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Pakistan shortlist 17 players for England T20Is

Southampton, 21 August 2020:

Teenage pace sensation Naseem Shah was amongst 17 players Pakistan shortlisted for the three T20Is against England.

The Babar Azam-led team will play Eoin Morgan’s England at Old Trafford, Manchester, from 28 August to 1 September.

Pakistan squad for England T20Is: Babar Azam (c), Fakhar Zaman, Haider Ali, Haris Rauf, Iftikhar Ahmed, Imad Wasim, Khushdil Shah, Mohammad Hafeez, Mohammad Hasnain, Mohammad Rizwan, Mohammad Amir, Naseem Shah, Sarfaraz Ahmed, Shadab Khan, Shaheen Shah Afridi, Shoaib Malik and Wahab Riaz.

Pakistan Head Coach and Chief Selector Misbah-ul-Haq: “This is mostly the same team which has been featuring in the shortest format for us. Besides retaining the core, we have inducted youngsters like Haider Ali, who has performed well in the HBL PSL, U19 and first-class cricket, and Naseem Shah as we had an opportunity to keep a bigger pool due to Covid-19 pandemic, which also increases our options. Our two experienced bowlers in Mohammad Amir and Wahab Riaz have also returned to the side, along with Fakhar Zaman and Sarfaraz Ahmed.

“Usually, the T20I team comes together for a brief period but due to the current situation most of the players have been here with us for more than a month and it has provided us a good opportunity to work on the development of the team and the young players. So, even the players who might not get an opportunity to play will benefit from the experience they are getting here.

“It is going to be a competitive series as England are a strong side. We are looking forward to play good cricket and win the series.”
 
Good news for Haider - getting closer to a debut now.
 
Hope Shadab plays at top 5. He has proven himself in PSL. Fakhar the hack still gets a place, i would rather have Imam ul Haq in T20 in place of him

Lets see what Haris Rauf could do here
 
Will saifi merit playing time ahead of rizwan.

Will both Hafeez and malik continue to take spot up in the middle

How are we shaping our t20 team ahead of b2b world cups. Looks like a real Russe for places atm.

My preferred team for the world cup would ideally totally different looking at current form I see a core of batting from these players

Babar will be relied on heavily upon
Safraz
Rizwan
Fakhar can’t be hit and miss
Imad
Haider Ali needs to transfer domestic from to international

Shadab only t20 type batsmen we have

In dire need of new young blood 🩸 ... too many serial offenders are around.
 
My preferred team for the world cup would ideally totally different looking at current form I see a core of batting from these players

Babar will be relied on heavily upon
Safraz
Rizwan
Fakhar can’t be hit and miss
Imad
Haider Ali needs to transfer domestic from to international


In dire need of new young blood �� ... too many serial offenders are around.
Which form?
 
Hope Shadab plays at top 5. He has proven himself in PSL. Fakhar the hack still gets a place, i would rather have Imam ul Haq in T20 in place of him

Lets see what Haris Rauf could do here



Why did you remove Misbah pucture from your dp. It was so easy to identify what you were going to say. Asking for Shadab and Imam ul Haq in T20.
 
Why did you remove Misbah pucture from your dp. It was so easy to identify what you were going to say. Asking for Shadab and Imam ul Haq in T20.

you havent been watching the psl looks like
 
A little surprised they went with Wahab over Faheem, but really shouldn't be given Wahab's seniority.

Bowling attack should be some combination of Husnain, Amir, Shaheen, Rauf, Shadab, Imad and Hafeez.
Wahab will look good on the bench.
 
Rizwan doesn't merit a t20 spot ahead of Bismillah khan.


Wahab is there only because of Friendship of Misbah
 
T20 is a young players game and should be used to scout out talented players and give them a flavour of international cricket and see how they adapt. This is what teams use T20Is for all over the world. Except Pakistan we are continuing to keep has-been players like Malik, Hafeez, Sarfraz and Wahab in the squad.
 
