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Brilliant fightback from Pakistan, but unfortunately we ended on the losing side. Some key players were missing yet we took the game to the last over was a big positive.

Few changes can improve this side even more.

Imam Ul Haq dosen't fit into the modern game, and this also allows Babar to open.

Asif Ali deserves more chances.

Faheem and Yasir don't deserve to play anymore.

M Hafeez could balance this side greatly.


My XI:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Babar Azam
3) Haris Sohail
4) Sarfraz Ahmed
5) Mohammad Hafeez
6) Asif Ali
7) Imad Wasim
8) Mohammad Amir
9) Hasan Ali
10) Shaheen Afridi
11) Junaid Khan
 
I know this team lacks batting depth, but atleast the bowling looks potent and should restrict opposition to lower totals.

We lacked death bowlers today and Amir, to some extent Junaid can fill that gap.
 
Pumped up for this one!

My XI:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Babar Azam
3) Haris Sohail
4) Asif Ali
5) Sarfraz Ahmad C
6) M Hafeez
7) Imad Wasim
8) M Amir
9) Hasan Ali
10) M Hasnain
11) Junaid Khan

Shaheen needs rest imo.

Faheem and Yasir should be on the plane to Pakistan.

Also I feel Asif Ali is more suited to number four in ODIs where he doesn’t have much pressure on himself.
 
Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz
Hafeez
Asif
Imad
Hasan
Shaheen
Junaid (need to see which one of Amir/Faheem/Junaid is actually worth keeping)
 
My XI

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Babar Azam
3. Haris Sohail
4. Sarfraz Ahmed
5. Mohammad Hafeez
6. Abid Ali
7. Imad Wasim
8. Mohammad Amir
9. Hasan Ali
10. Junaid Khan
11. Shaheen Shah Afridi / Mohammad Hasnain

I would rest Shaheen cause I wanna see what Junaid and Hasnain got
 
1. Fakhar
2. Abid
3. Babar
4. Haris
5. Hafeez
6. Asif
7. Sarfaraz
8. Imad
9 Hasnain
10. Amir
11. Junaid

My playing 11 for 3rd ODI
 
I'll be content if the management grows a pair drops Imam and lets Babar open. The way Babar bats in the PP in T20I's if both Babar and Fakhar fire in the PP we could be looking at a 80+ score in the first 10!
 
@;Yasir out Amir in
Faheem out Malik in
Try Abid in place of Imam maybe
 
My XI:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Babar Azam
3) Haris Sohail
4) Asif Ali
5) Sarfraz Ahmad C
6) M Hafeez
7) S. Malik
8) M Amir
9) Hasan Ali
10) M Hasnain
11) Junaid Khan
 
Pakistan coach Mickey Arthur said neither he nor his bowlers has an idea of how to stop Jos Buttler, after the England wicket-keeper bastman struck a blistering 55-ball 110* on Saturday, 11 May.

Buttler is fast establishing himself as one of the best players to have represented England in limited-overs cricket. He holds five of the ten fastest hundreds for his country, the latest of which came in the second one-day international against Pakistan in Southampton.

Buttler whacked six fours and nine sixes in the span of just 66 minutes, and propelled England to 373/3 in their 50 overs. Pakistan's batsmen responded encouragingly, taking their team within 12 runs of England's total, but Buttler's knock ultimately trumped all else.

It left Pakistan coach Mickey Arthur at a loss to explain how Buttler was to be contained. "I don't know how you bowl to him," he said. "I've just asked the bowlers the same thing and they didn't have an answer either. But I don't think we're going to stop him, so we've got to try to get him out."

England captain Eoin Morgan, who revelled in an unbeaten 162-run stand with Buttler, was effusive in his praise for his team-mate, calling him the difference between the two sides.

"He seems to have a gear that not many of us have. I certainly don't have it, but it's great to watch," Morgan said. "He always seems to time his run really well, regardless of what time he comes in, he always seems to have enough balls to go on and bang a 50-ball hundred. He was brilliant and the difference in the two teams."

