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"Ebullient Mickey Arthur has revived Pakistan" : Mike Atherton

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Gardening? While Trevor Bayliss reacted to the inevitable post-match questions about his future by saying, if removed prematurely from his job, he would spend a bit more time in his garden, Mickey Arthur looked like a man who would no more enjoy time in his than he would a period in solitary confinement.

The Pakistan coach is one of life’s optimists; an ebullient, engaging character who wears his heart on his sleeve and is immersed in his job. Bayliss is a man of few words, a coach who sits back, observes and interferes reluctantly; Arthur is a conversationalist, who loves nothing more than talking cricket and, at least where cricket teams are concerned, is an interventionist, a trait that has brought him grief as well as success.

A camera trained on both coaches during the Lord’s Test would have produced contrasting footage: Bayliss is from the Duncan Fletcher school of coaching, outwardly expressionless to the point where you do not know whether his team is winning or losing, playing well or badly; with Arthur there is no second-guessing required as his face reveals all. The joy of winning, the pain of losing; everything is etched on his features. Not so much Fletcher as David “Bumble” Lloyd.

Whether he was on his feet, clapping with unbridled enthusiasm when Babar Azam reached his half-century — Arthur has made some typically bullish predictions about Babar’s future as a Test batsman — or turning to a colleague with a “what the f***?” expression when his captain fell into a schoolboy trap on the point of tea, or waving frantically to get his players to change tack on the third evening when Jos Buttler and Dominic Bess began to exert control, one look at Arthur was all that was needed to know whose team was on top.

There is a clear sense, on his third international assignment, that Arthur has found his calling. It was a brave move to accept the role, given the constraints with which Pakistan must deal compared with better-funded international teams. The inability to play at home, the exaggerated public reaction that accompanies every victory or defeat and the historical chaos that has surrounded selection makes coaching Pakistan a unique challenge. You do not need to be reminded of Bob Woolmer, who died of a heart attack during the 2007 World Cup, to know the pressurised environment in which the coach of Pakistan operates.

Arthur has not shied away from the challenge — although, given the fall-out from his time with Australia, when he was sacked on the eve of the 2013 Ashes, there was probably no other route back into international coaching than taking the kind of job that others would not. Whether he saw the move as a stepping stone or not, he has not regretted it for one moment. “It is the most invigorating job I’ve ever had,” he told me the day before the Lord’s Test began.

Arthur now has intimate knowledge of three contrasting cricketing cultures, making him knowledgeable and interesting about international dressing rooms in general. He was with South Africa between 2005 and 2010 and found a team that wanted direction and structure from its coach. When he was in charge of Australia, he found the culture more driven by the players, a difference he struggled to recognise initially and one that played a part in his downfall after the so-called “homework-gate” fiasco.

Having learnt from his time with Australia, he was determined to adapt his own style to the needs of the Pakistan players but they have had to adapt to his demands, too, a balance so far that seems to be working. Pakistan certainly looked well drilled and prepared for last week’s first Test, and the Champions Trophy victory last summer was against the odds, and reflected both on the changes that Arthur has wrought as well as the flair and talent that continue to come out of Pakistan, despite the challenges.

“We’ve tried to minimise the chaos within the things we can control, like selection,” he told me. “The selection panel works well and it is a lot more stable and consistent. Before, players were in and out and inevitably they began to play for themselves because they were scared of getting dropped. So it became a ‘me’ environment rather than a team environment. This dressing room is the best I’ve ever been involved in. They are a wonderful bunch of guys. They have great values and the respect is huge. I find it an extremely stimulating environment.

“With Australia, I was guilty of coming in and not sitting back and watching for a time. I was guilty of thinking I could run things just like I had in South Africa. That got me into trouble a bit, and I’ve learnt from that. When I came into this job I sat back for a while before implementing changes.”

Not surprisingly, perhaps, given the past reputation of some subcontinental teams, much of this work has concentrated on fitness and fielding. “Things reached a crescendo in Sydney [in January 2017]. Our one-day players had come out to give us fresh legs, but they were overweight. I took them on to the outfield to do some shuttle runs and it was embarrassing. That reflected on us as a coaching staff and that was the tipping point.

“Since then, everyone has bought in. We now have fitness criteria. I don’t care who you are, if you don’t meet the criteria, you don’t play. We have fitness tests every month and guys must meet their minimum standards. We have hammered them on fielding and, while there is a way to go, we have seen a huge improvement. The players are enjoying the work. They are loving it.”

At the moment it seems a happy combination: a South African who believes in discipline and structure learning from the free-form way that Pakistan players approach the game, and players accepting that, as far as fitness and fielding are concerned, there are no shortcuts to excellence. Yesterday, in these pages, we heard from a coach, Stuart Lancaster, who has found redemption after a bruising time with England. After being defenestrated by Cricket Australia, Arthur is cricket’s equivalent.

The 2017 Champions Trophy brought similar redemption and, if victory over England in this Test series would struggle to top that, in cricketing terms it would be just as significant an achievement. Along with his support staff, including Steve Rixon, the former Australia wicketkeeper, Grant Flower, the former Zimbabwe batsman, and Azhar Mahmood, the former Pakistan bowler, their job is to maintain the team’s focus and discipline.