Can't wait to see the superstars Hafeez, Shoaib Malik, Ifti and Wahab Riaz trotting out.
 
Seeing 40-year-olds, mediocre players like Hafeez and Malik in every T20 squad is so disappointing. Now you can add the 35-year-old has been Wahab to that list as well
 
T20 is a young players game and should be used to scout out talented players and give them a flavour of international cricket and see how they adapt. This is what teams use T20Is for all over the world. Except Pakistan we are continuing to keep has-been players like Malik, Hafeez, Sarfraz and Wahab in the squad.

I was of the same opinion, but we all saw the way we lost to sri lanka when we didnt have experience. Pakistan will need to play malika and hafeez in t20 cricket. Experience does matter here
 
It is the worst squad among top 8 cricketing nations. Thank you Misbah.

You kidding?

This squad can potentially field the following team:

1. Babar Azam (c)
2. Haider Ali
3. Shadab Khan
4. Iftikhar Ahmed
5. Khushdil Shah
6. Sarfaraz Ahmed (wk)
7. Imad Wasim
8. Wahab Riaz
9. Mohammad Amir
10. Haris Rauf
11. Shaheen Afridi

The squad is fantastic, the real issue will be the playing XI if Hafeez, Malik, and Fakhar play! Otherwise the squad has an excellent combination of XI mostly young players.
 
You kidding?

This squad can potentially field the following team:

1. Babar Azam (c)
2. Haider Ali
3. Shadab Khan
4. Iftikhar Ahmed
5. Khushdil Shah
6. Sarfaraz Ahmed (wk)
7. Imad Wasim
8. Wahab Riaz
9. Mohammad Amir
10. Haris Rauf
11. Shaheen Afridi

The squad is fantastic, the real issue will be the playing XI if Hafeez, Malik, and Fakhar play! Otherwise the squad has an excellent combination of XI mostly young players.

The lineup you posted is the best that can be extracted from this squad (apart from Fakhar 's exclusion) but we all know what sort of lineup Misbah will field.

T20 is a batsman's game and there are only 3 batsmen in the current squad that deserve to be selected.

Babar
Haider
Fakhar.

The rest are all trash and will be horribly exposed in upcoming series. I repeat again, this is the worst T20 squad among top 8 playing nations.
 
I was of the same opinion, but we all saw the way we lost to sri lanka when we didnt have experience. Pakistan will need to play malika and hafeez in t20 cricket. Experience does matter here

i don't agree tell me 1 batsman that made debut none.

you lost because of Ahmed Shehzad and Umar Almal.

had it been khushdil and any other young batsman their 20-30 runs would have even done the job.
 
The batting besides Babar is pretty awful. This team will not chase any score without Babar getting big runs.
 
Babar is the most reliable T20 batsman in the world which allows to insert ultra aggressive batsmen around him. A top 7 of

Sharjeel
Babar
Zeeshan Malik
Haider Ali
Shadab/Iftikhar
Zeeshan Ashraf
Imad

will give us a chance at T20 world cup in Aus but misbah's lineup will most certainly be knocked out in first round.
 
Did they really need to keep 17 players for 3 t20s??
They could have at least let Shaheen go back for rest, he has had enough workload, especially now that we dont have a world cup this year.
 
Shan showed he can clear the boundary during that long test innings so he's probably got a pretty good point.

I also note he's one of the only legit captaincy candidates that we have, so we should really be getting him into our teams wherever possible.
 
Shan showed he can clear the boundary during that long test innings so he's probably got a pretty good point.

I also note he's one of the only legit captaincy candidates that we have, so we should really be getting him into our teams wherever possible.

Yep i think Shan is a definite candidate for all 3 formats. Sohail Akhtar was one i liked as a potential opener but i think for a no. 4 i would've liked Umar Amin who i feel has been pushed aside.
 
Shan did really well in the PSL. But that was PSL...I'm a huge Shan fan but he should not be playing T20's for Pakistan. His game is just not made for it. He can stick to franchise cricket.