Buttler himself put his success down to maturing with time. "I'm maturing age-wise as well," he told Sky Sports. "I've learned a lot about myself and what works for me. I just think I've had some great experiences in the last few years, which you can always use [in any given situation]."


https://www.cricketworldcup.com/news/1214919
 
Yasir must be dropped for good, bring in Amir (or even Hasnain). Abid also needs to be given a chance, especially because Imam completely lacks the ability to have a strike rate beyond 80.

Fakhar
Abid
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz+*
Asif
Imad
Faheem
Hasan
Amir
Shaheen
 
I hope Jofra comes back as England look toothless without him. Maybe Wood too.
 
Arsalan Pro said:
Brilliant fightback from Pakistan, but unfortunately we ended on the losing side. Some key players were missing yet we took the game to the last over was a big positive.

Few changes can improve this side even more.

Imam Ul Haq dosen't fit into the modern game, and this also allows Babar to open.

Asif Ali deserves more chances.

Faheem and Yasir don't deserve to play anymore.

M Hafeez could balance this side greatly.


My XI:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Babar Azam
3) Haris Sohail
4) Sarfraz Ahmed
5) Mohammad Hafeez
6) Asif Ali
7) Imad Wasim
8) Mohammad Amir
9) Hasan Ali
10) Shaheen Afridi
11) Junaid Khan
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100% Agree with this selection and reasoning. Well put.
 
I would play Amir, Junaid and Hasnain in place of Shaheen, Faheem and Yasir.

Keep the same batting line-up. Malik, Hafeez and Abid can play the last two games.
 
My Playing X1 For 3rd ODI

Fakhar Zaman
Sarfraz Ahmed(wk)
Babar Azam
Shoaib Malik
Mohammad Hafeez
Asif Ali
Imad Wasim
Hassan Ali
Mohammad Amir
Junaid Khan
Mohammad Hasnain
 
Keep backing the selection of imam, Fahim, Yasir, Malik and Asif (One off performance) you will see same performance of different players again and again.
May be tomorrow we will see Morgan or Root in same slaughtering mood.
 
Babar has to play faster than being selfish so as Imam otherwise we will loose next 3 matches as well.
 
Don't write off Imam yet, he is very consistent but definitely needs to increase his SR and so does Babar Azam - even though Azam made 52 off 51 but with only 1 four, we know hr can hit boundaries.

Good to see Asif Ali and Fakhar Zaman in some form.

Faheem and Imad both disappointing, atleast Imad bowled decently.

Sarfraz played decently compared to his last few innings, should have played faster i agree but good cameo. Of course was not enough.

Good fight boys, we need better bowling and more wickets.
 
Imam and Yasir are pure weak links. Imam can be asset if he starts hitting some boundaries and get his strike rate to 85 at least.
 
Arsalan Pro said:
Brilliant fightback from Pakistan, but unfortunately we ended on the losing side. Some key players were missing yet we took the game to the last over was a big positive.

Few changes can improve this side even more.

Imam Ul Haq dosen't fit into the modern game, and this also allows Babar to open.

Asif Ali deserves more chances.

Faheem and Yasir don't deserve to play anymore.

M Hafeez could balance this side greatly.


My XI:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Babar Azam
3) Haris Sohail
4) Sarfraz Ahmed
5) Mohammad Hafeez
6) Asif Ali
7) Imad Wasim
8) Mohammad Amir
9) Hasan Ali
10) Shaheen Afridi
11) Junaid Khan
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Drop Hasan Ali for Hasnain and we have a deal

I think Asif Ali was a one trick pony and will fail. This is also proven by his poor domestic average. I hope I am wrong though.
 
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Arsalan Pro said:
Brilliant fightback from Pakistan, but unfortunately we ended on the losing side. Some key players were missing yet we took the game to the last over was a big positive.

Few changes can improve this side even more.