The aftermath of the Champions Trophy, and the joy that accompanies significant wins, should be motivation enough. “That was amazing,” Arthur says. “It still makes the hair stand up thinking of it. Those three weeks of the Champions Trophy were the best three weeks of my coaching career. The reaction was incredible. It took Babar Azam four and a half hours to get to his house because his car couldn’t move for the crowds. Sarfraz [Ahmed] had 15,000 outside his house singing. I still get stopped and thanked wherever I go. It is a very rewarding and invigorating job and I hope I can do it for a while because we’ve only just scratched the surface.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/ebullient-mickey-arthur-has-revived-pakistan-8n0btkxpf
 
The best coach we have had. He is also lucky to have the backing of team captain, coach and the cricket board. I feel that Sarfaraz’s role had been really important as a captain to ensure that Mickey Arthur’s rules are enforced and accepted.
 
Brilliant write-up.

Mickey has had his lows (some selections, run-ins with Sohail, U Akmal, etc), but his insistence on discipline and fitness is one of our greatest requirement, which is evidently reaping results.
 
Revived?? Gives the impression that Pak Cricket was on life support machine:fizz He has bought some consistency since being the coach. Long may it continue.
 
Fitness.
Attitude.
Mindset.
Kicking out unfit players.
Kicking out players with attitude.

Micky Arthur's legacy.
 
Our best coach by miles. i love the way he has dealt with unprofessionals like Akmal and Sohail. I mean turning up to aus overweight? wth?
 
Has made them a team in the 3 years till the 2019 WC.

Doubt it that he will extend his contract whatever the outcome of the 2019 WC would be.

Then it goes back to business as usual with players doing as they feel etc;
 
His good moments have outweighed the bad moments. But he has still blundered with the way he dealt with Umar Akmal and Wahab Riaz, should have integrated them into the system and team.
 
His good moments have outweighed the bad moments. But he has still blundered with the way he dealt with Umar Akmal and Wahab Riaz, should have integrated them into the system and team.

Umar Akmal failed two fitness tests before the CT and got deservedly sent on the first PIA flight back home. Also how can you select someone who is not scoring runs - he did zilch in PSL this season.

As for Wahab - he had a poor attitude in training and failed to reach the fitness standards.
 
Has made them a team in the 3 years till the 2019 WC.

Doubt it that he will extend his contract whatever the outcome of the 2019 WC would be.

Then it goes back to business as usual with players doing as they feel etc;

I really hope that the PCB lock him down for a 5-year contract. Even with the world cup approaching next year, I think the PCB should give him the 2023 WC as well. He deserves it.
 
I really hope that the PCB lock him down for a 5-year contract. Even with the world cup approaching next year, I think the PCB should give him the 2023 WC as well. He deserves it.

He said he will be leaving after the world cup so enjoy him while it lasts because Mohsin Khan is waiting ruin everything.
 
Umar Akmal failed two fitness tests before the CT and got deservedly sent on the first PIA flight back home. Also how can you select someone who is not scoring runs - he did zilch in PSL this season.

As for Wahab - he had a poor attitude in training and failed to reach the fitness standards.

It's not about selection, its about getting them up to standard behind the scenes and not giving up on them. Also I believe his public out burst against Wahab in public was immature and unbecoming and should man management problems.
 
It's not about selection, its about getting them up to standard behind the scenes and not giving up on them. Also I believe his public out burst against Wahab in public was immature and unbecoming and should man management problems.

He is getting the younger players up to standard.

The two players in question have been around the set-up for around a decade, why should Mickey have to spoon-feed them to come up to the required standard? If they have the desire, they can put in the hard yards themselves.

Anyway, I don't think Umar and Wahab should be grouped together. Wahab will probably be a part of the squad for upcoming Test series in UAE, or at least in contention. The other guy is nowhere to be seen.
 
His good moments have outweighed the bad moments. But he has still blundered with the way he dealt with Umar Akmal and Wahab Riaz, should have integrated them into the system and team.

Thats like saying Ant and Dec could be integrated in to the team.

Sometimes a player is either not good enough or just doesn't have the character to be in the team. End of.
 
He is getting the younger players up to standard.

The two players in question have been around the set-up for around a decade, why should Mickey have to spoon-feed them to come up to the required standard? If they have the desire, they can put in the hard yards themselves.

Anyway, I don't think Umar and Wahab should be grouped together. Wahab will probably be a part of the squad for upcoming Test series in UAE, or at least in contention. The other guy is nowhere to be seen.

A coach is like the father figure, he has to get the best players up to standard and into the team at the end of the day and therefore must have a vested interest in monitoring the players with the ultimate goal of getting them into the team and performing.
 
A coach is like the father figure, he has to get the best players up to standard and into the team at the end of the day and therefore must have a vested interest in monitoring the players with the ultimate goal of getting them into the team and performing.

He can only do so much, he can't be at Umar Akmal's side all day long ensuring that he doesn't eat biryanis and pakoras, or go out there and bat for him.