I would like to see him play ODI's though. I think he would do well there. He is really good with stealing singles & his running between the wickets is excellent. Once he is set, he can smash the ball around as well like we saw in the PSL.
 
My XI:
Babar
Fakhar
Haider
Shadab
Hafeez
Iftikhar
Khushdil
Imad
Amir
Shaheen
Rauf

12th man: Hasnain
 
You kidding?

This squad can potentially field the following team:

1. Babar Azam (c)
2. Haider Ali
3. Shadab Khan
4. Iftikhar Ahmed
5. Khushdil Shah
6. Sarfaraz Ahmed (wk)
7. Imad Wasim
8. Wahab Riaz
9. Mohammad Amir
10. Haris Rauf
11. Shaheen Afridi

The squad is fantastic, the real issue will be the playing XI if Hafeez, Malik, and Fakhar play! Otherwise the squad has an excellent combination of XI mostly young players.

With misbah the old and senior lover will make sure the seniors are unmoved.

He was good in his first series by dropping Hafeez and Malik but at the same time gave chances to shehzad and u.akmal which are appalling. Where pak ended losing the series 3-0 to a second string lanka side at their home despite being the number 1 t20 for a year. From there onwards it was clear he is not cut for the job but yet he continues to do the job.

From this sqaud and with his lover for seniors i feel Haider wouldnt get a chance.

The 11 probably would be

Babar
Fakhar
Hafeez
Malik
Ifthikar
Rizwan
Imad
Shadab
Amir
Wahab
SSA
 
Expected squad hoping Haider gets a game.
Fakhar
Babar
Haider
Hafeez
Shadab
Rizwan
Imad
Wahab
Amir
Hasnain
Haris
 
01. Fakhar Zaman
02. Mohammad Rizwan
03. Babar Azam (c)
04. Haider Ali
05. Iftikhar Ahmad
06. Khushdil Shah
07. Shadab Khan
08. Imad Wasim
09. Mohammad Amir
10. Mohammad Hasnain
11. Haris Rouf

Rizwan should be tried as an opener else is useless down the order like Sarfaraz.

To manage workload, Shaheen and Naseem should be rested.

Hafeez and Malik should retire now.
 
No surprises here

Can't wait to see hasnain and rauf bowl
Also fakhar, haider and khushdil and even malik will be a sight for sore eyes

I think one of the matches are being televised terrestrially so watch this space
 
Shan showed he can clear the boundary during that long test innings so he's probably got a pretty good point.

I also note he's one of the only legit captaincy candidates that we have, so we should really be getting him into our teams wherever possible.
Rizwan.
Has been captaining the A side for sometime now and probably the only player who fights and shows some character.
 
01. Fakhar Zaman
02. Mohammad Rizwan
03. Babar Azam (c)
04. Haider Ali
05. Iftikhar Ahmad
06. Khushdil Shah
07. Shadab Khan
08. Imad Wasim
09. Mohammad Amir
10. Mohammad Hasnain
11. Haris Rouf

Rizwan should be tried as an opener else is useless down the order like Sarfaraz.

To manage workload, Shaheen and Naseem should be rested.

Hafeez and Malik should retire now.

Babar is the best opener in T20 cricket, why would you ever want to move him down. He's the catalyst for this batting line up
I'd rather Rizwan play at 3, with Khushdil and Ifti lower down the order

Unfortunately, have to find a place to play 'seniors' Malik and Hafeez
 
Pakistan shortlist 17 players for England T20Is

Southampton, 21 August 2020:

Teenage pace sensation Naseem Shah was amongst 17 players Pakistan shortlisted for the three T20Is against England.

The Babar Azam-led team will play Eoin Morgan’s England at Old Trafford, Manchester, from 28 August to 1 September.