Imam Ul Haq dosen't fit into the modern game, and this also allows Babar to open.

Asif Ali deserves more chances.

Faheem and Yasir don't deserve to play anymore.

M Hafeez could balance this side greatly.


My XI:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Babar Azam
3) Haris Sohail
4) Sarfraz Ahmed
5) Mohammad Hafeez
6) Asif Ali
7) Imad Wasim
8) Mohammad Amir
9) Hasan Ali
10) Shaheen Afridi
11) Junaid Khan
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Perfect team in limited existing resources
 
Arsalan Pro said:
Brilliant fightback from Pakistan, but unfortunately we ended on the losing side. Some key players were missing yet we took the game to the last over was a big positive.

Few changes can improve this side even more.

Imam Ul Haq dosen't fit into the modern game, and this also allows Babar to open.

Asif Ali deserves more chances.

Faheem and Yasir don't deserve to play anymore.

M Hafeez could balance this side greatly.


My XI:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Babar Azam
3) Haris Sohail
4) Sarfraz Ahmed
5) Mohammad Hafeez
6) Asif Ali
7) Imad Wasim
8) Mohammad Amir
9) Hasan Ali
10) Shaheen Afridi
11) Junaid Khan
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Optimal team until shadab returns as we get to test all the Pacers,though as faheem is back up all-rounder he should play maybe one more
 
gazza619 said:
Drop Hasan Ali for Hasnain and we have a deal

I think Asif Ali was a one trick pony and will fail. This is also proven by his poor domestic average. I hope I am wrong though.
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Asif took his time and played well the other day I must admit. He has always been a fantastic six hitter but he often throws his wicket away. As long as he shows maturity, he can be an integral player in World Cup.
 
gazza619 said:
Drop Hasan Ali for Hasnain and we have a deal

I think Asif Ali was a one trick pony and will fail. This is also proven by his poor domestic average. I hope I am wrong though.
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Your choice, but for me we should give one more game to Hasan and Shaheen and then rotate them in the last 2 matches, not chopping and changing your main bowlers for World Cup, after one bad outing.

Hasnain played one extra match(T20I) compared to Amir and Junaid and thus, should be the one out of these 3 to miss this match.

All 3 of Amir, Junaid and Hasnain should play the last 2 matches.

For Pakistan's cause we need Asif to fire big time, otherwise we will feel difficulty in chasing big targets or posting ones. Combo of Mohammad Hafeez, Asif Ali and Imad Wasim needs to fire as a unit to give us some confidence of last order hitting.
 
Amir is out due to illness.

Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz *
Hafeez
Asif
Imad
Hassan
SSA
Hasanain
Junaid
 
Abid, Hafeez, Malik and Junaid are in the WC squad and should start getting games, especially with the threat of rain looming in this series

Maybe Abid, Husnain, Junaid, Hafeez come in for the third match, with Imam, Yasir, Faheem and maybe Hassan rested
 
mak36 said:
Amir is out due to illness.

Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz *
Hafeez
Asif
Imad
Hassan
SSA
Hasanain
Junaid
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Do they have the guts to go with 3 pure tailenders? With Amir they could have afforded 4 genuine quicks, I don't feel they would go this attacking now.

This means Faheem who in reality is as bad as others with regards to batting would play this game or they might go with 1 extra batsman.

I think they will play this lineup:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Babar Azam
3) Haris Sohail
4) Sarfraz Ahmed(C)(Wk)
5) Mohammad Hafeez
6) Shoaib Malik
7) Asif Ali
8) Imad Wasim
9) Hasan Ali
10) Shaheen Afridi
11) Junaid Khan
 
Sarfraz Ahmed needs to open. He can be a valuable player during powerplay he has done it before in the last world cup. He and Fakhar should open it will create more options for the team. Asif Ali can easily play on no. 5. England pitches are no more the same we used to see in 90s and 80s. They are making dead wickets for high scoring matches. Pakistan has no other choice but to fit in players with higher strike rate.

