whatever happens they are not willing to change. This is the only reason that NAP, Zarb e Azab & Radd ul Fasaad fail because of No Intent. Because of terrorism our Economy gets affected massively yet they don't care because their strategic assets matter more.


Average Pakistani is busy abusing Sharif's & Zardari left right because of the Proganda and Campaigns and are absolutely clueless about the Realities.


I have no Idea how IK can beat this mighty deep state to come into power and if he does than how will he fix him ? If he fails to fix them than He won't succeed in anti corruption & justice drive either. In the process He may get overthrown. And if he compromises to complete 5 years than the change he is after won't come in either 15 years.

 

[syed abbas]

I don't blame entire Military but the think tank. God knows who devised the structure & system of a sub department of Army whose middle management has hold over entire Establishment. It's a complete mystery.

Even with one Head being close relative of Sharif's they are helpless.


I don't think Super Power USA or CHINA can or have been able to persuade or mold them. Naa.


The Same Sharif who are anti at the moment will once again be there best friend once they want to weaken or bring down Zardari, Gillani or Imran. This is there policy.


Gillani, GOD knows whether He was or is Corrupt had to pay heavily for his Honest Comment of " State within a State " comment until He had to grab their feet to get his Son back God knows by paying how many Crore ransom.


It is believed that the same Establishment was behind Sharif to knock on the door of SC in Memogate Scandal aswell as in Judges reinstatement movement and than KIANI helped him gain 2/3rd majority.


This Musical chair with 52 years Old God father continues....



With a Massive Army & Massive budget we should not need these terrorist outfits who disgrace Us worlwide and also are the major force behind Sectarian killings especially Shia killings but no matter whatever happens they are not willing to change. This is the only reason that NAP, Zarb e Azab & Radd ul Fasaad fail because of No Intent. Because of terrorism our Economy gets affected massively yet they don't care because their strategic assets matter more.


Average Pakistani is busy abusing Sharif's & Zardari left right because of the Proganda and Campaigns and are absolutely clueless about the Realities.


I have no Idea how IK can beat this mighty deep state to come into power and if he does than how will he fix him ? If he fails to fix them than He won't succeed in anti corruption & justice drive either. In the process He may get overthrown. And if he compromises to complete 5 years than the change he is after won't come in either 15 years.

Gillani had to pay the price for civil-military relations imbalance.And Imran Khan is doing exactly what Nawaz Sharif did against PP government at the behest of military.
You are right that NAP will fail to counter terrorism because of wrong intent.
IK will not be able to eliminate this deep state.It is too much to expect him to do so.While common people bash politicians,powers that be will run the show.

 

[Mracer]

Read this interesting analysis on FB on the attacks.


The Triple Attack: Quetta, Parachinar and Karachi

The Parachinar attack is part of a wave of three simultaneous attacks in Quetta and Karachi. The other two were not sectarian. There is a strong reason to believe that Parachinar too was not a sectarian attack, though the objective of the attack was to incite sectarianism.

The triple attacks came immediately after two major incidents: shooting down of Iran spy drone and the release of more damning confessional statements of Indian naval commander Jadhav.

Investigators probe all possibilities. One of them is revenge operations inside Pakistan in retaliation to firm Pakistani action on two major developments linked to two neighboring countries that are working jointly on a common objective.

The triple Quetta-Parachinar-Karachi attacks successfully send the intended message to Islamabad:

1. Quetta: Balochistan will remain a target, CPEC will be destabilized.

2. Parachinar: stirring up sectarianism to siege Pakistani Government & law enforcement; whip up fresh social tensions.

3. Karachi: demoralize Law enforcement in Pakistan's largest city and economic hub.

The way buses of Pakistani Shia pilgrims and Pakistani Hazara were targeted by Jadhav's unit based in Iran (in collaboration with local Pakistani recruiters & facilitators) confirms the regional dimension of sectarian terrorism in Pakistan. Islamabad's successful elimination of key individuals and groups involved in sectarian terror was met by ratcheting up of this terror by Jadhav's Indian network based in Chabahar and facilitated by Iran.

The Pakistani State has eliminated Malik Ishaq, his sons, and three high profile LEJ terrorists in Balochistan and crippled their groups. But there is a concerted regional effort to corner the Pakistani State and blackmail it using proxies involved in terrorism and sectarianism. The timing of the triple attacks is definitely an aspect that investigators will likely probe.

While this is a triple attack, done together for a specific message to Pakistan, it is interesting how one attack of the three has been used to corner the Govt and law enforcement and increase sectarian tension in Pakistan. The triple attack was followed by organized disinformation that mixes with facts. The organized disinformation was so strong that even the educated segments of Pakistani population among fell prey to this disinfo without verification. We have internal extremists & facilitators and we have external psy-ops and we do have groups facilitating this disinformation and chaos.

The bottom line is that Pakistan will pay a price for actions such as the ones regarding Commander Jadhav and the spy drone. And this price has been communicated to Pakistan.