Pakistan squad for England T20Is: Babar Azam (c), Fakhar Zaman, Haider Ali, Haris Rauf, Iftikhar Ahmed, Imad Wasim, Khushdil Shah, Mohammad Hafeez, Mohammad Hasnain, Mohammad Rizwan, Mohammad Amir, Naseem Shah, Sarfaraz Ahmed, Shadab Khan, Shaheen Shah Afridi, Shoaib Malik and Wahab Riaz.

Pakistan Head Coach and Chief Selector Misbah-ul-Haq: “This is mostly the same team which has been featuring in the shortest format for us. Besides retaining the core, we have inducted youngsters like Haider Ali, who has performed well in the HBL PSL, U19 and first-class cricket, and Naseem Shah as we had an opportunity to keep a bigger pool due to Covid-19 pandemic, which also increases our options. Our two experienced bowlers in Mohammad Amir and Wahab Riaz have also returned to the side, along with Fakhar Zaman and Sarfaraz Ahmed.

“Usually, the T20I team comes together for a brief period but due to the current situation most of the players have been here with us for more than a month and it has provided us a good opportunity to work on the development of the team and the young players. So, even the players who might not get an opportunity to play will benefit from the experience they are getting here.

“It is going to be a competitive series as England are a strong side. We are looking forward to play good cricket and win the series.”

Both Mohammad Rizwan and Sarfraz Ahmed are not T20 players. Pakistan should select Bismillah Khan as T20 WK
 
Sharjeel Khan and Bismillah Khan are 2 players who should be in squad on merit.
 
Babar
Fakhar
Sarfraz
Haider
Khushdil
Iftikhar
Imad
Shadab
Wahab
Amir
Rauf/Hasnain

No need for Shaheen and Naseem give them a well deserved rest after playing 3 tests back to back.
 
Hope Shadab plays at top 5. He has proven himself in PSL. Fakhar the hack still gets a place, i would rather have Imam ul Haq in T20 in place of him

Lets see what Haris Rauf could do here
It seems like you havent been watching Shadab Khan all laughters in the dug out in the current test match. Disgraceful really when the team is on the verge of an innings defeat.

I would kick out Shadab, the wanna be super star.
 
Good news for Haider - getting closer to a debut now.

It's going to be really hard for Haider to squeeze into the XI when we know Hafeez and Malik will be guaranteed two spots.

Sad state of affairs when batting talent is so sparse in Pakistan and yet even when we find someone worthy of playing we find the 38/39 year old 'seniors' are still there.
 
It's going to be really hard for Haider to squeeze into the XI when we know Hafeez and Malik will be guaranteed two spots.

Sad state of affairs when batting talent is so sparse in Pakistan and yet even when we find someone worthy of playing we find the 38/39 year old 'seniors' are still there.

We struggled to defeat 2nd String Sri Lanka at home without Malik and Hafeez.

Probably would have lost to Bangladesh as well
 
1.Babar Azam
2.Fakhar Zaman
3.Haidar Ali
4.Mohammad Hafeez
5.Mohammad Rizwan
6.Shadab Khan
7.Imad Wasim
8.Haris Rauf
9.Mohammad Amir
10.Shaheen Afridi
11.Wahab Riaz
 
It seems like you havent been watching Shadab Khan all laughters in the dug out in the current test match. Disgraceful really when the team is on the verge of an innings defeat.

I would kick out Shadab, the wanna be super star.

so he can't laugh?

he should sit their and cry for the cameras?

Why do you guys have problem with people who act natural. WHat difference would it make him sitting in the dugout with tears in his eyes?
 