Shoaib Malik, Imam and Haris are not needed in this team. With Amir not well, expecting more bashing for Pakistani bowlers and another 320+ score.
 
I would love to see Abid Ali play, but unfortunately now it is even less likely with Hafeez and Malik back, and they will continue to try Asif and Imam is going nowhere till the end of world cup. If I was captain I would play Abid in place of Asif, who still has not convinced me - he is just a glorified slogger.
 
Khwaja78 said:
Sarfraz Ahmed needs to open. He can be a valuable player during powerplay he has done it before in the last world cup. He and Fakhar should open it will create more options for the team. Asif Ali can easily play on no. 5. England pitches are no more the same we used to see in 90s and 80s. They are making dead wickets for high scoring matches. Pakistan has no other choice but to fit in players with higher strike rate.

Shoaib Malik, Imam and Haris are not needed in this team. With Amir not well, expecting more bashing for Pakistani bowlers and another 320+ score.
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Lets not talk about Sarfaraz opening as with Imam in the squad it will never happen. We have a gun opener in Abid Ali but he will not get a chance, despite scoring an excellent century on debut.
 
Arsalan Pro said:
Do they have the guts to go with 3 pure tailenders? With Amir they could have afforded 4 genuine quicks, I don't feel they would go this attacking now.

This means Faheem who in reality is as bad as others with regards to batting would play this game or they might go with 1 extra batsman.

I think they will play this lineup:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Babar Azam
3) Haris Sohail
4) Sarfraz Ahmed(C)(Wk)
5) Mohammad Hafeez
6) Shoaib Malik
7) Asif Ali
8) Imad Wasim
9) Hasan Ali
10) Shaheen Afridi
11) Junaid Khan
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Don't mind the long tail for this series- should use this series to test combinations. Shows the importance of Shadab to this line up; the balance of the side looks much better when he is playing.

Re your line up, fifth bowling option to be made by Hafeez, Haris (and Malik)?
 
mak36 said:
Don't mind the long tail for this series- should use this series to test combinations. Shows the importance of Shadab to this line up; the balance of the side looks much better when he is playing.

Re your line up, fifth bowling option to be made by Hafeez, Haris (and Malik)?
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Yup, in this lineup they would have to use M Hafeez, Malik and Haris for 10 overs, which I know isn't ideal given our bowling performance last match.

I too wouldn't mind them go with your team combination, let's see if team management thinks that way.
 
PakPremi said:
Lets not talk about Sarfaraz opening as with Imam in the squad it will never happen. We have a gun opener in Abid Ali but he will not get a chance, despite scoring an excellent century on debut.
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If Sarfraz takes the opening slot Imam will be automatically benched and will create 2 options in middle order.
Abid Ali can replace Haris Sohail. Only Hafeez should be included, he is good against spinners. Shoaib Malik presence will damage the team. Pak won't be able to cross 280 let alone crossing 300 for a high run chase.
 
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Asif shouldn’t play he was lucky he was dropped when on 24 and went on to make 50. Malik is a better slogger than him IMO
 
Arsalan Pro said:
Brilliant fightback from Pakistan, but unfortunately we ended on the losing side. Some key players were missing yet we took the game to the last over was a big positive.

Few changes can improve this side even more.

Imam Ul Haq dosen't fit into the modern game, and this also allows Babar to open.

Asif Ali deserves more chances.

Faheem and Yasir don't deserve to play anymore.

M Hafeez could balance this side greatly.


My XI:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Babar Azam
3) Haris Sohail
4) Sarfraz Ahmed
5) Mohammad Hafeez
6) Asif Ali
7) Imad Wasim
8) Mohammad Amir
9) Hasan Ali
10) Shaheen Afridi
11) Junaid Khan
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Imam is a better batsman than Sohail, who I think should be replaced with Hafeez (especially if he gets to ball).

What is the problem with a batsman averaging almost 55 with a SR of 80?

