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England have "gone backwards" as a team : Geoffrey Boycott

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Ex-England opener Geoffrey Boycott says the Test team have "gone backwards" and called their batting "rubbish" after another collapse against India.

India, who cut England's series lead to 2-1 with a 203-run win at Trent Bridge, had the hosts 86-6 on day one of the fourth Test at Southampton.

Sam Curran's 78 helped England to 246, before India reached 19-0.

Boycott told BBC Test Match Special: "It's not a solid batting line-up. You just don't have confidence."

After England chose to bat, Keaton Jennings suffered a horrendous fourth ball lbw dismissal in the third over. Root and Jonny Bairstow also fell cheaply.

"If you can't bat, you are always up against it," said Boycott, returning to the TMS commentary box after heart surgery. "You are climbing against the wind all the time."

England have made 100 or fewer at the loss of their fourth wicket in 32 of their past 63 innings, over the past three years.

They have gone 15 innings since last making 400, against Australia in Melbourne in December.

It needed a career-best from Curran - left out of the team at Trent Bridge - in a partnership of 81 with Moeen Ali, who made 40, to help them to 246.

"Cook's form is getting worse, not better; Jennings is not cutting it," Boycott said.

"We have dropped our young kid at four, Ollie Pope. We are no further forward in finding batsmen. The selectors would be better at county matches trying to find somebody.

"It's puzzling because they have a batting coach - I'm not just blaming [Mark] Ramprakash - but they have a head coach [Trevor Bayliss] who is supposed to be a batsman - he played for New South Wales. And you wonder what they are doing.

"Isn't it a poor reflection on county cricket's batsmen that a wicketkeeper/batsman has to bat four?"

Former England captain Michael Vaughan said number eight Curran, who has made 225 runs in his first five Test innings, is the "best technician" in the England side this summer.

"He looks naturally the best defensive player that England have had in this series," Vaughan said. "The rest of them still jab at the ball even in defence.

"Alastair Cook looked OK but he is a concern for me at the top of the order. I still don't think he looks in.

"When he is in quality form, it's the mind that plays so well and it has always been so strong. To see him deflect it to third slip, like fielding practice, I've not seen that from him.

"I don't think Joe Root wants to play at three, he wants to bat at four. If he continues to play with that head falling to one side, it doesn't matter where he is batting - he is going to get out."

Surrey all-rounder Curran, 20, in only his fourth Test, said: "I was disappointed to miss out on the last Test but you can't drop someone who has got a hundred [Chris Woakes].

"I saw it as a positive and luckily I'm back in the team."

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/45363170
 
Jennings is not a Test batsman at the moment.

If England don't have better openers than him, then they have serious problems.
 
English batsmen are tooo scared now... They not playing their natural game.. they will loose this test as well the next one
 
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Jennings is not justifying his place. Averaging 17.57 in 2018. Cook's form is not helping either. Averaging 19 from 9 tests.
 
i think both jennings and cook are going to hit big centuries in the 2nd innings of this test
 
England are actually rubbish now.

India will be kicking themselves if they don’t win the series 3-2.

Given the complete disarray of the England XI and the number of out-of-form / injured / not good enough / past-it batters, even 2-2 would be a disappointment for India in my opinion.
 
England are actually rubbish now.

India will be kicking themselves if they don’t win the series 3-2.

Given the complete disarray of the England XI and the number of out-of-form / injured / not good enough / past-it batters, even 2-2 would be a disappointment for India in my opinion.

In normal circumstances, yes. But when you are missing two of your best bowlers and losing every single toss, I guess most Indians would take a 2-2 and be satisfied with another moral victory.
 
I agree with above.

Its not that Indian batsmen are in any better form than their English counterparts, except Kohli of course. On top of that, they lost their 2 best pacers for English conditions for better part of this series. And on top of that, Kohli has called incorrectly every time he walked out for toss with Root.

Add to that hardly any meaningful practice before the first test completes their set of bad fortune.
 
England are actually rubbish now.

India will be kicking themselves if they don’t win the series 3-2.