My 11:

1.Babar Azam
2.Fakhar Zaman
3.Haidar Ali
4.Khushdil Shah
5.Mohammad Rizwan
6.Shoaib Malik
7.Shadab Khan
8.Imad Wasim
9.Mohammad Amir
10.Shaheen Afridi
11.Mohammad Hasnain

Misbah 11:

1.Babar Azam
2.Fakhar Zaman
3.Mohammad Hafeez
4.Iftikhar Ahmed
5.Sarfaraz Ahmed
6.Shoaib Malik
7.Shadab Khan
8.Imad Wasim
9.Mohammad Amir
10.Naseem Shah
11.Wahab Riaz
 
Am I missing something about Bismillah Khan? Averages 21 in T20s and didn't even play PSL at all this year. I'd much rather stick with Rizwan
 
He’s not the best opener in the world. He’s a compiler who is given runs. He’s nowhere near as dangerous as at least 10 openers
 
Both Mohammad Rizwan and Sarfraz Ahmed are not T20 players. Pakistan should select Bismillah Khan as T20 WK

Every team has 2-3 traditional batsmen even in the T20 team. Rizwan and Babar can play that role for Pakistan, Babar to stabilize the top order and Rizwan for the middle order.

The problem is PCT have to forcefully find positions for 'seniors' Hafeez and Malik, which means you have 4+ accumulators. Thats the real issue. Get rid of Hafeez and Malik, then surround Babar and Rizwan with stroke makers and power hitters. Batting lineup looks a lot better then
 
No need for Shaheen and Naseem give them a well deserved rest after playing 3 tests back to back.

Those 2 should have been sent back home after the Tests. They must be mentally exhausted, having been in the bubble for 3 months now.

I don't even understand why they were selected. Especially when you have fresh bowlers like Amir, Husnain, Rauf, Wahab, Faheem around.
 
With the test series almost over, the time is almost upon us for the main event. The T20s will separate the men from the boys.
 
so he can't laugh?

he should sit their and cry for the cameras?

Why do you guys have problem with people who act natural. WHat difference would it make him sitting in the dugout with tears in his eyes?

If he sat straight faced, he'd call Shadab timid and gutless.
 
Like tests, will be skipping the T20 tour gladly. Thank You Misbah for not choosing Sharjeel and picking up Malik and Hafeez. However would be visiting the site regularly to see the plight of the remaining Pakistan cricket fans .
 
An average squad. I really don't see us challenging top teams or doing well in LO with Misbah as coach and selector.

Just look at how horrible we were under him in LO. We did compete in certain series and win games but the overall style of play and development of players was awful.
 
My 11:

1.Babar Azam
2.Fakhar Zaman
3.Haidar Ali
4.Khushdil Shah
5.Mohammad Rizwan
6.Shoaib Malik
7.Shadab Khan
8.Imad Wasim
9.Mohammad Amir
10.Shaheen Afridi
11.Mohammad Hasnain

Misbah 11:

1.Babar Azam
2.Fakhar Zaman
3.Mohammad Hafeez
4.Iftikhar Ahmed
5.Sarfaraz Ahmed
6.Shoaib Malik
7.Shadab Khan
8.Imad Wasim
9.Mohammad Amir
10.Naseem Shah
11.Wahab Riaz

What about Haris Rauf?
 
My 11:

1.fakhar
2.babar
3.haider ali
4.rizwan
5.khushdil
6.iftikhar
7.shadab
8.imad
9.amir
10.shaheen
11.rauf
 
I havent followed the t20 squad announcement. Are you telling me Hafeez and Malik are still there? Unbelievable. These two relics need to be in the museum, not on the cricket field.
 
I havent followed the t20 squad announcement. Are you telling me Hafeez and Malik are still there? Unbelievable. These two relics need to be in the museum, not on the cricket field.

Yes still thier fit as a mo Farah
 
Okay, Rauf for Afridi? I'd like to give a Hasnain a game. Perhaps some rotation given there's three games.

Amir can open the bowling but who's ganna open from the other side dont rauf and husnain come in the middle overs or just after 5 overs ?
 
With the test series almost over, the time is almost upon us for the main event. The T20s will separate the men from the boys.

Pakistan should win 2-1 or 3 nil especially now they missing half the squad
 
An average squad. I really don't see us challenging top teams or doing well in LO with Misbah as coach and selector.

Just look at how horrible we were under him in LO. We did compete in certain series and win games but the overall style of play and development of players was awful.