Hafeez in for Sohail
Junaid in for Shah
Hasnain in for Faheem

Hasan gets a chance to bat and can not be any worse than any other lower order slogger.
 
barah_admi said:
Imam is a better batsman than Sohail, who I think should be replaced with Hafeez (especially if he gets to ball).

What is the problem with a batsman averaging almost 55 with a SR of 80?

Hafeez in for Sohail
Junaid in for Shah
Hasnain in for Faheem

Hasan gets a chance to bat and can not be any worse than any other lower order slogger.
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Imam might be a better batsman than Haris Sohail in his and his uncle's dreams.

Problem is we don't analyze stats properly, no one cares about his runs against minnows that aren't playing the WC. He averages 35 with SR in 70s and that aren't good by any standards for this era of cricket.

While Haris Sohail averages around 45 career wise at 85 SR against Top teams, and in last 2 years it has increased close to 70 with 85-90 SR.

Last time I checked before this series, against Top oppositions. Haris Sohail has the 3rd highest average after the 2015 WC for all batsmen, only behind Virat Kohli and Ross Taylor.

No one in right mind would drop Haris Sohail.
 
With no Amir, i would give Hasnain a go now. We need that extra pace to trouble the England batsman.
 
Arsalan Pro said:
Imam might be a better batsman than Haris Sohail in his and his uncle's dreams.

Problem is we don't analyze stats properly, no one cares about his runs against minnows that aren't playing the WC. He averages 35 with SR in 70s and that aren't good by any standards for this era of cricket.

While Haris Sohail averages around 45 career wise at 85 SR against Top teams, and in last 2 years it has increased close to 70 with 85-90 SR.

Last time I checked before this series, against Top oppositions. Haris Sohail has the 3rd highest average after the 2015 WC for all batsmen, only behind Virat Kohli and Ross Taylor.

No one in right mind would drop Haris Sohail.
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Totally agree. We shouldn't even think about dropping Haris regardless of who comes into the playing 11. In the WC we must always go with Fakhar, Babar and Haris.
 
Even if Inzi wants to have his nephew open in the World Cup, Abid needs to have an opportunity to showcase his talent. it almost looks like Imam ul Haq is being protected as he lacks the ability to score at even a run a ball and can't even rotate strike against good bowling and short pitched deliveries. Abid on the other hand has every shot in the book. There is also no place for Shoaib. I do not have anything against either of them but we have to be clinical if we want to entertain hopes of winning the cup. This Bhai chara and favours won't take us very far.
 
Need to bring in Wahab Riaz in place of Amir if hes out. Drop Imam and open with Abid Ali. Ideally Shadab will return for the world cup and the below looks strong with Malik, Hafeez Fakhar sharing 5th bowling.

Abid Ali
Fakhar Zaman
Babar Azam
Sarfraz Ahmed WK
Hafeez
Malik
Asif Ali
Shadab Khan
Hassan Ali
Wahab Riaz
Shaheen Afridi
 
Abid
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz
Hafeez
Asif
Imad
Hasan
Shaheen
Junaid

Hafeez and Haris to bowl 10 overs. Fakhar may also be used for 2-3 overs.
 
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Bristol is a small ground so more hard work awaits for bowlers.
 
Seems like Archer and Rashid will be rested having not trained, as well as Buttler.
 
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Sarfaraz
Malik
Hafeez
Asif
Imad
Hasan
Hasnain/Junaid
Shaheen

Hafeez, Haris and Malik can easily bowl 10 overs between them and considering how Eng generally plays spin they can be pretty decent overs economy wise as well. This lineup also gives decent batting depth with Hafeez, Asif and Imad doing the lower order hitting.

If we had an attacking middle order batsman I would have surely opted for him over Malik but at the moment he is the only one in the squad.
 
As per Saj, Mohammad Hafeez too isn't available for tomorrow's game.