Given the complete disarray of the England XI and the number of out-of-form / injured / not good enough / past-it batters, even 2-2 would be a disappointment for India in my opinion.
You have to remember India was without their two best pacer Bhuvi and Bumraah in first two test match in these seaming conditions, it is like England playing without Jimmy and Broad.
See how Bumraah straightaway made the difference from third test. Above all we have also lost the toss in every match.
 
Jennings is not a Test batsman at the moment.

If England don't have better openers than him, then they have serious problems.

The Fact cooks on his last legs as well, means they need two openers really.
 
England currently dont have a decent opening Pair.

Their best batsmen Joe root is flattering to deceive.

Then you have Bairstow, Stokes, Buttler Moeen etc.. who are all good players suited to a number 6/7 batting position in the side.

England havent replaced players like KP, Bell etc.. in middle order and the top 4 is a mess. No matter how good players are coming in at 5/6/7 etc.. if you always 43/4 60/4 etc.. 9 times out 10 your teams going to get bowled out cheaply.

With such a large pool of players playing country cricket its a shock decent batsmen to play in englands top order cant be found.
 
You have to remember India was without their two best pacer Bhuvi and Bumraah in first two test match in these seaming conditions, it is like England playing without Jimmy and Broad.
See how Bumraah straightaway made the difference from third test. Above all we have also lost the toss in every match.

Missing two seamers is fine as an excuse, blaming the toss on defeats it pretty poor to be honest. India had chances in both 1st two tests to win match and failed to take them.
 
I agree with above.

Its not that Indian batsmen are in any better form than their English counterparts, except Kohli of course. On top of that, they lost their 2 best pacers for English conditions for better part of this series. And on top of that, Kohli has called incorrectly every time he walked out for toss with Root.

Add to that hardly any meaningful practice before the first test completes their set of bad fortune.

Any more excuses?

ECB used a rain/cloud making machine during 1st two tests.
Root used a double headed coin to win the toss.
I guess being here for the ODI/T20 series (yes different format) they must have been different conditions in the UK to what they are now!
 
Their test batting is in a mess and, their selectors are trynna behave like PCB.

1.????
2.????
3.Cook (move him down)
4.Root (fit at 4)
5. Bairstow (take gloves off him and, give him responsiblilty to bat long, rather than striking at 80)
6.Stokes
7.Buttler (wk)
8.Curran
9.Woakes
10.Broad
11.Anderson

No point playing Rashid(as a genuine fielder)
 
However these 'excuses' are nothing as to what are coined by SENA teams visiting Indian shores...
 
Missing two seamers is fine as an excuse, blaming the toss on defeats it pretty poor to be honest. India had chances in both 1st two tests to win match and failed to take them.

You are right, toss should not be used as a excuse but I added them along side missing bowlers, I never meant it as a main cause.
I will correct myself and will say that missing Bhuvi and Bumraah was big loss.
 
You are right, toss should not be used as a excuse but I added them along side missing bowlers, I never meant it as a main cause.
I will correct myself and will say that missing Bhuvi and Bumraah was big loss.

The main cause for 1st two tests was Firstly poor batting and then the fact they let england get away from being 87/7 in one test. It was always going to be a long tour and this is where indias bench strength in bowling is tested.

The main question was how bad are england on the thread and they have been poor for a while, just one the whole most touring teams have struggled more then england and thus england have won test matches.
 
When England win tests usually it's through an individuals brilliance. They are a poor test team.
 
England are actually rubbish now.

India will be kicking themselves if they don’t win the series 3-2.

Given the complete disarray of the England XI and the number of out-of-form / injured / not good enough / past-it batters, even 2-2 would be a disappointment for India in my opinion.
England aren’t rubbish. You don’t annihilate teams like India like they did in the 2nd test if you are rubbish. England’s main issue is that the top four, which are the most important members of the line-up in a five day game, are scoring next to nothing for ages now. The likes of Jennings getting selected consistently is cause for concern.
 
England are ahead both in the series and this game..
 
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