Umar Akmal can't even perform in domestic cricket, let him do that then let's see what happens. If he piles on the runs and turns his career around (and his attitude) then I'm sure the management will be willing to work on his poor aspects. As it stands, there is no upside to him at all. Everything is a negative.
 
It’s little easier when you are a big underdog. I want to see how his team is performing when either they are fav or slight underdog. When 3xpectation was high, they performed poorly in NZ.

One change I could easily see is the fielding, I woukd give it to him for that positive change.
 
He said he will be leaving after the world cup so enjoy him while it lasts because Mohsin Khan is waiting ruin everything.

I have not heard anything like this.

The last line of this article says otherwise:

I still get stopped and thanked wherever I go. It is a very rewarding and invigorating job and I hope I can do it for a while because we’ve only just scratched the surface.
 
Has made them a team in the 3 years till the 2019 WC.

Doubt it that he will extend his contract whatever the outcome of the 2019 WC would be.

Then it goes back to business as usual with players doing as they feel etc;

Why? The man keeps winning. Pakistan would be wise to keep him on as he very much seems to enjoy coaching here.
Mickey Arthur might be what we would love Pakistan to be-proud, joyful, energetic, yet also hard-working, structured, and disciplined.
 
His good moments have outweighed the bad moments. But he has still blundered with the way he dealt with Umar Akmal and Wahab Riaz, should have integrated them into the system and team.

Oh be quiet! These prima donnas should be nowhere near the team.
 
He said he will be leaving after the world cup so enjoy him while it lasts because Mohsin Khan is waiting ruin everything.

He has said nothing of the sort. His current contract expires after the WC, but there is nothing preventing an extension. Everything he says points to him wanting the job for longer. From the article alone:

“It is the most invigorating job I’ve ever had,” he told me the day before the Lord’s Test began.

"This dressing room is the best I’ve ever been involved in. They are a wonderful bunch of guys. They have great values and the respect is huge. I find it an extremely stimulating environment."

"It is a very rewarding and invigorating job and I hope I can do it for a while because we’ve only just scratched the surface."
 
I was absolutely overjoyed when we brought him in as a coach. He has done a fanastic job and I hope he continues to. Once he kicks out Hafeez and Malik out of the team and Azhar out of the ODI team he will be plauded has the best we've had. Maybe he's already is the greatest coach we've had
 
His good moments have outweighed the bad moments. But he has still blundered with the way he dealt with Umar Akmal and Wahab Riaz, should have integrated them into the system and team.

Umar Akmal? Seriously. The guy has been poor for a long time with a dreadful attitude. Its not just the national team, back room staff from Leicestershire will tell you what a tool he is.
 
good to have a real coach who actually cares about the team after our last one
 
If we do well at the World Cup next year, I'm sure he'll at least extend his contract till the WT20 in Australia the year after
 
His good moments have outweighed the bad moments. But he has still blundered with the way he dealt with Umar Akmal and Wahab Riaz, should have integrated them into the system and team.
Umar Akmal deserves no sympathy whatsoever. The guy lacks basic work ethic and has an awful attitude towards the game. Its not a coincidence that both coaches didnt want him in the side. He has been given way too many chance, a lot more than he deserved
 
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Umar Akmal has surely got the message. His rubbish of putting on weight after drinking a glass of water doesn't fool Mickey:inzi2. Only a Pak coach like Miandad or Inzi would accept such a stupid answer.
 
It's not about selection, its about getting them up to standard behind the scenes and not giving up on them. Also I believe his public out burst against Wahab in public was immature and unbecoming and should man management problems.

They're 30 years old. We have to not "give up" on people who don't want to do the work?

The blame for those players is only on those players. How many more terrible Umar Akmal did we need to watch before one gives up; and this is from some one who staunchly supported him.

If you're not buying into the system and aren't putting up numbers, then why is it the coaches fault?

Umar has not been a run maker for about what, 8 years? More?

Sport has a plethora of players who come in on fire because they are new and not figured out. Once he was figured out, he couldn't adopt, that is only Umar's fault/he wasn't all that great to begin with. I think it's a bit of both.

He had some talent, not as much as we once thought, he didn't work on it and is mediocrity personified.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Great to see Mike Atherton in Pakistan as part of the Sky Sports team who are making a documentary called Cornered Tiger - the return of cricket to Pakistan, which will be shown this summer <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1237808946603274241?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 11, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Well it turned out to be some revival..

It is incredible how so many people were fooled by Pakistan’s misleading patch in 2017-18, which was largely built on the Champions Trophy fluke and some minnow-bashing and cheap T20I wins.

The humiliating whitewash in New Zealand in the January 2018 ODI series was completely ignored, but it was all the evidence anyone needed that Pakistan had made zilch progress.

Nevertheless, the reality check starting with the Asia Cup in 2018 was brutal. We followed it up by losing the Test series to New Zealand in the UAE and then thrashed in South Africa.

The likes of Sarfraz, Fakhar, Hasan etc. never recovered from that humiliation.

Our heads were in the clouds and we were brought back to earth in merciless fashion.
 
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