Playing XI now would be:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Imam Ul Haq
3) Babar Azam
4) Haris Sohail
5) Sarfraz Ahmed(C)(Wk)
6) Shoaib Malik
7) Asif Ali
8) Imad Wasim
9) Hasan Ali
10) Shaheen Afridi
11) Junaid Khan
 
Arsalan Pro said:
As per Saj, Mohammad Hafeez too isn't available for tomorrow's game.

Playing XI now would be:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Imam Ul Haq
3) Babar Azam
4) Haris Sohail
5) Sarfraz Ahmed(C)(Wk)
6) Shoaib Malik
7) Asif Ali
8) Imad Wasim
9) Hasan Ali
10) Shaheen Afridi
11) Junaid Khan
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That's one bowler short.
Malik and Haris are not good enough to bowl 10 overs between them.
 
Green Patriot said:
That's one bowler short.
Malik and Haris are not good enough to bowl 10 overs between them.
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They both can still bowl better lines lengths than Yasir and have more variation in pace than him in LOIs. Even if they bowl 10 overs for 60 they would still have done miles better job than Yasir however I am hopeful both will do a decent job containing in the middle overs. Though would need captain to use them effectively at right times.
 
Arsalan Pro said:
As per Saj, Mohammad Hafeez too isn't available for tomorrow's game.

Playing XI now would be:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Imam Ul Haq
3) Babar Azam
4) Haris Sohail
5) Sarfraz Ahmed(C)(Wk)
6) Shoaib Malik
7) Asif Ali
8) Imad Wasim
9) Hasan Ali
10) Shaheen Afridi
11) Junaid Khan
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Strange , people still want to see selfish nephew ahead of a proper opener like Abid.. When I see such posts I wonder maybe fans deserve selfish players like Imam,Babar,Amir , stupid coach like Mickey and corrupt , dishonest selector like Inzi...
 
Arsalan Pro said:
As per Saj, Mohammad Hafeez too isn't available for tomorrow's game.

Playing XI now would be:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Imam Ul Haq
3) Babar Azam
4) Haris Sohail
5) Sarfraz Ahmed(C)(Wk)
6) Shoaib Malik
7) Asif Ali
8) Imad Wasim
9) Hasan Ali
10) Shaheen Afridi
11) Junaid Khan
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How awesome it would have been if Asif Ali bowled 3 or 4 overs of spin.
 
Farhan93 said:
Strange , people still want to see selfish nephew ahead of a proper opener like Abid.. When I see such posts I wonder maybe fans deserve selfish players like Imam,Babar,Amir , stupid coach like Mickey and corrupt , dishonest selector like Inzi...
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Understand what is written before replying, it was the expected team, not the one I wanted. I have always been a critic of Imam, and want Abid in the side.

I guess, no point replying to someone who thinks Babar and Amir are selfish.
 
I don't think we'll learn from our bowling deficiencies by the 3rd ODI and I do expect us to be either chasing 300+ in all the remaining games. or setting a target and England chasing it with ease.

I have no expectation from our bowlers. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if our batsmen outperform our bowlers in this series and the forthcoming WC :))
 
Chokli said:
How awesome it would have been if Asif Ali bowled 3 or 4 overs of spin.
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Yup, his value would have been enhanced and could have earned him a proper spot.

If I am not wrong I think I saw Asif bowl in the Pakistan Cup?
 
Arsalan Pro said:
Yup, his value would have been enhanced and could have earned him a proper spot.

If I am not wrong I think I saw Asif bowl in the Pakistan Cup?
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He did in fact bowl in one match.

Our think tank is too stupid to utilize him like that anyway.
 
Arsalan Pro said:
Understand what is written before replying, it was the expected team, not the one I wanted. I have always been a critic of Imam, and want Abid in the side.

I guess, no point replying to someone who thinks Babar and Amir are selfish.
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Career SR of 83 in modern day cricket is world class and depicts selflessness? yeah right
 
Farhan93 said:
Career SR of 83 in modern day cricket is world class and depicts selflessness? yeah right
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It's 85, not 83. His role is to ensure that he plays the entire innings at a healthy SR and one this sort of batsman is mandatory to avoid collapses. Team management have given him the role to bat like this.