Who would you replace and which players would you drop
 
Shan showed he can clear the boundary during that long test innings so he's probably got a pretty good point.

I also note he's one of the only legit captaincy candidates that we have, so we should really be getting him into our teams wherever possible.

But we cant have babar and shan oppening they play in similar manner
 
All eyes on the Test retirees Mohammad Amir and Wahab Riaz to do something special now.
 
I wish it were a 3 ODI series instead of 3 Cartoon matches. Would have been so much better.
 
My eleven ...
Babar
Fakhar
Iftikhar
Malik
shadab
Haider
Imad
Rizwan
Wahab
Amir
Rauf

Shaheen, Naseem rested.
Others: Hasnain, sarfraz, Khushdil Shah and Hafeez
 
As T20 Wc is little bit away i wish Pak Eng could play atleast 3 ODIS and 2 T20Is.....instead.....looking forward to Fakhar Haidar Shadab Rauf and ofcourse Bobby..... I think bowling is little light given Saheen Naseem won't b played and Amir Wahab are all coming after a break
 
My playing eleven...
Fakhar Zaman
Babar Azam
Hyder Ali
Shadab khan
Khushdil Shah
Sarfaraz Ahmad( no other choice)
Imaad Wasim
Fahim Ashraf
Shaheenshah
Haris Rauf
Hasnain

.... But unfortunately misbah's playing eleven will be this..
Fakhar Zaman
Babar Azam
Mohd Hafeez
Shoib Malik
Sarfaraz Ahmad
Iftikhar Ahmad
Shadab khan
Imaad Wasim
Fahim Ashraf
Wahab Riyaz
Mohammad Amir
 
I wish it were a 3 ODI series instead of 3 Cartoon matches. Would have been so much better.

FTP was designed keeping World T20 in mind which was gonna happen later this year. Could it have been changed once ICC knew World T20 isn’t happening, i cant say for sure as number of things are involved including broadcasters, logistics etc.
 
I would play 4 fast bowlers here
Wahab
Hasnain
Amir
Haris
I hope they don't play that mediocre hack iftikhar chacha
 
Fakhar
Babar
Haider
Malik
Shadab
Khushdil/ Iftikhar
Rizwan
Imad
Amir
Shaheen/ Wahab (Considering Shaheen’s fitness post tests)
Haris Rauf/ Mohammad Hasnain

If 4 pacers are required, Faheem can play over Khushdil and get moved to no 8. That can give 6 bowling options which can come in handy considering Pak’s spin bowling form.

This is what I think but, I wont be surprised if Hafeez plays over Khushdil/ Ifti considering his performances against BD in T20s.
 
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Haider should play all 3 matches in my opinion so only one of Malik and Hafeez can play as you also wanna keep atleast one of Khushdil and Iftikhar as these two are probably the best hitter of the ball lower down the order.
 
Both sides are evenly matched. It is 50-50.

Even though England are resting some main players, they still have Morgan, Billings, Roy, Moeen, Bairstow, and Adil.
 
My 11:

1.fakhar
2.babar
3.haider ali
4.rizwan
5.khushdil
6.iftikhar
7.shadab
8.imad
9.amir
10.shaheen
11.rauf

That's my XI too with Iftikhar and Khushdil swapped. However I know Misbah will shoehorn at least one of Hafeez or Malik.
 
Pakistan squad arrives in Manchester.

Shan Masood released from the squad.

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It's 2020 and MoHa and ShoMa are still playing international cricket for Pakistan. :)

Are there anyone currently in world cricket who have made their debuts before these two and are still playing ?

Jimmy Anderson maybe ?
 
It's 2020 and MoHa and ShoMa are still playing international cricket for Pakistan. :)

Are there anyone currently in world cricket who have made their debuts before these two and are still playing ?

Jimmy Anderson maybe ?

Malik debuted in 1999 - Anderson in 2002 :afridi
 
Pakistan have a great chance of winning this series and getting something positive out of this tour.
 
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