BTW, he is the same player who is the Number 1 T20I batsman in the world and has the ability to dominate, he just waits for the end overs to do so.
 
Arsalan Pro said:
It's 85, not 83. His role is to ensure that he plays the entire innings at a healthy SR and one this sort of batsman is mandatory to avoid collapses. Team management have given him the role to bat like this.

BTW, he is the same player who is the Number 1 T20I batsman in the world and has the ability to dominate, he just waits for the end overs to do so.
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It's mostly around 83-84 . It was 83 before last match .
Anyways, yes you want batsmen to provide stability in the middle but even the definition of stability has changed in modern day cricket FYI, anchoring the innings doesn't mean you have to suck all the momentum and consume deliveries just to hold an end and play with a SR of 83-84. Kohli and Root also provide stability but they don't play with SR of 80-85...Root's SR in last 3 years has been 90+ yet there were noises in Eng camp last year during WI tour that he is too slow for the modern standards and should be dropped. Kohli's SR is 92.
We provide free rides to our blue eyed boys that's why we have been in such a mess in ODIs for many years now. we need to put pressure on our favorites so that they can improve instead of getting complacent and think they are no 1 with SR of 83 with 0 match winning contribution in big match.

You really believe in ICC rankings? Faheem is in the top rankings too in bowling in t20s does that mean he becomes best pacer in the world?And also T20 ranking is even more flawed as it doesn't give consideration to the SR but to the runs scored. T20 is more about SR we all know that.. Test rankings are more valid because it give considerations to avg and babar is nowhere in those rankings.

Point is in modern day ODIs we need middle order batsmen with SR of 88-89 or more not less than that..
 
Arsalan Pro said:
Yup, it is one bowler short but this looks like the expected team. Let's see who they drop for Mohammad Hasnain, if they include him.
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I dont think the team management would trust Malik and Haris to bowl 10.It would be frankly surprising if they do.But then they will have to drop a batsmen to incorporate a bowler and Malik wont be dropped and Asif after the previous match can't be either. Haris might be dropped for all we know.Not an easy decision to make by all means.

Titan24 said:
They both can still bowl better lines lengths than Yasir and have more variation in pace than him in LOIs. Even if they bowl 10 overs for 60 they would still have done miles better job than Yasir however I am hopeful both will do a decent job containing in the middle overs. Though would need captain to use them effectively at right times.
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Even Sarfaraz himself would be better than Yasir honestly :facepalm:
But i dont think Malik will be able to contain though Haris might.Malik would probably be feasted upon by the beastly English lineup.
 
I dont see pakistan messing with a batting line up. Changes will be in the bowling. Yasir has probably played his last game on tour.
 
When it comes to Cricket he first question is always the weather. Hope it's a good and sunny day.
 
Don't see Hafeez featuring yet - Malik could come in for Faheem. Not so sure if they will do that but won't be surprised if they do.
 
My playing 11 for 3rd Odi:
1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Babar Azam
3) Haris Sohail
4) Sarfraz Ahmed
5) Mohammad Hafeez
6) Asif Ali
7) Shoaib Malik-<Finisher>
8) Imad Wasim
9) Hasan Ali
10) Shaheen Afridi
11) Junaid Khan
 
I don’t see Imam being dropped. With Hafeez unavailable, the chances are less.
 
Ertugrul_Bey said:
My playing 11 for 3rd Odi:
1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Babar Azam
3) Haris Sohail
4) Sarfraz Ahmed
5) Mohammad Hafeez
6) Asif Ali
7) Shoaib Malik-<Finisher>
8) Imad Wasim
9) Hasan Ali
10) Shaheen Afridi
11) Junaid Khan
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Baffles me how many Pak fans want to displace their best batsman to accommodate a TTF in Hafeez
 
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